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The lack of rescheduling this past weekend in MD was a joke. Half of the '25 teams only got 2 games while the other half got 4. Scheduling certainly could've been altered for Sunday providing each team with 3 games total and then one playoff game. Same amount of total games, just more work for the organizers. Organizers are person if they do not provide a 50% refund to the teams that only got two games but were guaranteed 4. Not a credit, a refund directly to those 15 or so teams that incurred travel, lodging and registration expenses but did not get what was stated. Please advise.

LOL, who on BOTC would you like a response from? Problem is, there's that small print at the bottom of all the waivers teams/players/parents all signed that almost definitely says, "no refunds for cancellations due to weather." stinks for sure, but it's not the first time and it won't be the last.

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The lack of rescheduling this past weekend in MD was a joke. Half of the '25 teams only got 2 games while the other half got 4. Scheduling certainly could've been altered for Sunday providing each team with 3 games total and then one playoff game. Same amount of total games, just more work for the organizers. Organizers are person if they do not provide a 50% refund to the teams that only got two games but were guaranteed 4. Not a credit, a refund directly to those 15 or so teams that incurred travel, lodging and registration expenses but did not get what was stated. Please advise.

LOL, who on BOTC would you like a response from? Problem is, there's that small print at the bottom of all the waivers teams/players/parents all signed that almost definitely says, "no refunds for cancellations due to weather." stinks for sure, but it's not the first time and it won't be the last.

Few years back lax Fest was cancelled NO Games No Refund

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JS will get his girls on AU

AU? Did you mean UA?

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I’ll say it. The UA tryouts we’re pretty disorganized. Before last years waste of time there were 20 local HS, College coaches/players doing the evaluations. You got a mix of local talent from all towns and clubs. Yesterday we had just the club coaches coaching the command/highlight teams, some local club coaches and JS. At least JS actually watched the games, but several games were played with no evaluators on the sidelines? What did they debate during their assessment period? This was not as bad as the American Select or NY regional tryouts but pretty bad. The only thing these event organizers do well is take our money. Great concepts with big name sponsors just run poorly by the revolving door of club directors putting their own stamp on someone else’s “tryout”.

Should be interesting to see what happens with Rosters because so many girls here already were rostered and paid their $600 for the AS event that happens on the same days.

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The lack of rescheduling this past weekend in MD was a joke. Half of the '25 teams only got 2 games while the other half got 4. Scheduling certainly could've been altered for Sunday providing each team with 3 games total and then one playoff game. Same amount of total games, just more work for the organizers. Organizers are person if they do not provide a 50% refund to the teams that only got two games but were guaranteed 4. Not a credit, a refund directly to those 15 or so teams that incurred travel, lodging and registration expenses but did not get what was stated. Please advise.

LOL, who on BOTC would you like a response from? Problem is, there's that small print at the bottom of all the waivers teams/players/parents all signed that almost definitely says, "no refunds for cancellations due to weather." stinks for sure, but it's not the first time and it won't be the last.

Few years back lax Fest was cancelled NO Games No Refund





That didn’t end well for that tournament Sons club team never returned to that tournament again

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Believe AU is the Athletes Unlimited, the new womens league. They have a teams scheduled to play next week also.

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I’ll say it. The UA tryouts we’re pretty disorganized. Before last years waste of time there were 20 local HS, College coaches/players doing the evaluations. You got a mix of local talent from all towns and clubs. Yesterday we had just the club coaches coaching the command/highlight teams, some local club coaches and JS. At least JS actually watched the games, but several games were played with no evaluators on the sidelines? What did they debate during their assessment period? This was not as bad as the American Select or NY regional tryouts but pretty bad. The only thing these event organizers do well is take our money. Great concepts with big name sponsors just run poorly by the revolving door of club directors putting their own stamp on someone else’s “tryout”.

Should be interesting to see what happens with Rosters because so many girls here already were rostered and paid their $600 for the AS event that happens on the same days.

Yes, interesting. So many kids already paid for AS, but tried out for UA and willing lose that money if they make it? Seems a little desperate. If you believe what’s written on here UA was such a joke, yet record number of kids showed up to try out. Seems like UA is still the place to be.

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Think the YJ kids will get bullied from CR to go to the AS event

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I’ll say it. The UA tryouts we’re pretty disorganized. Before last years waste of time there were 20 local HS, College coaches/players doing the evaluations. You got a mix of local talent from all towns and clubs. Yesterday we had just the club coaches coaching the command/highlight teams, some local club coaches and JS. At least JS actually watched the games, but several games were played with no evaluators on the sidelines? What did they debate during their assessment period? This was not as bad as the American Select or NY regional tryouts but pretty bad. The only thing these event organizers do well is take our money. Great concepts with big name sponsors just run poorly by the revolving door of club directors putting their own stamp on someone else’s “tryout”.

