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Re: Long Island Pride Lacrosse
Anonymous #34896 07/01/13 07:15 PM
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Recon u13 was asked on Friday to be an emergency fill in for a garden city team that pulled out at the last minute. They didn't know what age group they were put in until after they said ok. They also played with no body checks and told th e oposing coach before the game. Trying to do the best in a bad situation.
BOTC has a great deal of respect for the Recon Lacrosse program both on and off the field.

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Re: Long Island Pride Lacrosse
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Originally Posted by CageSage
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Recon u13 was asked on Friday to be an emergency fill in for a garden city team that pulled out at the last minute. They didn't know what age group they were put in until after they said ok. They also played with no body checks and told th e oposing coach before the game. Trying to do the best in a bad situation.
BOTC has a great deal of respect for the Recon Lacrosse program both on and off the field.


No one is blaming Recon for the snafu in the schedule

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Re: Long Island Pride Lacrosse
Anonymous #34932 07/02/13 12:16 PM
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Anybody know what happend with the Bethpage Vipers JV level . I heard there was a bench clearing brawl and parents were out of control?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Anybody know what happend with the Bethpage Vipers JV level . I heard there was a bench clearing brawl and parents were out of control?


The solo cup crew?

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Re: Long Island Pride Lacrosse
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Yes, there was a brawl and things did get heated with the parents. It is sad cause no matter who "started it" people need to start showing a little class. Unfortunately, it seems like a certain programs name keeps popping up lately and not for the better.

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Re: Long Island Pride Lacrosse
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So what if some grown ups want to have a beverage or two at their kids game, what's the big deal.............another impressive showing by The Vipers.

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Re: Long Island Pride Lacrosse
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I'am from Bethpage and appalled from what I'am hearing. We are not like this. Bethpage is a great neighborhood and close knit community. I apologize on behalf of these people. From what I hear they are a very arrogant group of parents. So I guess that's where the kids get it.

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The other teams and ages seem to do fine with no issues.

Not sure what the story is at the JV level. I know they have a great player who eventually starts getting cheap shots from the D in an effort to slow him down. That much I've seen. And I've heard parents yelling to their kids to "take him out" and "light him up" etc. I have not witnessed brawls or the other things mentioned, but it isnlt hard to imagine that the nonsense starts boiling over.

On the other hand, there are one or two people on here with an axe to grind, and will take every opportunity to invent issues and revisit problems they alone raised. Even to the point Cage had to step in. I guess this is the next installment.

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Cage stepped in due to the fact that there was no way to prove what was in the red solo cups, guess the world will never learn the answer to that one. Nonetheless, there is still no excuse for the behavior exhibited by some in that organization. It is amazing how these issues keep popping up with every team they play. They should sue every tournament director for always scheduling them to play against teams with dirty players and obnoxious parents that are always starting trouble.

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Anonymous #34963 07/03/13 06:19 AM
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The issues with the Vipers are pretty much isolated to the JV team. That is one of the only Viper teams that is entirely made up of Bethpage players. The parents on that team are just as bad as the Express parents.

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Cage stepped in due to the fact that there was no way to prove what was in the red solo cups, guess the world will never learn the answer to that one.


... said the guy who has now ignored that warning twice on this thread.

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Cage stepped in due to the fact that there was no way to prove what was in the red solo cups, guess the world will never learn the answer to that one.

... said the guy who has now ignored that warning twice on this thread.

What remains in this thread is the material AFTER we removed postings that never made it to the board due to unsubstantiated claims. Those posters have been permanently banned from participating in the forums going forward. As stated in the BOTC Board Rules, posting is a privilege, not a right.

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Re: Long Island Pride Lacrosse
Anonymous #34967 07/03/13 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The other teams and ages seem to do fine with no issues.

Not sure what the story is at the JV level. I know they have a great player who eventually starts getting cheap shots from the D in an effort to slow him down. That much I've seen. And I've heard parents yelling to their kids to "take him out" and "light him up" etc. I have not witnessed brawls or the other things mentioned, but it isnlt hard to imagine that the nonsense starts boiling over.

On the other hand, there are one or two people on here with an axe to grind, and will take every opportunity to invent issues and revisit problems they alone raised. Even to the point Cage had to step in. I guess this is the next installment.
BOTC has a call into a representative from the Viper Lacrosse program for commentary on the litany of issues that have been brought up this Spring/Summer season regarding the entire program.

There does not seem to be any denying the fact that there was some type of altercation including players from the Viper JV program.

Our question will be which players have been suspended for the remainder of the season and/or next several games. Further, if the team has an insufficient number of players as a result, will the team withdraw?

BOTC believes that the situation should be treated as seriously as if this were a High School Varsity violation.

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Cage I have played against other aged (not JV) Vipers. They are not like this, just the opposite, very humble and appreciative of players who can play (who play against them).


Not sure what the story is at the JV level. I know they have a great player who eventually starts getting cheap shots from the D in an effort to slow him down. That much I've seen. And I've heard parents yelling to their kids to "take him out" and "light him up" etc. I have not witnessed brawls or the other things mentioned, but it isnlt hard to imagine that the nonsense starts boiling over.

On the other hand, there are one or two people on here with an axe to grind, and will take every opportunity to invent issues and revisit problems they alone raised. Even to the point Cage had to step in. I guess this is the next installment. [/quote]

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Re: Long Island Pride Lacrosse
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Dear Readers : A highly trusted friend of BOTC who is NOT associated with either the Bethpage Vipers or their opponent this weekend happened to be at the field for the Long Island Pride tournament this weekend. We have received the following report regarding the incident at the field. In summary, it was not one of the finer moments for either program.

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You want an eye witness to the altercation at the Pride Tournament? I was there taking pictures of our <<Team Name Deleted>> younger team and walked right into the melee. Helped break it up and calm things down with Joe Baccerella. It was crazy. The Vipers played the Turf Island Oilers. Both very, very good teams. Some real talent on both teams.

From the time I walked up to the game around 11:15 am you could tell it was a rough one. Both teams play very aggressive and hard. In my opinion it was very good lacrosse. When teams play like that emotions run high with young players. <...> Coaches are young on the Vipers but nice guys. Now back to Sunday.

On a face off the Vipers player took a very, very cheap shot at the Oiler face off guy. Flag was thrown by the ref. The Oiler player went nuts and went at the Vipers player. To be honest.....the way he was hit it was almost understandable why he did.....however there is no place for it in the game and two wrongs do not make a right! Once that happened the benches cleared and all [lacrosse] broke out. The refs, Coaches tried to break it up but it was out of control at that point.

That was when the parents ran onto the field.........I heard things in the pile like, "get your hands off my kid" "you don't ever put your hand on a kid" ....and then parents started shoving each other and throwing punches. Down right WRONG and unacceptable!

At this point other level headed people came in and pulled the parents apart and we moved the parents off the field while the teams were separated.

At this point tempers from players and Coaches were high but everyone was calming down. The game was declared OVER with no winner and the two players thrown out of the tournament.

I do not know who the parents were who fought or even care. However they were from both sides. So for anyone to state an opinion it was the Vipers parents needs to look in the mirror. Takes two to Tango.

As a part of the US Lacrosse Chapter I was appalled by the players and more so by the parents. This is not how we "Honor" the game and it has no place in lacrosse.

Felt bad for the Directors of the tournament this had to happen. Everyone needs to relax and HONOR THE GAME! And as for red solo cups....who knows as it was 11:15 in the morning. But as you said we will never know what was in them or who had them.

Just calling it like I witnessed it. That will teach me to tell my wife I'm going down for just one game!

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