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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #350535 09/22/21 05:10 PM
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We will hear the same nonsense when IL comes out with their Junior List, and we will hear it again next year when IL does their Senior List and again when The Under Armour Senior All Americans are announced.

The fact that the coaching staffs at the majority of the Top 10 - 15 Programs have selected approximately 13 of the 25 just 3 weeks into the process says a lot about the caliber of players on the list.

In the end, the list is just opinion but when players are offered spots at the best programs in the country I have to believe the players are pretty good. There are probably another 15 or so players committed to the Traditional Powers who on not on the list and I am sure that they are excellent players as well but they all can't be recognized because the list was limited to just 25 players.

The bottom line is the list doesn't matter, the real question is, what programs are making offers? If Carolina, BC, UVA, Northwestern, Princeton, Penn, Syracuse, Maryland etc... are offering you know where your daughter stands. If programs of that caliber are not offering then the player is most likely in the next tier. There are a lot of great schools with good lacrosse programs in the next tier but there is definitely a drop in the level of talent.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #350537 09/22/21 05:18 PM
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Not at all. Coaches don't care about lists like this at all!

You are correct, College Coaches only care about their list…

As of now, more than half of that list is committed to many of the best programs so I guess the players were also on the only lists that really matter, the coaches lists. Time will tell where the rest of the players land.

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Anonymous #350543 09/22/21 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Not at all. Coaches don't care about lists like this at all!

You are correct, College Coaches only care about their list…

As of now, more than half of that list is committed to many of the best programs so I guess the players were also on the only lists that really matter, the coaches lists. Time will tell where the rest of the players land.

Exactly! Half. The other half...who knows. Some will commit to good schools..some will not. Meanwhile, a couple question marks. Several girls not on this list have also committed to top 10 schools, where are they? Seems they should be on this list before the random uncommitted girls. There are also many top girls from TG, and YJ who are not on this list and also at let 1-2 from Legacy. How is that? Not one girl from the top team in the country on the list? Seems odd, no?

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Anonymous #350546 09/22/21 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Not at all. Coaches don't care about lists like this at all!

You are correct, College Coaches only care about their list…

As of now, more than half of that list is committed to many of the best programs so I guess the players were also on the only lists that really matter, the coaches lists. Time will tell where the rest of the players land.

Exactly! Half. The other half...who knows. Some will commit to good schools..some will not. Meanwhile, a couple question marks. Several girls not on this list have also committed to top 10 schools, where are they? Seems they should be on this list before the random uncommitted girls. There are also many top girls from TG, and YJ who are not on this list and also at let 1-2 from Legacy. How is that? Not one girl from the top team in the country on the list? Seems odd, no?

It’s all opinion …. BC might like a player, uNC and Syracuse might not….

The real issue is it’s only 25 players, obviously there are very good players not on the list. Listening to the whinny LI parents complain is getting old.

Way too many delusional parents out there.

If your daughter is a top recruit at a top 10 program and is not on the list we get it, she is obviously deserving (but you probably don’t care because it doesn’t matter). However, if you think your daughter is top tier but isn’t receiving offers from top tier teams or is being offered a spot but not much else you still want her to receive attention.

What programs are offering and what are they offering will tell you where your daughter stands.

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Anonymous #350556 09/22/21 10:07 PM
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You all are getting excited over a watch list (not a ranking) of kids in a publication that hasn’t posted anything in 9 months. Seriously?? There are a lot of deserving players to be on a list and quite frankly many kids that have beaten ones on this list regularly. Not discrediting anyone but other than one or two cream players the rest are basically equal including kids not from LI.

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Anonymous #350641 09/23/21 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
You all are getting excited over a watch list (not a ranking) of kids in a publication that hasn’t posted anything in 9 months. Seriously?? There are a lot of deserving players to be on a list and quite frankly many kids that have beaten ones on this list regularly. Not discrediting anyone but other than one or two cream players the rest are basically equal including kids not from LI.

I think the list hasn’t be updated/touched in 9 months is because the kid is buried under 56 empty Mountain Dew cans down in the family basement the only people that care worry too much about their social media profiles for their kids.
Hopefully IL will come out with a list of some kind for the 23’s this October.

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Anonymous #350654 09/23/21 03:18 PM
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Of these top players - some know exactly what they want and some need to explore all of their offers to figure it out. There is also the issue of $$. They are very lucky either way to have such choices! One of the top goalies in the country is still working through her options and therefore other very good goalies are on hold at top 10 schools until she settles into her spot. Each of the schools she is talking to is probably keeping their second choice goalie very engaged in case they have to go that way. It's a domino effect. For the parent who was worried about her daughter not getting communications right now from formerly interested schools, be patient - her time MAY come, but also be realistic and consider all offers. Remember - you can only accept or turn down the offers that you have!

