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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #349488 09/13/21 10:07 AM
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So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Plenty of marketing behind some of these girls too. Not saying they are not great players! They are. But… let’s see how much they actually get to play at a Syracuse? How many girls on that Syracuse team?

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

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So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Congratulations to ALL the LI girls starting to commit to some awesome colleges. Hoping they all find schools that will be great fits. So many wonderful talented girl lacrosse players from LI! You go GIRLS! Good luck to all of you.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Agree, the recruiting process lets everyone know where players rank in relation to other players. The best programs make offers to who they believe to be the best players. Parents can complain about the Player Rankings, All-Star Teams, lists and everything else but in the we will know where a player stands based upon the caliber of programs that make offers.

Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.

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So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Agree, the recruiting process lets everyone know where players rank in relation to other players. The best programs make offers to who they believe to be the best players. Parents can complain about the Player Rankings, All-Star Teams, lists and everything else but in the we will know where a player stands based upon the caliber of programs that make offers.

Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.

Unless of couse it was your kid LOL!!!!

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So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Plenty of marketing behind some of these girls too. Not saying they are not great players! They are. But… let’s see how much they actually get to play at a Syracuse? How many girls on that Syracuse team?

Just can't help yourself, can you? It never ends with some of you, the jealousy, bitterness and detest always comes through.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #349498 09/13/21 10:57 AM
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So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Plenty of marketing behind some of these girls too. Not saying they are not great players! They are. But… let’s see how much they actually get to play at a Syracuse? How many girls on that Syracuse team?

Just can't help yourself, can you? It never ends with some of you, the jealousy, bitterness and detest always comes through.

Haters will detest. They should post their name so they can hang their head in shame and receive the public ridicule they deserve

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So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Agree, the recruiting process lets everyone know where players rank in relation to other players. The best programs make offers to who they believe to be the best players. Parents can complain about the Player Rankings, All-Star Teams, lists and everything else but in the we will know where a player stands based upon the caliber of programs that make offers.

Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.

Yeah, okay. I guess that's why we see so much parity in DI women's lacrosse. The coaches at the best programs consistently identify and get the best players every year. If they were making a lot of mistakes it wouldn't be the same 10 - 15 programs always finishing the season ranked in the top 10 or 20. The reality is that there is a limited number of legitimate top tier talent and the large majority of that talent ends up at the top programs.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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I was talking about the other high ranked Jesters girl that committed to BC.

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My daughter will be making a visit this weekend, next weekend (2) and the second weekend in October for another. After this first round of top choices we’ll see where she lands. We had not been proactive reaching out to schools because we had no idea where she stacked up. I should say, I had an idea, and her club coach had an idea but you just don’t really know until the offers start coming in. There is a large swath of other schools that we might target if these first ones fall through. These are top 20 programs so I think she has a great shot with lower ranked programs if she doesn’t like these. It’s nice to see my daughter feeling so good about her future college options and even better hearing her on the phone with these coaches talking about the game. I know she’ll be so excited to bring. Her best to the college game.

Same for us! She really wants to see all her top choices before she decides. There will be no decision until early October. The coaches have been very understanding. I suspect that there are many other girls who are in the same boat as ours. Good luck!

Could these two posts by any more obnoxious?? Especially the first one. Totally not jealous - my daughter is older and already playing lacrosse at a top program. I actually came on here to see if there was any new commitment news - specific commitment news - not bragging about where someone was in the process. These parents have some serious self reflection to do. They will have a big wake up call once their daughter is at the college and they are sitting on the bench while all the other equally talented older kids play first. This is also part of the process of being part of a top program (and that’s ok). I would’ve never posted something like this back when my daughter was going through the process when other recruits and their parents could possibly feel that they were struggling w recruiting or “less than”. It can be a super stressful process for many and I just don’t see where posts like this are beneficial at all. Just say that your daughter is doing campus visits and will probably make her choice mid-Oct. I hope for your daughter’s sake the college coaches don’t see what type of parent(s) she has. That can really be a deal breaker. Lots of talented 23 kids to choose from. Player and parent character is usually part of their decision process.

Oh, cut them a little slack... the have been much more obnoxious posts on this site. The parents and the kids who are getting attention are excited and while I agree that you should take others feelings into account I didn't think these posts were too bad. People should try not to offend anyone but people should also try to not be offended. I have seen direct attacks on individual players, the two posts you referenced were nothing like that.

Good luck to all.

Agreed. its only obnoxious if the kids start posting their visits to their social media like many football and basketball players do.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #349505 09/13/21 11:23 AM
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What I've learned so far during this recruiting time:

Camps were a waste of money and time. The camps my daughter went to did not really pan out the way we expected. While other schools that people said "they only recruit from camps" came on hot.

Some schools drag their feet a bit, not sure why. Kind of a turn off when you have other equivalent schools reaching out offering visits, while they just stay "in the loop".

I am surprised that more girls have not committed yet, but it is also refreshing that girls are not jumping at their first offer. This will benefit all, because the girls can see schools and then pick the one that they feel best suit their needs without feeling pressure seeing tons of others committing to the first school that offers.

The experience has been great and I am confident my daughter will find school that checks all the boxes if she is patient with the process.

How is everyone else doing?

