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Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021
TheBackOfTheCage #327429 04/19/21 03:15 PM
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One year of extra play and extra developments makes a huge difference for a boys lacrosse player. Especially mentally for their confidence. It’s stinks for the on age kids, but Covid and NCAA giving college kids and extra year is definitely going to push a lot of athletes to PG if they really want to play at the next level.

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They do well in college. Usually in the top rankings
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Does it matter what team it is? This amount of reclassing is going to be the norm, not the exception.
Did you happen to catch the latest “Top 23” from the NLF list? It’s a 22 Mid who’s already committed to Princeton, who is reclassing to 23 (but still a 22 and still in 11th grade). There will be a ton of reclassing over the next few years.
That was hysterical! He's actually not reclassing, he's going to graduate as a '22 and take a gap year in Australia. Not sure how that qualifies him as a 23??

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Anonymous #327431 04/19/21 03:28 PM
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They do well in college. Usually in the top rankings
Rankings and playing time / production are two vastly different things. The list of holdbacks that didn’t pan out is much longer than those who did. Look at how all those early recruiting teams are doing. As an example, Hopkins full of holdback and that team stinks.

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Not sure how you get to the top 10 in the NLF 2023 class if you graduate as a 2022. Bizarre

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Anonymous #327435 04/19/21 04:02 PM
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Every time I watch Hopkins I can’t believe how terrible they play for having so many high level recruits. Is it bad team dynamics? Coaching?

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Every time I watch Hopkins I can’t believe how terrible they play for having so many high level recruits. Is it bad team dynamics? Coaching?

They have one of the top holdback recruits! What disappointment holding your kid back twice then he doesn’t show up in college!

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Every time I watch Hopkins I can’t believe how terrible they play for having so many high level recruits. Is it bad team dynamics? Coaching?

I'd give them at least a year or two to decide. The new coaching staff has brought in a whole new offensive system. It will take time to both acclimate current players and bring in new kids who fit that system.

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Every time I watch Hopkins I can’t believe how terrible they play for having so many high level recruits. Is it bad team dynamics? Coaching?

I'd give them at least a year or two to decide. The new coaching staff has brought in a whole new offensive system. It will take time to both acclimate current players and bring in new kids who fit that system.

Hmmm....They got worse since the new coach came.

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Every time I watch Hopkins I can’t believe how terrible they play for having so many high level recruits. Is it bad team dynamics? Coaching?

I'd give them at least a year or two to decide. The new coaching staff has brought in a whole new offensive system. It will take time to both acclimate current players and bring in new kids who fit that system.

Hmmm....They got worse since the new coach came.

Which is not surprising when you bring in a new coaching staff, with a fundamentally different system, but with mostly the same kids from the prior regime. Add in the lack of practice and offseason work because of Covid and it makes it even harder. Which is why I think you need to give it a year or two before making a judgement.

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Every time I watch Hopkins I can’t believe how terrible they play for having so many high level recruits. Is it bad team dynamics? Coaching?

I'd give them at least a year or two to decide. The new coaching staff has brought in a whole new offensive system. It will take time to both acclimate current players and bring in new kids who fit that system.

Hmmm....They got worse since the new coach came.

Which is not surprising when you bring in a new coaching staff, with a fundamentally different system, but with mostly the same kids from the prior regime. Add in the lack of practice and offseason work because of Covid and it makes it even harder. Which is why I think you need to give it a year or two before making a judgement.

Agreed, the guy has a proven track record with a program that does not draw in the same number of top recruits as JHU. That being said, putting aside the lack of practice and offseason work, and the introduction of a new system, their top kids just don't seem to be producing as expected. Also, a lot can be said for the fact that they are not playing outside the BIG 10, in the past, they could get a few wins out of conference.

