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Anyone who has not played the Crabs this fall is in for a surprise. They are not the same team from last year. They added a handful holdbacks from the 2025 Crabs team. The fact that the Hawks beat them without much of a roster change speaks volumes to the Hawks team. It was a good game. It was a game people around watching were commenting about. It was a physical. If your team is set up to play the Crabs, you should be prepared, they lost 2 face offs, max.

I did not see much in terms of physicality in this game. Well played lacrosse and the FO kid for crabs is good but is gassed by the 2nd half; they need a #2 FO to win games like this. Hawks defense is surprisingly small and if the crabs had any talent on attack outside of #50 they would have won this game. #21 on crabs is their only real threat up top.

Hawks goaltending is very good; but weak at defense otherwise. They have a couple of big attackman but I was surprised they had trouble running past a very slow crabs defense. What makes hawks better than other teams is they simply do not drop the ball and turn it over. They are very good at getting the lose ball leading to more possessions and their midfield my be the best around; very good ball movement. Hawks is clearly the #1 team but the gap is definitely closing.


For 12-13 year old 7th graders they are pretty big for on age. Now for the 14-15 year old 7th graders that Crabs has yes the look pretty small. Facts

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Yes - good games this weekend. One of the better tournaments. Hawks are the best team still but looked beatable. They were missing one of their big attackmen. Still not sure what Mesa was doing in this mix.

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Where's the Crabs dad that said Hawks would get beat on Sunday? Let's hear the excuses

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What happened to BLC? Please don't say injury's. This used to be one of the top teams around.

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Anyone who has not played the Crabs this fall is in for a surprise. They are not the same team from last year. They added a handful holdbacks from the 2025 Crabs team. The fact that the Hawks beat them without much of a roster change speaks volumes to the Hawks team. It was a good game. It was a game people around watching were commenting about. It was a physical. If your team is set up to play the Crabs, you should be prepared, they lost 2 face offs, max.
Thanks Crabs f/o dad. Everyone who watched them play in the fall league knows they added 2025 players from the their own 2025 team. Gotta do what ya gotta do to win.
For what it is worth, I spoke in the parking lot briefly with the Crabs f/o Dad and the player after my son's team played against them and he did not seem the type to come on this board and brag about his son's f/o accomplishments. I could be totally wrong but I am generally a good judge of stuff like that.

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Hawks / Crabs game was good - Battle of the Holdbacks

There are 9 kids on the Crabs walking in to the same grade this year as they did last year. That is a complete embarrassment. They better win everything for those parents to sell their souls that badly.

If this confirmed? I heard that Bethesda's roster is nearly 1/2 holdbacks. If so, they may need a few more.

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What happened to BLC? Please don't say injury's. This used to be one of the top teams around.
Not a BLC parent and I did not see the games, but I don't think anything "happened" to BLC. They went 0-3 against Hawks, Crabs, and Looneys, one of which has always been dominant, and two of which became dominant this fall due to roster upgrades. All three would be in the top 6-7 nationally (if not higher) if a new ranking were done today. Aside from Looney's one goal loss to VLC yesterday, I don't think that Hawks, Crabs, or Looneys have lost a single game to anybody besides each other since their fall upgrades. Bethesda (who does have some injuries, by the way, ) is a legitimate top 10-15 team nationally, but there is no shame nor surprise that Bethesda played those three teams in one day and went winless.

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VLC kids played strong against Loonies. They knew Loonies would be tough competition. Then took it easy on Mesa thinking it was an easy win. I think VLC beat them by 8 goals in Summer Exposure. Got a wakeup call there. Crabs FoGo is a good player. Not a holdback. #21 and #50 are new. Holdbacks maybe? Regardless, they are a good team and will be tough competition for everyone in coming seasons.

