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Re: holdbacks
Anonymous #357355 11/19/21 09:59 AM
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If it makes you feel better for your 30k a year, tell yourself YGWYPF. As far as being a better critical thinker bc you go to private school?! Hard to be a good critical thinker in a homogenous pool of similar minded people.
And for the record, the AP curriculum is the same at every school. It’s to prepare for the AP exam, which is the same regardless of public or private school. Get your facts straight. And finally, before you go bashing Eastern Tech or Carver, look at where their graduates go to college. Sorry if it hurts when you go to write that tuition check.

The kids at private school are better, more critical thinkers because the teachers actually require it of their students. My kid transitioned from public MS to private HS and there's no comparison on the difficulty and expectations. The standard is a thousand times higher at Loyola than it was at Dumbarton.

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Anonymous #357361 11/19/21 10:28 AM
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Critical Thinking is based on using real data to form opinions. Average SAT and ACT Scores from Niche.com

Eastern Technical High School

1220
28

George Carver

1210
29

Gilman

1370
30

McDonogh

1320
31

St. Pauls

1270
29

Boy's Latin

1240
27

Loyola Blakefield

1290
29

Calvert Hall

1240
27

Paying $120k for around 100 points higher on SAT is totally worth it. Great point.
On another note, don’t forget to look at how many AP courses are offered at private vs public.
Regarding the post above about an active shooter, your naïveté is disturbing. Mass shootings can happen anywhere. All the money in the world can’t protect you from someone’s ill intent.

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Anonymous #357363 11/19/21 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Critical Thinking is based on using real data to form opinions. Average SAT and ACT Scores from Niche.com

Eastern Technical High School

1220
28

George Carver

1210
29

Gilman

1370
30

McDonogh

1320
31

St. Pauls

1270
29

Boy's Latin

1240
27

Loyola Blakefield

1290
29

Calvert Hall

1240
27

A lot of people very (overly) invested in this debate. In Maryland, the truth is that you spend $700K+ on a home in the best public school districts, or you spend the money on tuition, to get the benefits of those scores for the "average kid." Or you spend less, and you get this:

Dundalk HS: 990 SAT / 20 ACT

Annapolis HS: 1160 / 26

Calvert HS: 1150 / 26

Baltimore Poly: 1170 / 26

Balt City Overall: 920 / 18 (and doesn't matter because UMD system doesn't accept their diplomas as evidence of college readiness)

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Anonymous #357366 11/19/21 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Critical Thinking is based on using real data to form opinions. Average SAT and ACT Scores from Niche.com

Eastern Technical High School

1220
28

George Carver

1210
29

Gilman

1370
30

McDonogh

1320
31

St. Pauls

1270
29

Boy's Latin

1240
27

Loyola Blakefield

1290
29

Calvert Hall

1240
27

A lot of people very (overly) invested in this debate. In Maryland, the truth is that you spend $700K+ on a home in the best public school districts, or you spend the money on tuition, to get the benefits of those scores for the "average kid." Or you spend less, and you get this:

Dundalk HS: 990 SAT / 20 ACT

Annapolis HS: 1160 / 26

Calvert HS: 1150 / 26

Baltimore Poly: 1170 / 26

Balt City Overall: 920 / 18 (and doesn't matter because UMD system doesn't accept their diplomas as evidence of college readiness)

Isn’t there a lacrosse message board? If so how many have legit lax teams? Maybe Severna Park? Maybe.

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TM@BOTC #357368 11/19/21 11:13 AM
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Mt Hebron 1290 SAT but public schools creams only those who take the test. I assume almost 100%of privates take the test

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Critical Thinking is based on using real data to form opinions. Average SAT and ACT Scores from Niche.com

Eastern Technical High School

1220
28

George Carver

1210
29

Gilman

1370
30

McDonogh

1320
31

St. Pauls

1270
29

Boy's Latin

1240
27

Loyola Blakefield

1290
29

Calvert Hall

1240
27

A lot of people very (overly) invested in this debate. In Maryland, the truth is that you spend $700K+ on a home in the best public school districts, or you spend the money on tuition, to get the benefits of those scores for the "average kid." Or you spend less, and you get this:

Dundalk HS: 990 SAT / 20 ACT

Annapolis HS: 1160 / 26

Calvert HS: 1150 / 26

Baltimore Poly: 1170 / 26

Balt City Overall: 920 / 18 (and doesn't matter because UMD system doesn't accept their diplomas as evidence of college readiness)

Isn’t there a lacrosse message board? If so how many have legit lax teams? Maybe Severna Park? Maybe.

