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Hawks could have run up the score in Summer exposure and didn't. Not a Hawks dad but must give credit where it is due. I think the Looneys matchup this weekend will be good. Seems like Looneys have picked up some defensemen that are legit. #5 and #22 on that Hawks attack are very good.

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Lol. If I were a Hawks dad I would not be shy. After all my kid would be in the best program. Seriously though - there is no shame in calling the best team best. By 9th grade the size difference will be gone and skills will matter more. 7th graders should focus on development and having fun. I know - I am in the minority here.

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Hawks could have run up the score in Summer exposure and didn't. Not a Hawks dad but must give credit where it is due. I think the Looneys matchup this weekend will be good. Seems like Looneys have picked up some defensemen that are legit. #5 and #22 on that Hawks attack are very good.

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Lol. If I were a Hawks dad I would not be shy. After all my kid would be in the best program. Seriously though - there is no shame in calling the best team best. By 9th grade the size difference will be gone and skills will matter more. 7th graders should focus on development and having fun. I know - I am in the minority here.

stop trying the humble brag gig Hawks rookie

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Hawks could have run up the score in Summer exposure and didn't. Not a Hawks dad but must give credit where it is due. I think the Looneys matchup this weekend will be good. Seems like Looneys have picked up some defensemen that are legit. #5 and #22 on that Hawks attack are very good.

OK Hawks dad, pretzel
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Lol. If I were a Hawks dad I would not be shy. After all my kid would be in the best program. Seriously though - there is no shame in calling the best team best. By 9th grade the size difference will be gone and skills will matter more. 7th graders should focus on development and having fun. I know - I am in the minority here.

And you will finally hold your son back prior to 9th to compete

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Mesa South/Green Hornets 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played at Summer Exposure, not MESA PA

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Mesa Futures Orange (PA) played Summer Exposure in the AA bracket

Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played in the AA bracket, they went 0-4

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Why is everybody dumping on Mesa?

First its Green Hornets rec lacrosse dressed up as a club team - pay $200 or $2k - you tell me

GH sold its soul but that's just what it is. Apparently they did a number of roster changes from the previous year's GH roster. The real test will come by spring/summer if they can compete at the elite levels they're targetting. I expect they could certainly become an elite level club. Overnight, no. Several people also question if all of these Severna Park High School affiliated coaches will have time for the teams come spring.

The HC for SP lax - his kid plays Hawks and he's on the Hawks coaching staff - doubt he's going to coach Mesa

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GH Swarm was a fine program that stayed in the lane most appropriate for their player’s commitment, interest and collective skill set. Changing name to Mesa only costs family 5 times more, enriches a few and pushes the team outside of their lane ensuring much frustration for all involved ahead- but for those cashing the parent’s checks.

What is the point? In two years these kids will be in high school. Those capable of making Severna Park High’s team will do do whether they played reasonably priced Swarm or rip-off priced Mesa. Unfortunately, from why I have seen of their play, most will not make the high school’s team. Again what is the point?

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I am the poster who asked a day or two ago why everybody is dumping on Mesa. okay, I got my answer. You all can stop dumping now.

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Always the same teams at these Elite tournaments. Why? Does it really mean that much to only play in tournaments that you know you will win? Just don't get it. I wish my son could play the Hawks once a week.

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If you want to play the Hawks I would suggest you have your son’s coach call the Hawks coach and arrange a scrimmage at one of your son’s teams upcoming practices. My guess is the two coaches could agree on a date that works and that each team could come up with $50 each to hire two quality refs. My guess is the Hawks players would enjoy playing and your sons team would also enjoy the game and get insight as to where they stand in relation to the Hawks.

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GH Swarm was a fine program that stayed in the lane most appropriate for their player’s commitment, interest and collective skill set. Changing name to Mesa only costs family 5 times more, enriches a few and pushes the team outside of their lane ensuring much frustration for all involved ahead- but for those cashing the parent’s checks.

What is the point? In two years these kids will be in high school. Those capable of making Severna Park High’s team will do do whether they played reasonably priced Swarm or rip-off priced Mesa. Unfortunately, from why I have seen of their play, most will not make the high school’s team. Again what is the point?

Green hornets lax has been a dumpsters fire since club lax began. Diamondbacks was established because GH did not want a travel club. GH wanted to still grow it’s Rec programs. All the younger talented kids went to DB’s killing the GH Rec program. DB merge with APi and Arden. Severna park high may have won a few state titles in recent years but there is no talent in the pipe line to continue domination of AACO lax. It will take Mesa a few years to get SP back on track but heading in the right direction. Mesa will be building a api like faculty basically making api useless to the SP kids.

