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Anyone have a grasp for how often on age freshman make varsity on MIAA teams?

Is it routine? An totally anomaly?

My kid is in middle school and am just wondering.
MM will chime in soon and let you know that all of his 91 players make V freshman year. Other than them, I would say not many out of all the freshman players out there.

On age? More of an anomaly in the MIAA. Especially at the top 5. I know of just a handful. And they were on bottom-half MIAA teams. No knock. But it makes sense, obviously as there more opportunities at those schools.

Want to know your chances? Look at the overall program numbers. Most of the schools like CH, Loyola, BL, have 100+ kids in their lax programs.

25 Fresh/Soph, 25 JV, 40+ Varsity. 10+ underclass wannabes/cuts. You have better chances at smaller or developing schools like StM, StP, JC, MSJ, Severn.

A better, more telling stat- see how many kids are in the freshman class across ALL teams. And then how many seniors the varsity has rostered.

My son is a '22 and was looking at one of the larger, all-male high schools. At the time, he would have been one of 14 incoming ATTACKMEN in his freshman class. There are currently only 11 kids from the ENTIRE class of 22 who made it through to senior year. He settled on one of the schools above, and has been varsity since Soph year. Gotten a lot of game tape against the best in the nation, and committed to Navy. Been a great experience.

Your son is a 22 Attackmen going to a navy?

His son should have stuck with UMBC. He won’t see the field at Navy. He wouldn’t have seen the field at “one of the larger all male schools” Like all 2022 Dbacks, he peaked in 6th grade. But hey congrats on free college though

What a garbage comment (Okay the dbacks trolling was good). 75% of the BOTC dads won't see their kids ever take the field at D1-D3 and you need to start mentally preparing for that, rather than pissing on the kid for getting lesser level HS playing time and getting a USNA commission...and on the lax roster. Seriously.

I smell a USNA dropout in our midst.......who didn't get rostered for lax whatsoever at USNA and finished his education at Towson as a non athlete. You are like the Uncle Rico of BOTC. I bet you can BTB a shot over that next mountain. If coach woulda put you in, you woulda won state!

Thanks Sally. Like I said, CONGRATS on free school. Mine didn't get a fool ride to play in college from the original school the 22 attackman left because he couldn't play. Save my post and shove it back in my face when he regularly sees the field at Navy.

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Anyone have a grasp for how often on age freshman make varsity on MIAA teams?

Is it routine? An totally anomaly?

My kid is in middle school and am just wondering.
MM will chime in soon and let you know that all of his 91 players make V freshman year. Other than them, I would say not many out of all the freshman players out there.

On age? More of an anomaly in the MIAA. Especially at the top 5. I know of just a handful. And they were on bottom-half MIAA teams. No knock. But it makes sense, obviously as there more opportunities at those schools.

Want to know your chances? Look at the overall program numbers. Most of the schools like CH, Loyola, BL, have 100+ kids in their lax programs.

25 Fresh/Soph, 25 JV, 40+ Varsity. 10+ underclass wannabes/cuts. You have better chances at smaller or developing schools like StM, StP, JC, MSJ, Severn.

A better, more telling stat- see how many kids are in the freshman class across ALL teams. And then how many seniors the varsity has rostered.

My son is a '22 and was looking at one of the larger, all-male high schools. At the time, he would have been one of 14 incoming ATTACKMEN in his freshman class. There are currently only 11 kids from the ENTIRE class of 22 who made it through to senior year. He settled on one of the schools above, and has been varsity since Soph year. Gotten a lot of game tape against the best in the nation, and committed to Navy. Been a great experience.

Your son is a 22 Attackmen going to a navy?

His son should have stuck with UMBC. He won’t see the field at Navy. He wouldn’t have seen the field at “one of the larger all male schools” Like all 2022 Dbacks, he peaked in 6th grade. But hey congrats on free college though

What a garbage comment (Okay the dbacks trolling was good). 75% of the BOTC dads won't see their kids ever take the field at D1-D3 and you need to start mentally preparing for that, rather than pissing on the kid for getting lesser level HS playing time and getting a USNA commission...and on the lax roster. Seriously.

I smell a USNA dropout in our midst.......who didn't get rostered for lax whatsoever at USNA and finished his education at Towson as a non athlete. You are like the Uncle Rico of BOTC. I bet you can BTB a shot over that next mountain. If coach woulda put you in, you woulda won state

Thanks Sally. Like I said, CONGRATS on free school. Mine didn't get a fool ride to play in college from the original school the 22 attackman left because he couldn't play. Save my post and shove it back in my face when he regularly sees the field at Navy.

What are you mumbling about? You logic and envy are confusing?

