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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

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Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!

Off the top of my head I seem to remember Duke losing to BC by 1, ND by 1 and Unc by 1 last year and I think they beat UVA, VaTech and Louisville…

I hope your not the same dope who never heard of Scane or North…

They also lost to UVA, doubled down by UNC, triple dowed by Cuse, double down by NW. Duke is not a top team, please face facts. They did not recruit well this year either, so it's not looking much better. Their two 2022 commits from LI did not even make the UA team. Now who sounds like the dope?

The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!

Correction…. UA team

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—- “Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!” —-

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Oh brother, the above post is complete nonsense, why would you post such BS?

Charlotte North was the # 20 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and was face guarded in her very first college game (as a freshman).

Izzy Scane was the #16 recruit, an Under Armour Senior All American and a US U19 Team Member. Also, Izzy was never a Defender.

To say Duke stinks is just silly, Duke is one of the 20 best programs, if they stink what does that say about the other programs?

Both of the players were obviously well know by the people that know.

Obviously the Duke & Northwestern Coaching staff’s knew who she was.

Pretty sure BC. Coach knew who she was.

I would recommend no posting for you.

Duke gets smoked by other ACC teams, will be no different this year, they are definitely NOT the boys!

Off the top of my head I seem to remember Duke losing to BC by 1, ND by 1 and Unc by 1 last year and I think they beat UVA, VaTech and Louisville…

I hope your not the same dope who never heard of Scane or North…

They also lost to UVA, doubled down by UNC, triple dowed by Cuse, double down by NW. Duke is not a top team, please face facts. They did not recruit well this year either, so it's not looking much better. Their two 2022 commits from LI did not even make the UA team. Now who sounds like the dope?

The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!

Correction…. UA team

It's only a "joke" because you're daughter was cut, lol

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It is very hard to listen to all the odd obsessions and chest pounding on these threads when it comes to choosing schools and putting other people’s choices down. Playing NCAA Women’s lacrosse is a balance of competition and academics, find your daughter’s balance.

The first list is the 2021 Final Coaches Poll Ranking. If Lacrosse is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This is the list made by the coaches of all the teams, probably the best indicator you will find. Most of these teams are common to the top 20, there are a couple missing that sometimes you see in the top 20. There is movement every year, this is how they stacked up last year.

The second list is a 2021 Composite Academic Ranking list (TOP 20, some have no W Lax teams). If Academics is the most important thing to your daughter, stay high on the list, seems pretty simple. This list is a composed from many sources. There are many, many organizations that rank the academics, so depending on what list you look at (Forbes, US News, Fortune, CNBC, Niche etc…) you will find a different ranking. Very standard is the top 7 of the following list, stay at the top of any and all those lists. Again it is a composite ranking, it takes all the most popular lists, compiles all those results into one final list for 2021 (This list is much more stable that the lax rankings year to year).

The point to this post is stop trying to put other peoples college choices down because they don't align with your own, find your own balance.

2021 IWLCA Division I Coaches Poll – June 1, 2021

1 Boston College
2 Syracuse
3 North Carolina
4 Northwestern
5 Stony Brook
6 Notre Dame
7 Florida
8 Duke
9 Loyola Maryland
10 Maryland
11 Virginia
12 James Madison
13 Denver
14 Rutgers
15 Drexel
16 Stanford
17 Johns Hopkins
18 Jacksonville
19 Temple
20 Massachusetts

2021 Top Academic Colleges Composite Ranking
#1 Stanford University
#2 Harvard University
#3 California Institute of Technology - Caltech
#4 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)
#5 University of California, Berkeley
#6 Yale University
#7 Princeton University
#8 University of Chicago
#9 Johns Hopkins University
#10 University of Pennsylvania
#11 University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA)
#12 Columbia University
#13 Cornell University
#14 Duke University
#15 University of Michigan
#16 Northwestern University
#17 New York University
#18 Carnegie Mellon University
#19 University of Washington
#20 University of California, San Diego

Lol, I don't know where you got your academic rankings, but this is the gold standard that came out yesterday. Way off from your rankings.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Does it really matter which list ?? All of the universities on the lists are excellent.

At a quick glance it looks like a total of 16 schools that offer DI Women's Lacrosse made one or both of the lists that means if girls are looking to use lacrosse to help them get into a great academic school maybe 120 players from around the country will have the opportunity.

If the player wants to go to a Top 20 caliber school as well as play for a top 20 caliber lacrosse program your looking at approximately 8 (in a given year) schools approximately 60 players from around the country will have that opportunity.

If the player wants the opportunity to go to a top 10 caliber school and a top 10 caliber lacrosse program there are maybe 4 or 5 schools (in a given year)so you are looking at approximately 30 - 35 players from around the country.

How many Long Island players have a realistic shot at go to play at one of these schools?

The large majority of players will not be going to schools on these lists that is just reality.

Try to find the best fit, there are a lot of great opportunities out there.

