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True Annapolis - 2025 - they are a quality team. They played dirty at times though. On Saturday... Ball was at midfield going toward True's defensive end. True attackman comes from behind the opposing team's long pole (in front of the opposing team's goal, far away from the play), and slashes him, breaks his wrist, out of the game, probably out of the tournament. Play stopped for 5-10 minutes while the golf cart came on the field and took the hurt kid off the field.

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Humorous/entertaining tidbits from the tournament:

Cheap shot of the day: Above mentioned slash by True Annapolis attackmen coming from behind and breaking a pole's arm away from the play.

Awards for "What were you thinking?"
1) WSYL organizers: putting the game film camera scaffolding 6 feet from the sidelines. Within 5 minutes of the first game, player from one team pushes a sprinting a midi out of bounds at mid-field and the midi goes crashing directly into the metal scaffolding and tears up his legs on the old fashioned wheels. Kid's legs are beat up, but no concussions from hitting the metal scaffolding. Parents then move the scaffolding farther away from the sideline.
2) WSYL organizers (again) - not marking the center out of bounds lines with a pylon/marker. As a result, multiple kids run out of bounds, thinking that the out of bounds was another painted line 6 feet away. Parents spoke up and a marker was put on the midfield line.
3) FCA Upstate U13 coaches - Warming up for their next game in the 10 feet of space between the shooting nets and the end lines, while a game was going on the field. Balls going out on the field, game players distracted and confused. They are soon directed to an adjacent open field.

Other humorous stories/tidbits are welcomed.

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Does anyone know anything about the Club AYLC? Is this a competitive club team or rec? Is this a daddy ball team?

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Will the WSYL kids be able to tryout for the UA All American showcase? Looks like the days overlap for the DC tryout. Has anyone had the guts to ask if players will be excused from the festivities to tryout?

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Or just do UA next year and the next year and the next year. He is in 8th grade. Relax.

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There are at least 3 who moved down from BLC blue, last years elite pre-DCE team

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Humorous/entertaining tidbits from the tournament:

Cheap shot of the day: Above mentioned slash by True Annapolis attackmen coming from behind and breaking a pole's arm away from the play.

Awards for "What were you thinking?"
1) WSYL organizers: putting the game film camera scaffolding 6 feet from the sidelines. Within 5 minutes of the first game, player from one team pushes a sprinting a midi out of bounds at mid-field and the midi goes crashing directly into the metal scaffolding and tears up his legs on the old fashioned wheels. Kid's legs are beat up, but no concussions from hitting the metal scaffolding. Parents then move the scaffolding farther away from the sideline.
2) WSYL organizers (again) - not marking the center out of bounds lines with a pylon/marker. As a result, multiple kids run out of bounds, thinking that the out of bounds was another painted line 6 feet away. Parents spoke up and a marker was put on the midfield line.
3) FCA Upstate U13 coaches - Warming up for their next game in the 10 feet of space between the shooting nets and the end lines, while a game was going on the field. Balls going out on the field, game players distracted and confused. They are soon directed to an adjacent open field.

Other humorous stories/tidbits are welcomed.

Good for you. "Humorous and entertaining," indeed.

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Or just do UA next year and the next year and the next year. He is in 8th grade. Relax.

Love this response! So true!

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What's the turn out going to be at this??? Who's going? June 19-20 in MD.

https://youthlaxchampionship.com/

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HOCO League Results today

Elite
Crabs 11 vs FCA 10
Madlax Capital 10 vs True Annapolis Green 3
Team 91 10 vs DC Express Black 3
Next Level Blue 11 vs Annapolis Hawks Green 7

AAA
Top Caliber 10 vs Green Turtle 4
Hawks Black 10 vs PLC Gold 5
Zingo's Black 7 vs VLC 6
Kooper's 6 vs Sidewinders 5
Cannon's Gold 12 vs Team Maryland LC 11

AA
DC Express Orange 16 vs Breakers Blue 2
ALC Bay Raiders 13 vs FLC 6
Rock Top 22 12 vs Madlax DMV 6
Next Level Red 6 vs HLC 2

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Cannon's Blue 7 vs MESA 5
Rock Top 44 5 vs True Baltimore 7
HoCo Pink 5 vs Hard Lax Elite 9
True Annapolis White 11 vs Breakers Orange 8

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Where is this hardlax elite team from? 28 GF 13 GA. Never heard of them.

