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Re: Long Island Yellow Jackets Lacrosse
Anonymous #325890 04/04/21 07:11 AM
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A question for parents with college experience. If you’re daughter is a top recruit (top 20 ranked) has excellent grades. What type of scholarship should be expected? Ivy is also an option and we would probably qualify for about half tuition. Wondering if it the scholarship money would be be better at a non Ivy but top academic and lax school like NW, Stanford, Duke. Would appreciate any insight!

Did you plug your numbers in to any Ivy financial aid calculators? Ivy aid varies from school to school.

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Most parent do have blinders on about their own kid. There are usually only a few tier 1 players at any UA or AS tryout. Parents are way to busy complaining about how their kid was done wrong. There are probably 30 deserving girls/boys for the final 10 spots on any all star team. Do you kid some real good and have an honest conversation with them about what parts of the tryout gave them the most trouble. These tryout are great for the kids that are hungry to be a D1 player and willing to work to get better. This part is going to scare many parents, the high level players all practice/work out away from the clubs practices. It's where their true gains are made, clubs can only fine tune players. Hit the wall, hit the weights and play as much pick up as possible. Where there's a will, there's a way! Corny, but true.

I would say more than a few Tier 1 players at the tryouts especially on the boys side... 30 could be a bit too high on the girls side but spitting hairs.... on the boys side yes 30 - 40 for the last 10 spots.... UA should have two teams for Long Island one for Nassau and Suffolk.... both would be competitive....

Think about the numbers folks. Say top 25 division 1 teams have about 35 players. That’s 875 players. Plenty of these kids didn’t play UA.

On the girls side there are approximately 15 or so "Programs" that are always in the mix. These are the programs that have their teams finish the season ranked in the Top 20 every year or just about every year. Then there are a handful of teams that make make the Top 20 from time to time and then there are many teams that never finish in the Top 20. It is safe to say that the reason that best programs are "the best programs" is because they bring in the best players year after year. When you look at the Top Programs and then you look at "Long Island Players" you will see that each year there are somewhere between 20 - 25 players that end up at those Top Programs. There are 10 Teams that always finish in the Top 20: North Carolina, Maryland, Boston College, Northwestern, Syracuse, Virginia, Princeton, Penn, Florida, Stony Brook (they are the only programs to finish in the Top 20 every year 2015 - 2019). Notre Dame, Penn State and JMU were there 4 of 5 years. Duke was in that top group for many years but for some reason has fallen off.

Broken down by year the Top Programs (which is where the majority of the top players go) we are talking approximately 150 - 200 players (excluding Stony Brook because they for the most bart bring in all LI players).

Maybe 20 - 30 Long Island players per year go to the Top Programs. If you look at history, I am willing to bet that a high percentage of the players who went to those schools were also selected to the LI Underclass Teams.

250 + girls go on to play lacrosse at the college level each year from Long Island, 100 or so Go DI.... 20 - 30 go to Top Programs.

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Can anyone shed light on the younger YJ Nassau teams? Is Lomangino still overseeing these teams and what's her plan for next year?

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I’ve heard Lomangino hasn’t been very active after initially getting the teams off the ground. Maybe CR will take over the teams?

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"I’ve heard Lomangino hasn’t been very active after initially getting the teams off the ground. Maybe CR will take over the teams"

What are you talking about? The Spring season just began. CR hates Nassau and will not be taking over teams. Comical.

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She may “detest” Nassau but like Nassau money. Last I checked, money was green in Nassau too.

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Can anyone shed light on the younger YJ Nassau teams? Is Lomangino still overseeing these teams and what's her plan for next year?

I’m not sure. But her website that has the team info hasn’t been updated in a year.

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"I’ve heard Lomangino hasn’t been very active after initially getting the teams off the ground. Maybe CR will take over the teams"

What are you talking about? The Spring season just began. CR hates Nassau and will not be taking over teams. Comical.


You trying to say something that you have a better chance to make the A (Blue) team if you are from Suffolk??
I would think she would take the top players for A team no matter what??
Be fair to say “A” team is 75% suffolk??

