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Anonymous #328923 05/04/21 01:58 PM
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All this pent up aggression towards McDonogh. I guess now is the time to get out your anger while they are down. Who will be the next target for parents to vent about.......

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All this pent up aggression towards McDonogh. I guess now is the time to get out your anger while they are down. Who will be the next target for parents to vent about.......
I don't believe it has anything to do with anger towards a specific school - if it was any school, the question would still be asked. How can they be seeded higher? I think it's a legit question and concern.

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The hierarchy of the IAAM must have been under the influence when they decided the formula for the playoffs. It is absolutely absurd that an 11-2 team is seeded over an 11-1 team. I don't care about head to head. I defy anyone to find a situation where winning percentage hasn't been the determining factor in a predetermined playoff seeding situation.

It is not beating up on McDonogh and quite frankly to think a parent is behind this is absurd. This is about what is the right thing to do. Whomever made this decision to base the seedings on total number of wins in lieu of winning percentage really made an abysmal decision. NDP should be seeded second and McDonogh third.

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The hierarchy of the IAAM must have been under the influence when they decided the formula for the playoffs. It is absolutely absurd that an 11-2 team is seeded over an 11-1 team. I don't care about head to head. I defy anyone to find a situation where winning percentage hasn't been the determining factor in a predetermined playoff seeding situation.
The problem is that the number of games played could not be predetermined because cancellations were inevitable. If winning percentage were the top criteria, would a 6-0 team be the number one seed? I concede that example is extreme, but what about a 9-0 team that hadn't played NDP, McDonogh or SPSG? Should that team be the top seed? The IAAM should have published criteria specific to this season.

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As they say, "it is what it is"

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The hierarchy of the IAAM must have been under the influence when they decided the formula for the playoffs. It is absolutely absurd that an 11-2 team is seeded over an 11-1 team. I don't care about head to head. I defy anyone to find a situation where winning percentage hasn't been the determining factor in a predetermined playoff seeding situation.
The problem is that the number of games played could not be predetermined because cancellations were inevitable. If winning percentage were the top criteria, would a 6-0 team be the number one seed? I concede that example is extreme, but what about a 9-0 team that hadn't played NDP, McDonogh or SPSG? Should that team be the top seed? The IAAM should have published criteria specific to this season.

Coversely should a team that ends with an 8-5 record get a higher seed than a team that goes 7-0 and had six Covid cancellations? . Please look at how college sports handled this situation this winter. There were massive cancellations due to Covid. You can find the links below. All of the sports and conferences based their seedings off of winning percentage. The IAAM clearly blew this.

https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=wbball
https://www.bigeast.com/standings.aspx?standings=3
https://bigten.org/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://bigten.org/index.aspx?path=wbball
https://bigten.org/sports/2021/1/8/WRE_STAND_2021.aspx

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I'm not sure what the confusion is. The standings on the IAAM website have been sorted by Wins the whole season. With teams not playing the same number of games that's how they chose to do it. McD and NDP both ended the season with 11 wins. McD beat NDP so therefore gets the #2 seed. I'm not a big fan of the parent being accused on here, but nothing got changed recently in how the IAAM was ranking the teams. Even after SPSG beat McD, the standings still had McD in first place because they had played more games than SPSG at the time and had more wins.

Everything isn't always a conspiracy theory. Not to mention that every school's AD knew the rules going into the season.

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The hierarchy of the IAAM must have been under the influence when they decided the formula for the playoffs. It is absolutely absurd that an 11-2 team is seeded over an 11-1 team. I don't care about head to head. I defy anyone to find a situation where winning percentage hasn't been the determining factor in a predetermined playoff seeding situation.
The problem is that the number of games played could not be predetermined because cancellations were inevitable. If winning percentage were the top criteria, would a 6-0 team be the number one seed? I concede that example is extreme, but what about a 9-0 team that hadn't played NDP, McDonogh or SPSG? Should that team be the top seed? The IAAM should have published criteria specific to this season.