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Where is this hardlax elite team from? 28 GF 13 GA. Never heard of them.

Northern VA, new club coached and founded by great coach from PVI high school. Great opportunity for folks in that area. Good people involved.

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Thank you for posting the HOCO 2025 scores. Great to see it all in one place each week.

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2025 HOCO Scores from Sunday April 11th

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Hawks Green 12 FCA 11

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Cannons Gold 13 Kooper's 2
Top Caliber 10 VLC 8

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Breakers 8 Madlax DMV 3

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If you saw DC Express Orange play this spring, they are not sand bagging. They are in the appropriate division.


Really??? This post hasn't aged well.

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TM 2025 v Zingos 2025 AAA HoCo stream 4/20 7pm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDbwYDaumkM

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Anyone know of any teams playing in the Delaware Spring Classic Tournament on 23 May?

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Anyone know of any teams playing in the Delaware Spring Classic Tournament on 23 May?

Good Mix of NJ/MD/NY teams!

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Ok. Care to name any specific teams?

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2025 Elite Division Standings & Games (4/24-25)

Saturday Games
Madlax Capital: 12 vs FCA: 9
Team 91: 16 vs Annapolis Hawks Green: 6
Next Level Blue: 17 vs Looney's: 4
DC Express Black: 9 vs Crabs: 8

Sunday Games
Team 91: 14 vs Madlax Capital: 5
True Annapolis Green: 8 vs FCA: 7
Next Level Blue: 9 vs DC Express Black: 8 

Standings 
Team 91 6:0 Average Goal Differential +10.6
 Next Level Blue 4:1. AGD +4.8
 DC Express Black 3:2. AGD +0.4
 Crabs 3:3 AGD -2.6
 Annapolis Hawks Green 3:3. AGD +1
 True Annapolis Green. 2:2. AGD +0.5
 Madlax Capital. 2:3. AGD -1.6
 FCA 1:5 AGD -3.2
 Looney's 0:5. AGD -11

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Team 91 continues to work hard and have success in a very tough division. Next weeks game vs Next Level will be the one to watch.

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Team 91 6:0 Average Goal Differential +10.6

Still the team to beat. Can anyone give them some competition? They have won every game by at least 7 goals. NL and True still on the schedule.
Next Level Blue 4:1 AGD +4.8
Looking strong and could give 91 some competition next week. AGD could be inflated since they have 3 tough teams still on the schedule. Also their only loss is FCA's only win.
DC Express Black 3:2 AGD +0.4
They have the closest game against 91 so far and only other loss was to NL in a crazy competitive game
Crabs 3:3 AGD -2.6
Got off to a slow start but have won 3 of the past 4 games and lost to Express by one goal this week. AGD is negative but they have played 91 but not Looneys yet
Annapolis Hawks Green 3:3 AGD +1
Not sure what's happening here some competitive games and some decisive victories
True Annapolis Green 2:2 AGD +0.5
Have only played 4 games so need to see more for a read. AGD is probably inflated since they have played Looneys but not 91 yet.
Madlax Capital 2:3 AGD -1.6
Had a tough early schedule and a strong team . Also haven't played Looneys
FCA 1:5 AGD -3.2
Much better than their record IMO - playing some strong and tight games and beat NL - still have Looneys
Looney's 0:5 AGD -11
Not really looking like an elite division team. They have lost by at least 7 goals in every game (I guess that balances out 91)

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2025 AAA Division Standings & Games (week of 4/24)

Team Maryland LC: 9 vs Zingo's Black: 8
PLC Gold: 7 vs Sidewinders: 6 
Cannon's Gold: 12 vs Hawks Black: 2
Kooper's: 9 vs Zingo's Black: 8
Team Maryland LC: 11 vs Top Caliber: 6
VLC: 6 vs Green Turtle: 2