Should be interesting to see what happens with Rosters because so many girls here already were rostered and paid their $600 for the AS event that happens on the same days.

Yes, interesting. So many kids already paid for AS, but tried out for UA and willing lose that money if they make it? Seems a little desperate. If you believe what’s written on here UA was such a joke, yet record number of kids showed up to try out. Seems like UA is still the place to be.

Not sure if that is desperate. If my daughter makes UA, we will likely still do AS. It's just another opportunity to see how you stand up o the best competition. I think AS will be a better event, because looking at the rosters, I see many of the top girls from other regions on there.

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Yes I believe the American select will be the new top dog! I don’t know how other regions are running under armor but Long Island lost all credibility last year with bs evaluations/selections.

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Yes I believe the American select will be the new top dog! I don’t know how other regions are running under armor but Long Island lost all credibility last year with bs evaluations/selections.

American Select allowed the Florida Select 2022 team to represent the Florida region at that age group. Not a single other player made the team. American Select has all the same problems as the UA event. Some, like this one, are glaringly worse.

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Another season in the books...time for the cancerous parents to take their baggage elsewhere and TG, Lomo and Janelli shuffle their headaches...

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Yes I believe the American select will be the new top dog! I don’t know how other regions are running under armor but Long Island lost all credibility last year with bs evaluations/selections.

American Select allowed the Florida Select 2022 team to represent the Florida region at that age group. Not a single other player made the team. American Select has all the same problems as the UA event. Some, like this one, are glaringly worse.



Non traditional areas usually have a different set of rules

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Yes I believe the American select will be the new top dog! I don’t know how other regions are running under armor but Long Island lost all credibility last year with bs evaluations/selections.

Lost all credibility and then those same evaluators went and started American select and ran it the same way they did Under Armor last year

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Believe AU is the Athletes Unlimited, the new womens league. They have a teams scheduled to play next week also.

Interesting.

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Anyone know when we will hear the UA results?

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Team Blue is directionless and we will have major changes !!

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Team Blue is directionless and we will have major changes !!

Daddy ball brings down even the best teams. Seems like a YJ thing

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Yes I believe the American select will be the new top dog! I don’t know how other regions are running under armor but Long Island lost all credibility last year with bs evaluations/selections.

Lost all credibility and then those same evaluators went and started American select and ran it the same way they did Under Armor last year




Trying to make people pay immediately was the red FLG for many of us New events trying to get people to pay up very fast not good

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What does that mean?

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Yes I believe the American select will be the new top dog! I don’t know how other regions are running under armor but Long Island lost all credibility last year with bs evaluations/selections.

American Select allowed the Florida Select 2022 team to represent the Florida region at that age group. Not a single other player made the team. American Select has all the same problems as the UA event. Some, like this one, are glaringly worse.



Non traditional areas usually have a different set of rules

Do they play the same sport with uniform rules? The tryouts should be run the same way regardless of the region. UA/Nike should hire a woman’s director of Lax or work with the IWLCA and layout a process to select the best girls from each region and have them play, not rotate a bunch of $$$ motivated biased club directors in to coach it who can’t pick the best girls bc they have to pick their girls to validate their club fees and so they can say they developed her. When a HS all American doesn’t make the call back game…. It Highlights the problem…

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Non traditional areas usually have a different set of rules[/quote]

Do they play the same sport with uniform rules? The tryouts should be run the same way regardless of the region. UA/Nike should hire a woman’s director of Lax or work with the IWLCA and layout a process to select the best girls from each region and have them play, not rotate a bunch of $$$ motivated biased club directors in to coach it who can’t pick the best girls bc they have to pick their girls to validate their club fees and so they can say they developed her. When a HS all American doesn’t make the call back game…. It Highlights the problem…[/quote]

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if long island wants to WIN the event then why not pick the BEST players. how can a legit duke commit who was an AA this year not make callback after being on the team the past 3 years???
but still the talent on UA is much better than AS

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Non traditional areas usually have a different set of rules

Do they play the same sport with uniform rules? The tryouts should be run the same way regardless of the region. UA/Nike should hire a woman’s director of Lax or work with the IWLCA and layout a process to select the best girls from each region and have them play, not rotate a bunch of $$$ motivated biased club directors in to coach it who can’t pick the best girls bc they have to pick their girls to validate their club fees and so they can say they developed her. When a HS all American doesn’t make the call back game…. It Highlights the problem…[/quote]

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if long island wants to WIN the event then why not pick the BEST players. how can a legit duke commit who was an AA this year not make callback after being on the team the past 3 years???
but still the talent on UA is much better than AS[/quote]

Talent is absolutely not better on UA, look at the rosters, many of the better girls went to AS. The Duke commit was hot and cold this season, didn’t play well and did not deserve to advance. You want the tryout to be fair, right?