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It's also worth noting that Spencer MADE the BL Varsity as a soph; he just wouldn't have gotten much tick, hence the suggestion to play JV
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It's also worth noting that Spencer MADE the BL Varsity as a soph; he just wouldn't have gotten much tick, hence the suggestion to play JV

Also worth noting that he played Fresh/Soph in his first freshman year at SM.


And that he had a huge growth spurt. Nothing like growing 5 inches or so to change things.

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Anyone else think these high profile 2023s from celebrity dads are going to spend a lot of time on the bench?

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I heard that Spaulding was being eliminated from playoffs in 2022 due to tampering. Any truth to this?

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I heard that Spaulding was being eliminated from playoffs in 2022 due to tampering. Any truth to this?

Of course not, but the Spalding non believers will salivate over this. Spalding is on their way up to top of the MIAA.

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I heard that Spaulding was being eliminated from playoffs in 2022 due to tampering. Any truth to this?

Wow, still upset your son wasnt invited to go to Spalding. Give it a rest.

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Saw some talk about high school program numbers in different threads.
It's still an Interesting look at the roster numbers in A schools as posted on their own websites. Not responsible for any errors. All Info appears to be accurate as of the '21 season.
And this doesn't take into account kids who are cut.

121 Calvert Hall
31 F/S
37 JV
53 V

111 Loyola
21 F/S
37 JV
53 V

97 St Mary's
25 F/S
29 JV
43 V

86 Spalding
18 F
31 JV
37 V

84 Boys Latin
20 F/S
29 JV
35 V

64 John Carroll
0 F/S
29 JV
35 V

55 Severn
0 F/S
26 JV
29 V


No numbers reported, but website indicates:
StP has a JV and V team
McD has a JV and V team
MSJ has a F/S, JV and V team
Gilman has a Club, F/S, JV and V team

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121 Calvert Hall (1200 Boys Enrollment)
31 F/S
37 JV
53 V

111 Loyola (1000 Boys Enrollment)
21 F/S
37 JV
53 V

97 St Mary's (500 Total Enrollment- 250 Boys Enrollment)
25 F/S
29 JV
43 V

86 Spalding (1250 Total Enrollment- 625 Boys Enrollment)
18 F
31 JV
37 V

84 Boys Latin (600 Boys Enrollment)
20 F/S
29 JV
35 V

64 John Carroll (700 Total Enrollment- 350 Boys Enrollment)
0 F/S
29 JV
35 V

55 Severn (850 Total Enrollment- 425 Boys Enrollment)
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For all the folks talking about "committing" to Navy, keep in mind such a commitment depends on the kid getting in. And unlike other schools, coaches at the Academy are strictly prohibited from contacting admissions or otherwise attempting to influence the process. So while admissions takes into account sports achievements (especially things like being a captain), that doesn't mean a kid is getting admitted with poor grades and test scores just because he "committed". The most likely outcome in those cases is that the kid will be encouraged to attend the Navy prep school up in RI for a year. Assuming the kid is willing take that year, then he has a very good chance of admission.

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Enrollment added:

121 Calvert Hall (1200 Boys Enrollment)
31 F/S
37 JV
53 V

111 Loyola (1000 Boys Enrollment)
21 F/S
37 JV
53 V

97 St Mary's (500 Total Enrollment- 250 Boys Enrollment)
25 F/S
29 JV
43 V

86 Spalding (1250 Total Enrollment- 625 Boys Enrollment)
18 F
31 JV
37 V

84 Boys Latin (600 Boys Enrollment)
20 F/S
29 JV
35 V

64 John Carroll (700 Total Enrollment- 350 Boys Enrollment)
0 F/S
29 JV
35 V

55 Severn (850 Total Enrollment- 425 Boys Enrollment)
0 F/S
26 JV
29 V

Where are you getting these numbers. Inaccurate. Severn has 450 in the upper school - altogether.

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Anyone else think these high profile 2023s from celebrity dads are going to spend a lot of time on the bench?

Yeah - there are a lot of '22 and '23 high profile kids with influential dads that will either spend time on the bench or be thoroughly embarrassed once they get on the field in college. The dad coaches of these '22 & '23 D1 commits will not longer be able to set all the plays to run through their kids or work the refs for preferential treatment. I'm very surprised the head coaches at 'Cuse, UNC, Duke, Navy, MD etc. bought into all of this - they are opening themselves up to a ton of headaches dealing with these helicopter dad coaches.