Good Luck to All


The only schools that offer top 10 lacrosse and top 10 academics are Northwestern. Oh yea, just one. Close contenders are Princeton, Penn, Duke. Close and looking in are Hopkins, Stanford.

All pretty silly but I will play along.

In the past five "full seasons of play" only 10 teams have finished the season ranked in the Top 20 every year. They are:

Maryland
North Carolina
Boston College
Syracuse
Northwestern
Princeton
Virginia
Stony Brook
Florida
Penn

Based on actual performance, the above are arguably the Top 10 Programs.

2020 was a shortened season with no Tournament so we don't know what would have happened and 2021 was not a "regular season".

Pretty sure Princeton checks all the boxes for being considered Top 10 Academically as well as being one of the Top 10 Women's Lacrosse Programs.

Below are the Final Rankings 2015 - 2019 for Northwestern and Princeton:

Northwestern

2015 - 6
2016 - 12
2017 - 13
2018 - 8
2019 - 4

Average Rank: 8.6

Princeton

2015 - 9
2016 - 15
2017 - 7
2018 - 10
2019 - 6

Average Rank: 9.4

Penn Finished the season in the Top 20 every year but only 1 Top 10 finish.

Stanford finished the season ranked in the Top 20 in 3 of the 5 years with 1 Top 10 finish.

Notre Dame finished in the Top 20 in 4 of the 5 years and finished 2X in the Top 10.

Duke used to be a perennial Top 20 program, many times ending the season in the Top 10 and going to the Final Four but has been inconsistent the past few years.

Johns Hopkins is very competitive, they consistently finish the season in the 15 - 25 range (not top 10) but certainly one of the Top 20 - 25 Programs.

I believe the post that you are responding to said "Top 10 caliber" meaning they have been Top 10 from time to time (not many programs can say that), Princeton certainly is Top 10 academically as well as Lacrosse. Penn, Stanford and Duke have been there, Hopkins is on the bubble for Lacrosse and Notre Dame is pretty darn good with both academics and lacrosse.

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*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

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Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

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Looks like about 30 players have publicly committed with about half (14) to Top 20 Programs and 5 players to Navy and Michigan both of which have done very well recently. I think we will see several more to top programs next week. When the top kids commit, it helps everybody because a lot of schools have to move down their list. Enjoy the ride.

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Anonymous #349775 09/15/21 10:31 AM
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*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

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Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?

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*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

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Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?

Please try to follow along, the post stating UA was a joke due to politics was connected to the thread that stated Scane and North were no names who nobody knew about...

If you are the one who posted I guess you must have been drinking.

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*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

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Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?

There is no we, you are the only one talking about the LI team. Go back and read the posts.

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Anonymous #349784 09/15/21 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

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Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?

There is no we, you are the only one talking about the LI team. Go back and read the posts.

The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.

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*** "The US team selection was a joke!! We know there was politics involved in those!! To bring that up as an example is dopey!" ***
*** "Correction…. UA team" ***

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Not sure that I understand your post quoted above...

Are you saying that Izzy Scane and Charlotte North did not deserve to make the Under Armour All American Team? What is your point? Have you been drinking?

We are talking about the LI UA team here and the two 22s who did not make it! That was politics and a joke. What are you talking about? What does Izzy Scane and Charlotte North have to do with that? Have you been drinking?

There is no we, you are the only one talking about the LI team. Go back and read the posts.

The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.

The reference to UA was with regard to Izzy Scane and Charlotte North’s credentials and being named Under Armour Senior All-Americans. Not sure why you think it had to do with Duke 22 commits.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

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The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Please explain how this discussion went from discussing the two best players in the college game to the class of 2022?

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The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Please explain how this discussion went from discussing the two best players in the college game to the class of 2022?

No one needs to explain, people can talk about or respond to anything they want on any post. You are not the moderator. BTW, this is a 2023 thread , why talk about the two college girls?

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The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Lol, the elevate player was better, and deserved the spot. Hard to swallow I know, but a fact. And the team finally won without the YJ influence. Very telling! Duke has a problem recruiting which is why they will continue to trail in the ACC. Did you notice that none of the top '23 players considered Duke?

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The post was about the two '22 Duke commits that did not make the UA Highlight team. It was not due to politics. They did not play well. I was there. You also know that the UA Highlight team won the tournament so stop with your nonsense.


Right, cause when one of the selected TG players choose to go to American Select instead Dave just replaced her with another Elevate player.. yup who the coach is doesn't matter at all in who makes the team..

and btw , Im sure they still got all that Duke money coming in...how about you?

Lol, the elevate player was better, and deserved the spot. Hard to swallow I know, but a fact. And the team finally won without the YJ influence. Very telling! Duke has a problem recruiting which is why they will continue to trail in the ACC. Did you notice that none of the top '23 players considered Duke?

Nothing annoys me more than when someone writes cause instead of because. It’s one thing to say it when you’re speaking it’s entirely another thing when you actually write it. Come on you’re better than that!

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