Severna Park is for the kids who couldnt get into Spalding, Severn or St Marys

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Anonymous #357382 11/19/21 12:09 PM
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Mt Hebron 1290 SAT but public schools creams only those who take the test. I assume almost 100%of privates take the test

Correct.
The public schools that are high have low overall test participation rates.
Public schools do NOT require every kid to take the test. So kids who are not good academically do not have to take the SATs.
Private schools require ALL of their students to take the college admission tests.
So Calvert Hall's "low 1240 average includes EVERYONE on campus, even the "dense jocks."

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Anonymous #357385 11/19/21 12:40 PM
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Mt Hebron 1290 SAT but public schools creams only those who take the test. I assume almost 100%of privates take the test

Correct.
The public schools that are high have low overall test participation rates.
Public schools do NOT require every kid to take the test. So kids who are not good academically do not have to take the SATs.
Private schools require ALL of their students to take the college admission tests.
So Calvert Hall's "low 1240 average includes EVERYONE on campus, even the "dense jocks."

I think the school is called MT Heroin.....Get it right buddy

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Anonymous #357410 11/19/21 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mt Hebron 1290 SAT but public schools creams only those who take the test. I assume almost 100%of privates take the test

Correct.
The public schools that are high have low overall test participation rates.
Public schools do NOT require every kid to take the test. So kids who are not good academically do not have to take the SATs.
Private schools require ALL of their students to take the college admission tests.
So Calvert Hall's "low 1240 average includes EVERYONE on campus, even the "dense jocks."

I think the school is called MT Heroin.....Get it right buddy

Oh yea!! Definitly Mt. Heroin. There are more than a few crispy critters there....

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Anonymous #357423 11/19/21 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Critical Thinking is based on using real data to form opinions. Average SAT and ACT Scores from Niche.com

Eastern Technical High School

1220
28

George Carver

1210
29

Gilman

1370
30

McDonogh

1320
31

St. Pauls

1270
29

Boy's Latin

1240
27

Loyola Blakefield

1290
29

Calvert Hall

1240
27

Paying $120k for around 100 points higher on SAT is totally worth it. Great point.
On another note, don’t forget to look at how many AP courses are offered at private vs public.
Regarding the post above about an active shooter, your naïveté is disturbing. Mass shootings can happen anywhere. All the money in the world can’t protect you from someone’s ill intent.

I can tell you're the same guy who was theorizing about McDonough & Gilman grads "job applications" like they are lining up at Starbucks or Jiffy Lube. I'm sure if they did apply for those jobs, yeah, people would think it was weird, and they might not get hired to sweep floors or warm up muffins for $9/hour. Good point.

If someone sends their kids to private for the 100 points (which, as others have mentioned, is really about 300 points), they are stunads. This is true. But this is reason #23 for most parents. Not #1.

And I agree, mass shootings can happen anywhere. So why don't they happen at private schools? Ever? If 15% of kids go to private schools, why are 0% of school shootings there?

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Anonymous #357426 11/19/21 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Critical Thinking is based on using real data to form opinions. Average SAT and ACT Scores from Niche.com

Eastern Technical High School

1220
28

George Carver

1210
29

Gilman

1370
30

McDonogh

1320
31

St. Pauls

1270
29

Boy's Latin

1240
27

Loyola Blakefield

1290
29

Calvert Hall

1240
27

Looking at that.. I would say that Gilman and McD give an above average education compared to those two publics, but the rest, while somewhat better aren't that much better for 16 to 35 thousand dollars a year compared to next to nothing.

But private isnt only about who has the better SAT. There is bragging rights when you meet someone.. The First three questions from any parent I meet from a private school, Where do you live, What do you do and what school does your child go to.. That private school makes up for inadequate answers to first two.

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Since this is the holdback thread just send your kid to private where it’s encouraged.

Public kids call it “failing” and it’s frowned upon.

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Anonymous #357439 11/19/21 09:06 PM
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Since this is the holdback thread just send your kid to private where it’s encouraged.

Public kids call it “failing” and it’s frowned upon.

I'm a private school dad and I approve this message.

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Anonymous #357440 11/19/21 09:25 PM
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Since this is the holdback thread just send your kid to private where it’s encouraged.

Public kids call it “failing” and it’s frowned upon.

^ This

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Anonymous #357467 11/20/21 09:16 AM
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Since this is the holdback thread just send your kid to private where it’s encouraged.

Public kids call it “failing” and it’s frowned upon.

That sums up the whole debate about holdbacks in a nutshell as they say. And so True.

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