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This thread will be used for the discussion of news and updates related to the Greene Turtle Lacrosse Club.

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GREENE TURTLE LACROSSE CLUB PHILOSOPHY Since 1989

The people associated with the Greene Turtle Lacrosse Club are all current or past players and/or coaches who are dedicated to "give back" to preserve the integrity of the game. We work hard to create an atmosphere of fun and learning and stive to offer the following:

•Field nationally competitive teams through a selection process of talented players that are willing to learn and improve.

•Provide players an opportunity to develop an advanced understanding of the game based on lacrosse fundamentals, individual skill development, and highly emphasized team concepts.

•Teach the importance of good chartacter on and off the field, of good sportsmanship, and of respect for other players, coaches and officials.

•Encourage players to participate in multiple sports and stress that the "in season" sport takes priority.

•Offer the opportunity to make lifetime friendships with other players from a variety of recreation programs and a variety of schools.

•Have fun and develop a true appreciation for the game of lacrosse.

Our goal is to create a great environment for the players to excel, so we make a strong effort to seek quality players, parents, and coaches to represent the Greene Turtle Lacrosse Club.

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2013 College Commitments

Marc Badger- University of Richmond
John Belz-University of Maryland
Tom Bennett-Furman University
Hill Blaze- Furman University
Bennett Bradley- Army
Keita Christophe- Washington College
Jack D'Angelo Quinnipiac University
Nick Doyle- Ohio State University
Austin Frederick- Villanova University
Brian King- [lacrosse] College
Christian Knight- Cornell University
Michael Knudsen- Kenyon College
Sean Lewns- UMBC
Eric Levin- Swarthmore College
Tyler LLewellyn-Dickinson College
Devin McNamara-Villanova University
Josh Reider- Dickinson College
Andrew Siegel- Stevenson University
Jake Walsh- Bates College

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2014/2015/2016 College Commitments

2014 Team Coach Busse
Matt Burke- University of Vermont
Daniel Flock- University of Vermont
T Moyer- Highpoint University

2015 Team Coach Brandau
Robby Black- University of Notre Dame

2016 Team Coach Whitty
Sam Offutt-University of Virginia

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New Information from the Greene Turtle Lacrosse group as there will be tryouts for the following teams.

2021/2022 Team 4th & 5th graders-Coaches Ryan Smith and Travis Holmes

2020 Team 6th graders- Coach Kevin Benzing

2019 Team 7th graders- Coaches Andy Hilgartner and Joe Meurer

2018 Team 8th graders- Coach Rick Brocato

2017 Team 9th graders- Coaches Ian Shure, Tom Nee and Bryn Holmes

2016 Team- Coach Steve Vaikness

The 2016 Team Coach Whitty and 2015 Team Coach Brandau teams are already established and will not have tryouts.

The 2013-2014 season runs from the fall of 2013 through the summer of 2014. The youth teams (2018 and younger) typically participate in 2 fall tournaments and will play in the spring Howard County league. There will be a mandatory weekend camp in the early summer that will be held locally that will include position training sessions, team practices and scrimmages. Two to three local tournaments and the Stowe, VT tournament will round out the summer.

The high school teams also typically participate in 2 fall tournaments and 2-3 recruiting tournaments in the summer.

Any questions, please contact Andy Hilgartner- ahilgartner @mcdonogh.org

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Greene Turtle Lacrosse Staff for 2013-2014

2021-22 Team - Ryan Smith and Travis Holmes
Ryan Smith has been coaching youth lacrosse for nearly a decade. He currently coaches at Lutherville-Timonium Rec Council and has experience coaching the Clinic, Tyker, Lightning, and [lacrosse] age groups. A 1995 graduate of University of Pennsylvania, Ryan was a midfielder and a face-off specialist during his college career. In addition to lacrosse, Ryan played varsity soccer at Boys’ Latin and was team captain in both sports. Travis Holmes is a teacher at McDonogh School and coaches middle school football, wrestling and lacrosse. While in high school at McDonogh, Coach Holmes was a four year varsity athlete in football, wrestling and lacrosse. He then played midfield at the University of Maryland, graduating in 2007. This will be Coach Holmes third year coaching at Greene Turtle.