Standings 
 Cannon's 5:0
 Kooper's 4:1
 Team MD LC 4:1
 Green Turtle 3:2
 Top Caliber 3:2
 VLC 2:3
 Zingo's Black 1:4
 PLC Gold 1:4
 Hawks Black 1:4
 Sidewinders 1:4

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2025 AA Division Standings & Games (week of 4/24)
Breakers Blue: 4 vs THLC 3 
ALC Bay Raiders:12 vs Rock Top 22: 6
Next Level Red:14 vs Madlax DMV: 1
DC Express Orange:14 vs FLC: 4

Standings 
DC Express Orange 5:0 
Next Level Red 5:0 
ALC Bay Raiders 4:1 
Breakers Blue 2:3 
Rock Top 22 2:3 
FLC 2:3 
HLC 0:5 
Madlax DMV 0:5

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Team 91 6:0 Average Goal Differential +10.6

Still the team to beat. Can anyone give them some competition? They have won every game by at least 7 goals. NL and True still on the schedule.
Next Level Blue 4:1 AGD +4.8
Looking strong and could give 91 some competition next week. AGD could be inflated since they have 3 tough teams still on the schedule. Also their only loss is FCA's only win.
DC Express Black 3:2 AGD +0.4
They have the closest game against 91 so far and only other loss was to NL in a crazy competitive game
Crabs 3:3 AGD -2.6
Got off to a slow start but have won 3 of the past 4 games and lost to Express by one goal this week. AGD is negative but they have played 91 but not Looneys yet
Annapolis Hawks Green 3:3 AGD +1
Not sure what's happening here some competitive games and some decisive victories
True Annapolis Green 2:2 AGD +0.5
Have only played 4 games so need to see more for a read. AGD is probably inflated since they have played Looneys but not 91 yet.
Madlax Capital 2:3 AGD -1.6
Had a tough early schedule and a strong team . Also haven't played Looneys
FCA 1:5 AGD -3.2
Much better than their record IMO - playing some strong and tight games and beat NL - still have Looneys
Looney's 0:5 AGD -11
Not really looking like an elite division team. They have lost by at least 7 goals in every game (I guess that balances out 91)


With the exception of Looney's, the modern day MIAA. I'd have to arguably say that the other 8 are 8 of the top 20-25 in the country hands down... kudos to the Mid-Atlantic.

91 is a machine offensively

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Team 91 6:0 Average Goal Differential +10.6

Still the team to beat. Can anyone give them some competition? They have won every game by at least 7 goals. NL and True still on the schedule.
Next Level Blue 4:1 AGD +4.8
Looking strong and could give 91 some competition next week. AGD could be inflated since they have 3 tough teams still on the schedule. Also their only loss is FCA's only win.
DC Express Black 3:2 AGD +0.4
They have the closest game against 91 so far and only other loss was to NL in a crazy competitive game
Crabs 3:3 AGD -2.6
Got off to a slow start but have won 3 of the past 4 games and lost to Express by one goal this week. AGD is negative but they have played 91 but not Looneys yet
Annapolis Hawks Green 3:3 AGD +1
Not sure what's happening here some competitive games and some decisive victories
True Annapolis Green 2:2 AGD +0.5
Have only played 4 games so need to see more for a read. AGD is probably inflated since they have played Looneys but not 91 yet.
Madlax Capital 2:3 AGD -1.6
Had a tough early schedule and a strong team . Also haven't played Looneys
FCA 1:5 AGD -3.2
Much better than their record IMO - playing some strong and tight games and beat NL - still have Looneys
Looney's 0:5 AGD -11
Not really looking like an elite division team. They have lost by at least 7 goals in every game (I guess that balances out 91)


With the exception of Looney's, the modern day MIAA. I'd have to arguably say that the other 8 are 8 of the top 20-25 in the country hands down... kudos to the Mid-Atlantic.

