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That's harsh, finally someone goes outside the norm of saying how good the YJ are and he/she is a buffoon or a clown? I would agree with the assessment, unless you have a better answer o wise one. Have you never heard the analysts talk about "top recruiting classes?"

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Now that the top tier recruits have pretty much committed, it looks like UNC will have the best recruiting class for 2023's. All 6 of them look like studs. BC didn't need much for this class and then it averages out after that.

Pro teams wait 3 years before they assess their draft picks. You are ready to anoint the best recruit class without anyone stepping onto a college lacrosse field. Do you think your assessment is a tad premature?

Of course they don’t. Haven’t you read the nonsense on here by the buffoons on here who think they know who all of the best players are? It’s very amusing reading what these clowns write.

UNC has the best recruiting class? That’s funny. They got one outstanding player (attacker). Then some other girls who could be considered top recruits. But then again, so did several other teams. Reminder about last year when UNC was supposed to be the super team. Did not end well. Let the girls play before you decide who’s best

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What happened to Liberty with this class? They don’t seem to have any top recruits. Is this an indicator that the club is going down or it’s just a bad year for them?

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I really enjoy reading these forums to gather a lot of useful lacrosse insight. However, it’s gets tiring when one has to wade through all the insults and bickering. Any chance we can keep these posts to productive lacrosse info, especially for us not from LI folks?
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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

Duh. Maybe has to do with grades? And, what the players want to go to school for, logistics , etc . Not everyone is cut out for Stanford! Or, maybe not everyone wants to go to Stanford, even with good grades. To each their own, congrats to both and good luck!!

All together now… coaches recruit players not teams!

Exactly...there are a lot of great players on that "B" team.... They have a bunch of commits ...

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What happened to Liberty with this class? They don’t seem to have any top recruits. Is this an indicator that the club is going down or it’s just a bad year for them?

Yes, I'm curious about Liberty too. I seem to have seen more about their 22 team but haven't heard much about 23 team.

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What happened to Liberty with this class? They don’t seem to have any top recruits. Is this an indicator that the club is going down or it’s just a bad year for them?

Yes, I'm curious about Liberty too. I seem to have seen more about their 22 team but haven't heard much about 23 team.


Liberty is losing the GC kids to Tradition, and the Manhasset girls no longer feel the heavy pressure to play there. The 24 team is solid but they have a lot of work to do at the younger ages

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Now that the top tier recruits have pretty much committed, it looks like UNC will have the best recruiting class for 2023's. All 6 of them look like studs. BC didn't need much for this class and then it averages out after that.

Pro teams wait 3 years before they assess their draft picks. You are ready to anoint the best recruit class without anyone stepping onto a college lacrosse field. Do you think your assessment is a tad premature?

Pros also evaluate those same draft picks based on their potential and performances at their current level. what's your point? these players are evaluated based on their performances for their club teams and high school. Common sense says some of these girls will continue to excel at the next level, some won't. Just as with anything in pro sports or life. Nothing ground breaking here. critical thinking folks. use it.

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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

Duh. Maybe has to do with grades? And, what the players want to go to school for, logistics , etc . Not everyone is cut out for Stanford! Or, maybe not everyone wants to go to Stanford, even with good grades. To each their own, congrats to both and good luck!!

Plus UMass is actually a good school and lacrosse program! UMass used to offer some automatic merit money to out of state students above a certain test score/GPA threshold. That stacked with athletic money can make it very attractive financially. Sheesh, it's not like one committed to Stanford and the other committed to one of the lowest ranked D1 programs at a school hardly anyone has heard of.
But at the end of the day, does it matter if someone committed to "one of the lowest ranked D1 programs at a school hardly anyone has heard of"? What a comment!!! NO ONE has any idea of what happens behind closed doors when they make their decisions. There are MANY factors that go in to making THEIR decision. Money, playing time, destination of school, etc. I'm so over reading that players have to go to a "top" school for it to mean anything. The fact that these girls are playing D1 ("top" or "lowest") is a accomplishment in itself. Period. Get over yourself and YOUR expectations

The context of my comment was in regard to UMass Amherst, which some parents would turn their noses up to because it's not an elite private, not top 10 lacrosse, and so on. I now understand the school that was referred to is UMass Lowell, which is not as competitive of a lacrosse program as Stanford, but I agree that no one knows what goes into each player's decision and assumptions should not be made. I know several players who chose schools for the right reasons that were not as "impressive" as others that made offers.