Parent of a committed 22 and 24 so no skin in this year's game. One thing I will pass on is that our club recruiting director said that multiple ACC coaches have told her that this is the deepest recruiting class in the past 6 or 7 years. No ultraelite stars at the top, but more outstanding talent than she can remember.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #349506 09/13/21 11:26 AM
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Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

Another person who just pops off with nonsense... I didn't know so I checked...

Below are the Final Rankings from 2019. Each year there are 48 All-Americans, I would say they would be the cream of the crop... to the right of each team is how many All-Americans the team had.

1 - Maryland - 7

2 - Boston College - 4

3 - North Carolina - 4

4 - Northwestern - 3

5 - Syracuse - 1

6 - Princeton - 3

7 - Virginia - 2

8 - Denver - 2

9 - Notre Dame - 3

10 - Loyola - 4

11 - Michigan - 0

12 - Stony Brook - 1

13 - Florida - 4

14 - Penn - 2

15 - James Madison - 1

16 - Navy - 1

17 - Southern California - 1

18 - Georgetown - 1

19 - Colorado - 0

20 - Dartmouth - 1

21 - Duke - 1

22 - Johns Hopkins - 0

23 - Stanford - 0

24 - High Point - 0

25 - Virginia Tech - 0


You may be correct in terms of Stanford not getting many high end recruits but they are a very competitive program that finishes in the Top 20 - 25 most years. I don't think anyone on this site puts The Cardinal up there with MD, BC, UNC etc... but they are certainly one of the Top 20 - 25 programs.

As for Princeton and Penn, they obviously hold their own and are arguably two of the Top 10 programs. Couple of surprises were Florida and Loyola with 4 AA's siting behind a number of teams that outperformed them that year.

Syracuse was a shock with only 1 AA, I guess they were a young team in 2019.

Denver and Michigan appear to be two of the up and coming programs.

Two Programs that each had an All-American but did not finish the season ranked were Hofstra and Towson.

Surprising that Penn State was not Ranked and did not have any All-Americans.

With the exception of Penn State it looks like the usual suspects finished in the Top 15 and had the lions share of All-Americans. The formula seems pretty simple, recruit the best players and you will have a very strong team.

Also remember that Stanford doesn't (can't) make academic exceptions that many other schools can especially in light of recent scandals. So like the Ivies, they are recruiting maybe 20% of top talent.

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Anonymous #349509 09/13/21 11:39 AM
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So much for your prediction about the Jesters girl.

What prediction?

So wonderful when an "average" player commits to Syracuse. Guess the talent evaluators on here know more than the top college coaches in the nation. LOL Beware of Fake News on here from the haters.

Agree, the recruiting process lets everyone know where players rank in relation to other players. The best programs make offers to who they believe to be the best players. Parents can complain about the Player Rankings, All-Star Teams, lists and everything else but in the we will know where a player stands based upon the caliber of programs that make offers.

Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.

Yeah, okay. I guess that's why we see so much parity in DI women's lacrosse. The coaches at the best programs consistently identify and get the best players every year. If they were making a lot of mistakes it wouldn't be the same 10 - 15 programs always finishing the season ranked in the top 10 or 20. The reality is that there is a limited number of legitimate top tier talent and the large majority of that talent ends up at the top programs.

Agree with that. My point is that the coaches miss a lot on the talent that isn't "top tier" - which is quite a large number of coaches and kids. I also think these Top 15 programs cast a wide net and snag some girls that were overrated and wind up not contributing. Look at Stony Brook and Syracuse for two prime examples.

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I think UNC and Maryland recruit a ton of players that have a ton of hype yet never see the field. Perhaps those players would have had a better college experience at a lesser name lacrosse school? Not that you hear them complaining.

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Don't give the college coaches too much credit. They make mistakes every single year. All of them.[/quote]

Yeah, okay. I guess that's why we see so much parity in DI women's lacrosse. The coaches at the best programs consistently identify and get the best players every year. If they were making a lot of mistakes it wouldn't be the same 10 - 15 programs always finishing the season ranked in the top 10 or 20. The reality is that there is a limited number of legitimate top tier talent and the large majority of that talent ends up at the top programs.[/quote]

Agree with that. My point is that the coaches miss a lot on the talent that isn't "top tier" - which is quite a large number of coaches and kids. I also think these Top 15 programs cast a wide net and snag some girls that were overrated and wind up not contributing. Look at Stony Brook and Syracuse for two prime examples.[/quote]

Exactly! Look at Charlotte North, unknown from Texas who left Duke because they stink and don't know how to coach, and explodes under the right guidance. Izzy Scane was recruited as a defenseman from the midwest that nobody ever heard of, and look at her!

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I think UNC and Maryland recruit a ton of players that have a ton of hype yet never see the field. Perhaps those players would have had a better college experience at a lesser name lacrosse school? Not that you hear them complaining.

Here we go again, what would make you post something so inaccurate?

UNC and MD do not recruit “a ton” of players. They go after a very small group of players and they bring in on average about 8 freshmen per year.

They do not recruit or offer spots or scholarship $$ based on “hype” the do it based off of what the coaches have watched with their own eyes, pretty sure they know what they like when they see it.

Most programs play between 15 -18 players in their competitive games, it doesn’t matter if it’s Marist or Maryland, Cornell or Carolina, not every player plays.

Also, keep in mind that not every recruit at a particular school is equal… the #1 recruit at Maryland is going to be better than the # 8 recruit at Maryland.

Just keep trying to make yourself feel better by trying to knock others.

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