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Always the same teams at these Elite tournaments. Why? Does it really mean that much to only play in tournaments that you know you will win? Just don't get it. I wish my son could play the Hawks once a week.
I don't get your point. Are you saying the competition is too weak, or that there is not enough variety? Either way, I see it differently. Yes, this weekend the tournament is sponsored by HoCo so it is the usual DC/MD/VA teams, but almost of them are nationally ranked it is hard to say it is a bad level of play. And most of the summer and fall tournaments have a good mix of teams from around the country - in the past year my son has played against teams from CA, Florida, Colorado, Connecticut, North Carolina, Long Island, Syracuse, etc. I agree that is a valuable and fun part of the travel experience and sorry you are not getting that.
What team does your son play for?

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Always the same teams at these Elite tournaments. Why? Does it really mean that much to only play in tournaments that you know you will win? Just don't get it. I wish my son could play the Hawks once a week.
There's less diff teams because of covid.

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The team that they came from is Forest Hill Select and play in HoCo Club a few divisions down.

Believe it or not people, there is talent outside of the "top division"

Best player I saw in fall wasn't even on the top teams.

Some of you parents need a life

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GH Swarm was a fine program that stayed in the lane most appropriate for their player’s commitment, interest and collective skill set. Changing name to Mesa only costs family 5 times more, enriches a few and pushes the team outside of their lane ensuring much frustration for all involved ahead- but for those cashing the parent’s checks.

What is the point? In two years these kids will be in high school. Those capable of making Severna Park High’s team will do do whether they played reasonably priced Swarm or rip-off priced Mesa. Unfortunately, from why I have seen of their play, most will not make the high school’s team. Again what is the point?

Green hornets lax has been a dumpsters fire since club lax began. Diamondbacks was established because GH did not want a travel club. GH wanted to still grow it’s Rec programs. All the younger talented kids went to DB’s killing the GH Rec program. DB merge with APi and Arden. Severna park high may have won a few state titles in recent years but there is no talent in the pipe line to continue domination of AACO lax. It will take Mesa a few years to get SP back on track but heading in the right direction. Mesa will be building a api like faculty basically making api useless to the SP kids.

Fair on the dumpster fire. They stayed cheap while being in one of the wealthiest communities in the state. While I think Mesa could become a strong elite program I would be surprised if they actually help Severna Park lax. They've already taken lots of kids outside of SP and will need to as those kids have already gone to other club programs.

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Mesa South/Green Hornets 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played at Summer Exposure, not MESA PA

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Mesa Futures Orange (PA) played Summer Exposure in the AA bracket

Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played in the AA bracket, they went 0-4

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Why is everybody dumping on Mesa?

First its Green Hornets rec lacrosse dressed up as a club team - pay $200 or $2k - you tell me

GH sold its soul but that's just what it is. Apparently they did a number of roster changes from the previous year's GH roster. The real test will come by spring/summer if they can compete at the elite levels they're targetting. I expect they could certainly become an elite level club. Overnight, no. Several people also question if all of these Severna Park High School affiliated coaches will have time for the teams come spring.

GH will never be an elite program. Too much Daddy ball from Dads who themselves were probably B level talent growing up, if they even played at all. Bringing in Mesa to milk the parents Of their cash won’t change anything. The good players end up at the Hawks, if they’re good. Everyone else shuffles between the other B level programs like sidewinders, AYLC, PLC, DBacks, and now True.

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Mesa South/Green Hornets 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played at Summer Exposure, not MESA PA

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Mesa Futures Orange (PA) played Summer Exposure in the AA bracket

Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played in the AA bracket, they went 0-4

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Why is everybody dumping on Mesa?

First its Green Hornets rec lacrosse dressed up as a club team - pay $200 or $2k - you tell me

GH sold its soul but that's just what it is. Apparently they did a number of roster changes from the previous year's GH roster. The real test will come by spring/summer if they can compete at the elite levels they're targetting. I expect they could certainly become an elite level club. Overnight, no. Several people also question if all of these Severna Park High School affiliated coaches will have time for the teams come spring.

GH will never be an elite program. Too much Daddy ball from Dads who themselves were probably B level talent growing up, if they even played at all. Bringing in Mesa to milk the parents Of their cash won’t change anything. The good players end up at the Hawks, if they’re good. Everyone else shuffles between the other B level programs like sidewinders, AYLC, PLC, DBacks, and now True.

Programs like Mesa and True are the reasons teams like the Hawks stay good. It allows a completely watered down product under the name of club lacrosse while continuing to just stretch the talent out at so many different teams rather then having a few very good club teams. Both of those programs are rec lacrosse dressed up with a 2k price tag. At the end of the day the parents are the suckers that allow it, so kudos to the directors for figuring out a way to get paid. But hey, at least at Severna Park Tap House you can tell your friends your kid plays for a "real" club team despite the fact 75% of the kids can't pass and catch.