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Anyone who has not played the Crabs this fall is in for a surprise. They are not the same team from last year. They added a handful holdbacks from the 2025 Crabs team. The fact that the Hawks beat them without much of a roster change speaks volumes to the Hawks team. It was a good game. It was a game people around watching were commenting about. It was a physical. If your team is set up to play the Crabs, you should be prepared, they lost 2 face offs, max.
Thanks Crabs f/o dad. Everyone who watched them play in the fall league knows they added 2025 players from the their own 2025 team. Gotta do what ya gotta do to win.
For what it is worth, I spoke in the parking lot briefly with the Crabs f/o Dad and the player after my son's team played against them and he did not seem the type to come on this board and brag about his son's f/o accomplishments. I could be totally wrong but I am generally a good judge of stuff like that.

I would hope most Crabs parents leave the field and parking rather quickly to avoid the embarrassment of having themselves and their kids running in to the team they played for the previous year or other 2025 parents asking what the heck they are doing on a 2026 team. That has to be one awkward conversation to have!!

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Anyone who has not played the Crabs this fall is in for a surprise. They are not the same team from last year. They added a handful holdbacks from the 2025 Crabs team. The fact that the Hawks beat them without much of a roster change speaks volumes to the Hawks team. It was a good game. It was a game people around watching were commenting about. It was a physical. If your team is set up to play the Crabs, you should be prepared, they lost 2 face offs, max.

I did not see much in terms of physicality in this game. Well played lacrosse and the FO kid for crabs is good but is gassed by the 2nd half; they need a #2 FO to win games like this. Hawks defense is surprisingly small and if the crabs had any talent on attack outside of #50 they would have won this game. #21 on crabs is their only real threat up top.

Hawks goaltending is very good; but weak at defense otherwise. They have a couple of big attackman but I was surprised they had trouble running past a very slow crabs defense. What makes hawks better than other teams is they simply do not drop the ball and turn it over. They are very good at getting the lose ball leading to more possessions and their midfield my be the best around; very good ball movement. Hawks is clearly the #1 team but the gap is definitely closing.


For 12-13 year old 7th graders they are pretty big for on age. Now for the 14-15 year old 7th graders that Crabs has yes the look pretty small. Facts

Has anyone seen the Looney's 3 defenders this Fall? They're all over 6 foot and I am supposed to believe these kids are on age? It is an absolute joke what youth lacrosse has turned in to!!!

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Bethesda is not setup for team lacrosse. A lot of selfish players on the team. Talented..but not TEAM players.

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Funny I haven't heard much from the 91 parents today. I am waiting to hear the excuses for going 2-2 up in Philly.

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Anyone who has not played the Crabs this fall is in for a surprise. They are not the same team from last year. They added a handful holdbacks from the 2025 Crabs team. The fact that the Hawks beat them without much of a roster change speaks volumes to the Hawks team. It was a good game. It was a game people around watching were commenting about. It was a physical. If your team is set up to play the Crabs, you should be prepared, they lost 2 face offs, max.
Thanks Crabs f/o dad. Everyone who watched them play in the fall league knows they added 2025 players from the their own 2025 team. Gotta do what ya gotta do to win.
For what it is worth, I spoke in the parking lot briefly with the Crabs f/o Dad and the player after my son's team played against them and he did not seem the type to come on this board and brag about his son's f/o accomplishments. I could be totally wrong but I am generally a good judge of stuff like that.


I spoke with him after the game. Very nice guy and going to Gilman speaks highly of the young man off the field

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Anyone who has not played the Crabs this fall is in for a surprise. They are not the same team from last year. They added a handful holdbacks from the 2025 Crabs team. The fact that the Hawks beat them without much of a roster change speaks volumes to the Hawks team. It was a good game. It was a game people around watching were commenting about. It was a physical. If your team is set up to play the Crabs, you should be prepared, they lost 2 face offs, max.
Thanks Crabs f/o dad. Everyone who watched them play in the fall league knows they added 2025 players from the their own 2025 team. Gotta do what ya gotta do to win.
For what it is worth, I spoke in the parking lot briefly with the Crabs f/o Dad and the player after my son's team played against them and he did not seem the type to come on this board and brag about his son's f/o accomplishments. I could be totally wrong but I am generally a good judge of stuff like that.