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Which 2027 YJ team is their top team? Thanks

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A question for parents with college experience. If you’re daughter is a top recruit (top 20 ranked) has excellent grades. What type of scholarship should be expected? Ivy is also an option and we would probably qualify for about half tuition. Wondering if it the scholarship money would be be better at a non Ivy but top academic and lax school like NW, Stanford, Duke. Would appreciate any insight!


35% is a great offer unless you are a goalie,where you may get up to 50 or 60%.

For quick math, teams get 12 schollies, which average out to 3 per class.

Most top teams bring in 10 players, 6 or 7 of which get some $$. Assuming the goalie get 50%, then 7 players are dividing up 2.5 schollies.

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A question for parents with college experience. If you’re daughter is a top recruit (top 20 ranked) has excellent grades. What type of scholarship should be expected? Ivy is also an option and we would probably qualify for about half tuition. Wondering if it the scholarship money would be be better at a non Ivy but top academic and lax school like NW, Stanford, Duke. Would appreciate any insight!


35% is a great offer unless you are a goalie,where you may get up to 50 or 60%.

For quick math, teams get 12 schollies, which average out to 3 per class.

Most top teams bring in 10 players, 6 or 7 of which get some $$. Assuming the goalie get 50%, then 7 players are dividing up 2.5 schollies.

Most of this ranking of players is a joke, so you seriously can’t go by these ranking lists you always see. Some kids belong on there, and some do not. Having a name on the rank list does not get you offers, although it may open doors to get seen. But coaches will evaluate players and find what they deem as top prospects. A true top prospect player will get 50% - 75% offers from at least half of the major top 10 programs and may get a full offer from one or two of these schools. This is for the first year with room to go to full based on performance. The next wave of schools are the ones that drift in and out of the top 20, say from ranked between 11-30, you will get more full offers, probably close to 1/3 to 1/2 of these schools. And even higher ratio from schools below that. But be realistic, only a small handful of kids fit this description. Think about the top travel team in the nation, and you may get 2-3 kids with these offers. The rest of the players on that same team will see about half that.

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A question for parents with college experience. If you’re daughter is a top recruit (top 20 ranked) has excellent grades. What type of scholarship should be expected? Ivy is also an option and we would probably qualify for about half tuition. Wondering if it the scholarship money would be be better at a non Ivy but top academic and lax school like NW, Stanford, Duke. Would appreciate any insight!


35% is a great offer unless you are a goalie,where you may get up to 50 or 60%.

For quick math, teams get 12 schollies, which average out to 3 per class.

Most top teams bring in 10 players, 6 or 7 of which get some $$. Assuming the goalie get 50%, then 7 players are dividing up 2.5 schollies.

Most of this ranking of players is a joke, so you seriously can’t go by these ranking lists you always see. Some kids belong on there, and some do not. Having a name on the rank list does not get you offers, although it may open doors to get seen. But coaches will evaluate players and find what they deem as top prospects. A true top prospect player will get 50% - 75% offers from at least half of the major top 10 programs and may get a full offer from one or two of these schools. This is for the first year with room to go to full based on performance. The next wave of schools are the ones that drift in and out of the top 20, say from ranked between 11-30, you will get more full offers, probably close to 1/3 to 1/2 of these schools. And even higher ratio from schools below that. But be realistic, only a small handful of kids fit this description. Think about the top travel team in the nation, and you may get 2-3 kids with these offers. The rest of the players on that same team will see about half that.


I agree with because I’ve been through the process. However you are wrong about the one year. Big ten schools guarantee in writing the full scholarship offered for all 4 years.

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A question for parents with college experience. If you’re daughter is a top recruit (top 20 ranked) has excellent grades. What type of scholarship should be expected? Ivy is also an option and we would probably qualify for about half tuition. Wondering if it the scholarship money would be be better at a non Ivy but top academic and lax school like NW, Stanford, Duke. Would appreciate any insight!


35% is a great offer unless you are a goalie,where you may get up to 50 or 60%.

For quick math, teams get 12 schollies, which average out to 3 per class.

Most top teams bring in 10 players, 6 or 7 of which get some $$. Assuming the goalie get 50%, then 7 players are dividing up 2.5 schollies.