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Just wondering why MadLax is not playing this weekend - is its 2026 team still active?

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Mesa South/Green Hornets 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played at Summer Exposure, not MESA PA

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Mesa Futures Orange (PA) played Summer Exposure in the AA bracket

Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played in the AA bracket, they went 0-4

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Why is everybody dumping on Mesa?

First its Green Hornets rec lacrosse dressed up as a club team - pay $200 or $2k - you tell me

GH sold its soul but that's just what it is. Apparently they did a number of roster changes from the previous year's GH roster. The real test will come by spring/summer if they can compete at the elite levels they're targetting. I expect they could certainly become an elite level club. Overnight, no. Several people also question if all of these Severna Park High School affiliated coaches will have time for the teams come spring.

GH will never be an elite program. Too much Daddy ball from Dads who themselves were probably B level talent growing up, if they even played at all. Bringing in Mesa to milk the parents Of their cash won’t change anything. The good players end up at the Hawks, if they’re good. Everyone else shuffles between the other B level programs like sidewinders, AYLC, PLC, DBacks, and now True.

Bingo...But that also could be for many teams in Baltimore County and DC area. So much B ball being played under the "elite label" while directors fatten their bank accounts.

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said
Wow. PPOS.

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what does PPOS mean?

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said
Wow. PPOS.

Positive Point of Sale?

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said

Would you 2 just f and get it over with all ready.

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said
Wow. PPOS.

Positive Point of Sale?
Or pompous piece of 💩?

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Looking forward to some good lacrosse on Sunday. Good luck!!

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With temps getting cold does the floppy hat, tobacco spittin' Hawks dad go to his fall hunter attire or does he still wear flip flops and shorts? Cant wait to see on Sunday

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Looking forward to some good lacrosse on Sunday. Good luck!!

Let's hope Rage has his temper under control!

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Can somebody explain who the tobacco floppy hat guy is and why he is getting so much pub on this thread?

Is he just a typical low rent Hawks parent who lives through his son and has gotten under somebody’s skin, or is there a more interesting story that folks on the board would want to know?

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Can somebody explain who the tobacco floppy hat guy is and why he is getting so much pub on this thread?

Is he just a typical low rent Hawks parent who lives through his son and has gotten under somebody’s skin, or is there a more interesting story that folks on the board would want to know?


There are two of them. More like Lloyd and Harry from dense and Dumber

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Can somebody explain who the tobacco floppy hat guy is and why he is getting so much pub on this thread?

Is he just a typical low rent Hawks parent who lives through his son and has gotten under somebody’s skin, or is there a more interesting story that folks on the board would want to know?


There are two of them. More like Lloyd and Harry from dense and Dumber

Could be worse. They could tuck their little wangs between their legs and go annonymously post on a message board

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91 really stepping it up with the competition this weekend!! Lol. What a joke of a team

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Can somebody explain who the tobacco floppy hat guy is and why he is getting so much pub on this thread?

Is he just a typical low rent Hawks parent who lives through his son and has gotten under somebody’s skin, or is there a more interesting story that folks on the board would want to know?


There are two of them. More like Lloyd and Harry from dense and Dumber

Could be worse. They could tuck their little wangs between their legs and go annonymously post on a message board
Very true. It is a shame when the parents (both the haters and the detest-ee's) make it about themselves. Does anybody have anything interesting to say about lacrosse or should we wait for tomorrow's games?

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91 really stepping it up with the competition this weekend!! Lol. What a joke of a team
Sweetlax will blow 91 out tmrw. It won’t even be close.

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What’s the story with MadLax - are they playing at all this fall?

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The already played in a tournament and won it. Some of their lower end roster players will probably be playing tomorrow on their B team. That is what they do.

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Hey Team 91 Dad your boys lost to NXT today- what happened? Maybe you should merge with True? Sweetlax might score 30 against you on Sunday.

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If you want to know about madlax check out their website. They list games, practices, tournaments, rosters etc. The rest of the local teams have pitiful websites with zero info and nearly no social media presence.

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91 really stepping it up with the competition this weekend!! Lol. What a joke of a team
Sweetlax will blow 91 out tmrw. It won’t even be close.
91 lost to NXT...NXT is not even one of the better Philly area teams, 91 should fold immediately.

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If you want to know about madlax check out their website. They list games, practices, tournaments, rosters etc. The rest of the local teams have pitiful websites with zero info and nearly no social media presence.
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NXT Black is ranked 39th for what its worth. Question - are the Nationals the MADLAX Nationals?
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