2020 Team - Kevin Benzing
Kevin is starting his second year with Green Turtle Lacrosse, and first as a head coach. He is the 8th Grade history teacher at St. Paul's School where he will coach the Defense and Goalies on the varsity lacrosse team. He works with 83 Lacrosse during the off season. He attended Quinnipiac University where he played goalie for four years and received his Masters in Education.

2019 Team - Andy Hilgartner and Joe Meurer
Andy Hilgartner has been the Coaching Director of the Greene Turtle Lacrosse Club since 2008. Within the club, he has coached high school and U13 teams. Coach Hilgartner is the Head Coach at McDonogh School as well as the Senior Class Dean. In 2014, he will be entering his 19th year as a high school lacrosse coach. In 2010, Coach Hilgartner was named the Coach of the Year by the Maryland State Coaches Association. He played college lacrosse at Michigan State University from 1990-93 and is a 1989 graduate of Calvert Hall.
Joe Meurer is a current junior and team captain at Ohio State University. Joe graduated from McDonogh School in 2010, where he received the Kelly Award as the best player in the state of Maryland. Joe became a starter at OSU as a freshman at the long stick midfield position. He has assisted Coach Hilgartner for the past three years at the U13 Level.

2018 Team - Rick Brocato
Rick Brocato has been a Varsity Lacrosse coach for 28 years. Twenty-one years at St. Paul's, 13 as head coach. Won MIAA A Conference championship in 2010.MIAA A Conference finalist in 1996 & 1998. Coach-of-the-Year in 1998 & 2010. Head coach of the South Team in the Under Armour Senior All-America Game in 2011. Played for Towson Sr. High, All-Balltimore County in 1980 & 1981.Played college ball at Washington College.

2017 Team - Ian Shure, Tom Nee, Bryn Holmes
Ian is the founder and owner of Shure Shot LLC, which organizes and offers training opportunities for coaches and youth lacrosse players year-round. Shure Shot LLC sponsors the Athletic Learning Center which offers athletic training space for youth lacrosse programs such as Cradle Monkeys, Lax T.R.U.E., and 83 Lacrosse. Ian was a recognized attackman at the Boys' Latin School of Maryland (1994-1997) and the University of Virginia (1997-2002), earning several achievements and titles including MIAA and NCAA championships. He has coached at the middle & high school, college, and club levels for 10 years. Coach Holmes is a teacher at Gilman School and coaches middle school football, varsity wrestling, and as an assistant on the varsity lacrosse team. Coach Holmes is a 2010 University of Maryland graduate, where he was named to the Honorable Mention All-American team as a midfielder. Like his brothers, Coach Holmes was a four year, three sport varsity athlete in high school.

2016-Vaikness Team - Steve Vaikness
Coach Vaikness is currently an assistant coach with the 2012 National Champion Loyola University Greyhounds, where he works with the face off men. Coach Vaikness attended West Genesee High School and played for the 1985 New [lacrosse] State Championship Team. He went to Loyola and in his four years, helped the Greyhounds advance to three NCAA Tournaments, including the Quarterfinals in 1988 and the NCAA Championship Game in 1990.

2016-Whitty Team - Trey Whitty and Billy Gladding
Coach Whitty is the Athletic Director at St. Mary’s High School. Before that, for 3 years Coach Whitty was the Defensive Coordinator at McDonogh School, where he was named MIAA Assistant Coach of the Year in 2011. Prior to his work with McDonogh, Coach Whitty also served in the same capacity at St. Pauls. He has played professionally in the MLL and played his college lacrosse at the University of Virginia, where he graduated in 2003 as a National Champion and All-American.

2015 Team - Tim Brandau
Coach Brandau is currently an assistant coach for McDonogh's Varsity. Coach for Buggs Combs' Shoot2Score Lacrosse Camps run throughout the Mid-Atlantic which specializes on shooting and stick skills. Formerly a Head Coach for Predator Lacrosse Club U-19 and an assistant coach with the Greene Turtle U-15. Four year starter at attack for Bucknell University from 2006-2010. Top ten scorer in program history and an all Patriot League selection.

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anyone have results from Greene Turtle last weekend? also interested in Hogan Fall brawl - results are not posted

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anyone have results from Greene Turtle last weekend? also interested in Hogan Fall brawl - results are not posted


Both are posted now - they aren't 100% accurate, but at least they are there

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Greene Turtle try outs this weekend...