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For all the folks talking about "committing" to Navy, keep in mind such a commitment depends on the kid getting in. And unlike other schools, coaches at the Academy are strictly prohibited from contacting admissions or otherwise attempting to influence the process. So while admissions takes into account sports achievements (especially things like being a captain), that doesn't mean a kid is getting admitted with poor grades and test scores just because he "committed". The most likely outcome in those cases is that the kid will be encouraged to attend the Navy prep school up in RI for a year. Assuming the kid is willing take that year, then he has a very good chance of admission.

What if he beats up a Navy swim commit? Better or worse chances of getting playing time?

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Anyone else think these high profile 2023s from celebrity dads are going to spend a lot of time on the bench?

Yeah - there are a lot of '22 and '23 high profile kids with influential dads that will either spend time on the bench or be thoroughly embarrassed once they get on the field in college. The dad coaches of these '22 & '23 D1 commits will not longer be able to set all the plays to run through their kids or work the refs for preferential treatment. I'm very surprised the head coaches at 'Cuse, UNC, Duke, Navy, MD etc. bought into all of this - they are opening themselves up to a ton of headaches dealing with these helicopter dad coaches.

I do find it interesting of the recruits and schools, But most are very good players and better than majority . Several area coaches sons have been recruited/gone to very good D1 schools, Most will not see field or are sitting on bench now. But they will be assets during practice and will have HS coach thinking highly of college program for future recruits .

The funnel of players gets smaller and smaller as you go to college at top D1 schools. Better be more than smart Lax IQ and have great stickwork which many 5-8 to 5-11 MIAA players have.

Recent example is the ECD head cam video of shutdown of top recruit going to a big D1 school. Clear the D owns him. That will not get you playing time at D1 if you cant beat your man in practice. He still has time to get better, but he is supposedly the best player at this time.

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Anyone else think these high profile 2023s from celebrity dads are going to spend a lot of time on the bench?

Yeah - there are a lot of '22 and '23 high profile kids with influential dads that will either spend time on the bench or be thoroughly embarrassed once they get on the field in college. The dad coaches of these '22 & '23 D1 commits will not longer be able to set all the plays to run through their kids or work the refs for preferential treatment. I'm very surprised the head coaches at 'Cuse, UNC, Duke, Navy, MD etc. bought into all of this - they are opening themselves up to a ton of headaches dealing with these helicopter dad coaches.

I do find it interesting of the recruits and schools, But most are very good players and better than majority . Several area coaches sons have been recruited/gone to very good D1 schools, Most will not see field or are sitting on bench now. But they will be assets during practice and will have HS coach thinking highly of college program for future recruits .

The funnel of players gets smaller and smaller as you go to college at top D1 schools. Better be more than smart Lax IQ and have great stickwork which many 5-8 to 5-11 MIAA players have.

Recent example is the ECD head cam video of shutdown of top recruit going to a big D1 school. Clear the D owns him. That will not get you playing time at D1 if you cant beat your man in practice. He still has time to get better, but he is supposedly the best player at this time.

Sorry your kid hasn’t gotten any looks/offers. Keep working on those stick skills. 😂

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Parent of a '22 recruit (happy with results of his recruiting so this isn't sour grapes) - the 2022 class was so chock full of high profile 'coaches kids' it was a clown show sometimes trying to separate the talent from the hype. Off the top of my head there were at least 10 kids (primarily offense but there were a couple poles) who constantly appeared in podcast and IL media coverage. You want to hear a coincidence? The dads were also coaching at all these events, determining the lineups and playing time and also making sure that the best defensemen were put on their kids teams so that they didn't get shut down playing against them. Yes, most of them got 'highly recruited' to top D1 teams but I agree with the assessment above that "Most will not see field or are sitting on bench now. But they will be assets during practice and will have HS coach thinking highly of college program for future recruits ." The ordinary non-coach's kids who managed to get five star ratings are impressive IMO.

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Anyone else think these high profile 2023s from celebrity dads are going to spend a lot of time on the bench?

Yeah - there are a lot of '22 and '23 high profile kids with influential dads that will either spend time on the bench or be thoroughly embarrassed once they get on the field in college. The dad coaches of these '22 & '23 D1 commits will not longer be able to set all the plays to run through their kids or work the refs for preferential treatment. I'm very surprised the head coaches at 'Cuse, UNC, Duke, Navy, MD etc. bought into all of this - they are opening themselves up to a ton of headaches dealing with these helicopter dad coaches.

I do find it interesting of the recruits and schools, But most are very good players and better than majority . Several area coaches sons have been recruited/gone to very good D1 schools, Most will not see field or are sitting on bench now. But they will be assets during practice and will have HS coach thinking highly of college program for future recruits .

The funnel of players gets smaller and smaller as you go to college at top D1 schools. Better be more than smart Lax IQ and have great stickwork which many 5-8 to 5-11 MIAA players have.