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Had nothing to to with anything related to YJ. Just pointing out how many on this site believe they are know it all experts on who the best players are. It wouldn’t be so bad if they did not try to tear down or diminish the players that they do not even know or the players that they do not believe to be top tier players.

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Since this turned into a goalie discussion; here are a few dumbs questions regarding women(men also) lacrosse goalies. The space to the side of the hips and knees account for a large percentage of collegiate goals. I see these girls being taught to get the stick head down below their waists and also all the way to the ground. The current skill level and shot speeds are making some shots practically impossible to stop. Why is the bottom hand on the stick not taught to be a simple blocker to deflect shots on the right side?

I would guess the gloves really aren't designed for it. More than a few saves and your hand is really going to hurt. Box goalies do this as well, but the gloves are different.

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My other observation is how many straight on bounce shots work, there is time to simply block those with your body like a catcher in baseball.

I know goalies are taught to go to the ball with their bodies, but It seems to me the stick head is still to often the primary hammerhead being used make particular saves despite have to travel the most distance. The goal is to block the shot, not catch it in the stick from a relative outsiders perspective.

This is in transition and goalies are starting to figure this out on their own. It's not being taught yet to young goalies as it goes against the norm. Again, the equipment doesn't support this so it is usually a more advanced goalie who's willing to "eat it" because the protection isn't there but the pain sure is. There'd be no youth goalies if they started like this in second grade.

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That Colorado girl looks like a hybrid lacrosse/ice hockey goalie. She looks ready to pouch before she throws her body at the ball combined with a super quick stick. I think it's why see seems to stand out above the others.

She's amazing!

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Had nothing to to with anything related to YJ. Just pointing out how many on this site believe they are know it all experts on who the best players are. It wouldn’t be so bad if they did not try to tear down or diminish the players that they do not even know or the players that they do not believe to be top tier players.

You mean like the dad who can't stop bragging about his average goalie daughter? Enough already!

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Had nothing to to with anything related to YJ. Just pointing out how many on this site believe they are know it all experts on who the best players are. It wouldn’t be so bad if they did not try to tear down or diminish the players that they do not even know or the players that they do not believe to be top tier players.

You mean like the dad who can't stop bragging about his average goalie daughter? Enough already!

There you have it….. some just can’t help themselves…. Always trying to knock players .

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Had nothing to to with anything related to YJ. Just pointing out how many on this site believe they are know it all experts on who the best players are. It wouldn’t be so bad if they did not try to tear down or diminish the players that they do not even know or the players that they do not believe to be top tier players.

You mean like the dad who can't stop bragging about his average goalie daughter? Enough already!

There you have it….. some just can’t help themselves…. Always trying to knock players .

Knocking the dad, not the player. Sad he feels the need to embarrass his daughter!

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Had nothing to to with anything related to YJ. Just pointing out how many on this site believe they are know it all experts on who the best players are. It wouldn’t be so bad if they did not try to tear down or diminish the players that they do not even know or the players that they do not believe to be top tier players.

You mean like the dad who can't stop bragging about his average goalie daughter? Enough already!

There you have it….. some just can’t help themselves…. Always trying to knock players .

Knocking the dad, not the player. Sad he feels the need to embarrass his daughter!

Go away, you called the kid average, that’s a knock.

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Had nothing to to with anything related to YJ. Just pointing out how many on this site believe they are know it all experts on who the best players are. It wouldn’t be so bad if they did not try to tear down or diminish the players that they do not even know or the players that they do not believe to be top tier players.

You mean like the dad who can't stop bragging about his average goalie daughter? Enough already!

There you have it….. some just can’t help themselves…. Always trying to knock players .

Knocking the dad, not the player. Sad he feels the need to embarrass his daughter!

Go away, you called the kid average, that’s a knock.

The majority of people who put their kids above others are delusional about their talent, and their kid is acually only average. most think their own kids are actually better than they really are. Best not brag on a forum like this because you will be called out

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Had nothing to to with anything related to YJ. Just pointing out how many on this site believe they are know it all experts on who the best players are. It wouldn’t be so bad if they did not try to tear down or diminish the players that they do not even know or the players that they do not believe to be top tier players.

You mean like the dad who can't stop bragging about his average goalie daughter? Enough already!