91 is a machine offensively

I've watched of couple of 91's games when our guys played either before or after. They are really good offensively, seem to dominate on time of possession while averaging almost 15 goals per game. They just wear down opposing defenses. And the face off guy is pretty good at getting them the possessions. With their defense giving up fewer than 5 goals per game, they are pretty stout as well. Hopefully the game vs NL will be live streamed.

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Team 91 6:0 Average Goal Differential +10.6

Still the team to beat. Can anyone give them some competition? They have won every game by at least 7 goals. NL and True still on the schedule.
Next Level Blue 4:1 AGD +4.8
Looking strong and could give 91 some competition next week. AGD could be inflated since they have 3 tough teams still on the schedule. Also their only loss is FCA's only win.
DC Express Black 3:2 AGD +0.4
They have the closest game against 91 so far and only other loss was to NL in a crazy competitive game
Crabs 3:3 AGD -2.6
Got off to a slow start but have won 3 of the past 4 games and lost to Express by one goal this week. AGD is negative but they have played 91 but not Looneys yet
Annapolis Hawks Green 3:3 AGD +1
Not sure what's happening here some competitive games and some decisive victories
True Annapolis Green 2:2 AGD +0.5
Have only played 4 games so need to see more for a read. AGD is probably inflated since they have played Looneys but not 91 yet.
Madlax Capital 2:3 AGD -1.6
Had a tough early schedule and a strong team . Also haven't played Looneys
FCA 1:5 AGD -3.2
Much better than their record IMO - playing some strong and tight games and beat NL - still have Looneys
Looney's 0:5 AGD -11
Not really looking like an elite division team. They have lost by at least 7 goals in every game (I guess that balances out 91)


With the exception of Looney's, the modern day MIAA. I'd have to arguably say that the other 8 are 8 of the top 20-25 in the country hands down... kudos to the Mid-Atlantic.

91 is a machine offensively

I've watched of couple of 91's games when our guys played either before or after. They are really good offensively, seem to dominate on time of possession while averaging almost 15 goals per game. They just wear down opposing defenses. And the face off guy is pretty good at getting them the possessions. With their defense giving up fewer than 5 goals per game, they are pretty stout as well. Hopefully the game vs NL will be live streamed.

I actually think 91's offense and time of possession is their best defense.... I consider their D average at very best. But when your O is scoring 15+ a game - who cares? lol

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"91 is a machine offensively"

Agree - they have a lot of depth (I think at least 7 different players scored in our game) and spread out opposing defense making it look easy.

Looks like they are also a defensive powerhouse with less than 5 goals a game. Any take on that? Is it mostly because they can keep the ball on their side of the field?

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Team 91 6:0 Average Goal Differential +10.6

Still the team to beat. Can anyone give them some competition? They have won every game by at least 7 goals. NL and True still on the schedule.
Next Level Blue 4:1 AGD +4.8
Looking strong and could give 91 some competition next week. AGD could be inflated since they have 3 tough teams still on the schedule. Also their only loss is FCA's only win.
DC Express Black 3:2 AGD +0.4
They have the closest game against 91 so far and only other loss was to NL in a crazy competitive game
Crabs 3:3 AGD -2.6
Got off to a slow start but have won 3 of the past 4 games and lost to Express by one goal this week. AGD is negative but they have played 91 but not Looneys yet
Annapolis Hawks Green 3:3 AGD +1
Not sure what's happening here some competitive games and some decisive victories
True Annapolis Green 2:2 AGD +0.5
Have only played 4 games so need to see more for a read. AGD is probably inflated since they have played Looneys but not 91 yet.
Madlax Capital 2:3 AGD -1.6
Had a tough early schedule and a strong team . Also haven't played Looneys
FCA 1:5 AGD -3.2
Much better than their record IMO - playing some strong and tight games and beat NL - still have Looneys
Looney's 0:5 AGD -11
Not really looking like an elite division team. They have lost by at least 7 goals in every game (I guess that balances out 91)


With the exception of Looney's, the modern day MIAA. I'd have to arguably say that the other 8 are 8 of the top 20-25 in the country hands down... kudos to the Mid-Atlantic.

