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Re: Girls 2027-7th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #350665 09/23/21 04:28 PM
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

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Anonymous #350667 09/23/21 04:50 PM
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As an outsider, who is thinking about travel lax.....there seems to be an over abundance of discussion with YJ. Good and bad. How do they match up against Long Island teams? wins/loses

It’s really a very small group of 1. Yj parents obsessed with themselves and 2. People who detest them. As said no one doubts they are tops. But as sommeone said, 15ish girls playing, 10 girls parents drinking the koolaid and not playing. End of the day, do as much research as you can and find a place where your daughter will play and get better. The rest is all noise.

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TheBackOfTheCage #350671 09/23/21 05:35 PM
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FLG carries 18 and they all play and play multiple positions.

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Anonymous #350673 09/23/21 06:04 PM
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

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Anonymous #350678 09/23/21 06:55 PM
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

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Anonymous #350679 09/23/21 07:02 PM
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

Maybe but the point is you now have the north shore and manhasset varsity coaches there. If you don’t think that’s going to draw those girls in you are crazy. But time will tell right? Seems like every year is going to be the year of a lot of kids moving and that always seems to fall apart. Obviously still multiple yj teams and flg navy. The rest will play itself out.

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TheBackOfTheCage #350689 09/23/21 10:11 PM
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S2S will be mediocre for years. you kind of need a superteam to make a splash. they had that on the boys side and it attracted a lot of kids. Girls.....let's hope that its not just a money grab and their kids actually improve.

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Anonymous #350697 09/24/21 07:32 AM
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S2S will be mediocre for years. you kind of need a superteam to make a splash. they had that on the boys side and it attracted a lot of kids. Girls.....let's hope that its not just a money grab and their kids actually improve.

How many boys clubs have been able to build a top notch girls program that got girls recruited into top schools? Express? FLG? 91? Girls teams are a total money grab for these clubs, hs coach or not.

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Anonymous #350699 09/24/21 07:35 AM
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

Volume does not equal quality. You have to look at the level of the play and what kind of girls they’re drawing in. I know a large number of them never played club or lax for that matter. That doesn’t mean it’s not a valuable opp for those girls. But it won’t be a legit club for a while, if it gets there.

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Anonymous #350709 09/24/21 08:51 AM
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.

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Anonymous #350716 09/24/21 09:23 AM
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

Volume does not equal quality. You have to look at the level of the play and what kind of girls they’re drawing in. I know a large number of them never played club or lax for that matter. That doesn’t mean it’s not a valuable opp for those girls. But it won’t be a legit club for a while, if it gets there.

You know the large number of girls never played how? Liberty just took some that have never played before on their A team. So did Empire. What does it say for those established clubs? I think if you can come off a 1st season with a terrible record and still attract girls to a club it says something. The liberty B team is walk on and has been around awhile and still didn’t get a lot of girls to sign up this year. Speaks volumes. My kid doesn’t play for S2S so I guess this season will tell if they improved or not. I think the amount of movement seen this years shows that people aren’t happy and will go elsewhere.

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Anonymous #350723 09/24/21 10:17 AM
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.

Agree but also there a decent amount of delusional parents out there that think the grass is greener, my kid is better than that kid, etc. don’t know who or why people left. I did hear 2 or 3 age groups at liberty that rosters bordering on not enough kids.

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Anonymous #350738 09/24/21 12:35 PM
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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

If the top players left, it’s an indicator that the parents didn’t see the team going anywhere. Parents leave when they know their kids can do better. Not a good sign for Liberty.

Agree but also there a decent amount of delusional parents out there that think the grass is greener, my kid is better than that kid, etc. don’t know who or why people left. I did hear 2 or 3 age groups at liberty that rosters bordering on not enough kids.

The Liberty 2024 team did pick up some very good players. That team will be very strong and perhaps could help the clubs reputation ?

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Anonymous #350743 09/24/21 01:57 PM
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You mean big draw from the prints hoping said coach give their daughter an advantage when they make varsity, most 7th grade girls not know about the varsity coaches yet.

Btw who coaches the 2027 S2S teams?

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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

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Anonymous #350749 09/24/21 03:10 PM
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You mean big draw from the prints hoping said coach give their daughter an advantage when they make varsity, most 7th grade girls not know about the varsity coaches yet.

Btw who coaches the 2027 S2S teams?

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I’ve heard of some of the rumors with YJ and FLG. But what’s this about Liberty? I thought they had most of the Manhasset girls playing for them.

Parents creating an invite only 7v7 team, only the top girls playing all the time. Plenty of bench riders. They also do a lot of “optional” training at an added cost and time commitment. Hard when you play other sports. Strangely the bench riders aren’t the ones who left. They lost a few of their top players and replaced with girls that have never played travel
Lax before. Not big upgrades. Manhasset Varisty coach as well as the North Shore Varsity coach at Shore2Shore will starting pulling Manhasset and North Shore talent that way. Going to get interesting.

S2S is years away from being a legitimate girls club. Their teams are pretty much walk-ons.

I don’t know about years away. Look at what they did with the boys side. It started with 1 team and has exploded to multiple teams in each year. Their original team is starting to commit to very good schools. The 2027 girls team was terrible last year and somehow got enough girls to sign up for 2 teams (walk in or not) the Liberty B team lost a lot of girls and has Avery thin roster right now. S2S also has 2 teams at other ages for the girls. Impressive after 1 year. I am not saying I would join the team but I wouldn’t count them out so fast. Having varsity coaches from high schools is a big draw for some kids.

You seem angry about this. I think many parents are aware of who coaches at their high schools. Some may have older daughters. Doesn’t mean you get an advantage when they get to high school per se but learning from someone who will be your future coach isn’t a bad thing. All the coaches are listed on their Instagram. I think the biggest take away is that S2S staffed up with quality coaches. People that do this for a living. Not just people that played in college. May mean nothing for them but it may work out. Time will tell.

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