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Re: Girls 2023-11th Grade Fall 2021/Summer 2022
Anonymous #345452 08/13/21 02:47 PM
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Fake news. Funny how the one's that pose the most threats get mentioned the most.

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Anonymous #345529 08/14/21 12:39 AM
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How can anyone say that Jesters is a joke? See that's where you show your a Top Gun parent cause your a jealous baby! THEY BEAT YOU! Deal with it! My daughter is a YJ player and every single year that Jester program gets better and better and that goes for every one of their teams so if i had a younger daughter that's probably where i would put her. Definetly NOT Top Gun THATS for sure!

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Anonymous #345532 08/14/21 02:22 AM
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which player is that? Three different players scored in their 6-5 win that sent you home Top Gun parent......... I was watching after we beat M&D again!!!!!

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Jesters are a one player team. All the coaches are there to watch the former TG girl everyone else is just an afterthought. It’s tough for the other players and parents to accept but it’s a fact.

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Anonymous #345549 08/14/21 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
How can anyone say that Jesters is a joke? See that's where you show your a Top Gun parent cause your a jealous baby! THEY BEAT YOU! Deal with it! My daughter is a YJ player and every single year that Jester program gets better and better and that goes for every one of their teams so if i had a younger daughter that's probably where i would put her. Definetly NOT Top Gun THATS for sure!

Of course you wouldn’t want to play for Top Guns! You never beat them, and your daughter isn’t good enough to make the team. You do realize that the only reason that Jesters won that game was because of the TG girl who recently joined that team. Interesting that your daughter plays fir YJ but if you had a younger daughter she would play for Jesters? Guess you’ve been having a real great relationship with YJ! Lol

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Back to some recruiting questions. If your daughter is an excellent academic student and very good lacrosse player (starts and contributes every game on a top 10 team), how do do help her decide which type of school to go to. I’ve always been of the mindset that you go to the best academic school that wants you. However, Ivies can be extremely pricey if you don’t qualify for aid. On the other hand, other top ten schools like Stanford, Duke, Northwestern and Hopkins can give the athletic money which can be combined with other grants and scholarships. Also, most of the top schools probably wouldn’t compete for a National title, but in the big picture that might not be as important. UNC and BC are top 25 schools that could win a title, but those schools are not in the same league as Princeton and Stanford. Now obviously there needs to be offers, but I’m interested in others thoughts on this.

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What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

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What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They only give need based aid. If your adjusted gross is 175K or less you will get good money. Once you get to 100K your kid basically gets a full ride. Hide that money now! What Ivies do is get your kid into a school they would not be likely to get into without lax. Even with a 4.0 and 1500 SAT

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TG and YJ have 95% of the Elite talent on LI. Jesters now have 2 (legit ex-TG player and ball hog Daddy daughter), Legacy has excellent Goalie and decent middie/attacker.
YJ has 5 middies, 2 attack, goalie, 3 defenders. TG with goalie and 2-3 at each position.
ALL four LI top clubs, including Jesters, have another 4-8 players who are really Very good. On a National scale will be top notch at the teams they play on. Add a couple others and you have 50 LI recruits. 23 top level and about 27 really Very good level LI recruits. Very STONG ISLAND !!!

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TG and YJ have 95% of the Elite talent on LI. Jesters now have 2 (legit ex-TG player and ball hog Daddy daughter), Legacy has excellent Goalie and decent middie/attacker.
YJ has 5 middies, 2 attack, goalie, 3 defenders. TG with goalie and 2-3 at each position.
ALL four LI top clubs, including Jesters, have another 4-8 players who are really Very good. On a National scale will be top notch at the teams they play on. Add a couple others and you have 50 LI recruits. 23 top level and about 27 really Very good level LI recruits. Very STONG ISLAND !!!


Well said! And many of you who are arguing about whose team beat who, have girls who are friends with each other, some of which will be recruited to the same college. In a couple years all of this will be irrelevant, and we will be laughing about this! Good luck to all the awesome young ladies from LI!

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Back to some recruiting questions. If your daughter is an excellent academic student and very good lacrosse player (starts and contributes every game on a top 10 team), how do do help her decide which type of school to go to. I’ve always been of the mindset that you go to the best academic school that wants you. However, Ivies can be extremely pricey if you don’t qualify for aid. On the other hand, other top ten schools like Stanford, Duke, Northwestern and Hopkins can give the athletic money which can be combined with other grants and scholarships. Also, most of the top schools probably wouldn’t compete for a National title, but in the big picture that might not be as important. UNC and BC are top 25 schools that could win a title, but those schools are not in the same league as Princeton and Stanford. Now obviously there needs to be offers, but I’m interested in others thoughts on this.