There you have it….. some just can’t help themselves…. Always trying to knock players .

Knocking the dad, not the player. Sad he feels the need to embarrass his daughter!

Go away, you called the kid average, that’s a knock.

The majority of people who put their kids above others are delusional about their talent, and their kid is acually only average. most think their own kids are actually better than they really are. Best not brag on a forum like this because you will be called out

How in the world do you know that it is the father? Although I do agree with you that there are many delusional parents.... The recruiting process usually lets them know where their daughter actually stands. A lot of the delusional parents happen to be from The Island...

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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

It’s not strange. It’s indicative of the entire process and that each girl will find the right place for them. Congratulations to them!

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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

It’s not strange. It’s indicative of the entire process and that each girl will find the right place for them. Congratulations to them!

The player is a good goalie. The fact is Stanford went through four or more goalies first. So the player won big time.

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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

Duh. Maybe has to do with grades? And, what the players want to go to school for, logistics , etc . Not everyone is cut out for Stanford! Or, maybe not everyone wants to go to Stanford, even with good grades. To each their own, congrats to both and good luck!!

All together now… coaches recruit players not teams!

Exactly...there are a lot of great players on that "B" team.... They have a bunch of commits ...
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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

Duh. Maybe has to do with grades? And, what the players want to go to school for, logistics , etc . Not everyone is cut out for Stanford! Or, maybe not everyone wants to go to Stanford, even with good grades. To each their own, congrats to both and good luck!!

All together now… coaches recruit players not teams!

Exactly...there are a lot of great players on that "B" team.... They have a bunch of commits ...

Speaking of Stanford why did they pick two lefty low attackers and two center middies in the same class?

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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

Duh. Maybe has to do with grades? And, what the players want to go to school for, logistics , etc . Not everyone is cut out for Stanford! Or, maybe not everyone wants to go to Stanford, even with good grades. To each their own, congrats to both and good luck!!

All together now… coaches recruit players not teams!

Exactly...there are a lot of great players on that "B" team.... They have a bunch of commits ...
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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

Duh. Maybe has to do with grades? And, what the players want to go to school for, logistics , etc . Not everyone is cut out for Stanford! Or, maybe not everyone wants to go to Stanford, even with good grades. To each their own, congrats to both and good luck!!

All together now… coaches recruit players not teams!

Exactly...there are a lot of great players on that "B" team.... They have a bunch of commits ...

Speaking of Stanford why did they pick two lefty low attackers and two center middies in the same class?

Apparently you never played lacrosse and I guessing that you never played any sport at a competitive level.

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A loss to jesters is a loss to jesters. You are only as good as your record says you are.

Agreed and the Top Guns are the top ranked team in the Country.

And they have the best recruiting class on LI

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A loss to jesters is a loss to jesters. You are only as good as your record says you are.

Agreed and the Top Guns are the top ranked team in the Country.

And they have the best recruiting class on LI

Yeah but tg program is cancerous unless ur one of the favorites

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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

It’s not strange. It’s indicative of the entire process and that each girl will find the right place for them. Congratulations to them!

The player is a good goalie. The fact is Stanford went through four or more goalies first. So the player won big time.

I agree. She is good. Anyone who says she's average doesn't know what they're looking at. In many cases, B teams produce better goalies than A teams.

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A loss to jesters is a loss to jesters. You are only as good as your record says you are.

Agreed and the Top Guns are the top ranked team in the Country.

And they have the best recruiting class on LI

Be careful saying that they are the best recruiting class on LI. There is a know it all dad on here calling others buffoons and clowns when they mention recruiting classes! LOL

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A loss to jesters is a loss to jesters. You are only as good as your record says you are.

Agreed and the Top Guns are the top ranked team in the Country.

And they have the best recruiting class on LI

Be careful saying that they are the best recruiting class on LI. There is a know it all dad on here calling others buffoons and clowns when they mention recruiting classes! LOL

The college coaches will show us all which girls are the best….. the buffoons and clowns are the ones who think they know it all.

What schools made offers, that will tell you where your daughter stands…. It the Top 10 caliber programs did not make offers …. The kid is most likely not a top tier player.

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Wow! YJB Goalie committed to Stanford, While YJA Goalie commits to UMass. Great for both, but further justifies the frustration with the YJ teams at this age group. Something strange

It’s not strange. It’s indicative of the entire process and that each girl will find the right place for them. Congratulations to them!

