Long Island Lacrosse Forum | BackOfTheCAGE Forums NORTHEAST LACROSSE BOTC MAIN FORUM Boys' U15 National Championship Tournament - July 26th-28th, 2013

The 2013 US Lacrosse Boys' U15 National Championship will take place from Friday, July 26th through Sunday, July 28th with mandatory coaches meetings on Thursday, July 24th.

Thursday, July 25
7 p.m. – 8 p.m. Mandatory Coaches Meeting
8 p.m. – 9 p.m. Registration (Coaches Only)

Friday, July 26
8 a.m. – 8 p.m. Boys’ Pool Play

Saturday, July 27
8 a.m. – 8 p.m. Boys’ Bracket Play

Sunday, July 28
8 a.m. – 2 p.m. Semifinals, Championship and Consolation Games
2 p.m. – 3 p.m. Awards Ceremony for US Lacrosse National Champion, Silver and Bronze Medalists

The following teams and regions have received automatic or at-large bids for the 2013 tournament. Up to as many as 32 boys teams will potentially receive and accept an invitation into the 2013 field.

3d Select (Colo.): at-large
C2C Black (Texas): at-large
Carolina (N.C.): at-large
Colorado: at-large
Dukes HHH (Pa.): at-large
Fellowship of Christian Athletes (Md.): automatic - 2012 U15 National Championship runner-up
Florida: automatic - 2012 U15 National Championship third place
Florida Storm: at-large
Florida Swashbucklers: at-large
For the Love of the Game (N.Y.): at-large
Long Island Express (N.Y.): automatic - 2012 U15 National Champion
Long Island Jesters (N.Y.): at-large
Maverick Select (N.J.): at-large
NESLL (N.H.): at-large
Tenacious Turtles (N.Y.): at-large
Utah: at-large

2012 Playoff Results

Quarterfinals
Norcal Talon (Calif.) 5, Blue Devil Elite (Fla.) 3
Florida 10, NESLL (Mass.) 2
Fellowship of Christian Athletes (Md.) 17, Looney’s (Md.) 3
Long Island Express (N.Y.) 9, For the Love of the Game (N.Y.) 6

Semifinals
FCA (Md.) 16, Florida 6
Long Island Express (N.Y.) 8, Norcal Talon (Calif.) 2

Championship Game
Long Island Express (N.Y.) 7, FCA (Md.) 4

Third-Place Game
Florida 9, Norcal Talon (Calif.) 8

Group Play Match Schedule - Friday, July 26th

July 26 - 8 a.m.

Field 18: Long Island Express Piranhas vs. Florida Carolina
Field 19: Dukes HHH vs. Utah
Field 25: Brady's Bunch vs. Florida Swashbucklers
Field 26: Long Island Express Turtles vs. C2C Black
Field 27: For the Love of the Game vs. Triad Elite
Field 28: Maverick Select vs. 3d Select

July 26 - 9 a.m.

Field 18: Long Island Jesters vs. Storm
Field 19: Colorado 14ers vs. Next Level
Field 25: Green Machine vs. NESLL
Field 26: FCA vs. Winston-Salem
Field 27: New Jersey North East vs. Florida Navy
Field 28: Long Island Express Barracudas vs. Colorado

July 26 - 10 a.m.

Field 18: Utah vs. Long Island Express Piranhas
Field 19: Florida Carolina vs. Dukes HHH
Field 25: C2C Black vs. Brady's Bunch
Field 26: Florida Swashbucklers vs. Long Island Express Turtles
Field 27: 3d Select vs. For the Love of the Game
Field 28: Triad Elite vs. Maverick Select

July 26 - 11 a.m.

Field 18: Next Level vs. Long Island Jesters
Field 19: Storm vs. Colorado 14ers
Field 25: Winston-Salem vs. Green Machine
Field 26: NESLL vs. FCA
Field 27: Colorado vs. New Jersey North East
Field 28: Florida Navy vs. Long Island Express Barracudas

July 26 - Noon

Field 18: Long Island Express Piranhas vs. Dukes HHH
Field 19: Florida Carolina vs. Utah
Field 25: Brady's Bunch vs. Long Island Express Turtles
Field 26: Florida Swashbucklers vs. C2C Black
Field 27: For the Love of the Game vs. Maverick Select
Field 28: Triad Elite vs. 3d Select

July 26 - 1 p.m.