You would be wrong....totally wrong.But then, this was probably him that wrote this.

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This is getting boring. Does anybody have new and interesting topics and please not holdbacks?

Fall HOCO tourney schedule is live. Crabs get their shot at Rage and his Delusional followers.

Okay, now I’m confused. Isn’t Rage referring to the Hawks coach? Hawks aren’t playing fall HoCo.

Fall tourney. Maryland Fall Tournament. They are there and will get beat by Crabs.

Good morning Crabs daddy.....

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Too bad Hawks and Looneys don't play...very disappointing.

Yes, very.......

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Spoke the Crabs FoGo dad at a different tournament. Seemed like a good guy and good kid. Don't think he is the one bragging. We all see who are good players in the field. #13 is a good player. Just like #22 at BLC, #5 and #22 of Hawks etc.

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Then took it easy on Mesa thinking it was an easy win. I think VLC beat them by 8 goals in Summer Exposure. Got a wakeup call there.

Guess VLC coaches have a reading comprehension problem. MESA (PA) didn't play in Summer Exposure. VLC played Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD), basically a rec team, in Summer Exposure.

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Crabs beat them 12-5 and Loonies beat them 9-3. MESA (PA) is not at par with the rest competing here.

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Bethesda is not setup for team lacrosse. A lot of selfish players on the team. Talented..but not TEAM players.

LOL Players or parents!!!

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Then took it easy on Mesa thinking it was an easy win. I think VLC beat them by 8 goals in Summer Exposure. Got a wakeup call there.

Guess VLC coaches have a reading comprehension problem. MESA (PA) didn't play in Summer Exposure. VLC played Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD), basically a rec team, in Summer Exposure.


Too bad you are the one with the misunderstanding.......
Mesa at Summer Exposure was the Mesa Pa team. Listed as the Severna Park team but every parent I spoke with on the sidelines was from the Philly area. It was Mesa Pa at summer exposure, not the SP team. The SP team had not even officially formed at the time.

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What happened to BLC? Please don't say injury's. This used to be one of the top teams around.
Not a BLC parent and I did not see the games, but I don't think anything "happened" to BLC. They went 0-3 against Hawks, Crabs, and Looneys, one of which has always been dominant, and two of which became dominant this fall due to roster upgrades. All three would be in the top 6-7 nationally (if not higher) if a new ranking were done today. Aside from Looney's one goal loss to VLC yesterday, I don't think that Hawks, Crabs, or Looneys have lost a single game to anybody besides each other since their fall upgrades. Bethesda (who does have some injuries, by the way, ) is a legitimate top 10-15 team nationally, but there is no shame nor surprise that Bethesda played those three teams in one day and went winless.

It wasn't that they went winless, they looked horrible doing it. Lacked skill at every single position on the field except for 1 defenseman.

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Too bad Hawks and Looneys don't play...very disappointing.

Yes, very.......

Would be 10-0 Hawks.

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Anyone who has not played the Crabs this fall is in for a surprise. They are not the same team from last year. They added a handful holdbacks from the 2025 Crabs team. The fact that the Hawks beat them without much of a roster change speaks volumes to the Hawks team. It was a good game. It was a game people around watching were commenting about. It was a physical. If your team is set up to play the Crabs, you should be prepared, they lost 2 face offs, max.
Thanks Crabs f/o dad. Everyone who watched them play in the fall league knows they added 2025 players from the their own 2025 team. Gotta do what ya gotta do to win.
For what it is worth, I spoke in the parking lot briefly with the Crabs f/o Dad and the player after my son's team played against them and he did not seem the type to come on this board and brag about his son's f/o accomplishments. I could be totally wrong but I am generally a good judge of stuff like that.


I spoke with him after the game. Very nice guy and going to Gilman speaks highly of the young man off the field

Did he have an after tug smoke!

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Too bad Hawks and Looneys don't play...very disappointing.

Yes, very.......

Would be 10-0 Hawks.


Hawks almost lost to crabs. Looneys beat crabs twice. Come back to reality... It would be a good game with the score within 2 either way.

