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Re: 2020-2021 Women's College Lacrosse Season
TheBackOfTheCage #312633 10/20/20 01:38 PM
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A vey interesting article from the Atlantic regarding "Country Club Sports" ( including Lacrosse) in college:

A bit of a long read but very well done, towards the end of it the author provides an interesting theory on why Stanford dropped 11 varsity sports earlier this year ( and it isn't financial)

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...che-sports-ivy-league-admissions/616474/

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Re: 2020-2021 Women's College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #312635 10/20/20 01:50 PM
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Nice try. I know several college All Americans that are incredible players that applied and did not get an invite. The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA. There are always politics in sports but this is about the worse I have ever seen.

I agree that the selection is a bit off... that said, "The Stony Brook player was not even a high school AA" ... I am pretty sure she was named to the Under Armour Senior Girls All-American Team.



Ohhhh. HS AA means something when they are playing in college. And there you have it. On many a threads the player bio seems to mean something. So that’s why we are where we are when it comes down to selecting UA teams and HS AA. When you distill it down, the same few (mainly 1 person) gets to stack those teams[/b[b]] with marginal players from her team/org who then pack their player bio’s with nonsense. What garbage.
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Well the kid your think is undeserving played for Top Guns.. so I guess that spoils that theory[u]

Huh. Wake up. You seem very defensive. The quote is about the whole selection process from UA Command, UA Highlight to HS AA etc. There is a common thread to who gets selected and the majority are picked from certain High schools whose coaches are part of YJ and players from YJ and this allows marginal players to pack their bio’s with nonsense

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Anonymous #312642 10/20/20 02:24 PM
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It’s bad enough JS politics gave this unearned, undeserving hand out at the expense of many other actually earning it! To listen to anyone defend it is just dense. The only thing this kid ever earned was being asked to play for Spallina. She did nothing in high school but ride the coattails her junior year from their star player being face guarded! That is her one lacrosse accolade. What has she done? Nothing. She was a no name who earned nothing at Under Armour except for the hand out of senior year when she did not play and they GAVE HER the Senior UA All-American! So stop the BS and just call it like it is. The biggest political BS move in US lacrosse history. That is more acceptable than to listen to you try and defend it. Disgrace. Just stop already! This is a joke.

Wow, a lot of anger. I have not read a single post defending this selection. I guess you must be one of those delusional parents who just can’t stand it when other players are considered stronger than your daughter by people other than you. Why attack the player? Most rational people understand that the player didn’t do anything wrong. Complain all you want about the coaches or USLacrosse but show a little class and stop trying to tear down a 17 or 18 year old college freshman on an anonymous forum.

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It’s bad enough JS politics gave this unearned, undeserving hand out at the expense of many other actually earning it! To listen to anyone defend it is just dense. The only thing this kid ever earned was being asked to play for Spallina. She did nothing in high school but ride the coattails her junior year from their star player being face guarded! That is her one lacrosse accolade. What has she done? Nothing. She was a no name who earned nothing at Under Armour except for the hand out of senior year when she did not play and they GAVE HER the Senior UA All-American! So stop the BS and just call it like it is. The biggest political BS move in US lacrosse history. That is more acceptable than to listen to you try and defend it. Disgrace. Just stop already! This is a joke.

He’s always been that way! I agree that there is absolutely no way a girl who has yet to play a college game should be trying out for this type of team!! How many HS AAs have gone to college to never be heard from again. D1 is a total different animal. Even the #1 HS recruit, CW, who in my opinion is overrated, was not put on this list. Prove yourself in college before getting this type of opportunity. Plenty of other girls have, but unfortunately won’t get a chance due to sleazy politics. Disgusting!

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Anonymous #312651 10/20/20 03:30 PM
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Excellent player? You don't get to just call a kid an excellent player because Spallina tells us to. You earn it. What has she earned? She hasn't played since junior year high school where she earned nothing accolades and earned nothing at under armour either (the Senior UA title that was a hand out based on an invisible season). Since her days of playing lacrosse earning nothing, what has she proven by not stepping on a field? Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Watching people try and defend it is as big a problem as the BS reason she was asked to try out.

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It’s bad enough JS politics gave this unearned, undeserving hand out at the expense of many other actually earning it! To listen to anyone defend it is just dense. The only thing this kid ever earned was being asked to play for Spallina. She did nothing in high school but ride the coattails her junior year from their star player being face guarded! That is her one lacrosse accolade. What has she done? Nothing. She was a no name who earned nothing at Under Armour except for the hand out of senior year when she did not play and they GAVE HER the Senior UA All-American! So stop the BS and just call it like it is. The biggest political BS move in US lacrosse history. That is more acceptable than to listen to you try and defend it. Disgrace. Just stop already! This is a joke.

He’s always been that way! I agree that there is absolutely no way a girl who has yet to play a college game should be trying out for this type of team!! How many HS AAs have gone to college to never be heard from again. D1 is a total different animal. Even the #1 HS recruit, CW, who in my opinion is overrated, was not put on this list. Prove yourself in college before getting this type of opportunity. Plenty of other girls have, but unfortunately won’t get a chance due to sleazy politics. Disgusting!