Aug. 23
3pm - 2017, 18, and 19
4:30pm - 2020, 2021, 2022

Aug. 27
6pm - 2017, 18, and 19
7:30pm - 2020, 2021, 2022

Location Ridley Athletic Complex - Loyola U.


WELCOME TO THE GREENE TURTLE LACROSSE CLUB
2014-2015 TRYOUT REGISTRATION

REGISTRATION WILL CLOSE AT 6AM ON 8/25/14 FOR ALL TEAMS


IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE E-MAIL:
STEVE VAIKNESS at svaikness@thegreeneturtle.com

You will be asked to pay for $40 tryout registration fee
at the end of this form via Mastercard or Visa. If you are having difficulty with this procedure please contact towsonlacrosse@thegreeneturtle.com

Helpful Information:
1. Please input players information correctly. A valid email address on this form is important in order to contact you about weather related changes and team postings.
2. Please register promptly. We limit the number of attendees per age group.
3. Tryout fee is non refundable.
4. We will not accept "walk up" registration. All interested athletes must register online. This website page will be shut down September 12th at 12 noon in order to prepare for evaluations. If you do not have a credit card, please fill out the form online and send a $40 check prior to August 22 to Greene Turtle Lacrosse,408 [lacrosse] Road, Towson MD 21204.
5. Attending both tryouts is not mandatory but the more time you spend in front of the evaluators, the better your chances of obtaining a spot on a team. There will only be one team per age group.

TRYOUTS WILL BE HELD AT LOYOLA UNIVERSITY, RIDLEY FIELD
Take Interstate 83 to exit 9B Cold Spring Lane West. Bear right and then get in the left hand lane. Turn left at Baltimore Northern District Police Station. Keep left,go up the hill to Ridley Field


Go to http://www.turtlelacrosse.com/ for details

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Does anyone know anything about the Green Turtle invitational for November 9th. Is it a showcase? How many college coaches will be there?[u][/u]

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I think u15 is oldest age group. college coaches hopefully won't be there

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What teams will be attending?

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what teams are the turtle fielding this year as a club? anyone know?

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What teams will be attending?


Annapolis Hawks' website shows they are going...

Green Turtle Tournament
November 9, 2014
2023, 2022, 2021 Green, 2021 Black, 2020 Green, 2020 Black, 2019 Green



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Hawks suck

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Hawks suck


Good point.

Excellent contribution to this forum.

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You can see the partcipating teams for the Fall GT on the dropdown menus on this page:

https://leagueathletics.com/UserForm.asp?RegID=66153&org=turtlelacrosse.com

Nice tournaments this program hosts.

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I dont understand the Age groups?? In 13B there are 2020 teams ?? Both Greene Turtle and Hawks have their 2020 and 2021 teams in 13B .. I know it says age group but all these teams are grade base??? Confusing??

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Hawks 2019 playing B.

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Hawks 2019 playing B.
there are two 2019 Hawks teams this year

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[quote=Anonymous]Hawks 2019 playing B.
there are two 2019 Hawks teams this year [

Is the other team playing In the A bracket?

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2020 is 7th graders who fall in the U13 age range. 2021 is 6th graders who also fall in the U13 range

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VLC also put their "U13AA" team in the B bracket - what a joke they are

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The new Grade based format most of the leagues have gone to does not lend itself to the typical 2 year Age Group system that Green Turtle has in place.

It looks like this is where the teams are registering. The B age groups are getting crowded.


U11A - 2022A

U11B – 2022B, 2023A, 2023B

U13A – 2020A

U13B – 2020B, 2021A, 2021B

U15A – 2019A

U15B – 2019B

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So where is the Hawks 2019A team playing at this weekend if they are not playing in the U15A bracket????

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So where is the Hawks 2019A team playing at this weekend if they are not playing in the U15A bracket????



Looks like they are doing the NPYLL Invitational on November 17, 2014 instead of GT.


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Why didnt they just use the tournament age requirements as brackets. Read the age requirements which have nothing to do with age. It should read grade requirements.
Frankly the poster above has it down right. B is getting crowded. As the A of lesser grade ie:2021A, 2023A has nowhere to go but B. The world of grade based teams. You have 3 year age difference when you stick grade based teams in an U11,U13, U15 age based brackets..

