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Re: Long Island Top Guns Lacrosse
Anonymous #298835 02/03/20 12:19 PM
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Has nothing to do with how he treated any individual kid, it was his poor behavior as an adult around youth and children. His language, his perverted comments in front of young players, his sexual overtures to other female (college age and recent hS grad) and inappropriate comments again within the ear shot of children. Also his drunken (or alcohol smelling hung over) behavior at tournament sites. Sorry Ms.Smith you should of straightened you son out when he was kicked out of Tampa, but you didn’t.


Hopefully none of your family members will ever make poor decisions, struggle with addiction, or find themselves in serious trouble. However, it is said that Karma is a [ChillLaxin]... The man in question and his family are most certainly dealing with the consequences of his actions and behavior and I feel for them. Your cowardly attack on an anonymous forum will not go unpunished. I hope that it is not one of your loved ones who ultimately has to pay the price for your lack of empathy and callousness.

Kharma is a B*****, and yes that is what is going on with him, all the underhanded deeds coming back to them. There is so much you don't know. Shannon and Bill have lied and stolen, cheated people out of what was their property and intellectual property. Andrew, has been running loose and fast for years unchecked. The Smiths had taken advantage of the West Babylon Schools and their relationships with board members to line their pockets using the public's facilities where as other exact same organizations had been denied. Dirty Deeds... Kharma. Just because you sip the kool aide and look through your rose colored glasses doesn't make them good people.

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Re: Long Island Top Guns Lacrosse
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If half of what people are saying is true then he has no business being around middle school and teenage girls. Not fir nothin but are you really going to trust that theses guys are going to do the right thing by your kid with college when talking to the coach when they are only out for themselves. Look at guys line Steve levy or carol rose, I would say coaches will listen to them over the shady smiths.

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Anonymous #298853 02/03/20 10:39 PM
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Has nothing to do with how he treated any individual kid, it was his poor behavior as an adult around youth and children. His language, his perverted comments in front of young players, his sexual overtures to other female (college age and recent hS grad) and inappropriate comments again within the ear shot of children. Also his drunken (or alcohol smelling hung over) behavior at tournament sites. Sorry Ms.Smith you should of straightened you son out when he was kicked out of Tampa, but you didn’t.


Hopefully none of your family members will ever make poor decisions, struggle with addiction, or find themselves in serious trouble. However, it is said that Karma is a [ChillLaxin]... The man in question and his family are most certainly dealing with the consequences of his actions and behavior and I feel for them. Your cowardly attack on an anonymous forum will not go unpunished. I hope that it is not one of your loved ones who ultimately has to pay the price for your lack of empathy and callousness.


So if he has such an “addiction “. Why the heck is he coaching youth girls lacrosse ???

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Powderfinger #298857 02/04/20 04:33 AM
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If this is true about the top guns then why did you leave your daughter under his supervision. Not for nothin but you have to get your priorities in order.

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Powderfinger #298910 02/04/20 09:47 PM
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Never thought a lot about karma but you got a point. He developed an overinflated ego and thought he was above it all. He always pimps out spots on the underarm our roster for those who pay to train with him. Kids and families got screwed. Life and karma a beetch. He your daughter far away from this sheeet.

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Anonymous #298926 02/05/20 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Has nothing to do with how he treated any individual kid, it was his poor behavior as an adult around youth and children. His language, his perverted comments in front of young players, his sexual overtures to other female (college age and recent hS grad) and inappropriate comments again within the ear shot of children. Also his drunken (or alcohol smelling hung over) behavior at tournament sites. Sorry Ms.Smith you should of straightened you son out when he was kicked out of Tampa, but you didn’t.


Hopefully none of your family members will ever make poor decisions, struggle with addiction, or find themselves in serious trouble. However, it is said that Karma is a [ChillLaxin]... The man in question and his family are most certainly dealing with the consequences of his actions and behavior and I feel for them. Your cowardly attack on an anonymous forum will not go unpunished. I hope that it is not one of your loved ones who ultimately has to pay the price for your lack of empathy and callousness.


So if he has such an “addiction “. Why the heck is he coaching youth girls lacrosse ???


I know and like the guy, do not like what he did. As of right now he is listed as an Under Armour coach for underclass All American team Long Island. I wonder if this incident gets him dropped by Under Armour? He certainly made a big mistake and will be paying for it professionally, both law enforcement and lacrosse wise. Hopefully he learns from it, becomes better moving forward. Everyone deserves a second chance.

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Anonymous #298927 02/05/20 02:27 PM
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Never thought a lot about karma but you got a point. He developed an overinflated ego and thought he was above it all. He always pimps out spots on the underarm our roster for those who pay to train with him. Kids and families got screwed. Life and karma a beetch. He your daughter far away from this sheeet.


Not a bad kid but never was able to handle that his sister was the best player on the planet while he was a middle of the pack D2 player. Seems like he's abused authority along the way to overcompensate.

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If this is true about the top guns then why did you leave your daughter under his supervision. Not for nothin but you have to get your priorities in order.

Left the year after an inappropriate situation was witnessed by my daughter and several others. Bill Smith did nothing about it, except said he would take care of it. Next morning, we thought Bill sent Andrew home because he wasn't at the first game, only to show up stinking and hungover. Was very surprised to even hear he got on the police force knowing the trouble he had in Tampa.

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Powderfinger #299042 02/10/20 06:07 AM
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What happened in Tampa?

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What happened in Tampa?

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Powderfinger #318933 01/20/21 12:41 PM
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question.
what do you think about training with different coaches who are in different clubs? I know there are plenty of kids that do it. Different training I would think only helps.
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Anonymous #318941 01/20/21 04:21 PM
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what do you think about training with different coaches who are in different clubs? I know there are plenty of kids that do it. Different training I would think only helps.
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you would think but its frowned upon

there was a case on the 2025 thread were four girls from the janelli team got caught training with shannon smith and it became a whole big thing. i heard they ended up denying it even thorough a bunch of people saw them their.

they almost got thrown off the team so I’d be careful

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Anonymous #319001 01/21/21 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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question.
what do you think about training with different coaches who are in different clubs? I know there are plenty of kids that do it. Different training I would think only helps.
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you would think but its frowned upon

there was a case on the 2025 thread were four girls from the janelli team got caught training with shannon smith and it became a whole big thing. i heard they ended up denying it even thorough a bunch of people saw them their.

they almost got thrown off the team so I’d be careful

But why would it matter who the kid trains with, if they are coming back to their travel team well trained? Are travel coaches that insecure? Can entire programs be sabotaged by outside training ? Sounds like a problem with coaches ego.
Parents should be allowed to utilize any trainer for their kid they think will help their child become a better player.

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Powderfinger #319079 01/23/21 12:14 PM
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top guns been dong that for years. coach Andrew used to do to do it before he embarrassed himself on news12.

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Anonymous #319174 01/25/21 09:18 AM
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[quote=Anonymous]question.
what do you think about training with different coaches who are in different clubs? I know there are plenty of kids that do it. Different training I would think only helps.
thoughts

you would think but its frowned upon

there was a case on the 2025 thread were four girls from the janelli team got caught training with shannon smith and it became a whole big thing. i heard they ended up denying it even thorough a bunch of people saw them their.

they almost got thrown off the team so I’d be careful

But why would it matter who the kid trains with, if they are coming back to their travel team well trained? Are travel coaches that insecure? Can entire programs be sabotaged by outside training ? Sounds like a problem with coaches ego.
Parents should be allowed to utilize any trainer for their kid they think will help their child become a better player.

Clubs are concerned with their players getting poached by trainers from competing clubs. It happens all the time.

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