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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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Clearly there is jealousy in these posts…a 23 got into Yale, that’s awesome! How about not trying to stomp on it to make yourself feel better. People are way too focused on the lax aspect of it & going to the “best” lax school.


Just out of curiosity. How does schools like Yale Princeton Havard UPenn etc do with financial packages. I know they are need based but how do they make it affordable for recruits?

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Clearly there is jealousy in these posts…a 23 got into Yale, that’s awesome! How about not trying to stomp on it to make yourself feel better. People are way too focused on the lax aspect of it & going to the “best” lax school.

Bingo! There are always the jealous parents who try to elevate their kids status/situation by trying to tear down or diminish the status/situation of others. It not just done with kids that commit to better academic schools, it’s done to kids who commit to top lacrosse schools as well. There are a lot of delusional parents out there and when they realize that the college coaches rank other players higher than their daughter they go on the attack and spout their nonsense and make excuses. The parents will then try to justify and explain why their daughters situation is “the best” I.e.
She didn’t go to Maryland because she wanted to focus on academics … she didn’t go to Princeton because Princeton took a girl who’s father was connecting or her club coach pushed another player…
Bla bla bla…. After you have been through the process multiple times you here the same nonsense over and over…

The reality is that there will be maybe 10 - 12 players from Long Island who truly get to choose whatever school they want. Maybe another 10 who are at the same level athletically but maybe do not have the grades for the top academic schools.

So, when you see players committing to programs that are not traditionally Top 10-20 programs it is usually because the offers were not there from the top programs.

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Just wish the girls well and move on. The lacrosse world will be so much better off after the 23 parents are off the sidelines and off this site. Disproportionate amounts of you folks live through your kids. Get a life.

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Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

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Clearly there is jealousy in these posts…a 23 got into Yale, that’s awesome! How about not trying to stomp on it to make yourself feel better. People are way too focused on the lax aspect of it & going to the “best” lax school.


Just out of curiosity. How does schools like Yale Princeton Havard UPenn etc do with financial packages. I know they are need based but how do they make it affordable for recruits?

Many factors involved… go to each schools website and plug you information into their financial aid calculator, they are fairly accurate from what I have seen.

They do make it affordable even if you have decent income (having multiple kids in college) really helps… wealthy individuals and high income earners will likely get little or no help.

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Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

It all comes down to recruiting, the best programs get the best recruits. There is not an endless supply of players who are considered a "top recruit" and an even smaller number of "top recruits" with the academic credentials required to get accepted at Yale, Harvard and Columbia. There seem to be a lot of parents who do not understand the fact that the best programs get the large majority of the best players and if a player is not being offered a spot by the top programs then that player is most likely not a top player. The coaches at the best programs do not get it wrong very often, if they did they would not consistently be a top program. I am not trying to be a donk, it's just the way it is. It is very difficult to compete with the best programs if you do not bring in top tier talent. Programs like Maryland, North Carolina, Boston College, Northwestern, Syracuse, Princeton, Virginia, Florida, Penn, Stony Brook, Notre Dame, Duke, Penn State, JMU and a few others seem to gobble up the best players every year. When you think about it, that is a pretty diverse list of schools, most of the top players will be able to find a home (good fit) at one of those schools and if a top player wants to go to the West Coast they can choose USC or Stanford both have very competitive lacrosse programs.

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Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

Define "whole package". As for how they do it, well that's pretty simple... Northwestern is an excellent academic institution, with a very rich history / tradition in women's lacrosse, the program is fully funded and has incredible facilities, the coaches have the ability to bring in just about any player they want regardless of the players academics although they are reluctant to bring in players who they believe will struggle academically, NU does not work off of an "Academic Index" the way The Ivy's do and they do not have a "slot" cap like Duke does, Northwestern is not only fully funded for Athletic Scholarships they also have excellent need based aid. Big 10 Athletics, a beautiful campus, nice town (Evansville) and close proximity to Chicago, and a very good coaching staff.

Bottom line, the majority of top recruits want to go to one of the top programs.

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Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

Define "whole package". As for how they do it, well that's pretty simple... Northwestern is an excellent academic institution, with a very rich history / tradition in women's lacrosse, the program is fully funded and has incredible facilities, the coaches have the ability to bring in just about any player they want regardless of the players academics although they are reluctant to bring in players who they believe will struggle academically, NU does not work off of an "Academic Index" the way The Ivy's do and they do not have a "slot" cap like Duke does, Northwestern is not only fully funded for Athletic Scholarships they also have excellent need based aid. Big 10 Athletics, a beautiful campus, nice town (Evansville) and close proximity to Chicago, and a very good coaching staff.

Bottom line, the majority of top recruits want to go to one of the top programs.

I would say that the whole package is top 10 academic, top 5 lacrosse. A school with a legitimate (not long shot) chance at National Championship. Otherwise you sacrifice one or the other. I personally would want my daughter to go the best academic school she could get into that has decent lacrosse, rather than the lower academic school with a strong chance of a championship. But…..the school has to want her!