Coversely should a team that ends with an 8-5 record get a higher seed than a team that goes 7-0 and had six Covid cancellations? . Please look at how college sports handled this situation this winter. There were massive cancellations due to Covid. You can find the links below. All of the sports and conferences based their seedings off of winning percentage. The IAAM clearly blew this.

https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=wbball
https://www.bigeast.com/standings.aspx?standings=3
https://bigten.org/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://bigten.org/index.aspx?path=wbball
https://bigten.org/sports/2021/1/8/WRE_STAND_2021.aspx

Maybe so but all the ADs knew how it was going to be done going into the season. Maybe they should have published the seeding rules on their website so that crazy parents knew them, but if anyone paid attention to the standings all season they would have seen how it was being done. They didn't change things around last night. The standings have been sorted that way all year.

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The hierarchy of the IAAM must have been under the influence when they decided the formula for the playoffs. It is absolutely absurd that an 11-2 team is seeded over an 11-1 team. I don't care about head to head. I defy anyone to find a situation where winning percentage hasn't been the determining factor in a predetermined playoff seeding situation.
The problem is that the number of games played could not be predetermined because cancellations were inevitable. If winning percentage were the top criteria, would a 6-0 team be the number one seed? I concede that example is extreme, but what about a 9-0 team that hadn't played NDP, McDonogh or SPSG? Should that team be the top seed? The IAAM should have published criteria specific to this season.

Coversely should a team that ends with an 8-5 record get a higher seed than a team that goes 7-0 and had six Covid cancellations? . Please look at how college sports handled this situation this winter. There were massive cancellations due to Covid. You can find the links below. All of the sports and conferences based their seedings off of winning percentage. The IAAM clearly blew this.

https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=wbball
https://www.bigeast.com/standings.aspx?standings=3
https://bigten.org/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://bigten.org/index.aspx?path=wbball
https://bigten.org/sports/2021/1/8/WRE_STAND_2021.aspx

Maybe so but all the ADs knew how it was going to be done going into the season. Maybe they should have published the seeding rules on their website so that crazy parents knew them, but if anyone paid attention to the standings all season they would have seen how it was being done. They didn't change things around last night. The standings have been sorted that way all year.
Covid issues already cancelled one playoff game.

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Anonymous #329039 Yesterday at 10:20 AM
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St Pauls & McD played 13 games. NDP would have played 13 games but one game got cancelled due to COVID. That game should have been forfeited and made a "win" for NDP since the cancellation was not due to them. Then NDP would have 12 games "won" and therefore 1st & 2nd would have been between St Pauls & NDP and McD would be 3rd. Rankings should have been adjusted due to COVID cancellations.

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The hierarchy of the IAAM must have been under the influence when they decided the formula for the playoffs. It is absolutely absurd that an 11-2 team is seeded over an 11-1 team. I don't care about head to head. I defy anyone to find a situation where winning percentage hasn't been the determining factor in a predetermined playoff seeding situation.
The problem is that the number of games played could not be predetermined because cancellations were inevitable. If winning percentage were the top criteria, would a 6-0 team be the number one seed? I concede that example is extreme, but what about a 9-0 team that hadn't played NDP, McDonogh or SPSG? Should that team be the top seed? The IAAM should have published criteria specific to this season.

Coversely should a team that ends with an 8-5 record get a higher seed than a team that goes 7-0 and had six Covid cancellations? . Please look at how college sports handled this situation this winter. There were massive cancellations due to Covid. You can find the links below. All of the sports and conferences based their seedings off of winning percentage. The IAAM clearly blew this.

https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=wbball
https://www.bigeast.com/standings.aspx?standings=3
https://bigten.org/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://bigten.org/index.aspx?path=wbball
https://bigten.org/sports/2021/1/8/WRE_STAND_2021.aspx

Maybe so but all the ADs knew how it was going to be done going into the season. Maybe they should have published the seeding rules on their website so that crazy parents knew them, but if anyone paid attention to the standings all season they would have seen how it was being done. They didn't change things around last night. The standings have been sorted that way all year.
Covid issues already cancelled one playoff game.

Which one?

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The hierarchy of the IAAM must have been under the influence when they decided the formula for the playoffs. It is absolutely absurd that an 11-2 team is seeded over an 11-1 team. I don't care about head to head. I defy anyone to find a situation where winning percentage hasn't been the determining factor in a predetermined playoff seeding situation.
The problem is that the number of games played could not be predetermined because cancellations were inevitable. If winning percentage were the top criteria, would a 6-0 team be the number one seed? I concede that example is extreme, but what about a 9-0 team that hadn't played NDP, McDonogh or SPSG? Should that team be the top seed? The IAAM should have published criteria specific to this season.