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We didn’t do AS after being stunk into 91s Warrior AA games a few years back. We decided to wait-and-see.

UA was a bit disorganized at first but I thought got it together pretty quick after the first 20 minutes. We’re not Jesters but the evaluations seemed fair because they didn’t know any of the other girls - and there was a lot of girls. I’m sure some got missed and that’s the shame of a tryout but overall the callback game was loaded with talent. Good luck to all the girls.

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UA invites are out for Command

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UA invites are out for Command

Congrats to the girls that made it

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Non traditional areas usually have a different set of rules

Do they play the same sport with uniform rules? The tryouts should be run the same way regardless of the region. UA/Nike should hire a woman’s director of Lax or work with the IWLCA and layout a process to select the best girls from each region and have them play, not rotate a bunch of $$$ motivated biased club directors in to coach it who can’t pick the best girls bc they have to pick their girls to validate their club fees and so they can say they developed her. When a HS all American doesn’t make the call back game…. It Highlights the problem…

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if long island wants to WIN the event then why not pick the BEST players. how can a legit duke commit who was an AA this year not make callback after being on the team the past 3 years???
but still the talent on UA is much better than AS[/quote]

Talent is absolutely not better on UA, look at the rosters, many of the better girls went to AS. The Duke commit was hot and cold this season, didn’t play well and did not deserve to advance. You want the tryout to be fair, right?[/quote]

The Duke commit led her HS team to an undefeated season and LI championship and was an All American. Like it or not she will likely be the face of the 22 Suffolk Senior class replacing the BBP player who just graduated. The only up and down is the repetitive over exaggerated unnecessary head / shoulder fakes of the player likely to take her spot. Best of luck to those that make it.

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Non traditional areas usually have a different set of rules

Do they play the same sport with uniform rules? The tryouts should be run the same way regardless of the region. UA/Nike should hire a woman’s director of Lax or work with the IWLCA and layout a process to select the best girls from each region and have them play, not rotate a bunch of $$$ motivated biased club directors in to coach it who can’t pick the best girls bc they have to pick their girls to validate their club fees and so they can say they developed her. When a HS all American doesn’t make the call back game…. It Highlights the problem…

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if long island wants to WIN the event then why not pick the BEST players. how can a legit duke commit who was an AA this year not make callback after being on the team the past 3 years???
but still the talent on UA is much better than AS

Talent is absolutely not better on UA, look at the rosters, many of the better girls went to AS. The Duke commit was hot and cold this season, didn’t play well and did not deserve to advance. You want the tryout to be fair, right?[/quote]

The Duke commit led her HS team to an undefeated season and LI championship and was an All American. Like it or not she will likely be the face of the 22 Suffolk Senior class replacing the BBP player who just graduated. The only up and down is the repetitive over exaggerated unnecessary head / shoulder fakes of the player likely to take her spot. Best of luck to those that make it.[/quote]

Wait…a YJ didn’t get pushed through do to her reputation? Guess that’s what happens when CR isn’t pulling strings behind the seen. Don’t agree with her being the “face”. good player, many just as good or better many of whom will be Jrs.

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Non traditional area players sometimes have to travel 3 plus hours just to try out so I’m guessing that is how they can manipulate the rules Not right at all but marylnd and LI are held to different standards

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Non traditional areas usually have a different set of rules

Do they play the same sport with uniform rules? The tryouts should be run the same way regardless of the region. UA/Nike should hire a woman’s director of Lax or work with the IWLCA and layout a process to select the best girls from each region and have them play, not rotate a bunch of $$$ motivated biased club directors in to coach it who can’t pick the best girls bc they have to pick their girls to validate their club fees and so they can say they developed her. When a HS all American doesn’t make the call back game…. It Highlights the problem…

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if long island wants to WIN the event then why not pick the BEST players. how can a legit duke commit who was an AA this year not make callback after being on the team the past 3 years???
but still the talent on UA is much better than AS

Talent is absolutely not better on UA, look at the rosters, many of the better girls went to AS. The Duke commit was hot and cold this season, didn’t play well and did not deserve to advance. You want the tryout to be fair, right?

