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B_O_T_C #322530 03/08/21 10:16 AM
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Let's all thank the wisdom of the NCAA with their reaction to grant every kid in college the 5th year of eligibility and to every high school kid for the next 4-5 years until this decision cycles through. Most of the teams played up to 8 games and 4 scrimmages last year while the high schools (NY) did not even have a practice. All of the D1 schools are getting in on the act of graduate students or 5th-year seniors transferring in and knocking the roster players down a rung on the depth chart. The next time you watch a college game on television take a look at the roster and see if you feel the same about the players and the game in general. This is akin to how the Olympics used to be when the Russians were playing with pros against our college students, no different here. It was bad enough with the holdbacks and double holdbacks, the NCAA needed to crush nearly any chance of an on-age kid competing in D1 as a freshman or sophomore. Lacrosse is a great sport being ruined by US Lacrosse, the NCAA, and families that have the means to game the system through loose rules. All I can say is that I don't feel the same watching a bunch of men running around purporting to be college kids.

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Anonymous #322540 03/08/21 11:18 AM
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Totally agree 💯 %. An on age high school kid will not stand a chance in college lacrosse. Lacrosse has always been like the wild Wild West. No rules. Leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

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Anonymous #322541 03/08/21 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Let's all thank the wisdom of the NCAA with their reaction to grant every kid in college the 5th year of eligibility and to every high school kid for the next 4-5 years until this decision cycles through. Most of the teams played up to 8 games and 4 scrimmages last year while the high schools (NY) did not even have a practice. All of the D1 schools are getting in on the act of graduate students or 5th-year seniors transferring in and knocking the roster players down a rung on the depth chart. The next time you watch a college game on television take a look at the roster and see if you feel the same about the players and the game in general. This is akin to how the Olympics used to be when the Russians were playing with pros against our college students, no different here. It was bad enough with the holdbacks and double holdbacks, the NCAA needed to crush nearly any chance of an on-age kid competing in D1 as a freshman or sophomore. Lacrosse is a great sport being ruined by US Lacrosse, the NCAA, and families that have the means to game the system through loose rules. All I can say is that I don't feel the same watching a bunch of men running around purporting to be college kids.

Then don't watch it. Pretty sure they will be just fine without you.

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Anonymous #322554 03/08/21 12:09 PM
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I agree, when I think of college aged kids, I think 18 to 23 year olds, not 21 year old Freshmen. College lacrosse does feel a little cheapened by having such old players. As for on age players at the high school and youth level, you will continue to see an onslaught of regrading from here on out, which in the end will only further the economic disparity in the sport. Not many parents can afford a 60k a year boarding school and not many parents can afford another year of college.

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Anonymous #322555 03/08/21 12:11 PM
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College lacrosse needs all the viewers they can get, the sport cannot afford to lose any viewership.

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Let's all thank the wisdom of the NCAA with their reaction to grant every kid in college the 5th year of eligibility and to every high school kid for the next 4-5 years until this decision cycles through. Most of the teams played up to 8 games and 4 scrimmages last year while the high schools (NY) did not even have a practice. All of the D1 schools are getting in on the act of graduate students or 5th-year seniors transferring in and knocking the roster players down a rung on the depth chart. The next time you watch a college game on television take a look at the roster and see if you feel the same about the players and the game in general. This is akin to how the Olympics used to be when the Russians were playing with pros against our college students, no different here. It was bad enough with the holdbacks and double holdbacks, the NCAA needed to crush nearly any chance of an on-age kid competing in D1 as a freshman or sophomore. Lacrosse is a great sport being ruined by US Lacrosse, the NCAA, and families that have the means to game the system through loose rules. All I can say is that I don't feel the same watching a bunch of men running around purporting to be college kids.

Then don't watch it. Pretty sure they will be just fine without you.

To be real, no one really watches college lacrosse or any other college sport other than football and basketball.

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Anonymous #322586 03/08/21 02:27 PM
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Let's all thank the wisdom of the NCAA with their reaction to grant every kid in college the 5th year of eligibility and to every high school kid for the next 4-5 years until this decision cycles through. Most of the teams played up to 8 games and 4 scrimmages last year while the high schools (NY) did not even have a practice. All of the D1 schools are getting in on the act of graduate students or 5th-year seniors transferring in and knocking the roster players down a rung on the depth chart. The next time you watch a college game on television take a look at the roster and see if you feel the same about the players and the game in general. This is akin to how the Olympics used to be when the Russians were playing with pros against our college students, no different here. It was bad enough with the holdbacks and double holdbacks, the NCAA needed to crush nearly any chance of an on-age kid competing in D1 as a freshman or sophomore. Lacrosse is a great sport being ruined by US Lacrosse, the NCAA, and families that have the means to game the system through loose rules. All I can say is that I don't feel the same watching a bunch of men running around purporting to be college kids.

