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Re: Westchester NY Youth Lacrosse
Anonymous #316357 11/29/20 09:19 AM
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Westchester families need to know that the Predators are now TOP travel lacrosse program in the area. Get off the PT train and come to top class program, run by former Yorktown greats. Most of the teams coaches are HS coaches and educators. They build the program organically and love to develop their players, not cut them for bigger and better holdbacks.


Preds 2023 lost in OT to Express North 2023 B team on Nov. 8th at SUNY Purchase. Fact.

which team? They have 2 teams. an A team and a B (black) team[/quote]
Preds develop players?
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what do you attribute the drop off to? its not just yorktown- John jay is struggling with numbers from high school to youth

John Jay I think is attributed to the fact that the head coach likes a short bench and players want to play. Also, a lot of the team historically was Primetime as youth players who eventually got cut as late middle school and HS players so they stopped playing. The Assistant coach is PT head. Look at the make up of PT youth versus the PT HS teams. PT youth has many John Jay kids versus a few on the HS travel teams. Unfortuately many of these boys look at PT as the only team worth playing as they get older since they played with them at the younger age and stop playing. This has been happening for a few years now.

Westchester families need to know that the Predators are now TOP travel lacrosse program in the area. Get off the PT train and come to top class program, run by former Yorktown greats. Most of the teams coaches are HS coaches and educators. They build the program organically and love to develop their players, not cut them for bigger and better holdbacks.

Not a Preds parent but friends complain that one of the biggest challenges they have with Preds is that all the organizers and coaches have professional careers and have lacrosse coaching around 5th on their to do list (well behind playing golf and far behind being pompous buttheade$.) Developing players doesn't even make the list.

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Re: Westchester NY Youth Lacrosse
B_O_T_C #316376 11/29/20 05:19 PM
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Predators have two 2023 teams. The second one is called 2023 Black. The first one does not have any unique name other than 2023. The Black team is a good competitive team. Just does not compete at the level that the 2023 team does.

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Anonymous #316378 11/29/20 06:29 PM
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Predators have two 2023 teams. The second one is called 2023 Black. The first one does not have any unique name other than 2023. The Black team is a good competitive team. Just does not compete at the level that the 2023 team does.

Very interesting that 2W also utilizes the "Black" for the second level team. Their top tier teams in four grades are called "Carolina".

Does anyone want to make a bet that they change the name from "black" to something else due to the racial injustice movement?

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B_O_T_C #316397 11/30/20 08:25 AM
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My son has been on PrimeTime for a number of years. What I like is that they have only one team at each grade level and the organization is fully committed to those players. The program director knows each player and family. There is no money grab secondary team distractions like many other programs. Yes, rosters are more fluid at the younger grades, but stabilize at the high school level with few roster changes in those years. It is much harder to crack the roster at the HS level.

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Anonymous #316469 12/01/20 07:50 AM
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My son has been on PrimeTime for a number of years. What I like is that they have only one team at each grade level and the organization is fully committed to those players. The program director knows each player and family. There is no money grab secondary team distractions like many other programs. Yes, rosters are more fluid at the younger grades, but stabilize at the high school level with few roster changes in those years. It is much harder to crack the roster at the HS level.

I agree. 1 team keeps things cleaner, higher end, and better for organization focus. B teams can make kids feel like they are minor leaguers, they are no fools. But I think by high school age, the B team players are really playing because they love the sport and want to play more rather than only playing in their HS spring season. Or, in covid, B team play is the only way they get to play at all.

2Way started B teams because their popularity grew so much. I think Preds was gonna fold their 2023 B team but the players rallied to keep it going. Express North B team does well on numbers. i don't think any of those clubs feel having B teams hurts them but it does likely add a layer of work and complication but easily outweighed by some money and kids content to rep the team colors everywhere.

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Re: Westchester NY Youth Lacrosse
Anonymous #316503 12/01/20 01:35 PM
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My son has been on PrimeTime for a number of years. What I like is that they have only one team at each grade level and the organization is fully committed to those players. The program director knows each player and family. There is no money grab secondary team distractions like many other programs. Yes, rosters are more fluid at the younger grades, but stabilize at the high school level with few roster changes in those years. It is much harder to crack the roster at the HS level.
Couldn't agree more. My son was on PT from the fourth grade through graduation and he absolutely loved it. My experience was that it was as well run an organization you could ask for and the coaching was top notch.