Field 18: Long Island Jesters vs. Colorado 14ers
Field 19: Storm vs. Next Level
Field 25: Green Machine vs. FCA
Field 26: NESLL vs. Winston-Salem
Field 27: New Jersey North East vs. Long Island Express Barracudas
Field 28: Florida Navy

July 27

8 a.m.: Games Begin

July 28

8 a.m.: Games Begin
2 p.m. : Awards Ceremony

2013 U15 National Championship - Participating Teams

3d Select (Colo.)
Brady's Bunch (Calif.)
C2C Black (Texas)
Colorado
Colorado 14ers
Dukes HHH (Pa.)
FCA (Md.)
Florida Carolina
Florida Navy
Florida Swashbucklers
For the Love of the Game (N.Y.)
Green Machine (Ind.)
LI Express Barracudas (N.Y.)
LI Express Piranhas (N.Y.)
LI Express Turtles (N.Y.)
Long Island Jesters (N.Y.)
Maverick Select (N.J.)
NESLL (Mass./N.H.)
New Jersey North East
Next Level (R.I.)
Storm (Fla.)
Triad Elite (N.C.)
Utah
Winston-Salem (N.C.)

Does anyone know if the Turtles are the only 2017 in this tourney? Most of the teams are 2016

FCA (MD) and Dukes HHH (PA) are both 2017.

You have to remember that different parts of the country have different cut off dates to start school. In most parts of the country, 2017 teams are U-15 where in NY, many of the 2016 kids are still u-15 eligible.

Yeah that's 2017 via MD and PA math. No 2016 in those programs would qualify with birth certificate rule. Why wouldn't they be there? Uhhh, cause they're too OLD!!!

Once again no Crabs - does anybody know why? Surely that program could put together a fantastic group of kids that meet the age cutoff. Also, surprised that there is only one California team - where are the West Coast Starz? They represented themselves admirably in this tournament the past few years. My pick to win it all - New Jersey North.

I don't know if crabs would really compete agewise. Some good players

NJ Northeast all 2017 (rising freshmen)

Your rising sophomores would be too OLD. Otherwise they would be playing... that darn birth certificate rule keeps getting in the way. Why can't it be like all the tournaments where we play down???

Sounds like excuses coming out again...... If PA and MD use their math for 2017 (mid-late 1998) birthdays, then wouldn't the 2016 from the rest of the country be the same age? So I don't see how the MD and PA teams are playing down if LI 2016 are 1998 and MD/PA 2017 are 1998.

School cut off dates are different throughout the country. LI is generally 12/ 1 - child must turn 5 by 12/1 of year starting kindergarten. PA is 9/1 - child must turn 5 by 9/1 of year beginning kindergarten. I'm not sure what cut off date is generally used in MD.

Hello anybody home? You just proved my point. In this tournament you have to provide a birth certificate. That's why your 2016 are not eligible and ours are. So between your hold backs, grade repeaters and later cutoff you have to send 2017's. If it was a regular tournament with no proof of age all those ineligible OLDER kids would playing DOWN against younger kids. That's why everything needs to go age specific with birth certificate proof.

US Lacrosse needs to establish two standards for all their tournaments BOTH age and grade.

The U-15 National Championship is intended to be Rising Freshmen, but US Lacrosse is ambiguous.

The reason they use U-15 instead of U-14 is so that the 10-15% of rising freshmen who are not U-14 eligible do not have to sit on the sidelines for a year watching their classmates play.

Unfortunately, the U-15s who already completed Freshman year (rising sophmores) are aslo playing. They are at a distinct advantage having experience with the speed of the H.S. game. US Lacrosse does itslef a disservice allowing this to occur.