Then don't watch it. Pretty sure they will be just fine without you.

To be real, no one really watches college lacrosse or any other college sport other than football and basketball.

Very true, a full slate of games this weekend, but College Softball was on. If you're unhappy with how the NCAA is working, the best solution is to complain incessantly on an anonymous lacrosse forum. I am sure it will get right to Mark Emmert.

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Anonymous #322634 03/08/21 10:27 PM
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Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

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A letter was sent to the NCAA addressing the knee-donk reaction to afford every student-athlete an additional year of eligibility with no regard to the 4-5 years of high school athletes left high and dry. The ripple effect is real and will take years to work through. No response from the NCAA, unlike this forum with some smart remarks from salty lax dads.

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Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

Hoping when state policy changes on outdoor gatherings on April 3rd that they allow at a minimum the parents of players to attend.

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B_O_T_C #322656 03/09/21 09:44 AM
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Unfortunately it is what it is. Plenty of 21 year old freshmen and 25 year old seniors. If your kid is on age 18 year old freshman he is competing against kids 6+ years older. Even many of his fellow freshmen will be 3 years older. It is all so crazy. Now add to that the extra year of eligibility nonsense and you can have 26-27 year old grad students on the roster. NCAA really made a mess of things by giving added eligibility to everyone on last year rosters. Freshmen have been hurt the most.

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Unfortunately it is what it is. Plenty of 21 year old freshmen and 25 year old seniors. If your kid is on age 18 year old freshman he is competing against kids 6+ years older. Even many of his fellow freshmen will be 3 years older. It is all so crazy. Now add to that the extra year of eligibility nonsense and you can have 26-27 year old grad students on the roster. NCAA really made a mess of things by giving added eligibility to everyone on last year rosters. Freshmen have been hurt the most.

Agreed it's crazy. I have a 17yo senior. We were watching a game this weekend. 3 of the offensive players were 6 year seniors, one was actually granted a 7th year.

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B_O_T_C #322672 03/09/21 10:25 AM
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When do kids start their jobs? I mean that’s why I’m sending my kids to college. Get your degree, then it’s the real world. I have it in my head, the real world starts at 22,23. Not 26,27.

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Anonymous #322688 03/09/21 11:08 AM
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Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

If you're an HS player. But if you're in college, maybe didn't get off the bench Freshman year, played 5-6 games Sophomore year, now you're a Junior and want a couple of seasons. Maybe last year was your senior year, first chance being the top dog, a season cut short. These young men worked incredibly hard to play. They deserve it. When your son gets into college, makes the team, you can have a say for all the HS kids out there coming up behind him. Otherwise, you have no clue.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Wow. Rough crowd. I agree with poster 100% as I have a Hs soph. Feeling the pain as welll. The NCAA jumped way too fast. Hurts many many more than it helps.

If you're an HS player. But if you're in college, maybe didn't get off the bench Freshman year, played 5-6 games Sophomore year, now you're a Junior and want a couple of seasons. Maybe last year was your senior year, first chance being the top dog, a season cut short. These young men worked incredibly hard to play. They deserve it. When your son gets into college, makes the team, you can have a say for all the HS kids out there coming up behind him. Otherwise, you have no clue.

Having a 2021 who will play D1 next year I do not agree with allowing a 5th year. However, I think about if my guy was already in college and I admit I would I be upset if they did not give a 5th year. I see both sides. It would be frustrating to loose a year. Unfortunately 2020 was a bad year for everyone. The solution created more problems and extended the problems into the future. Had they just left it alone the high school kids would have lost one season and college would have lost a season. We would be back to normal this year. May not be totally fair because losing a year of college is worse but both groups would have lost something special. Now college kids are made whole and the high school kids lost a year of high school and will have over crowded college rosters competing against older players over the next few years. Don't forget this situation left less scholarship money for all involved this year and moving into the future. They should have left everything alone and did nothing. But I see the point in allowing the 5th year. It would have been much better had they increased the scholarship money. Had they done that it would have been easier for all to live with the decision.

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