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Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

Define "whole package". As for how they do it, well that's pretty simple... Northwestern is an excellent academic institution, with a very rich history / tradition in women's lacrosse, the program is fully funded and has incredible facilities, the coaches have the ability to bring in just about any player they want regardless of the players academics although they are reluctant to bring in players who they believe will struggle academically, NU does not work off of an "Academic Index" the way The Ivy's do and they do not have a "slot" cap like Duke does, Northwestern is not only fully funded for Athletic Scholarships they also have excellent need based aid. Big 10 Athletics, a beautiful campus, nice town (Evansville) and close proximity to Chicago, and a very good coaching staff.

Bottom line, the majority of top recruits want to go to one of the top programs.

I would say that the whole package is top 10 academic, top 5 lacrosse. A school with a legitimate (not long shot) chance at National Championship. Otherwise you sacrifice one or the other. I personally would want my daughter to go the best academic school she could get into that has decent lacrosse, rather than the lower academic school with a strong chance of a championship. But…..the school has to want her!

Wow, anything outside the Top 5 is now considered only decent?

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Yes, the perennial great programs average out a finish in the top 5, obviously it doesn't happen every year. Like a MD, NU, SU, UNC, BC. Many others just outside.

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Stop trying to diminish it as though Yale could be greatly improved. The girl got into yale, one of the top schools in the world, she’ll be set for life, and she’ll be able to play lacrosse too, that’s amazing, good for her! Best of luck. Parents need to stop worrying about the lacrosse team, and start realizing the academics, that’s all that really matters. No one cares if you win a national championship, however every job you apply for Will care if you graduated from Yale. This site is so toxic and ridiculous…

Mostly agree, but you can actually have all of that and a good lacrosse team if you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford (too far) or NW (far, but a real shot at a championship). The other schools that have chances at championships are definitely not even close academically. It’s a shame that Yale, Harvard and Columbia can’t get their lax teams straightened out!

“If you choose Penn, Princeton or Stanford or Northwestern “ …. Pretty sure those programs have to choose the player. Relatively very few players receive offers from the schools that you mentioned, it’s not as simple as “choosing “ …. The school has to offer you a spot.

As far as Yale, Harvard and Columbia getting their lax teams “straightened out” it will not happen anytime soon. There is not enough talent to go around, that is why we see the same 10 - 15 teams always at the top. It’s not just the three schools that you mentioned, a lot of very good schools have a hard time bringing in top tier talent.

Congratulations to the young woman and her parents and best of luck to all who are going through the process. Be thankful for all of the opportunities that this sport provides.

Yes, all valid points. However Penn and Princeton have strong lax and top academics, Yale, Harvard and Columbia should be able to also. I guess it is harder than it seems. NW is really the only top 10 school that has the whole package, despite not being in a traditional east coast setting. Wonder how they do it?

Define "whole package". As for how they do it, well that's pretty simple... Northwestern is an excellent academic institution, with a very rich history / tradition in women's lacrosse, the program is fully funded and has incredible facilities, the coaches have the ability to bring in just about any player they want regardless of the players academics although they are reluctant to bring in players who they believe will struggle academically, NU does not work off of an "Academic Index" the way The Ivy's do and they do not have a "slot" cap like Duke does, Northwestern is not only fully funded for Athletic Scholarships they also have excellent need based aid. Big 10 Athletics, a beautiful campus, nice town (Evansville) and close proximity to Chicago, and a very good coaching staff.

Bottom line, the majority of top recruits want to go to one of the top programs.

I would say that the whole package is top 10 academic, top 5 lacrosse. A school with a legitimate (not long shot) chance at National Championship. Otherwise you sacrifice one or the other. I personally would want my daughter to go the best academic school she could get into that has decent lacrosse, rather than the lower academic school with a strong chance of a championship. But…..the school has to want her!
Interesting that you say that you want your daughter to go to the best academic school yet you seem to prioritize lacrosse when talking about The Whole package…. Top 5 lacrosse but Top 10 academic… ;-)

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Bottom line—most of these young women will not have a lacrosse career. They love to play and playing in college will be the last hurrah for the majority, so choosing a top academic school is what sets them up for their future. Lacrosse or whatever sport is what sets them apart in a pool full of 4.0+ GPAs, a full load of AP and Honors courses and strong test scores. So committing to an Ivy (really committing to the application process) is amazing.

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Interesting that you say that you want your daughter to go to the best academic school yet you seem to prioritize lacrosse when talking about The Whole package…. Top 5 lacrosse but Top 10 academic… ;-)

There is only one school that meets that criteria. It's Northwestern. But they're not interested in my daughter. So I would now lean towards more of a strong academic vs lacrosse. I also am not interested in traveling lacrosse the country to watch games, although we had interest there. Some other good options for us. It's all about priorities and options. Good luck!

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It is myopic, only if you are self-centered and untrustworthy. Perhaps you don't understand because you live your entire life in this manner. Is this comprehensible to you now, or should I explain it otherwise?

Fool. Get over yourself and your self righteous nonsense.

Watching Notre Dame Vs Florida State football, ND Quarter Back originally verbally committed to Notre Dame to play lacrosse , he then switched to go play football at Wisconsin, he lost his starting Job when he was injured, he transferred to Notre Dame and is The ND Starting QB.

Yes, he definitely should have honored his original commitment. Give me a break.

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Top guns northwestern commit?

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