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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #347092 08/24/21 12:12 PM
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How is Express North at 2026. Kind of confusing given the number of teams they have and just trying to get an idea of the club.
Can their top team compete with the top 10-20 teams in the country or are they more on par with second tier clubs.

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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As noted previously 5 out of the ten top 2022 players were born after Sept 1, 2003 which is the cutoff off for the WSYL and US lacrosse and for the majority of states including NE, Maryland, NJ, PA etc. clearly these 5 are not holdbacks. The only 2004 player is a January bday so not much difference from Sept-December 2003 players. The holdbacks dominating in 7th/8th grade will be left behind in HS

Age only matters at WSYL. Graduation year matters in the majority of states where lacrosse is played. A month and a day can be from any year when a child is held back a grade(s) to play lacrosse against smaller younger kids in the same graduation year.

Then congrats to top three ranked teams in the nation as they are all on age and they were the top World Series finish, Express, Tigers, Sweetlax. And Towermen also a great rank and finish and they are on age. Blackops also very good.Teams without holdbacks can win if coached and trained the right way like these teams.

holdbacks everywhere this year.

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347111 08/24/21 01:18 PM
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How is Express North at 2026. Kind of confusing given the number of teams they have and just trying to get an idea of the club.
Can their top team compete with the top 10-20 teams in the country or are they more on par with second tier clubs.
#9 https://www.instagram.com/p/CS9w1lrLNHf/?utm_medium=copy_link

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347150 08/24/21 04:22 PM
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How is Express North at 2026. Kind of confusing given the number of teams they have and just trying to get an idea of the club.
Can their top team compete with the top 10-20 teams in the country or are they more on par with second tier clubs.
#9 https://www.instagram.com/p/CS9w1lrLNHf/?utm_medium=copy_link

This past summer - the top team AA - too many kids, too many guest players. Very solid core of players lead by 1 outstanding player.

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347158 08/24/21 05:03 PM
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Also the use of 2025 express north players and 2025 other clubs players on the 2026 team. They cooked the books, and not just a little. A shame, because there are a couple of kids with real talent over there

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
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Also the use of 2025 express north players and 2025 other clubs players on the 2026 team. They cooked the books, and not just a little. A shame, because there are a couple of kids with real talent over there

They cheated?

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Also the use of 2025 express north players and 2025 other clubs players on the 2026 team. They cooked the books, and not just a little. A shame, because there are a couple of kids with real talent over there

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347219 08/24/21 11:07 PM
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As noted previously 5 out of the ten top 2022 players were born after Sept 1, 2003 which is the cutoff off for the WSYL and US lacrosse and for the majority of states including NE, Maryland, NJ, PA etc. clearly these 5 are not holdbacks. The only 2004 player is a January bday so not much difference from Sept-December 2003 players. The holdbacks dominating in 7th/8th grade will be left behind in HS

Age only matters at WSYL. Graduation year matters in the majority of states where lacrosse is played. A month and a day can be from any year when a child is held back a grade(s) to play lacrosse against smaller younger kids in the same graduation year.

Then congrats to top three ranked teams in the nation as they are all on age and they were the top World Series finish, Express, Tigers, Sweetlax. And Towermen also a great rank and finish and they are on age. Blackops also very good.Teams without holdbacks can win if coached and trained the right way like these teams.

holdbacks everywhere this year.

Do not be jealous of the teams above.

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347238 08/25/21 07:54 AM
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As noted previously 5 out of the ten top 2022 players were born after Sept 1, 2003 which is the cutoff off for the WSYL and US lacrosse and for the majority of states including NE, Maryland, NJ, PA etc. clearly these 5 are not holdbacks. The only 2004 player is a January bday so not much difference from Sept-December 2003 players. The holdbacks dominating in 7th/8th grade will be left behind in HS

Age only matters at WSYL. Graduation year matters in the majority of states where lacrosse is played. A month and a day can be from any year when a child is held back a grade(s) to play lacrosse against smaller younger kids in the same graduation year.

Then congrats to top three ranked teams in the nation as they are all on age and they were the top World Series finish, Express, Tigers, Sweetlax. And Towermen also a great rank and finish and they are on age. Blackops also very good.Teams without holdbacks can win if coached and trained the right way like these teams.

holdbacks everywhere this year.

Do not be jealous of the teams above.

Dont worry

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347250 08/25/21 08:35 AM
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Also the use of 2025 express north players and 2025 other clubs players on the 2026 team. They cooked the books, and not just a little. A shame, because there are a couple of kids with real talent over there

They cheated?

Yes

Isn't the 2026 team coached by the Darien High School coach? He wins the Conn state championship every year. He is really cheating to win middle school summer games? Seems unlikely.

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347322 08/25/21 02:16 PM
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Also the use of 2025 express north players and 2025 other clubs players on the 2026 team. They cooked the books, and not just a little. A shame, because there are a couple of kids with real talent over there

They cheated?

Yes

Isn't the 2026 team coached by the Darien High School coach? He wins the Conn state championship every year. He is really cheating to win middle school summer games? Seems unlikely.

No idea who the coach is. But there were older kids playing for the 2026s at NLF. 99, 15, 20

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
TheBackOfTheCage #347394 08/25/21 10:39 PM
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There was a kid on that team with a beard at NLF. Kids who never played for express north 2026 started showing up. Saw them at NAL in June and different team at NLF. At NAL lost to hawks, BBL, igloo finishing winless in pool play. Barely beat a bad VLC in consolation. I saw that game. I see them again at NLF and now smoking everyone. Don’t know the coach and maybe the HS kids were missing from NAL. Team was also dirty. Lots of late hits and head hunting. Parents were cheering for that stuff. Coach knows what kind of product he put on field

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347454 08/26/21 11:03 AM
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New top 10 rankings considering new adds, including holdback additions, and summer scores, Sweetlax, Express, Tigers, Towermen, Blackops, Hawks, Stealth, LXC, Madlax, 91 LI

Seems fair.

Missing 3d NE Red in the top ten

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347456 08/26/21 11:11 AM
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The kids on the team know, the parents on the team know, opposing coaches know, opposing kids know, the tournament organizers know. There was an attempt to just sweep it under the rug, to save the reputations of the club and tournament organizers. But it was just too obvious and too many people know too much. The coach has sacrificed any semblance of reputation for a 7th grade lacrosse win.....

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Re: Boys 2026-8th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #347482 08/26/21 01:05 PM
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[quote=Anonymous]Also the use of 2025 express north players and 2025 other clubs players on the 2026 team. They cooked the books, and not just a little. A shame, because there are a couple of kids with real talent over there

They cheated?

Yes

Isn't the 2026 team coached by the Darien High School coach? He wins the Conn state championship every year. He is really cheating to win middle school summer games? Seems unlikel

No idea who the coach is. But there were older kids playing for the 2026s at NLF. 99, 15, 20

There is a difference between kids who were required to play with the U14 at the World Series but who are still 26s (like the kids listed above) and kids which are 25 grad years but playing with the 26s. Yes lacrosse should require that kids get "carded' to play for their specific club, limit or eliminate guest players and have age based and not graduation based teams like almost every other youth sport. However, it does not. So can we all stop complaining about holdbacks and talk about the sport and not whine on about holdbacks. It is getting old.

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