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What happened to BLC? Please don't say injury's. This used to be one of the top teams around.
Oh you didn’t hear? They have 5 players in casts on the sidelines! Didn’t see them?

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Any word on what local teams will be in the WSYL East qualifier?

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Then took it easy on Mesa thinking it was an easy win. I think VLC beat them by 8 goals in Summer Exposure. Got a wakeup call there.

Guess VLC coaches have a reading comprehension problem. MESA (PA) didn't play in Summer Exposure. VLC played Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD), basically a rec team, in Summer Exposure.


Too bad you are the one with the misunderstanding.......
Mesa at Summer Exposure was the Mesa Pa team. Listed as the Severna Park team but every parent I spoke with on the sidelines was from the Philly area. It was Mesa Pa at summer exposure, not the SP team. The SP team had not even officially formed at the time.

Who knows, and who cares, whether it was the PA or SP Mesa team? Obviously VLC had a big win in their first game and a big let down in their second game. But having watched the Mesa team play yesterday, they are not bad at all. They are well coached and had a great goalie (no, I am not the goalie Dad). They were good enough to smack down a good VLC team when it did not bring its A game, and good enough to play Looneys and Crabs without being totally blown out. I'd say that puts them in the top 20 in the country. Wherever that Mesa team is from, good on them for playing in an extremely competitive field and going 1-2.

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Top 20? Not a chance. Top 40 maybe. Goalie did have a great game against VLC. Scores indicate otherwise against Crabs and Loonies. Were the Loonies missing a defender yesterday?

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Too bad Hawks and Looneys don't play...very disappointing.

Yes, very.......

Would be 10-0 Hawks.
Get real. If you could only beat VLC by 4, how would you beat Looneys by 10? And, if you actually were 10 goals better than your closest competition, then why are you playing in 2026 at all? Why not move up to 2025 where your team would have closer games and where many of your players belong anyway.

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So what are peoples prediction for top 5 in HOCO this spring at 2026?

1. Hawks
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6. BLC
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Either Crabs or Looneys will beat Hawks by the end of next year. The difference isn't much from what I saw. Not a parent of any of these teams. Hawks are still better but not by much. Next Level should play A level HoCo next year. They don't stand a chance against the others unfortunately. 91 getting blown out this weekend doesn't speak highly of them either. BLC is a good team but lost to VLC in Summer exposure and Fall HoCo. MadLax is missing from action these days. VLC is hit or miss.

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Too bad Hawks and Looneys don't play...very disappointing.

Yes, very.......

Would be 10-0 Hawks.


Hawks almost lost to crabs. Looneys beat crabs twice. Come back to reality... It would be a good game with the score within 2 either way.

Almost, maybe, but they never trailed and won by 2.

Looneys DID lost to VLC.

Hawks have beaten VLC 3 times in the last 2 months by 7, 6 and 4.

when did Looneys beat the Crabs?

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Who's ship is sinking faster? 91 or FCA?

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Too bad Hawks and Looneys don't play...very disappointing.

Yes, very.......

Would be 10-0 Hawks.
Get real. If you could only beat VLC by 4, how would you beat Looneys by 10? And, if you actually were 10 goals better than your closest competition, then why are you playing in 2026 at all? Why not move up to 2025 where your team would have closer games and where many of your players belong anyway.

Isn't Looney's goalie 14 and didn't they have to steal one yesterday from FCA yesterday to even play. Let's slow the 2025 talk down because it sounds like without one. You would be in trouble.

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Anyone who has not played the Crabs this fall is in for a surprise. They are not the same team from last year. They added a handful holdbacks from the 2025 Crabs team. The fact that the Hawks beat them without much of a roster change speaks volumes to the Hawks team. It was a good game. It was a game people around watching were commenting about. It was a physical. If your team is set up to play the Crabs, you should be prepared, they lost 2 face offs, max.
Thanks Crabs f/o dad. Everyone who watched them play in the fall league knows they added 2025 players from the their own 2025 team. Gotta do what ya gotta do to win.
For what it is worth, I spoke in the parking lot briefly with the Crabs f/o Dad and the player after my son's team played against them and he did not seem the type to come on this board and brag about his son's f/o accomplishments. I could be totally wrong but I am generally a good judge of stuff like that.


