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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #358762 11/30/21 06:57 PM
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Reply to the claim… “No way anyone turns down Penn State or SB for Lehigh. That’s actually funny! Also Florida for Davidson?? You definitely do not know what actually happened. Stop making up nonsense.“

So through this whole discussion, and all the claims and opinions stated, this is really the only statement I have a problem with. Everyone has opinions and makers their decisions based on them. The above so easily could have happened, as plainly seen from all the discussion that followed. Just because you or “your daughter” would never choose this path, certainly does not mean nobody else’s would. Wether any of these are good or bad decisions or choices, everyone makes their own.

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Anonymous #358802 12/01/21 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Reply to the claim… “No way anyone turns down Penn State or SB for Lehigh. That’s actually funny! Also Florida for Davidson?? You definitely do not know what actually happened. Stop making up nonsense.“

So through this whole discussion, and all the claims and opinions stated, this is really the only statement I have a problem with. Everyone has opinions and makers their decisions based on them. The above so easily could have happened, as plainly seen from all the discussion that followed. Just because you or “your daughter” would never choose this path, certainly does not mean nobody else’s would. Wether any of these are good or bad decisions or choices, everyone makes their own.

Agree, to each her own. However, the original post was not about choice, it was intend to convey the message that Florida, Syracuse, Penn State, Stony Brook are inferior to Lehigh and Davidson academically. The post was also intended to push the narrative that “Many” girls who have offers from the traditional power programs are not accepting those offers because they are prioritizing academics over Lacrosse. There was definitely an agenda to the original post.

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PSU and UF coaches are very much on the hot seat. We we’re warned by our recruiting director to be careful. Rarely is it good to be the player recruited by the former coach. With these particular schools for a 23 could see it girls choosing a different rout.

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Anonymous #358833 12/01/21 12:35 PM
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PSU and UF coaches are very much on the hot seat. We we’re warned by our recruiting director to be careful. Rarely is it good to be the player recruited by the former coach. With these particular schools for a 23 could see it girls choosing a different rout.

Two great schools, if a student athlete is presented with the opportunity to go to either school and everything else about the schooling the lacrosse program is a good fit I would not advise my daughter to shy away because there could possibly be a coaching change. There are coaching changes every year. IMHO there are many other factors to consider, who will be coaching the team in the future is not something an athlete can control.

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Anonymous #358856 12/01/21 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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PSU and UF coaches are very much on the hot seat. We we’re warned by our recruiting director to be careful. Rarely is it good to be the player recruited by the former coach. With these particular schools for a 23 could see it girls choosing a different rout.

Two great schools, if a student athlete is presented with the opportunity to go to either school and everything else about the schooling the lacrosse program is a good fit I would not advise my daughter to shy away because there could possibly be a coaching change. There are coaching changes every year. IMHO there are many other factors to consider, who will be coaching the team in the future is not something an athlete can control.


Maybe can’t control it %100 but can certainly not go somewhere when you know the situation exists.

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Anonymous #358867 12/01/21 02:37 PM
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PSU and UF coaches are very much on the hot seat. We we’re warned by our recruiting director to be careful. Rarely is it good to be the player recruited by the former coach. With these particular schools for a 23 could see it girls choosing a different rout.

Cmon....Such nonsense. Hopkins, Princeton, possibly Navy and probably a number of other coaches will be retiring/leaving for other positions. Syracuse changed coaches this year. If your "recruiting director" told you that... I would be looking for another "recruiting director" as your current one appears incompetent.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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PSU and UF coaches are very much on the hot seat. We we’re warned by our recruiting director to be careful. Rarely is it good to be the player recruited by the former coach. With these particular schools for a 23 could see it girls choosing a different rout.

Cmon....Such nonsense. Hopkins, Princeton, possibly Navy and probably a number of other coaches will be retiring/leaving for other positions. Syracuse changed coaches this year. If your "recruiting director" told you that... I would be looking for another "recruiting director" as your current one appears incompetent.
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PSU and UF coaches are very much on the hot seat. We we’re warned by our recruiting director to be careful. Rarely is it good to be the player recruited by the former coach. With these particular schools for a 23 could see it girls choosing a different rout.

Cmon....Such nonsense. Hopkins, Princeton, possibly Navy and probably a number of other coaches will be retiring/leaving for other positions. Syracuse changed coaches this year. If your "recruiting director" told you that... I would be looking for another "recruiting director" as your current one appears incompetent.

There are coaching changes all the time. To not consider a school because there could possibly be a coaching change is a bit narrow minded.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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Coaches don't have to renew schollys so having a new coach that doesnt like your D is an issue. It is not a great look but teams like SBU and Fla Tech have done this in past.

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Anonymous #358894 12/01/21 04:54 PM
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Coaches don't have to renew schollys so having a new coach that doesnt like your D is an issue. It is not a great look but teams like SBU and Fla Tech have done this in past.

Then your "D" is is a bench player.

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Anonymous #358897 12/01/21 05:13 PM
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Coaches don't have to renew schollys so having a new coach that doesnt like your D is an issue. It is not a great look but teams like SBU and Fla Tech have done this in past.

Then your "D" is is a bench player.

Why post such a worthless statement? Just go back to the miserable existence you call a life.

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Anonymous #358902 12/01/21 06:12 PM
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Coaches don't have to renew schollys so having a new coach that doesnt like your D is an issue. It is not a great look but teams like SBU and Fla Tech have done this in past.