Coversely should a team that ends with an 8-5 record get a higher seed than a team that goes 7-0 and had six Covid cancellations? . Please look at how college sports handled this situation this winter. There were massive cancellations due to Covid. You can find the links below. All of the sports and conferences based their seedings off of winning percentage. The IAAM clearly blew this.

https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=wbball
https://www.bigeast.com/standings.aspx?standings=3
https://bigten.org/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://bigten.org/index.aspx?path=wbball
https://bigten.org/sports/2021/1/8/WRE_STAND_2021.aspx

Maybe so but all the ADs knew how it was going to be done going into the season. Maybe they should have published the seeding rules on their website so that crazy parents knew them, but if anyone paid attention to the standings all season they would have seen how it was being done. They didn't change things around last night. The standings have been sorted that way all year.
Covid issues already cancelled one playoff game.
MDSA out due to Covid. GCS advances.

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The hierarchy of the IAAM must have been under the influence when they decided the formula for the playoffs. It is absolutely absurd that an 11-2 team is seeded over an 11-1 team. I don't care about head to head. I defy anyone to find a situation where winning percentage hasn't been the determining factor in a predetermined playoff seeding situation.
The problem is that the number of games played could not be predetermined because cancellations were inevitable. If winning percentage were the top criteria, would a 6-0 team be the number one seed? I concede that example is extreme, but what about a 9-0 team that hadn't played NDP, McDonogh or SPSG? Should that team be the top seed? The IAAM should have published criteria specific to this season.

Coversely should a team that ends with an 8-5 record get a higher seed than a team that goes 7-0 and had six Covid cancellations? . Please look at how college sports handled this situation this winter. There were massive cancellations due to Covid. You can find the links below. All of the sports and conferences based their seedings off of winning percentage. The IAAM clearly blew this.

https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://theacc.com/standings.aspx?path=wbball
https://www.bigeast.com/standings.aspx?standings=3
https://bigten.org/standings.aspx?path=mbball
https://bigten.org/index.aspx?path=wbball
https://bigten.org/sports/2021/1/8/WRE_STAND_2021.aspx

Maybe so but all the ADs knew how it was going to be done going into the season. Maybe they should have published the seeding rules on their website so that crazy parents knew them, but if anyone paid attention to the standings all season they would have seen how it was being done. They didn't change things around last night. The standings have been sorted that way all year.
Covid issues already cancelled one playoff game.
MDSA out due to Covid. GCS advances.

That's the third shutdown for MDS? They just played a games last week and this monday after their second shutdown

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If you are not going to reward forfeit wins to the teams who had no control over not playing and weren’t the ones who needed to cancel the game because of positive covid cases on the team, then the only fair way to seed teams is by win percentage. McD was ranked 3rd by win percentage, the way it should be. Hours later, they were 2nd with a lower % than the now 3rd seed. Everyone in the current high school atmosphere doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to know strings were pulled. Nothing you can do about it now but go out and beat them. Good luck to the teams playing this afternoon.

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If you are not going to reward forfeit wins to the teams who had no control over not playing and weren’t the ones who needed to cancel the game because of positive covid cases on the team, then the only fair way to seed teams is by win percentage. McD was ranked 3rd by win percentage, the way it should be. Hours later, they were 2nd with a lower % than the now 3rd seed. Everyone in the current high school atmosphere doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to know strings were pulled. Nothing you can do about it now but go out and beat them. Good luck to the teams playing this afternoon.

You're wrong. The standings on the IAAM website have been sorted by wins all year. It wasn't changed within hours. NDP canceled the game originally when they voluntarily shutdown their own program for 2 weeks so they bear just as much if not more responsibility for not getting all their games in as anyone else. By choosing to shutdown for 2 weeks they not only rescheduled games that were supposed to take place during those two weeks they also took away any off days to move games that got postponed later. NDP is playing RPCS. I'm pretty sure they'll be ok not having a bye and would be playing McD regardless if it was sorted by winning percentage. So what's the big deal?

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