I have several friends whose kids graduated over the past couple years from college and have started their first jobs in the field of business.

Cornell grad starting salary 103K

Maryland 65K

Virginia 75K

Penn State 76K

Penn 95K

Now, there are many factors that are involved, such as alumni connection, quality of company, location of company (NYC salaries higher) Job responsibilities, etc. And obviously this is a small sample of people I know personally. Bottom line, is that 4 years of college goes fast. Choosing a school that will get you a good paying job with advancement opportunities is so important. Just something to consider. This website gives you a general idea:

https://www.payscale.com/college-sa.../2?orderBy=schoolName&ascending=true

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What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

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What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

Excellent information!!! Thank you! Love when this forum is being used to help each other out! smile Great stuff.

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What kind of offers are Ivy League schools able to give?

They can get your daughter into school if the grades and test scores are good enough (they do not have to be good enough to get in on her own). Remember, all Ivy's are not created equal, some are more difficult to get into, some have better lacrosse programs Ivy's work off of an "academic index" they take into account GPA, Test scores etc... and they come up with a number "an index" The coach has to maintain a certain "Average Index" for the recruiting class. To simplify if the index is 1 - 10, the average index for the class must be lets say 5. The top recruit in the class could get away with an index of 1 as long as another recruit has an index of 10.

The grades/test scores that a player needs to get into an Ivy will depend on where the player falls on the Recruiting Scale... The coaches number one recruit does not need the same grades as the coaches number 8 recruit.

Safe bet.... 90 plus Unweighted GPA with honors and AP classes... 1200 plus SAT, 29-30 ACT.... depending on where the player stands on the coaches list should be okay. Some can get away with less, some will need better, some will need much better.

There is a minimum index number (not sure exact formula or numbers). If the coaches are willing to talk to you and your daughter after seeing transcript there is a good chance that the grades are acceptable. If they are not acceptable they may tell you if your daughter can improve her numbers they can work with her.

Ivy's have excellent Financial Aid, go to each schools website and put your numbers into the financial aid calculator, that will give you an Idea of the "net cost to attend". Not all Ivy's offer the same Aid, but at least in the past some schools would increase the aid for a recruit that they really wanted if that recruit could show that they were being offered more aid at another Ivy. Remember to look at how many kids you will have in college because it plays a big role in the amount of aid if any you will get.

If Ivy coaches are willing to talk to your daughter/you IMHO you should go through the process.

Do not shy away from the Ivy's until you know what it will actually cost to attend.

Make an informed decision.

I agree with much of what you stated. I know many kids that play for an Ivy and are top recruits, including one of my own. A couple things I know. You need at least a 1300 SAT to attend. There may be isolated exceptions, but this is the minimum number they’re looking for at Penn, Yale, Princeton, Harvard. Not sure about the others. You can not generally negotiate the aid. You can try to squeeze out a little extra by submitting a hardship letter, but aid is strictly based on salary/assets/other dependent kids. If you gross more than 200k you are not likely to get very much. The calculator can give you a general idea of what you’ll get, but for us it was off quite a bit from what we actually got. These are schools that cost 80k to attend. Even if you get 50%, 40k is a big number to come up with. That said, lots of great opportunities arise with an Ivy League degree.

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Back to some recruiting questions. If your daughter is an excellent academic student and very good lacrosse player (starts and contributes every game on a top 10 team), how do do help her decide which type of school to go to. I’ve always been of the mindset that you go to the best academic school that wants you. However, Ivies can be extremely pricey if you don’t qualify for aid. On the other hand, other top ten schools like Stanford, Duke, Northwestern and Hopkins can give the athletic money which can be combined with other grants and scholarships. Also, most of the top schools probably wouldn’t compete for a National title, but in the big picture that might not be as important. UNC and BC are top 25 schools that could win a title, but those schools are not in the same league as Princeton and Stanford. Now obviously there needs to be offers, but I’m interested in others thoughts on this.

I have several friends whose kids graduated over the past couple years from college and have started their first jobs in the field of business.

