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Re: Westchester NY Youth Lacrosse
Anonymous #330162 05/14/21 12:56 PM
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Not so sure why the history matters, we're talking about the present. Yankees have a bunch of titles arent even close to best today. Irrelevant.

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I think the overlap/influence of PrimeTime has doomed JJ. PT director has been a JJ HS asst coach. Over the past 7-8 years, lots of JJ kids have filled the PT rosters at the young grade levels (say 3rd - 6th). Then in middle school up to high school, most of those JJ players have gotten cut by PT as other talent rolls in each year (including many repeats) from surrounding towns and sometimes far away. Lots of JJ kids have gotten disillusioned and quit the sport through that process.

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1. Mamo
2. Iona Prep
3. Town
4. Bcliff
5. Bville
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pville
9. Scars
10. Step

Why even put Iona Prep in rankings. They get to pull from all those towns so its not apples to apples. Rank them against the private school competition in the area 1- Wick, 2- St Anthony's 3- Chaminade 4- Iona Prep. 5- RCDS 6-Fairfield Prep 7- Stepinac 8-Kellenberg 9- Fordham 10- does it matter

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Anonymous #330171 05/14/21 03:38 PM
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1. Mamo
2. Iona Prep
3. Town
4. Bcliff
5. Bville
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pville
9. Scars
10. Step

Why even put Iona Prep in rankings. They get to pull from all those towns so its not apples to apples. Rank them against the private school competition in the area 1- Wick, 2- St Anthony's 3- Chaminade 4- Iona Prep. 5- RCDS 6-Fairfield Prep 7- Stepinac 8-Kellenberg 9- Fordham 10- does it matter

Because this is the Westchester lacrosse thread not the Westchester public school lacrosse thread... In a normal year when any of the public HS beat up on Iona, Stepinac, RCDS, Fordham etc... you can bet those victories would be taken into account in determining rankings.

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Re: Westchester NY Youth Lacrosse
Anonymous #330215 05/15/21 08:26 AM
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I think the overlap/influence of PrimeTime has doomed JJ. PT director has been a JJ HS asst coach. Over the past 7-8 years, lots of JJ kids have filled the PT rosters at the young grade levels (say 3rd - 6th). Then in middle school up to high school, most of those JJ players have gotten cut by PT as other talent rolls in each year (including many repeats) from surrounding towns and sometimes far away. Lots of JJ kids have gotten disillusioned and quit the sport through that process.

I disagree. Look, PT is a top nationally ranked club team, JJ would be lucky to have 1 or 2 kids per year in the HS team. If kids get cut , need to get over themselves. You don’t need to be PT level to contribute on the HS team. THE issue is Timmy, not connected to the kids in any way throughout the year, doesn’t do any work out side practice and game day, just shows up and coaches. No investment in kids or program. Cuts anyone he thinks won’t contribute, shouldn’t a good coach develop kids? Coaching philosophy from 1980’s that doesn’t motivate or work in 2021. Yorktown would never allow only 24 kids on a team. He needs to go, let the alum take over. Daniello has done more for the program than anyone at this point, someone like him is connected to the kids, can recruit athletes and build back what Timmy crumbled.

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Anonymous #330222 05/15/21 09:50 AM
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1. Mamo
2. Iona Prep
3. Town
4. Bcliff
5. Bville
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pville
9. Scars
10. Step

Why even put Iona Prep in rankings. They get to pull from all those towns so its not apples to apples. Rank them against the private school competition in the area 1- Wick, 2- St Anthony's 3- Chaminade 4- Iona Prep. 5- RCDS 6-Fairfield Prep 7- Stepinac 8-Kellenberg 9- Fordham 10- does it matter

True. Sick of how polls and rankings, even a random dad post like this, includes private schools with their recruiting. It is not apples to apples. Just keep them separate.

1. Mamo
2. Town
3. Bcliff
4. Bville
5. Scars
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pelham
9. Byram
10. JJ

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Anonymous #330224 05/15/21 09:58 AM
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I went to the Y game and overheard that Y decided not to play Mamo this year, when it was their turn to go down county.

I checked my sources and Y last played Mamo 03/23/2019, at Y and won 9-7.

With all of this info, sure seems Y is avoiding Mamo.

Best non-secret in Section 1- Y ducked Mamo. They were due to play at Mamo and refused. Maybe they can meet after regular season and call it a scrimmage to get ready for playoffs.

Not really sure why Mamo is jocking Y-Town so much. Play your schedule and give it a rest, you have a very nice squad this year. When you catch up to Y-town's sectional and state championship victories then we will talk!

It's like 2-3 people posting YTown was due to play at Mamaroneck this year. I doubt it's Mamaroneck players and dads flooding this board. If so I'd expect way more smack. I'm not in Mamaroneck and I'm rooting for the matchup and have no problem echoing others that Ytown last played them in Ytown. But I have no idea what happened in scheduling this season. Fun to push the story. We need some new rivalry action in our area.

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Anonymous #330227 05/15/21 12:39 PM
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I think the overlap/influence of PrimeTime has doomed JJ. PT director has been a JJ HS asst coach. Over the past 7-8 years, lots of JJ kids have filled the PT rosters at the young grade levels (say 3rd - 6th). Then in middle school up to high school, most of those JJ players have gotten cut by PT as other talent rolls in each year (including many repeats) from surrounding towns and sometimes far away. Lots of JJ kids have gotten disillusioned and quit the sport through that process.

