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Re: Greater Howard Club Lacrosse Conference (HoCo)
Anonymous #328852 05/04/21 09:57 AM
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The level of racism at games this spring has been horrible among the parents. The league needs to address this and clean up its act. Truly depressing to watch.


What would you like the Howard County Park and Rec to do to resolve your issue. They can barely put toilet paper in the bathroom or clean the bathrooms

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Re: Greater Howard Club Lacrosse Conference (HoCo)
TLaxOne #328862 05/04/21 10:36 AM
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It doesn’t do anyone any good to report specific teams because that unnecessarily puts the kid(s) and teams in the spotlight. The point is that people need to do better to make this a more inclusive sport. Denying it could ever happen just because you haven’t seen it and people don’t want the hassle that goes along with reporting it and the inevitable denials from the people involved is a bad look.

Refusing to provide specific evidence that something is happening, when other people don't see it happening, is a bad look for you. Telling people to "do better" to fix a problem, when you can't even convince anyone it actually exists, is a bad look for you. Makes you look like an irrational troublemaker.

"People need to do better" - so what are YOU, personally, doing to make lacrosse more "inclusive"? Or is your only job to tell people they are bad and need to try harder to be good?

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Refusing to provide specific evidence that something is happening, when other people don't see it happening, is a bad look for you. Telling people to "do better" to fix a problem, when you can't even convince anyone it actually exists, is a bad look for you. Makes you look like an irrational troublemaker.

"People need to do better" - so what are YOU, personally, doing to make lacrosse more "inclusive"? Or is your only job to tell people they are bad and need to try harder to be good?
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Anonymous #328889 05/04/21 12:02 PM
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It doesn’t do anyone any good to report specific teams because that unnecessarily puts the kid(s) and teams in the spotlight. The point is that people need to do better to make this a more inclusive sport. Denying it could ever happen just because you haven’t seen it and people don’t want the hassle that goes along with reporting it and the inevitable denials from the people involved is a bad look.

Refusing to provide specific evidence that something is happening, when other people don't see it happening, is a bad look for you. Telling people to "do better" to fix a problem, when you can't even convince anyone it actually exists, is a bad look for you. Makes you look like an irrational troublemaker.

"People need to do better" - so what are YOU, personally, doing to make lacrosse more "inclusive"? Or is your only job to tell people they are bad and need to try harder to be good?

This is the problem with those that don't personally experience something - they say it doesn't exist. I have had my black son have issues during HOCO. This was 2 years ago but I'm sure it didn't get out to every family and team in HOCO - even though we complained and we thought the league did a decent job addressing it. So just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

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TLaxOne #328928 05/04/21 02:11 PM
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I can't speak for previous years, but I coach a diverse team in a '25 division. No issues whatsoever for me, my players, or families that I am aware of. We've won and lost some and all the teams/fans have been gracious winners and losers. It's been a great league for us.

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This information was posted on another board, thought it would be relevant here:

playoffs are scheduled for May 14 – 16. If you have 9or more teams in your division, please plan on playing a Friday night play-in game (May 14). In addition, the 2028 elite division will also have Friday night games based on the way things went this season.

May 15 will be semifinals and May 16 will be championships.

We asked that programs leave the weekend of 5/22-5/23 open as we will use those dates for any games that are supposed to be played on championship weekend.

8 teams or less – Top 4 teams make playoffs (exception 2028 Elite)

9 teams or more – Top 5 teams make playoffs

Tie Breakers
1. Record/Winning percentage
2. Head to Head
3. Total winning percentage of teams you have beaten
4. Total winning percentage of all your opponents
5. Total goals scored against
6. Coin Toss/Card Draw

Please note: The online standings do not reflect the above tiebreakers. We’re working on placing standings in the correct order based on our tiebreakers.

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TLaxOne #328958 05/04/21 05:57 PM
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What is the league going to due about games still labeled postponed or those that were never played (no scores provided)? When exactly is a game forfeited and when will the standings be updated with those forfeited games?

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Anonymous #328963 05/04/21 06:33 PM
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You are not helping what you think you are helping. In fact - you are making it worse.

Do better.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
This information was posted on another board, thought it would be relevant here:

playoffs are scheduled for May 14 – 16. If you have 9or more teams in your division, please plan on playing a Friday night play-in game (May 14). In addition, the 2028 elite division will also have Friday night games based on the way things went this season.

May 15 will be semifinals and May 16 will be championships.

We asked that programs leave the weekend of 5/22-5/23 open as we will use those dates for any games that are supposed to be played on championship weekend.

8 teams or less – Top 4 teams make playoffs (exception 2028 Elite)

9 teams or more – Top 5 teams make playoffs

Tie Breakers
1. Record/Winning percentage
2. Head to Head
3. Total winning percentage of teams you have beaten
4. Total winning percentage of all your opponents
5. Total goals scored against
6. Coin Toss/Card Draw

Please note: The online standings do not reflect the above tiebreakers. We’re working on placing standings in the correct order based on our tiebreakers.

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Anonymous #328980 05/04/21 09:10 PM
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It doesn’t do anyone any good to report specific teams because that unnecessarily puts the kid(s) and teams in the spotlight. The point is that people need to do better to make this a more inclusive sport. Denying it could ever happen just because you haven’t seen it and people don’t want the hassle that goes along with reporting it and the inevitable denials from the people involved is a bad look.

Refusing to provide specific evidence that something is happening, when other people don't see it happening, is a bad look for you. Telling people to "do better" to fix a problem, when you can't even convince anyone it actually exists, is a bad look for you. Makes you look like an irrational troublemaker.

"People need to do better" - so what are YOU, personally, doing to make lacrosse more "inclusive"? Or is your only job to tell people they are bad and need to try harder to be good?

This is the problem with those that don't personally experience something - they say it doesn't exist. I have had my black son have issues during HOCO. This was 2 years ago but I'm sure it didn't get out to every family and team in HOCO - even though we complained and we thought the league did a decent job addressing it. So just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

So one incident spells doom for all the players and coaches?? I was robbed in Howard County by a AA, does that mean all are AA are criminals in Howard County ? Of course not, but with the logic and overblown agenda we have here , seems so..

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Anonymous #329040 Yesterday at 10:25 AM
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It doesn’t do anyone any good to report specific teams because that unnecessarily puts the kid(s) and teams in the spotlight. The point is that people need to do better to make this a more inclusive sport. Denying it could ever happen just because you haven’t seen it and people don’t want the hassle that goes along with reporting it and the inevitable denials from the people involved is a bad look.

Refusing to provide specific evidence that something is happening, when other people don't see it happening, is a bad look for you. Telling people to "do better" to fix a problem, when you can't even convince anyone it actually exists, is a bad look for you. Makes you look like an irrational troublemaker.

"People need to do better" - so what are YOU, personally, doing to make lacrosse more "inclusive"? Or is your only job to tell people they are bad and need to try harder to be good?

This is the problem with those that don't personally experience something - they say it doesn't exist. I have had my black son have issues during HOCO. This was 2 years ago but I'm sure it didn't get out to every family and team in HOCO - even though we complained and we thought the league did a decent job addressing it. So just because you don't know about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

Nothing has happened to my 3 sons in 9 years of HOCO, but each one has experienced a quite a few things at tournaments. It becomes he said/he said if complained about and basically nothing is addressed on a formal level. (The offenders aren't wearing mics, no proff.) Only once was a kid dense enough to say something to my son near a ref. Ansyway, the stuff happens. A lot.

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