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As noted previously 5 out of the ten top 2022 players were born after Sept 1, 2003 which is the cutoff off for the WSYL and US lacrosse and for the majority of states including NE, Maryland, NJ, PA etc. clearly these 5 are not holdbacks. The only 2004 player is a January bday so not much difference from Sept-December 2003 players. The holdbacks dominating in 7th/8th grade will be left behind in HS

So basically they have the same exact coaching staff from the WSYL. That team got smacked around pretty good. At this point you have to accept the team for what it is. It was a dominant team when younger but the daddy ball ruined it. This caused many of their best players to leave. It’s still a good team which will beat all the b teams. In the end they will still get smacked around by top teams in the region.

So basically it’s not the same coaching staff. The 2022 head coach is taking over and they have 7 new kids from the WS team. No 2027’s that got run over. And 4/5 kids left/got cut. So it’s going to be a lot different team. I guess we will know the results when they play games.

What talent did they lose? Wasn't much there to begin with.

The LI Express B team is going to rock. Top ten for sure.

Age only matters at WSYL. Graduation year matters in the majority of states where lacrosse is played. A month and a day can be from any year when a child is held back a grade(s) to play lacrosse against smaller younger kids in the same graduation year.

Especially with all the A team players playing for them .

I think that extra year is a huge advantage in a lot of developmental ways. Not just Lacrosse. It’s elitist though, as not everyone has the chance to have their kid “held back”. Public schools do not hold kids back even if they need to be held back for academics. (Really, the real reason too). So, again the people who can afford private schools take advantage of it.

I was told some states start the kids later for Kindergarten? Like MD at 5 to 6 years old? Or cut off for age is older? Is that true? Could explain some size differences in the grades?

If they have "A players" playing for them are they an A team or are the players B players?

Bullseye 🎯 A few good players left this year on top of the kids that left in the fall. They did cut a few. It's a shame when you think about it but life goes on.

New York has abnormally late cut-off dates for school and is one of the few places in the nation that allows 4 year olds in kindergarten. A child has to be 5 in order to start kindergarten in virtually every other state (I think Connecticut and NJ are the only other states that allow 4 year olds in kindergarten). If a child has a July birthday in these states and the parents hold him back he will be 6 when entering kindergarten. Most states have cut-off dates around Sept. 1.

Then congrats to top three ranked teams in the nation as they are all on age and they were the top World Series finish, Express, Tigers, Sweetlax. And Towermen also a great rank and finish and they are on age. Blackops also very good.Teams without holdbacks can win if coached and trained the right way like these teams.

Were they truly A players then?

Well it is my understanding or at least I was told that CoachC’s team is not an A team but a Double A team. The team below them is referred to as the B team. Some of the kids on the Double A are moving down to the B team, while some of the kids on the B team are moving to the C team. Coach W will only be coaching the B team. The C team will have it’s own coach staff this year. Hopefully this holds true and Coach W can get the B team playing good sound fundamental lacrosse.

How has this come to be your understanding? Maybe you should stop with conjecture and just wait to see what actually happens.