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Since it is just a 3-game round-robin, I expect single-year teams will generally be scheduled to play teams of the same graduation year and hopefully stronger (A or AA) teams will generally be scheduled to play comparably skilled teams as well.

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Yikes its panic on the streets because of grade based competition. Its the way of the new world. Get used to it.

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Sounds like your son is one of the select players that gets to play down against younger players.Or are you the coach of some quality older kids playing down.... Good for you , you should be proud to have a son or team that gets to play against younger competition....

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I have been watching travel lacrosse for a while now and I do not see as many blow out/butt kicking games you guys are always talking about. If you are playing for any of the top 15 traval programs talked about on here, your games are close in skill level. Even if you take the worst team in any of these leagues or tournaments that loses every game. I would bet they avg. losing by 4 goals over a year of playing. So what I am saying is all the games are close and they are all getting better by playing, the age thing is just over blown and nutts. Let it go!

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Panic, the sky is falling..... tell your kid to get on the wall.

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You haven't watched too many NPYLL games then

Check out the results from last year - there are MANY games decided by 10+ goals, especially when clubs like Crabs/Hawks/Madlax play clubs like Maryland Extreme/API

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I agree why does everyone bellyache about this grade based advantage to a few kids. This happens over and over. Danny Almonte was robbed by a bunch of babies. If it had been lacrosse Danny would have been a hero to us all. I said the same thing about Lance Armstrong .So what he got an advantage , others could have hired same consultants and got that advantage. A bunch of cry babies. Get over it people. Time to move on.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I have been watching travel lacrosse for a while now and I do not see as many blow out/butt kicking games you guys are always talking about. If you are playing for any of the top 15 traval programs talked about on here, your games are close in skill level. Even if you take the worst team in any of these leagues or tournaments that loses every game. I would bet they avg. losing by 4 goals over a year of playing. So what I am saying is all the games are close and they are all getting better by playing, the age thing is just over blown and nutts. Let it go!


Half the games are blowouts. Are you serious?

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Well that sounds like the bottom three teams need to combine and make a better team. Or get better.

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Well that sounds like the bottom three teams need to combine and make a better team. Or get better.


If you combine two bad clubs, you still get a bad club - examples
1) MD Elite and Lax Factory combining
2) Rockville and Performance

Both are still bad

Plus combining clubs means the directors lose their $$

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So which teams will come out on top for their divisions at the Fall Invitational?

U11A (2022A)
Cannons 2022
Club Blue 2022
Crabs 2022
Hawks 2022
Looneys 2022 Orange
Madlax-Capital
Manhasset 32
Roughriders 2022
Thunder 2022
Valley Select 2022

U11B (2023A, 2022B)
Breakers 2023
Club Blue 2023
Freedom Lax-Blue
Greene Turtle 2022
Hawks 2023
Looneys 2023
Madlax-Capital
Roughriders 2023

U13A (2020A)
Cannons 2020
Club Blue 2020
Hawks 2020-Black
Lax World
Madlax-Capital
Snappers

U13B (2021A, 2020B)
Breakers 2021
Club Blue 2021
Crabs 2021
Freedom Lax-Blue
Freedom Lax-Red
Greene Turtle 2021
Greene Turtle 2020
Hawks 2020-Green
Hawks 2021-Green
Hawks 2021-Black
Laxworld-2020/2021
Madlax-Capital
Manhasset 32-2021
Valley Select 2021
VLC-2020
Zingos

U15A (2019A)
Club Blue 2019
FCA 2019-Blue
Freedom Lax-Blue
Low and Away
Madlax-Capital
MLC 2019
Roughriders
VLC 2019

U15B (2019B)
Freedom Lax-Red
Greene Turtle 2019
Hawks-2019 Green
Lax World
Madlax-Capital
Snappers
Team 302
Zingos

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Since it is just a 3-game round-robin, I expect single-year teams will generally be scheduled to play teams of the same graduation year and hopefully stronger (A or AA) teams will generally be scheduled to play comparably skilled teams as well.


It sounds like it is just a play day where the organizers rank the teams ahead of time and set up the most competitive matches. (No champions).

A true round robin would require too many games.

If they really are ranking the teams ahead of time, a playoff with 2 guaranteed consolation games for 1st round losers would be better.

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They don't crown champions in the fall

last year Crabs 2021 was allowed to play U11 even though half their team was too old


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