Cornell grad starting salary 103K

Maryland 65K

Virginia 75K

Penn State 76K

Penn 95K

Now, there are many factors that are involved, such as alumni connection, quality of company, location of company (NYC salaries higher) Job responsibilities, etc. And obviously this is a small sample of people I know personally. Bottom line, is that 4 years of college goes fast. Choosing a school that will get you a good paying job with advancement opportunities is so important. Just something to consider. This website gives you a general idea:

https://www.payscale.com/college-sa.../2?orderBy=schoolName&ascending=true

A lot of the schools listed below have Varsity Women's Lacrosse....

While I believe it's great for a kid to go to The Best school it is Best to go to Right (best fit) school.

Every kid is different and every school is different and every program is different. Help your sons and or daughters find the best fit.

-- "Below are some rankings of where some of the Major Players in Investment Banking, Consulting and Big Tech hire from "Target Schools". Just want to point out the opportunities Lacrosse can provide for our children. The rankings are primarily in order of "number undergraduate hires" from each school from 2014 - 2019.

Not knocking or touting any schools, just pointing out that Lacrosse can help get our children into many of the feeder schools that many companies recruit from.

Not every kid knows what career path they want to pursue so choosing a school that can open as many doors as possible is very important. In many cases, it will be the school "name recognition and or prestige" that will help get their foot in the door with an interview (lacrosse connections help as well).

Yes, I know there are a lot of great schools that are not on any of the lists....


Investment Banking: at the top firms (2014 - 2019)

1 - Penn
2 - NYU
3 - Michigan
4 - Harvard
5 - Georgetown
6 - Cornell
7 - Yale
8 - Columbia
9 - Notre Dame
10 - Princeton
11 - U of Chicago
12 - Cal - Berkeley
13 - Texas
14 - Duke
15 - Virginia
16 - Dartmouth
17 - BYU
18 - Vanderbilt
19 - Indiana
20 - Uni Southern Cal
21 - Northwestern
22 - Boston College
23 - Brown
25 - North Carolina
26 - Stanford
27 - UCLA
28 - Middlebury
29 - Penn State
30 - Emory

Consulting: at the top firms (2014 - 2020)

1 - Harvard
2 - Penn
3 - Michigan
4 - Yale
5 - Stanford
6 - Duke
7 - Princeton
8 - MIT
9 - Uni Cal Berkeley
10 - Northwestern
11 - Columbia
12 - Texas
13 - Virginia
14 - Dartmouth
15 - Notre Dame
16 - Vanderbilt
16 - Uni Chicago
18 - Brown
19 - Georgetown
20 - Georgia Tech
21 - Western University
22 - Mc Gill University
23 - Washington Uni St. Louis
24 - Queen's University
25 - BYU
26 - Rice
27 - Uni Southern California
28 - Cornell
29 - North Carolina
30 - Uni Illinois


Big Tech

1 University of California, Berkeley
2 Stanford University
3 Carnegie Mellon University
4 University of Southern California
5 The University of Texas at Austin
6 Georgia Institute of Technology
7 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
8 San Jose State University
9 University of California, San Diego
10 Arizona State University
11 University of Michigan
12 University of California, Los Angeles
13 North Carolina State University
14 California Polytechnic State University - San Luis Obispo
15 Cornell University
16 University of Waterloo (Canada)
17 Texas A&M University
18 University of Washington
19 Purdue University
20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
21 Santa Clara University
22 University of Phoenix
23 University of California, Santa Barbara
24 University of California, Davis
25 Penn State University

Here is some additional food for thought... Link to article at the bottom

These 30 Colleges get students Jobs through great professional partnerships. I think 18 of the these schools have a varsity women's lacrosse program.

1 - Michigan
2 - Penn State
3 - Stanford
4 - Harvard
5 - NYU
6 - Princeton
7 - University of Cal. Berkeley
8 - Penn
9 - MIT
10 - USC (California)
11 - Cornell
12 - Dartmouth
13 - Washington
14 - Texas A&M
15 - Yale
16 - Northeastern
17 - Purdue
18 - Carnegie Mellon University
19 - Georgia Tech
20 - UCLA
21 - Claremont McKenna College
22 - Arizona State
23 - California Institute of Technology
24 - University of Maryland
25 - North Carolina State
26 - University of Cal. San Diego
27 - Florida
28 - University of Cal. Davis
29 - Virginia Tech
30 - Embry Riddle Aeronautical

See link for article

https://www.bestvalueschools.com/colleges-professional-partnerships/ "

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