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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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[quote=Anonymous]Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

** "Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there."**

The jealousy never ends.... too many people with jealousy, bitterness and envy.... Tearing down players, programs, decisions in an effort to elevate your daughter, her program or her decision never works, it always makes you look small, weak and insecure.

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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands!

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http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands!
Nope, don't even know her. Just curious why so many got worked up by the statement? Interesting IMO. Honestly, I think it goes to show that "the best" may not actually be the best, and that there are plenty of girls out there that don't get the acknowledgement that are in fact "the best" - they just weren't "marketed" like some of these girls.

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[quote=Anonymous]Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

** "Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there."**

The jealousy never ends.... too many people with jealousy, bitterness and envy.... Tearing down players, programs, decisions in an effort to elevate your daughter, her program or her decision never works, it always makes you look small, weak and insecure.

Lol, Stanford dad. Nobody is tearing down the school. It’s the right choice for some. Also, nobody transfers out schools like Stanford, even if it’s not everything they thought it would be. There is life beyond lacrosse. Stop being so mad that top recruits aren’t choosing that school and be happy that your daughter is getting a great education. This is a lacrosse forum, not a “best school” forum. The lacrosse experience is a very real consideration for the very top players. That’s why they go to UNC, MD, and BC. They have better lacrosse programs while providing an excellent education. Seems like it’s you tearing down those schools.

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Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

Older sister at Stanford is literally cream of the crop. Best attack in the 2020 class (in spite of ILWomen having her as #3 attack, which is still elite) according to my daughter who has played with or against most of the top 50 girls at this point. Being on the west coast does make snagging the top players more challenging, but it is crazy to say they only get decent players. And no, I’m not a relative or Stanford parent.

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http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands!
Nope, don't even know her. Just curious why so many got worked up by the statement? Interesting IMO. Honestly, I think it goes to show that "the best" may not actually be the best, and that there are plenty of girls out there that don't get the acknowledgement that are in fact "the best" - they just weren't "marketed" like some of these girls.

Ok there's another girl on that team with super-marketing mom too. Go home and play there. The girls will be much happier, plus its bad for their mental health just flying back and forth all of the time.

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Anonymous #349035 09/08/21 10:33 AM
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http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

I think because a claim was made that was pretty bizarre. Talk to me when the actual rankings come out. Until then, go away

The only rankings that actually matter are out... and they are starting to be made public. The best players are being offered spots by the top programs. The best players will receive multiple offers from the best (Top 5 /10/15 programs). The best programs are fighting for the best players. It is very simple, if a player is not being offered by the top programs, the player is not a top recruit. Receiving an email, phone call or an invitation to visit a top program is not the same thing as receiving an offer.

Reading some of the comments posted makes it very obvious that there are many first timers and or parents who who have no clue as to how the recruiting process works for the top recruits. There are maybe 40 - 50 legit "top" recruits out there and the best programs are always in the mix trying to get them. No single team will get all of the players at the top of their list. This is not a random process, the coaches have their priorities and they have the players ranked and they know how much scholarship $$ they will allocate to players based on where the player ranks on their list (they are also trying to figure out merit $$ and or need based $$ so they have an idea of the net cost for these players). News Flash... The number 1 recruit at a particular program gets more scholarship $$ then the number 8 recruit. In some cases you will see a player commit to a top program (before higher ranked players on the coaches list) if that player is not asking for a lot of $$$. You never know the full story....

We are currently in the first round of recruiting for the top programs and for the top recruits. Yes, I know that all programs are recruiting but the best players do not really consider all programs. The top 10 - 20 or so programs are diverse in many ways and the top players usually find a home at one of those programs. This is not intended to knock any program but it is rare to see a player receive offers from say Northwestern, Boston College, North Carolina, Duke, Princeton Virginia, Penn etc... and then choose to go to a non traditional Top 10 - 20 program like Uconn, Delaware, Brown, Columbia, Boston University etc...(all of which a solid programs and schools)... it can happen but it is the exception not the rule.

This nonsense about which player is #1 is a joke, if a player is ranked in the Top 40 and is being offered a spot by top 10 caliber programs in the early rounds that player is legit.

After the top players are all off the board, we will hear parents trying to justify their daughters decision to go to a school that is not traditionally a Top 10 - 15 program. Some parents will try to bash or diminish schools or programs all the while trying to pump up their daughter, her decision and her school/program.

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Top recruit from grizzlies committed UNC

Was most likely between UNC and Stanford since she has sisters at both. Heard the sister does not love Stanford. Probably factored into the decision. You go to California for lax, and you disappear. UNC is a special place. Great choice!

Actually, it was the other way around, was surprised a bit by UNC selection. Sister at Stanford redshirted as a freshman last year and will have a big 2022 season. If she did not like Stanford, than why no transfer portal? Some of us know the facts but you keep trying to tear down everything Stanford lax. That being said, cannot go wrong with UNC and congrats to her.

Even as a great athlete and at a Great school but surrounded by people operating on another level and it must get pretty lonely. you never transfer out of some of the schools it just isn't accepted. Hopkins is probably the same. You can get in to play but your circle is small there.

True. Stanford never had a legit chance at her. The cream of the crop athletes do not go there. It’s more for girls that are decent players but looking for super elite academics. The same type of player that commits to Princeton or Penn.