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Anonymous #327537 04/20/21 12:06 PM
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The older kids, ones who have been older their entire youth lacrosse career have had huge advantages this whole time. They stand out because physically they are better than their younger teammates, which helps them get pushed through to the good showcases and the top of all these lists and get noticed very early on. It’s not a coincidence that the 22 top 10 IL players had birthdates ranging between 3 birth years some 18 years old. Some of these kids were driving, or had permits, in middle school while the on age 13 year old were just hitting puberty.
I applaud the on age players, because those are the ones who are truly the best players! I imagine a good portion of the 23 class will reclass or PG to get out from under this Covid mess. On my sons travel 23 team, 13 of 19 are reclassing after this summer. The other 6 players are already reclassed.


How do you reclass in 10th grade or 9th???????

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Anonymous #327541 04/20/21 12:19 PM
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Every time I watch Hopkins I can’t believe how terrible they play for having so many high level recruits. Is it bad team dynamics? Coaching?

I'd give them at least a year or two to decide. The new coaching staff has brought in a whole new offensive system. It will take time to both acclimate current players and bring in new kids who fit that system.

Hmmm....They got worse since the new coach came.

Which is not surprising when you bring in a new coaching staff, with a fundamentally different system, but with mostly the same kids from the prior regime. Add in the lack of practice and offseason work because of Covid and it makes it even harder. Which is why I think you need to give it a year or two before making a judgement.

Agreed, the guy has a proven track record with a program that does not draw in the same number of top recruits as JHU. That being said, putting aside the lack of practice and offseason work, and the introduction of a new system, their top kids just don't seem to be producing as expected. Also, a lot can be said for the fact that they are not playing outside the BIG 10, in the past, they could get a few wins out of conference.


True. The Big ten is deceiving this year. Hard to know how good/bad the teams are. PSU/Hopkins/OSU/Michigan all have close games with each other. They are all very good teams. Rutgers is a little better, MD, a lot better. They all still should be ranked in top 20, but because the can't prove themselves by playing out of conference, they're getting defeated.

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Anonymous #327545 04/20/21 12:29 PM
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Every time I watch Hopkins I can’t believe how terrible they play for having so many high level recruits. Is it bad team dynamics? Coaching?

I'd give them at least a year or two to decide. The new coaching staff has brought in a whole new offensive system. It will take time to both acclimate current players and bring in new kids who fit that system.

Hmmm....They got worse since the new coach came.

Which is not surprising when you bring in a new coaching staff, with a fundamentally different system, but with mostly the same kids from the prior regime. Add in the lack of practice and offseason work because of Covid and it makes it even harder. Which is why I think you need to give it a year or two before making a judgement.

Agreed, the guy has a proven track record with a program that does not draw in the same number of top recruits as JHU. That being said, putting aside the lack of practice and offseason work, and the introduction of a new system, their top kids just don't seem to be producing as expected. Also, a lot can be said for the fact that they are not playing outside the BIG 10, in the past, they could get a few wins out of conference.


True. The Big ten is deceiving this year. Hard to know how good/bad the teams are. PSU/Hopkins/OSU/Michigan all have close games with each other. They are all very good teams. Rutgers is a little better, MD, a lot better. They all still should be ranked in top 20, but because the can't prove themselves by playing out of conference, they're getting defeated.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Rutgers next year, I think that they were by far the biggest beneficiary of the grad transfers this year.

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TheBackOfTheCage #327554 04/20/21 01:15 PM
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Rutgers will be terrible, MD won't be very good either. Hopkins should look good in Big 10 next year.

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The older kids, ones who have been older their entire youth lacrosse career have had huge advantages this whole time. They stand out because physically they are better than their younger teammates, which helps them get pushed through to the good showcases and the top of all these lists and get noticed very early on. It’s not a coincidence that the 22 top 10 IL players had birthdates ranging between 3 birth years some 18 years old. Some of these kids were driving, or had permits, in middle school while the on age 13 year old were just hitting puberty.
I applaud the on age players, because those are the ones who are truly the best players! I imagine a good portion of the 23 class will reclass or PG to get out from under this Covid mess. On my sons travel 23 team, 13 of 19 are reclassing after this summer. The other 6 players are already reclassed.


How do you reclass in 10th grade or 9th???????

go from public to private....or just just repeat if your already there.

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