I spoke with him after the game. Very nice guy and going to Gilman speaks highly of the young man off the field

And IS a Holdback.

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Too bad Hawks and Looneys don't play...very disappointing.

Yes, very.......

Would be 10-0 Hawks.


Hawks almost lost to crabs. Looneys beat crabs twice. Come back to reality... It would be a good game with the score within 2 either way.

Almost, maybe, but they never trailed and won by 2.

Looneys DID lost to VLC.

Hawks have beaten VLC 3 times in the last 2 months by 7, 6 and 4.

when did Looneys beat the Crabs?

No excuses for Looney’s losing. VLC scored with 15 seconds left.

I am not sure where you have been but Looney’s beat crabs in the HOCO season twice. One being for the championship.
13-8 and ?

Just like Hawks lost to Tigers, sometimes it doesn’t go your way.

Looneys also beat VLC this fall... twice, I think.

Much respect to the Hawks team.

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So what are peoples prediction for top 5 in HOCO this spring at 2026?

1. Hawks
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4. Madlax
5. 91

6. BLC
7. VLC
8. Next Level

I don't think NextLevel considers itself part of this discussion, at least for now. Yesterday it played in the lower division against the BLC and MadLax B teams, and actually had a 4-2 game against the Madlax B team. My guess is that they want no part of the Hawks, Crabs, etc.

MadLax and 91 are hard to peg because, far as I know, they have not played Hawks, Looneys, Crabs, BLC, or VLC lately. Does anybody know if Madlax or 91 has played one of those five in the fall, or is scheduled to play them?

And BLC is hard to place because of the "famous five" on injured reserve. Even at full strength they do not seem equal to Hawks, Crabs, or Looney's, but it is hard to say how they stack up to MadLax, VLC, and 91. Keep in mind that other teams are down players too and will get them back in the spring.

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Then took it easy on Mesa thinking it was an easy win. I think VLC beat them by 8 goals in Summer Exposure. Got a wakeup call there.

Guess VLC coaches have a reading comprehension problem. MESA (PA) didn't play in Summer Exposure. VLC played Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD), basically a rec team, in Summer Exposure.


Too bad you are the one with the misunderstanding.......
Mesa at Summer Exposure was the Mesa Pa team. Listed as the Severna Park team but every parent I spoke with on the sidelines was from the Philly area. It was Mesa Pa at summer exposure, not the SP team. The SP team had not even officially formed at the time.

Who knows, and who cares, whether it was the PA or SP Mesa team? Obviously VLC had a big win in their first game and a big let down in their second game. But having watched the Mesa team play yesterday, they are not bad at all. They are well coached and had a great goalie (no, I am not the goalie Dad). They were good enough to smack down a good VLC team when it did not bring its A game, and good enough to play Looneys and Crabs without being totally blown out. I'd say that puts them in the top 20 in the country. Wherever that Mesa team is from, good on them for playing in an extremely competitive field and going 1-2.

So a team that is 1-7 in two tournaments should now be top 20, dream on lol. A parent told me yesterday they lost all their games since summer except vlc, and many players are older.

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Too bad Hawks and Looneys don't play...very disappointing.

Yes, very.......

Would be 10-0 Hawks.
Get real. If you could only beat VLC by 4, how would you beat Looneys by 10? And, if you actually were 10 goals better than your closest competition, then why are you playing in 2026 at all? Why not move up to 2025 where your team would have closer games and where many of your players belong anyway.

Isn't Looney's goalie 14 and didn't they have to steal one yesterday from FCA yesterday to even play. Let's slow the 2025 talk down because it sounds like without one. You would be in trouble.

According to the rumors, he has been 14 for 2 years. Their goalie was injured so they had a guest player.

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