That could be the single densest post that I have seen on here.

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Anonymous #349051 09/08/21 11:41 AM
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http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

I think because a claim was made that was pretty bizarre. Talk to me when the actual rankings come out. Until then, go away

The only rankings that actually matter are out... and they are starting to be made public. The best players are being offered spots by the top programs. The best players will receive multiple offers from the best (Top 5 /10/15 programs). The best programs are fighting for the best players. It is very simple, if a player is not being offered by the top programs, the player is not a top recruit. Receiving an email, phone call or an invitation to visit a top program is not the same thing as receiving an offer.

Reading some of the comments posted makes it very obvious that there are many first timers and or parents who who have no clue as to how the recruiting process works for the top recruits. There are maybe 40 - 50 legit "top" recruits out there and the best programs are always in the mix trying to get them. No single team will get all of the players at the top of their list. This is not a random process, the coaches have their priorities and they have the players ranked and they know how much scholarship $$ they will allocate to players based on where the player ranks on their list (they are also trying to figure out merit $$ and or need based $$ so they have an idea of the net cost for these players). News Flash... The number 1 recruit at a particular program gets more scholarship $$ then the number 8 recruit. In some cases you will see a player commit to a top program (before higher ranked players on the coaches list) if that player is not asking for a lot of $$$. You never know the full story....

We are currently in the first round of recruiting for the top programs and for the top recruits. Yes, I know that all programs are recruiting but the best players do not really consider all programs. The top 10 - 20 or so programs are diverse in many ways and the top players usually find a home at one of those programs. This is not intended to knock any program but it is rare to see a player receive offers from say Northwestern, Boston College, North Carolina, Duke, Princeton Virginia, Penn etc... and then choose to go to a non traditional Top 10 - 20 program like Uconn, Delaware, Brown, Columbia, Boston University etc...(all of which a solid programs and schools)... it can happen but it is the exception not the rule.

This nonsense about which player is #1 is a joke, if a player is ranked in the Top 40 and is being offered a spot by top 10 caliber programs in the early rounds that player is legit.

After the top players are all off the board, we will hear parents trying to justify their daughters decision to go to a school that is not traditionally a Top 10 - 15 program. Some parents will try to bash or diminish schools or programs all the while trying to pump up their daughter, her decision and her school/program.

Well said n informative
Thanks

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http://lacrossemagazine.com/2023-girls/
Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

She hasn’t done much all summer and disappeared in many games this summer including Elite 8. Please stop

And my daughter helped that happen in one of the games - shut that publicity machine down- clap clap
This hit a nerve with alot of people? Why's that?

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands!
Nope, don't even know her. Just curious why so many got worked up by the statement? Interesting IMO. Honestly, I think it goes to show that "the best" may not actually be the best, and that there are plenty of girls out there that don't get the acknowledgement that are in fact "the best" - they just weren't "marketed" like some of these girls.

Um…how about the girls that weren’t marketed don’t want to be marketed because they are humble and dignified and it comes off as obnoxious, greedy and desperate when you literally pay to have OEM come out and create groovy highlight videos for you? Talk about feeling exposed. (extreme run on sentence I know)

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Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class

Lol, there a few very good players on that list mixed with very average players. Most of the better players are not on that list. smh?

I have a lot of questions about this list and it’s originator. LacrosseMagazine doesn’t seem very legit, I feel like it’s complied by a kid in some basement.

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Sorry, not sure why you are offended that a Skywalkers is 2nd in the 2023 class[/quote]

Eh...you're probably her mom trolling for attention and accolades ... we cant wait to see where she lands![/quote]
Nope, don't even know her. Just curious why so many got worked up by the statement? Interesting IMO. Honestly, I think it goes to show that "the best" may not actually be the best, and that there are plenty of girls out there that don't get the acknowledgement that are in fact "the best" - they just weren't "marketed" like some of these girls.[/quote]

Ok there's another girl on that team with super-marketing mom too. Go home and play there. The girls will be much happier, plus its bad for their mental health just flying back and forth all of the time.[/quote]

Just curious - what is the acceptable amount of marketing according to the self righteous on this page? If your kid is from a non-traditional lacrosse region/not flying across the country to play with a well known program, how do you ensure your kid gets seen? I just listened to the IWLCA webinar on the recruiting process and the college coaches all said that they will miss players - good players - because they can't be at every tournament, etc. Talented kids will be missed unless they market themselves.

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To talk from experience going on right now with my 2023, she has been reached out to by roughly 50% of the top ranked div 1 teams. We have just started the process of working on dates to go visit some of these schools. It isn't a quick process and will take a few weeks. We have not been pressured at all to make any decisions. Right now the coaches are really just working on getting visits scheduled and this scheduling will take a few weeks.

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To talk from experience going on right now with my 2023, she has been reached out to by roughly 50% of the top ranked div 1 teams. We have just started the process of working on dates to go visit some of these schools. It isn't a quick process and will take a few weeks. We have not been pressured at all to make any decisions. Right now the coaches are really just working on getting visits scheduled and this scheduling will take a few weeks.

How many prospect camps did your daughter do? Do you feel they were important to do? Sounds like she got some great attention from D1 schools! Do you think it was from showcase tournaments or prospect camps? Congratulations to your daughter and good luck! . TIA

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