I disagree. Look, PT is a top nationally ranked club team, JJ would be lucky to have 1 or 2 kids per year in the HS team. If kids get cut , need to get over themselves. You don’t need to be PT level to contribute on the HS team. THE issue is Timmy, not connected to the kids in any way throughout the year, doesn’t do any work out side practice and game day, just shows up and coaches. No investment in kids or program. Cuts anyone he thinks won’t contribute, shouldn’t a good coach develop kids? Coaching philosophy from 1980’s that doesn’t motivate or work in 2021. Yorktown would never allow only 24 kids on a team. He needs to go, let the alum take over. Daniello has done more for the program than anyone at this point, someone like him is connected to the kids, can recruit athletes and build back what Timmy crumbled.

The original poster is 100 percent correct. We are still part of the community and Schurr wants nothing to do with the town program and the extra time necessary. These programs are built on the youth and the town and he couldn't care. He also doesn't reach out to parents and try to keep them involved. He does nothing. BTW, he never did, rather he lucked out that JJ had very good kids who went to the HS. There is a reason that close to a dozen members of the 2022/2023 class have left the program to go to other private and PUBLIC schools. There is no unity and it starts with the youth program. Some of these boys would have left regardless but not all. Next year they may have a bit of a bounce back bc there are still a few decent 2022 grads but after that they are in for a looooong downfall unless new families move in OR the culture changes. With the boys who left, the program would be the best in the state and it wouldn't even be close. There have also been many boys who would be strong additions (maybe not D1 commits) who played PT but bc they did not make the upper level PT team have quit the sport. Some of these athletes who quit are excellent players. Unfortunately there is a stigma attached and having the butt't coach be the coach perpetuates that and the boys quit. PT is seen as the only team in town and why bother continuing playing if you are not on that team. Lastly, JJ does nothing as a team in the summer, fall or winter, no team lifting, nada, nyet. I have friends in other communities who tell me all that they do. For years JJ lived on the PT members who made up a substantial part of the varsity team but those days are over.

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Anonymous #330251 05/15/21 07:32 PM
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1. Mamo
2. Iona Prep
3. Town
4. Bcliff
5. Bville
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pville
9. Scars
10. Step

Why even put Iona Prep in rankings. They get to pull from all those towns so its not apples to apples. Rank them against the private school competition in the area 1- Wick, 2- St Anthony's 3- Chaminade 4- Iona Prep. 5- RCDS 6-Fairfield Prep 7- Stepinac 8-Kellenberg 9- Fordham 10- does it matter

True. Sick of how polls and rankings, even a random dad post like this, includes private schools with their recruiting. It is not apples to apples. Just keep them separate.

1. Mamo
2. Town
3. Bcliff
4. Bville
5. Scars
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pelham
9. Byram
10. JJ

Well these rankings changed today.

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Anonymous #330288 05/15/21 11:20 PM
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Not so sure why the history matters, we're talking about the present. Yankees have a bunch of titles arent even close to best today. Irrelevant.

I guess it’s not so irrelevant. You got knocked down a notch today huh?

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Anonymous #330337 05/16/21 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
1. Mamo
2. Iona Prep
3. Town
4. Bcliff
5. Bville
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pville
9. Scars
10. Step

Why even put Iona Prep in rankings. They get to pull from all those towns so its not apples to apples. Rank them against the private school competition in the area 1- Wick, 2- St Anthony's 3- Chaminade 4- Iona Prep. 5- RCDS 6-Fairfield Prep 7- Stepinac 8-Kellenberg 9- Fordham 10- does it matter

True. Sick of how polls and rankings, even a random dad post like this, includes private schools with their recruiting. It is not apples to apples. Just keep them separate.

1. Mamo
2. Town
3. Bcliff
4. Bville
5. Scars
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pelham
9. Byram
10. JJ

Well these rankings changed today.
True dat, as the youth say

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Anonymous #330358 05/16/21 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
1. Mamo
2. Iona Prep
3. Town
4. Bcliff
5. Bville
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pville
9. Scars
10. Step

Why even put Iona Prep in rankings. They get to pull from all those towns so its not apples to apples. Rank them against the private school competition in the area 1- Wick, 2- St Anthony's 3- Chaminade 4- Iona Prep. 5- RCDS 6-Fairfield Prep 7- Stepinac 8-Kellenberg 9- Fordham 10- does it matter

True. Sick of how polls and rankings, even a random dad post like this, includes private schools with their recruiting. It is not apples to apples. Just keep them separate.

1. Mamo
2. Town
3. Bcliff
4. Bville
5. Scars
6. LP
7. Rye
8. Pelham
9. Byram
10. JJ

Well these rankings changed today.
True dat, as the youth say

I don’t think they do. I have no idea what they say but I’m pretty sure it’s not “true dat” I can ask my son but then I open myself up to a long, arduous conversation about what “true dat” means and why I’m even asking.

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B_O_T_C #330506 05/17/21 10:06 AM
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Pretty quiet from the Mamo peanut gallery. Best of luck the rest of the way.

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Anonymous #330724 05/18/21 09:13 AM
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Pretty quiet from the Mamo peanut gallery. Best of luck the rest of the way.

No idea who is "best team". Forget ranking these teams. Just group them. This is sort of year when any given game can go one way or the other for certain teams. Good for everybody.

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Anonymous #330725 05/18/21 09:13 AM
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Well now we don't have to hear about Yorktown's greatness, Rye was clearly the better team yesterday.

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