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Anonymous #316990 12/08/20 08:39 PM
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2Way Black is the AA team as Carolina is the A team.

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Anonymous #317540 12/16/20 11:45 AM
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While people in this forum have talked about the decline Y and to get a bit of perspective on Y, i recent found the following article in the NYT from 1981 about lax in Westchester:

LACROSSE BOOMING AT HIGH SCHOOLS https://www.nytimes.com/1981/04/26/nyre ... ools.html (https://www.nytimes.com/1981/04/26/nyregion/lacrosse-booming-at-high-schools.html)

Several interesting points are mentioned, but Y's competition in 1981 was Mamaroneck, Greeley WP, Fox Lane and Croton. None of these programs have reached the level of Y and they all have been around since the formation of Westchester lax.

Lets give Y the respect they deserve in setting the bar and maintaining a consistent program over 50 years!

FYI, the article was found in the reinvented laxpower forums. Also, i'm not from Y, but I've been involved in Westchester lax since 1984 and i know Y remains the top program in section 1.

You might be a little out of touch with current reality. Ytown has lost its leadership and along with it, its enviable team play and superiority. Once its gone, very hard to get back.

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Anonymous #317566 12/16/20 09:09 PM
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Stop with the nonsense of Yorktown being so great. Reality is that last year they were worse than John Jay, Mamaroneck, and Rye. In the future, Rye, Mamaroneck and even teams like Bronxville will be better, with more young talent than Yorktown.

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B_O_T_C #317638 12/18/20 08:51 PM
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Why all the Y bashing? How about we give them credit for running a youth program that a lot of towns have modeled. Yorktown is mostly a blue collar town and parents do not have the resources to have their kids play on an elite travel team, The sport has evolved greatly since the 80,s and 90,s.
Kids these days are much better athletes. There was no such thing as speed and agility training back then. There is no doubt that other programs have caught up and possibly over taken Yorktown, but 1 or 2 mediocre seasons cannot take away years of success.

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Anonymous #318720 01/13/21 11:56 AM
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Stop with the nonsense of Yorktown being so great. Reality is that last year they were worse than John Jay, Mamaroneck, and Rye. In the future, Rye, Mamaroneck and even teams like Bronxville will be better, with more young talent than Yorktown.
Yorktown has had the better players but has been out coached in recent years. Watch the last two Section finals, especially the most recent or just ask the JJ coaches, they will tell you. I am a long time Yorktown resident.

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Anonymous #318760 01/14/21 11:31 AM
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Stop with the nonsense of Yorktown being so great. Reality is that last year they were worse than John Jay, Mamaroneck, and Rye. In the future, Rye, Mamaroneck and even teams like Bronxville will be better, with more young talent than Yorktown.
Yorktown has had the better players but has been out coached in recent years. Watch the last two Section finals, especially the most recent or just ask the JJ coaches, they will tell you. I am a long time Yorktown resident.

I agree with this sentiment and Rye and Mamaroneck should be dominant this year. The traditional powerhouses just don't have the same talent anymore. I cant speak for Yorktown but if you look at John Jay for years they were sending 5-10 kids a year to D1 and top D2 and D3 programs yearly. Last year they had one D1 commit and this year they have a one D1 commit as well. The 2022 class has zero commits to date. Eventually I am sure they will have a commit or two but the bottom line is in years past they has many players go on to top schools. Maybe its a temporary blip but times are a changing and the traditional powerhouses will be relying more on coaching if they don't have the talent..

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Anonymous #318778 01/14/21 07:03 PM
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Just a quick reminder, John Jay was in The state finals last lacrosse season and Yorktown beat Mamaroneck approx 9-6.
Lots more parity in the section but why the all or nothing comments

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Anonymous #318780 01/14/21 08:32 PM
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Yorktown beat Rye that same season 8-4 and lost to JJ 7-6 after hitting 5 posts in the 2nd half of the sectional final
Important to keep some perspective

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Anonymous #318859 01/18/21 07:56 PM
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Just a quick reminder, John Jay was in The state finals last lacrosse season and Yorktown beat Mamaroneck approx 9-6.
Lots more parity in the section but why the all or nothing comments

Agreed. For Yorktown to even play and beat these teams in competitive games may be doom and gloom for Ytown but until south westchester actually win a game, it's forum talk.

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