Just sign your name isn’t hard to tel who this is How is the weather on the east end

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Anonymous #312656 10/20/20 03:56 PM
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I'm sure she's a good kid but with no accolades. That's just a fact, not an attack. Correct us and enlighten us all with what she has done in her lacrosse career to earn this. Can't find anything.

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I'm sure she's a good kid but with no accolades. That's just a fact, not an attack. Correct us and enlighten us all with what she has done in her lacrosse career to earn this. Can't find anything.

Its just a try-out, give the kid a chance..lets see how she does?

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Excellent player? You don't get to just call a kid an excellent player because Spallina tells us to. You earn it. What has she earned? She hasn't played since junior year high school where she earned nothing accolades and earned nothing at under armour either (the Senior UA title that was a hand out based on an invisible season). Since her days of playing lacrosse earning nothing, what has she proven by not stepping on a field? Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Watching people try and defend it is as big a problem as the BS reason she was asked to try out.

Give it a rest already, or put your name on it if you are going to continue to diminish the player and her accomplishments. Not a single post has tried to defend the selection. You on the other hand want to tear down a specific player.

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Anonymous #312661 10/20/20 04:31 PM
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It’s bad enough JS politics gave this unearned, undeserving hand out at the expense of many other actually earning it! To listen to anyone defend it is just dense. The only thing this kid ever earned was being asked to play for Spallina. She did nothing in high school but ride the coattails her junior year from their star player being face guarded! That is her one lacrosse accolade. What has she done? Nothing. She was a no name who earned nothing at Under Armour except for the hand out of senior year when she did not play and they GAVE HER the Senior UA All-American! So stop the BS and just call it like it is. The biggest political BS move in US lacrosse history. That is more acceptable than to listen to you try and defend it. Disgrace. Just stop already! This is a joke.

He’s always been that way! I agree that there is absolutely no way a girl who has yet to play a college game should be trying out for this type of team!! How many HS AAs have gone to college to never be heard from again. D1 is a total different animal. Even the #1 HS recruit, CW, who in my opinion is overrated, was not put on this list. Prove yourself in college before getting this type of opportunity. Plenty of other girls have, but unfortunately won’t get a chance due to sleazy politics. Disgusting!

Just sign your name isn’t hard to tel who this is How is the weather on the east end


i was thinking the same thing!

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TheBackOfTheCage #312664 10/20/20 04:38 PM
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". BTW, UA Senior All American is the top honor for HS players and it is based off the summer circuit as that is where the most competitive HS lacrosse is played."

Completely inaccurate ,it is based primarily on high school play which is the reason they ask for high school stats .

"Wow, a lot of anger. I have not read a single post defending this selection. I guess you must be one of those delusional parents who just can’t stand it when other players are considered stronger than your daughter by people other than you. Why attack the player? Most rational people understand that the player didn’t do anything wrong. Complain all you want about the coaches or USLacrosse but show a little class and stop trying to tear down a 17 or 18 year old college freshman on an anonymous forum."

Of course people are angry and your nonsense about jealousy makes no sense when even you say no one is defending the selection. Although no one should attack the player ( she gets some of the blame as she applied and I guarantee knew the fix was in ) it is impossible to discuss how sleazy this selection was without pointing out she has little to no actual accolades. Again Spallina has stolen the spot from someone who has proven themselves in college and it is politics at its worst. Hopefully someone will post a contact at US lacrosse so its members can expres how disgusted they are , honestly Spalina should be removed from ever being involved again.

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Anonymous #312665 10/20/20 04:41 PM
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I'm sure she's a good kid but with no accolades. That's just a fact, not an attack. Correct us and enlighten us all with what she has done in her lacrosse career to earn this. Can't find anything.

What is wrong with you? Why attack the kid? She didn't select herself. If you want to call out JS and the rest of the people involved in the selection process feel free but enough with the nonsense. BTW, you say no accolades I am certain that she was named Under Armour Senior All American. That does not entitle anyone to make this tryout but pretty sure her and the other 43 players are all pretty darn good. This argument should not be focussed on the player, anyone with half a brain knows where the attention should be directed.

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Anonymous #312669 10/20/20 04:55 PM
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I'm sure she's a good kid but with no accolades. That's just a fact, not an attack. Correct us and enlighten us all with what she has done in her lacrosse career to earn this. Can't find anything.

You won't. There isn't anything! Wish her well in college, but she is not worthy of this at this time.

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TheBackOfTheCage #312674 10/20/20 06:02 PM
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UA Senior All American selections have never been about High School Play. It is all based of the Club Summer circuit and in recent years since the "Underclass Games" and even The Committed Academy. They start announcing the players in the beginning of April so they already know how is making the team (well before HS season is complete). The main person who evaluates players is the same person who takes point on the IL Player rankings (there is always a very strong correlation between IL Senior rankings and Under Armour AA selections). All of the evaluations are done in the summer at the major tournaments and at the IL underclass games where players can be seen competing against the best players from around the country. Go back and check, If a player is ranked in the Top 40 by IL there is a very good chance they will be selected as an UA AA.

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TheBackOfTheCage #312680 10/20/20 07:11 PM
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Funny , not old or mature enough to face some criticism but old enough to be unfairly selected to try out for a women’s team .

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