Most of this ranking of players is a joke, so you seriously can’t go by these ranking lists you always see. Some kids belong on there, and some do not. Having a name on the rank list does not get you offers, although it may open doors to get seen. But coaches will evaluate players and find what they deem as top prospects. A true top prospect player will get 50% - 75% offers from at least half of the major top 10 programs and may get a full offer from one or two of these schools. This is for the first year with room to go to full based on performance. The next wave of schools are the ones that drift in and out of the top 20, say from ranked between 11-30, you will get more full offers, probably close to 1/3 to 1/2 of these schools. And even higher ratio from schools below that. But be realistic, only a small handful of kids fit this description. Think about the top travel team in the nation, and you may get 2-3 kids with these offers. The rest of the players on that same team will see about half that.


I agree with because I’ve been through the process. However you are wrong about the one year. Big ten schools guarantee in writing the full scholarship offered for all 4 years.

This is pretty much on point, however a scholarship can be taken away at any time. No such thing as 4 year deal; each year it is technically renewable. That said they honor their word 99.6% of the time, but there are cases where they may want to free money up from a non-factor and they will find a way to do that if necessary. Its very rare to have kids on the team with full rides (only hoops and football). You may get full tuition and books but very rare to get ALL....... esp at the top programs. A program like Drexel may offer a full boat to a top 10 kid in the class that can change their program, but a NW or MD would offer that same kid 60% with incentives to get more the next year and so on.

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A question for parents with college experience. If you’re daughter is a top recruit (top 20 ranked) has excellent grades. What type of scholarship should be expected? Ivy is also an option and we would probably qualify for about half tuition. Wondering if it the scholarship money would be be better at a non Ivy but top academic and lax school like NW, Stanford, Duke. Would appreciate any insight!


35% is a great offer unless you are a goalie,where you may get up to 50 or 60%.

For quick math, teams get 12 schollies, which average out to 3 per class.

Most top teams bring in 10 players, 6 or 7 of which get some $$. Assuming the goalie get 50%, then 7 players are dividing up 2.5 schollies.

Most of this ranking of players is a joke, so you seriously can’t go by these ranking lists you always see. Some kids belong on there, and some do not. Having a name on the rank list does not get you offers, although it may open doors to get seen. But coaches will evaluate players and find what they deem as top prospects. A true top prospect player will get 50% - 75% offers from at least half of the major top 10 programs and may get a full offer from one or two of these schools. This is for the first year with room to go to full based on performance. The next wave of schools are the ones that drift in and out of the top 20, say from ranked between 11-30, you will get more full offers, probably close to 1/3 to 1/2 of these schools. And even higher ratio from schools below that. But be realistic, only a small handful of kids fit this description. Think about the top travel team in the nation, and you may get 2-3 kids with these offers. The rest of the players on that same team will see about half that.

Here we go again.... "Ranking of players is a joke" ... Bla bla bla... While I would agree that some lists created by local outlets are questionable The Inside Lacrosse Senior Rankings (Top 30, 40) have proven to be pretty accurate. Not the actual order but for the most part the players ranked in the top 30 or 40 do in fact go on to many of the Top 10 - 15 programs and they do very well.

I would add that the amount of $$ a player is offered also depends on where the player ranks on a particular schools list. Not every top tier recruit is a schools #1 recruit. The player could be BC's #1 and UNC's #2 and Northwesterns # 4. The Schools #1 will get more than their #4.

The fact is that the majority of those Top 30, 40 players do go to the Top 10 - 15 programs and that is why the same schools always seem to be the same. There are maybe 10 - 15 programs that finish the season in the Top 20 every year (some in the Top 10 every year) then there are another 10 or so teams that bounce in and out from time to time.

It is not 100% accurate but there is a definite correlation between the number of "IL top 30,40" recruits a program gets and how that program performs over time. The Top Programs bring in the "Top Recruits" and the cycle repeats itself.

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To be clear. THE IVY LEAGUE DOES NOT GIVE ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIPS. If any stunad tells you his daughter got a full ride, half, whatever from an ivy school, he is essentially telling you how little he makes. The IVY's have need based financial aid. There is no blurred line, it is need based.

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