Cage, any idea where this age year/grade year stands with US Lacrosse? Do you know if they are even considering?

Most of the teams that play in this tournament are rising sophomores. When the Jesters won a few years ago it was a team of rising sophomores and the express team last year were rising sophomores.

If you are asking what the restrictions are for this tournament as established by US Lacrosse, yes, these restrictions are published here (click here).

Player Ages and Eligibility

All current US Lacrosse members who meet the age requirement below are eligible and welcome to compete in the 2013 US Lacrosse U15 National Championship.

Birthdate Status

Born on or after 9/1/1997 - Eligible for U15 Championship

Proof of Age Submission

All 2013 U15 National Championship participants are required to submit to US Lacrosse a copy of a proof of age document in order to be eligible to participate in this event. Note: If a player participated in 2012, US Lacrosse already has his/her proof of age filed unless stated otherwise.

Acceptable proof of age documents:
•Birth Certificate
•Passport
•School ID (if date of birth is present on ID)

As a group, too many of our posters confuse themselves because they start mixing the U-age groups with High School Class Years and then start using quantifiers like "some" and "most".

Age group classifications are an "all" or "none" quantifier which makes your observation worthless and only creates more arguments over teams that are cheating.

BOTC has published the absolute rules on this tournament that will be validated at check-in. Discussing these National Championships in terms of school years, grade levels, or class (freshman, sophomore) shows a lack of understanding.

Born on or after 9/1/1997

That's it. End of discussion.

(How much clearer can it possibly be?)

Thanks cage. Now for all you people who held there kid back, or repeated a grade, it doesn't matter if your kid is 2016, 2017 or 2018 it's his age!!! If we could only get this for every tournament and showcase, it would really get rid of all the nonsense...

The Turtles will be in this tourney again next year.

And will win it AGAIN next year. BTB = #chosenones.

You NY idiots are something else. I don't live in MD, nor does my son play for the Crabs. But we know most of those 2016, and nearly all of them could play U15 in terms of age. Get over yourself.

Mid-Atlantic teams don't go to this tournament because it's a fraud. Plus it's outrageously expensive to fly down to FL just to play mostly average lacrosse teams.

Need to beat Dukes HHH in your own age group first. Forgot about that loss already? Maybe Dukes are the chosen ones.

There goes the pompous turtle parents again
Chosen ones--give me a break! Lost a few of
The tourneys you been in this yr eh? Everyone's
Catching up to you guys. I guess that's what
Happens when you duck most of the competion.
Chosen ones quickly becoming the forgotten ones.
Like everyone's been saying about you guys:
Good skills, too small. Your lax daddy's will keep
Bragging that your the greatest though.

Hate much??

Joey Sanky too small? Jordan Wolf too small? Yes - chosen to be on the best team in 2017 or 2016. And we're about to prove it.

That's a ridiculous statement - like all Mid-Atlantic teams got together in some sort of "State of the Union of Mid-Atlantic youth lacrosse" Congress and held a vote to denounce that a tournament hosted by the sport's governing body should be declared a fraud. Exactly on what basis is this tournament a fraud? Wait, I think I know the answer - this tournament doesn't allow Mid-Atlantic states to play down so it's a fraud. Face it, mid-Atlantic teams just can't compete if not allowed to play down.

Why aren't all lacrosse youth tournaments mandated to follow this age limit? Isn't this supposed to be the sport's governing body?

Unless of course the Turtles meet up with the Express Piranhas in the Championship in which case it will be declared a tie with co-champions.

What about FCA? They are from MD and last I checked that is about as Mid-Atlantic as it gets. Also, I'd consider the 2 or 3 NC teams "mid-Atlantic" according to my map.

I see Chanenchuk is listed as the coach for the baracudas. What happened to Powers? I can't imagine Powers would pass up an opportunity to win this.

You mean Cudas dolt. If you plan to bash someone, get your facts straight first.

Don't worry just show up

Everyone knows this tournament is a joke. Have a fun time in FL wasting your money.