The Duke commit led her HS team to an undefeated season and LI championship and was an All American. Like it or not she will likely be the face of the 22 Suffolk Senior class replacing the BBP player who just graduated. The only up and down is the repetitive over exaggerated unnecessary head / shoulder fakes of the player likely to take her spot. Best of luck to those that make it.[/quote]

Wait…a YJ didn’t get pushed through do to her reputation? Guess that’s what happens when CR isn’t pulling strings behind the seen. Don’t agree with her being the “face”. good player, many just as good or better many of whom will be Jrs.[/quote]

Selection process is skewed at both. Get rid of the club directors and club coach’s as evaluators. UA/Nike should have a much better evaluation process for their tryouts

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Non traditional areas usually have a different set of rules

Do they play the same sport with uniform rules? The tryouts should be run the same way regardless of the region. UA/Nike should hire a woman’s director of Lax or work with the IWLCA and layout a process to select the best girls from each region and have them play, not rotate a bunch of $$$ motivated biased club directors in to coach it who can’t pick the best girls bc they have to pick their girls to validate their club fees and so they can say they developed her. When a HS all American doesn’t make the call back game…. It Highlights the problem…

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if long island wants to WIN the event then why not pick the BEST players. how can a legit duke commit who was an AA this year not make callback after being on the team the past 3 years???
but still the talent on UA is much better than AS

Talent is absolutely not better on UA, look at the rosters, many of the better girls went to AS. The Duke commit was hot and cold this season, didn’t play well and did not deserve to advance. You want the tryout to be fair, right?[/quote]

The Duke commit led her HS team to an undefeated season and LI championship and was an All American. Like it or not she will likely be the face of the 22 Suffolk Senior class replacing the BBP player who just graduated. The only up and down is the repetitive over exaggerated unnecessary head / shoulder fakes of the player likely to take her spot. Best of luck to those that make it.[/quote]

The entire '22 class at BBP is not worth a mention. That's why they're not mentioned. The talent at BBP now starts with the '23s and that's what you'll hear about next season.

This is the 2025 thread and all the top 2025 talent from BBP was at UA.

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Yes I believe the American select will be the new top dog! I don’t know how other regions are running under armor but Long Island lost all credibility last year with bs evaluations/selections.

American Select allowed the Florida Select 2022 team to represent the Florida region at that age group. Not a single other player made the team. American Select has all the same problems as the UA event. Some, like this one, are glaringly worse.

Almost the same thing happened with the North Carolina 2024 team. Large number of players from the "host club" that is clearly 2nd tier.

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Yes I believe the American select will be the new top dog! I don’t know how other regions are running under armor but Long Island lost all credibility last year with bs evaluations/selections.

American Select allowed the Florida Select 2022 team to represent the Florida region at that age group. Not a single other player made the team. American Select has all the same problems as the UA event. Some, like this one, are glaringly worse.

Almost the same thing happened with the North Carolina 2024 team. Large number of players from the "host club" that is clearly 2nd tier.

This is normal of startup events and why most don't last. If AS is still around in 3 years, and the other regions actually win a few championships to show some legitimacy, it will be worth considering. UA is flawed but when you look at the AS roster it is still just as flawed and for the same reasons. Club affiliations, friends, and family.

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Non traditional area players sometimes have to travel 3 plus hours just to try out so I’m guessing that is how they can manipulate the rules Not right at all but marylnd and LI are held to different standards

Manipulate what rules? You show up- have girls throw and catch, do some drills, play some games and hopefully have “independent” evaluators rate those in attendance and pick a team for the respective region. Drive 10min or 10 hours. Makes no difference. What am I missing

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Harder to get numbers. Isn’t like LI or MD where everyone in that region is playing

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What rules are being manipulating? Defining a region? Asking a player who didn’t make LI or Baltimore to play for the Southwest or another region unable to field a team?

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What happens now with 1/3rd of the UA roster and the AS roster are the same? Which event tanks

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What happens now with 1/3rd of the UA roster and the AS roster are the same? Which event tanks


Great question! I'm in that situation and don't know what to do!! What is the consensus?

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What happens now with 1/3rd of the UA roster and the AS roster are the same? Which event tanks


Great question! I'm in that situation and don't know what to do!! What is the consensus?

No brainer! Real talent at the younger age groups is at AS, just look at the rosters

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UA will fade

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