Here is a nice tip for you all… you can negotiate all four years and have it in your commitment contract. Not all coaches will do it, and not all players can demand it. Most coaches like to offer a first year offer that is the minimum over the four years with room to increase over the years. Some will visit and increase on their own, some will need to be nudged or negotiated and some “offer” it knowing they will never increase. If you don’t have a minimum in your commitment contract, coaches can decrease your scholarship each year, as rumored from the team mentioned in the above post. These contracts can be completely customized to meet the needs of both the player and/or the coach. Treat it like you would a business contract or a divorce agreement, look it over carefully, make as many corrections as needed and get all the terms where both parties need them to be, then sign it. Coaches prepare this document based and a couple points made during the offer process, they are going to prepare the document and many of the undiscussed points in their favor, don’t just sign off on it.

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Anonymous #358903 12/01/21 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Coaches don't have to renew schollys so having a new coach that doesnt like your D is an issue. It is not a great look but teams like SBU and Fla Tech have done this in past.

Here is a nice tip for you all… you can negotiate all four years and have it in your commitment contract. Not all coaches will do it, and not all players can demand it. Most coaches like to offer a first year offer that is the minimum over the four years with room to increase over the years. Some will visit and increase on their own, some will need to be nudged or negotiated and some “offer” it knowing they will never increase. If you don’t have a minimum in your commitment contract, coaches can decrease your scholarship each year, as rumored from the team mentioned in the above post. These contracts can be completely customized to meet the needs of both the player and/or the coach. Treat it like you would a business contract or a divorce agreement, look it over carefully, make as many corrections as needed and get all the terms where both parties need them to be, then sign it. Coaches prepare this document based and a couple points made during the offer process, they are going to prepare the document and many of the undiscussed points in their favor, don’t just sign off on it.


I do not believe that there is such a thing as a commitment contract.

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Anonymous #358908 12/01/21 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Coaches don't have to renew schollys so having a new coach that doesnt like your D is an issue. It is not a great look but teams like SBU and Fla Tech have done this in past.

Here is a nice tip for you all… you can negotiate all four years and have it in your commitment contract. Not all coaches will do it, and not all players can demand it. Most coaches like to offer a first year offer that is the minimum over the four years with room to increase over the years. Some will visit and increase on their own, some will need to be nudged or negotiated and some “offer” it knowing they will never increase. If you don’t have a minimum in your commitment contract, coaches can decrease your scholarship each year, as rumored from the team mentioned in the above post. These contracts can be completely customized to meet the needs of both the player and/or the coach. Treat it like you would a business contract or a divorce agreement, look it over carefully, make as many corrections as needed and get all the terms where both parties need them to be, then sign it. Coaches prepare this document based and a couple points made during the offer process, they are going to prepare the document and many of the undiscussed points in their favor, don’t just sign off on it.


I do not believe that there is such a thing as a commitment contract.

Yeah, no contract needed, just enroll in the school and hope there is magically scholarship money taken off your account, LOL.

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Anonymous #358910 12/01/21 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Coaches don't have to renew schollys so having a new coach that doesnt like your D is an issue. It is not a great look but teams like SBU and Fla Tech have done this in past.

Here is a nice tip for you all… you can negotiate all four years and have it in your commitment contract. Not all coaches will do it, and not all players can demand it. Most coaches like to offer a first year offer that is the minimum over the four years with room to increase over the years. Some will visit and increase on their own, some will need to be nudged or negotiated and some “offer” it knowing they will never increase. If you don’t have a minimum in your commitment contract, coaches can decrease your scholarship each year, as rumored from the team mentioned in the above post. These contracts can be completely customized to meet the needs of both the player and/or the coach. Treat it like you would a business contract or a divorce agreement, look it over carefully, make as many corrections as needed and get all the terms where both parties need them to be, then sign it. Coaches prepare this document based and a couple points made during the offer process, they are going to prepare the document and many of the undiscussed points in their favor, don’t just sign off on it.


I do not believe that there is such a thing as a commitment contract.
The commitment contract is what is signed on signing day!

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Anonymous #358911 12/01/21 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Coaches don't have to renew schollys so having a new coach that doesnt like your D is an issue. It is not a great look but teams like SBU and Fla Tech have done this in past.

Here is a nice tip for you all… you can negotiate all four years and have it in your commitment contract. Not all coaches will do it, and not all players can demand it. Most coaches like to offer a first year offer that is the minimum over the four years with room to increase over the years. Some will visit and increase on their own, some will need to be nudged or negotiated and some “offer” it knowing they will never increase. If you don’t have a minimum in your commitment contract, coaches can decrease your scholarship each year, as rumored from the team mentioned in the above post. These contracts can be completely customized to meet the needs of both the player and/or the coach. Treat it like you would a business contract or a divorce agreement, look it over carefully, make as many corrections as needed and get all the terms where both parties need them to be, then sign it. Coaches prepare this document based and a couple points made during the offer process, they are going to prepare the document and many of the undiscussed points in their favor, don’t just sign off on it.


I do not believe that there is such a thing as a commitment contract.

Then you don’t know much about college athletics! My kids were guaranteed in writing their minimum scholarship for four years. They even honored that commitment for kids that were kicked off the team. This is Big 10

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