91 is a machine offensively

I've watched of couple of 91's games when our guys played either before or after. They are really good offensively, seem to dominate on time of possession while averaging almost 15 goals per game. They just wear down opposing defenses. And the face off guy is pretty good at getting them the possessions. With their defense giving up fewer than 5 goals per game, they are pretty stout as well. Hopefully the game vs NL will be live streamed.

I actually think 91's offense and time of possession is their best defense.... I consider their D average at very best. But when your O is scoring 15+ a game - who cares? lol

I've seen every team this season to this point. My team defense rankings:

1. Madlax
2. 91
3. DC Express
4. Hawks
5. Next Level
6. Crabs
7. True Annapolis
8. FCA
9. Looney's

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I've seen every team this season to this point. My team defense rankings:

1. Madlax
2. 91
3. DC Express
4. Hawks
5. Next Level
6. Crabs
7. True Annapolis
8. FCA
9. Looney's

How do you evaluate the defense? I'm not throwing shade - I'm honestly trying to learn the game better. I'm an analyst so going by the numbers I would look at Total Goals given up, average goals against, and then probably % of games where they give up a lot of goals (win or lose). I'll choose 10 since it gives us a nice data distribution.

So even if you throw out the teams who haven't played 91 Madlax is only 4th of 7 - again based on the data.

How are you ranking them first? Is it based on how they play together? I know it's hard to quantify team work. Or how they "ride" or "body" or "hands" (things I hear people scream at the defense). I know there are other things at play - for instance the 91 offense makes the 91 defense look good statistically. I'm guessing a weak goalie could make a strong D look worse or vice versa.

     (Tot)  (GA avg).  (% of games where opponents score 10+ goals)
1 91_____  29   4.8    0%
2 express_  35   7.0    20%
3 NL*_____ 35  7.0     20%
4 TRUE*__  30  7.5     50%
5 hawks__   51  8.5     50%
6 madlax__  49  9.8    60%
7 crabs___   65  10.8.   50%
8 fca_____   72  12.0.   67%
9 looneys_   69  13.8.   80%

*haven't played 91 yet so may skew the data

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I've seen every team this season to this point. My team defense rankings:

1. Madlax
2. 91
3. DC Express
4. Hawks
5. Next Level
6. Crabs
7. True Annapolis
8. FCA
9. Looney's

How do you evaluate the defense? I'm not throwing shade - I'm honestly trying to learn the game better. I'm an analyst so going by the numbers I would look at Total Goals given up, average goals against, and then probably % of games where they give up a lot of goals (win or lose). I'll choose 10 since it gives us a nice data distribution.

So even if you throw out the teams who haven't played 91 Madlax is only 4th of 7 - again based on the data.

How are you ranking them first? Is it based on how they play together? I know it's hard to quantify team work. Or how they "ride" or "body" or "hands" (things I hear people scream at the defense). I know there are other things at play - for instance the 91 offense makes the 91 defense look good statistically. I'm guessing a weak goalie could make a strong D look worse or vice versa.

     (Tot)  (GA avg).  (% of games where opponents score 10+ goals)
1 91_____  29   4.8    0%
2 express_  35   7.0    20%
3 NL*_____ 35  7.0     20%
4 TRUE*__  30  7.5     50%
5 hawks__   51  8.5     50%
6 madlax__  49  9.8    60%
7 crabs___   65  10.8.   50%
8 fca_____   72  12.0.   67%
9 looneys_   69  13.8.   80%

*haven't played 91 yet so may skew the data

Teams haven't played the same number of games (e.g., 91 => 6, NL => 5, True => 4) so data is skewed even without considering who has played who. You would need a lot more statistics to be able to quantitatively evaluate each teams defense, which I doubt even each team is doing. So either way there is going to be some inherent bias in any ranking because you either are using a limited data set on teams with uneven schedules or its based on "look and feel" or "gut feeling". If you had enough data you could consider Attacking Possessions, Goals Scored per Attacking Possession, Man Down Defense Opportunities vs Man Down Goals Against.