The player is a good goalie. The fact is Stanford went through four or more goalies first. So the player won big time.

I agree. She is good. Anyone who says she's average doesn't know what they're looking at. In many cases, B teams produce better goalies than A teams.

“In many cases B teams produce better goalies than A teams”…. I am sorry, this does not happen many times. Look at the last 10 years of YJ A and B team goalies and the A team goalies go to the better lax programs almost every time. I have not seen the goalie in question, but hope is is great for Stanford.

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A loss to jesters is a loss to jesters. You are only as good as your record says you are.

Agreed and the Top Guns are the top ranked team in the Country.

And they have the best recruiting class on LI

Be careful saying that they are the best recruiting class on LI. There is a know it all dad on here calling others buffoons and clowns when they mention recruiting classes! LOL

The college coaches will show us all which girls are the best….. the buffoons and clowns are the ones who think they know it all.

What schools made offers, that will tell you where your daughter stands…. It the Top 10 caliber programs did not make offers …. The kid is most likely not a top tier player.

Not all recruits going to the top 10-15 schools are equal. If they take 7-8 recruits, a couple at the back end are generally not top recruits. You cannot just take the school and say see, it proves she was a top recruit.

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It seems like YJ and Jesters have the best commits so far for the 23 class.

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It seems like YJ and Jesters have the best commits so far for the 23 class.

Seems like both those teams have committed half of their 2023 A teams to d1 already.

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It seems like YJ and Jesters have the best commits so far for the 23 class.

Ummmm it seems like someone should have a look at the TG commits vs Jesters....

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Noooo. They have done well but Top Guns have done very well.

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It seems like YJ and Jesters have the best commits so far for the 23 class.

Seems like both those teams have committed half of their 2023 A teams to d1 already.

The Jesters have 6 commits and YJ have around 8. They must have very small rosters if that's half of their commits.

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It seems like YJ and Jesters have the best commits so far for the 23 class.

Seems like both those teams have committed half of their 2023 A teams to d1 already.

The Jesters have 6 commits and YJ have around 8. They must have very small rosters if that's half of their commits.

I think at this point of the process all three are doing very well. Long Island seems to have some great representation at the 2023 level.

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I think Grizzlies has 15 commits already. That is amazing. Means kids that aren’t even starters are committed.

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I think Grizzlies has 15 commits already. That is amazing. Means kids that aren’t even starters are committed.

Yes, that’s great, but the discussion is about the LI teams. I think if you look at the quality of the commits, TG has the edge

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I think Grizzlies has 15 commits already. That is amazing. Means kids that aren’t even starters are committed.

Yes, that’s great, but the discussion is about the LI teams. I think if you look at the quality of the commits, TG has the edge
OMG, is this really a competition?

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I think Grizzlies has 15 commits already. That is amazing. Means kids that aren’t even starters are committed.

"Yes, that’s great, but the discussion is about the LI teams. I think if you look at the quality of the commits, TG has the edge"

When is Long Island going to realize there is a big wide world of athletes out there? You guys are so small minded.

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I think Grizzlies has 15 commits already. That is amazing. Means kids that aren’t even starters are committed.

"Yes, that’s great, but the discussion is about the LI teams. I think if you look at the quality of the commits, TG has the edge"

When is Long Island going to realize there is a big wide world of athletes out there? You guys are so small minded.

As a LIer, I will admit that what Grizzlies has done is impressive. 15 from 1 team shows how much coaches value the program. Maybe not top lax schools, but they’re top academic schools that would not be easy to get into without lax.

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I think Grizzlies has 15 commits already. That is amazing. Means kids that aren’t even starters are committed.

"Yes, that’s great, but the discussion is about the LI teams. I think if you look at the quality of the commits, TG has the edge"

When is Long Island going to realize there is a big wide world of athletes out there? You guys are so small minded.

As a LIer, I will admit that what Grizzlies has done is impressive. 15 from 1 team shows how much coaches value the program. Maybe not top lax schools, but they’re top academic schools that would not be easy to get into without lax.


Are you aware that the majority of Grizzlies girls are extremely wealthy and are paying full price at the 80k schools they’re going to? That’s great for them since they can clearly afford it. Grizzlies also work off a different model than the LI clubs. They’re roster is double the size and they rotate who attends tournaments.

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