Recent example is the ECD head cam video of shutdown of top recruit going to a big D1 school. Clear the D owns him. That will not get you playing time at D1 if you cant beat your man in practice. He still has time to get better, but he is supposedly the best player at this time.

Sorry your kid hasn’t gotten any looks/offers. Keep working on those stick skills. 😂

Will do ! So that is what you got out of that? LOL

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Anyone else think these high profile 2023s from celebrity dads are going to spend a lot of time on the bench?

Yeah - there are a lot of '22 and '23 high profile kids with influential dads that will either spend time on the bench or be thoroughly embarrassed once they get on the field in college. The dad coaches of these '22 & '23 D1 commits will not longer be able to set all the plays to run through their kids or work the refs for preferential treatment. I'm very surprised the head coaches at 'Cuse, UNC, Duke, Navy, MD etc. bought into all of this - they are opening themselves up to a ton of headaches dealing with these helicopter dad coaches.

I do find it interesting of the recruits and schools, But most are very good players and better than majority . Several area coaches sons have been recruited/gone to very good D1 schools, Most will not see field or are sitting on bench now. But they will be assets during practice and will have HS coach thinking highly of college program for future recruits .

The funnel of players gets smaller and smaller as you go to college at top D1 schools. Better be more than smart Lax IQ and have great stickwork which many 5-8 to 5-11 MIAA players have.

Recent example is the ECD head cam video of shutdown of top recruit going to a big D1 school. Clear the D owns him. That will not get you playing time at D1 if you cant beat your man in practice. He still has time to get better, but he is supposedly the best player at this time.

Sorry your kid hasn’t gotten any looks/offers. Keep working on those stick skills. 😂

Will do ! So that is what you got out of that? LOL

Pretty apparent you’re bitter over your kid not getting any attention so you bash those that did. Again tell him to keep grinding; D3 is there for him!

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So sick of these high profile girl athletes as well. We got em over here too. They’re annoying and I hope it’s not just us in the player side that sees it. Do you think coaches can ID these annoyances as well? Tourney-“junkies”

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Enrollment added:

121 Calvert Hall (1200 Boys Enrollment)
31 F/S
37 JV
53 V

111 Loyola (1000 Boys Enrollment)
21 F/S
37 JV
53 V

97 St Mary's (500 Total Enrollment- 250 Boys Enrollment)
25 F/S
29 JV
43 V

86 Spalding (1250 Total Enrollment- 625 Boys Enrollment)
18 F
31 JV
37 V

84 Boys Latin (600 Boys Enrollment)
20 F/S
29 JV
35 V

64 John Carroll (700 Total Enrollment- 350 Boys Enrollment)
0 F/S
29 JV
35 V

55 Severn (850 Total Enrollment- 425 Boys Enrollment)
0 F/S
26 JV
29 V

Good stuff. The program numbers are interesting. Some schools really do recruit a ton of kids.

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How does St Mary’s have so many lax players? Do they only admit lacrosse playing males?

Calvert Hall and Loyola numbers are crazy. You better make a good impression as a freshman, or have a transfer plan in place.

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How does St Mary’s have so many lax players? Do they only admit lacrosse playing males?

Calvert Hall and Loyola numbers are crazy. You better make a good impression as a freshman, or have a transfer plan in place.

I hear Spalding's JV was good last year. This might be their year.

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Enrollment added:

121 Calvert Hall (1200 Boys Enrollment)
31 F/S
37 JV
53 V

111 Loyola (1000 Boys Enrollment)
21 F/S
37 JV
53 V

97 St Mary's (500 Total Enrollment- 250 Boys Enrollment)
25 F/S
29 JV
43 V

86 Spalding (1250 Total Enrollment- 625 Boys Enrollment)
18 F
31 JV
37 V

84 Boys Latin (600 Boys Enrollment)
20 F/S
29 JV
35 V

64 John Carroll (700 Total Enrollment- 350 Boys Enrollment)
0 F/S
29 JV
35 V

55 Severn (850 Total Enrollment- 425 Boys Enrollment)
0 F/S
26 JV
29 V

Good stuff. The program numbers are interesting. Some schools really do recruit a ton of kids.

Is there any overlap in these numbers? I know that sometimes players are double rostered on JV and V.