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I can’t really see how the previous poster could rank MadLax above 91 at this point. 91 has only given up 29 goals in 6 games and MadLax has given up 49 through 5. They also beat MadLax 14-5 so e logic doesn’t make any sense here. Until someone can knock off the big dog 91 holds that #1 spot.

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Can anyone direct me on HoCo playoffs?
Do all teams in a grouping (E, AAA, AA etc) make it, or just the top 2/4/6 etc.?
Would the games be played over a weekend (Sat/Sun) or over 2 weekends (Sat/Sat)?

Thank You.

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Do all teams in a grouping (E, AAA, AA etc) make it, or just the top 2/4/6 etc.?
Would the games be played over a weekend (Sat/Sun) or over 2 weekends (Sat/Sat)?

Thank You.

As far as I know, all divisions have a playoff.

For format, our coach has us holding the weekend of the 15th for semi-finals on Saturday and championship (if you make it) on Sunday.

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Can anyone direct me on HoCo playoffs?
Do all teams in a grouping (E, AAA, AA etc) make it, or just the top 2/4/6 etc.?
Would the games be played over a weekend (Sat/Sun) or over 2 weekends (Sat/Sat)?

Thank You.

As far as I know, all divisions have a playoff.

For format, our coach has us holding the weekend of the 15th for semi-finals on Saturday and championship (if you make it) on Sunday.

So I assume that to mean with Semi & Final on the same weekend that it is only the top 4 in each division? 1v4 2v3 Sat and then winners on Sun? Anyone below 4 is see you next year?

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Can anyone direct me on HoCo playoffs?
Do all teams in a grouping (E, AAA, AA etc) make it, or just the top 2/4/6 etc.?
Would the games be played over a weekend (Sat/Sun) or over 2 weekends (Sat/Sat)?

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As far as I know, all divisions have a playoff.

For format, our coach has us holding the weekend of the 15th for semi-finals on Saturday and championship (if you make it) on Sunday.

So I assume that to mean with Semi & Final on the same weekend that it is only the top 4 in each division? 1v4 2v3 Sat and then winners on Sun? Anyone below 4 is see you next year?

What our coach told us is that the w/e of the 15th is a make up game weekend. Top 4 go to playoffs, semi's will be played on Fri 21st and Sat 22nd, championships on Sun 23rd.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Can anyone direct me on HoCo playoffs?
Do all teams in a grouping (E, AAA, AA etc) make it, or just the top 2/4/6 etc.?
Would the games be played over a weekend (Sat/Sun) or over 2 weekends (Sat/Sat)?

Thank You.

As far as I know, all divisions have a playoff.

For format, our coach has us holding the weekend of the 15th for semi-finals on Saturday and championship (if you make it) on Sunday.

So I assume that to mean with Semi & Final on the same weekend that it is only the top 4 in each division? 1v4 2v3 Sat and then winners on Sun? Anyone below 4 is see you next year?

In 2026, they are doing a play in where 4 plays 5 for the last spot. then that winner vs #1 and #2 vs #3.

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If that's true, then that sounds silly, unless there's a tie between the 4 and % seed!

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We can put this one to bed now since MadLax gave up 11 goals in a loss to the Hawks and 91 rolled again to beat Next Level 12-3. It’s not even close......

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2025 Elite Division Standings & Games (5/2-3)

Saturday
Team 91: 12 vs Next Level: 3
True: 9 vs DC Express: 4
Hawks: 11 vs Madlax: 10
FCA: 18 vs Looney's: 7

Sunday
Madlax: 3 vs DC Express: 2
Next Level: 10 vs True: 8 

Standings
 Team 91 7:0 - Playoff Lock
 Next Level Blue 5:2 - Playoff Lock
 Crabs 4:3 - TBD
 Annapolis Hawks Green 4:3 - TBD
 True Annapolis Green 3:3 - TBD
Madlax Capital 3:4 - TBD
 DC Express Black 3:4 - TBD  
 FCA 2:5 - Out
 Looney's 0:7 - Out

Some of the TBDs are long shots but I think there is still a chance

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