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Of these top players - some know exactly what they want and some need to explore all of their offers to figure it out. There is also the issue of $$. They are very lucky either way to have such choices! One of the top goalies in the country is still working through her options and therefore other very good goalies are on hold at top 10 schools until she settles into her spot. Each of the schools she is talking to is probably keeping their second choice goalie very engaged in case they have to go that way. It's a domino effect. For the parent who was worried about her daughter not getting communications right now from formerly interested schools, be patient - her time MAY come, but also be realistic and consider all offers. Remember - you can only accept or turn down the offers that you have!

Lol, the top 2 goalies already committed. Nice try mom

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Anonymous #350666 09/23/21 04:46 PM
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Yes, lots of top goalies committed already - but not all of them. Some big programs still filling goalie spots. Wonder if they know the best goalies are all gone?!?!? And you with the funny jokes.... my daughter is not a goalie, but is already committed.

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Anonymous #350669 09/23/21 04:55 PM
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Wow-aggressive. The person said “one of the top goalies in the country”. They did not say The top goalie. My daughter is not a goalie and is committed so no dog in-this-fight but to say “The” top 2 goalies committed already is a bit foolish. I Know of some Top goalies who have committed and some Top goalies who have not yet committed.
Saying “Lol, the top two goalies committed already. Nice try Mom” Is ridiculous. No One has been deemed The Top goalie or two anywhere!

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Anonymous #350677 09/23/21 06:40 PM
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Funny Jokes???? Weird. My daughter is in fact Not a goalie and is in fact, committed! You are odd.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #350710 09/24/21 08:56 AM
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This site should be the basis of several studies of human behavior! It's amazing to read the posts from lost trolls just throwing bombs to get attention. Add in the delusional parents trying to fight their kids battles against other delusional, it's just great! Todays crazy media has nothing on this site!! But the true greatness is there is nowhere else to go to get real nuggets of useful information that gets sprinkled all over the posts by "normal" people that are hoping to help their kids and spread helpful information to others. I have become hooked on this site and will continue to be an avid reader and anonymous poster for years to come.

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TheBackOfTheCage #350734 09/24/21 11:49 AM
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This Presidents Cup showcase Prez Cup Launch in Dallas that Friday is is billed as a “learning tournament” but is full of coaches who already have their eyes on certain people and/or are finished recruiting. Players don’t really do these showcases to NOT be seen by people at this point. I just hope these girls don’t get their hopes up too far.
But it seems like these schools on the list are T20 and they already have their lists and contingencies, maybe the schools are looking for a unicorn or 2 amongst 300 anxious teens who have worked hard their whole sporting careers.
Seems like they IWLCA could put some T50 teams in there to make the advertising a bit more honest.

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Anonymous #350745 09/24/21 02:05 PM
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There are other showcases that day as well that may have some T50 coaches. Will try to locate info. Not all have coach lists out yet.
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This Presidents Cup showcase Prez Cup Launch in Dallas that Friday is is billed as a “learning tournament” but is full of coaches who already have their eyes on certain people and/or are finished recruiting. Players don’t really do these showcases to NOT be seen by people at this point. I just hope these girls don’t get their hopes up too far.
But it seems like these schools on the list are T20 and they already have their lists and contingencies, maybe the schools are looking for a unicorn or 2 amongst 300 anxious teens who have worked hard their whole sporting careers.
Seems like they IWLCA could put some T50 teams in there to make the advertising a bit more honest.

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Anonymous #350746 09/24/21 02:18 PM
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There are other showcases that day as well that may have some T50 coaches. Will try to locate info. Not all have coach lists out yet.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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This Presidents Cup showcase Prez Cup Launch in Dallas that Friday is is billed as a “learning tournament” but is full of coaches who already have their eyes on certain people and/or are finished recruiting. Players don’t really do these showcases to NOT be seen by people at this point. I just hope these girls don’t get their hopes up too far.
But it seems like these schools on the list are T20 and they already have their lists and contingencies, maybe the schools are looking for a unicorn or 2 amongst 300 anxious teens who have worked hard their whole sporting careers.
Seems like they IWLCA could put some T50 teams in there to make the advertising a bit more honest.

3d hosts a good event that day too. The Fall Combine. Here is the list from the last time they held it and could have coaches (pre-COVID). It's a mixed bag. There is usually one more too, but can't find that info.

Assumption, Babson, Binghamton, Brown, Bucknell, Colorado, Dartmouth, Davenport University, Denver, Detroit Mercy, Florida, Fresno State, Gardner-Webb, Hamilton College, Iona, Lasalle, Liberty University, Methodist University, Michigan, Monmouth, New England College, New Hampshire, Northwestern, Palm Beach Atlantic University, PITT, Radford, Robert Morris, Salem College, St. Joseph's, St. Lawrence University, Syracuse, Trinity College, UMASS Lowell, University of Oregon, Villanova, Virginia Tech, Wagner, William and Mary, Yale

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