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Enrollment added:

121 Calvert Hall (1200 Boys Enrollment)
31 F/S
37 JV
53 V

111 Loyola (1000 Boys Enrollment)
21 F/S
37 JV
53 V

97 St Mary's (500 Total Enrollment- 250 Boys Enrollment)
25 F/S
29 JV
43 V

86 Spalding (1250 Total Enrollment- 625 Boys Enrollment)
18 F
31 JV
37 V

84 Boys Latin (600 Boys Enrollment)
20 F/S
29 JV
35 V

64 John Carroll (700 Total Enrollment- 350 Boys Enrollment)
0 F/S
29 JV
35 V

55 Severn (850 Total Enrollment- 425 Boys Enrollment)
0 F/S
26 JV
29 V

Good stuff. The program numbers are interesting. Some schools really do recruit a ton of kids.

Is there any overlap in these numbers? I know that sometimes players are double rostered on JV and V.

Not that I can tell. From a quick scan, I'd say almost none, if any.

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Severn School has 850 total enrolled from PK-12 In the Upper School there is 420 total. So, total boys enrollment in the Upper School is about 210 give or take, not 425

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Loyola numbers off, upper school enrollment 700-725

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How does St Mary’s have so many lax players? Do they only admit lacrosse playing males?

Calvert Hall and Loyola numbers are crazy. You better make a good impression as a freshman, or have a transfer plan in place.

I hear Spalding's JV was good last year. This might be their year.

Spalding Varsity did well last year too. Looking good for this year . Ship coming soon

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Enrollment numbers are a little high for each, but Roster numbers are what was posted on the website for 2021 season.
Makes the ratio of lax players at each school even higher.
Like many colleges these days, these private schools are riding lax players as enrollment builders. No wonder the MIAA leadership is toothless and told to stand down by the member institutions - Lacrosse is a main enrollment driver.

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How does St Mary’s have so many lax players? Do they only admit lacrosse playing males?

Calvert Hall and Loyola numbers are crazy. You better make a good impression as a freshman, or have a transfer plan in place.

I hear Spalding's JV was good last year. This might be their year.

STM JV won it all last year I believe

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Loyola numbers off, upper school enrollment 700-725

Impossible. There is NO way that inaccurate info was shared in BOTC.

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How does St Mary’s have so many lax players? Do they only admit lacrosse playing males?

Calvert Hall and Loyola numbers are crazy. You better make a good impression as a freshman, or have a transfer plan in place.

I hear Spalding's JV was good last year. This might be their year.

Spalding Varsity did well last year too. Looking good for this year . Ship coming soon

Spalding will be good this year but maybe 3rd or 4th behind CH, McD and maybe even BL.

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How does St Mary’s have so many lax players? Do they only admit lacrosse playing males?

Calvert Hall and Loyola numbers are crazy. You better make a good impression as a freshman, or have a transfer plan in place.

I hear Spalding's JV was good last year. This might be their year.

Spalding Varsity did well last year too. Looking good for this year . Ship coming soon

Scrimmage and JV wins don’t translate into winning a varsity championship. Coaching hurt them last year. Don’t think they fixed that.

CH is coming.

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How does St Mary’s have so many lax players? Do they only admit lacrosse playing males?

Calvert Hall and Loyola numbers are crazy. You better make a good impression as a freshman, or have a transfer plan in place.

I hear Spalding's JV was good last year. This might be their year.

Spalding Varsity did well last year too. Looking good for this year . Ship coming soon

Scrimmage and JV wins don’t translate into winning a varsity championship. Coaching hurt them last year. Don’t think they fixed that.

CH is coming.

CH fell apart when they lost one player last year. That doesn't smack of great coaching either. Especially when you have 110 kids in the program behind him.

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CH didn’t fall apart. They were a goal short of playing in the finals.

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CH didn’t fall apart. They were a goal short of playing in the finals.
They were a 6 seed.

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CH didn’t fall apart. They were a goal short of playing in the finals.
They were a 6 seed.

BL was a 5 seed. Did they fall apart too?

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CH didn’t fall apart. They were a goal short of playing in the finals.
They were a 6 seed.

BL was a 5 seed. Did they fall apart too?

Sorry Boys, Say what you want, Spalding takes the title this year .

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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CH didn’t fall apart. They were a goal short of playing in the finals.
They were a 6 seed.

BL was a 5 seed. Did they fall apart too?

Sorry Boys, Say what you want, Spalding takes the title this year .

They lost 5 starters. And replaced with what bunch of D3 guys maybe. Mighty Mouse going to carry the whole team if they can win a FO and make Defensive stop

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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CH didn’t fall apart. They were a goal short of playing in the finals.
They were a 6 seed.

BL was a 5 seed. Did they fall apart too?

Overachieving and underachieving are real things.

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Loyola numbers off, upper school enrollment 700-725

Impossible. There is NO way that inaccurate info was shared in BOTC.[/quote]

Roster size numbers are correct though.

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