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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
Anonymous #312081 10/14/20 02:44 PM
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Always the same teams at these Elite tournaments. Why? Does it really mean that much to only play in tournaments that you know you will win? Just don't get it. I wish my son could play the Hawks once a week.
There's less diff teams because of covid.

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The team that they came from is Forest Hill Select and play in HoCo Club a few divisions down.

Believe it or not people, there is talent outside of the "top division"

Best player I saw in fall wasn't even on the top teams.

Some of you parents need a life

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GH Swarm was a fine program that stayed in the lane most appropriate for their player’s commitment, interest and collective skill set. Changing name to Mesa only costs family 5 times more, enriches a few and pushes the team outside of their lane ensuring much frustration for all involved ahead- but for those cashing the parent’s checks.

What is the point? In two years these kids will be in high school. Those capable of making Severna Park High’s team will do do whether they played reasonably priced Swarm or rip-off priced Mesa. Unfortunately, from why I have seen of their play, most will not make the high school’s team. Again what is the point?

Green hornets lax has been a dumpsters fire since club lax began. Diamondbacks was established because GH did not want a travel club. GH wanted to still grow it’s Rec programs. All the younger talented kids went to DB’s killing the GH Rec program. DB merge with APi and Arden. Severna park high may have won a few state titles in recent years but there is no talent in the pipe line to continue domination of AACO lax. It will take Mesa a few years to get SP back on track but heading in the right direction. Mesa will be building a api like faculty basically making api useless to the SP kids.

Fair on the dumpster fire. They stayed cheap while being in one of the wealthiest communities in the state. While I think Mesa could become a strong elite program I would be surprised if they actually help Severna Park lax. They've already taken lots of kids outside of SP and will need to as those kids have already gone to other club programs.

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Mesa South/Green Hornets 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played at Summer Exposure, not MESA PA

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Mesa Futures Orange (PA) played Summer Exposure in the AA bracket

Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played in the AA bracket, they went 0-4

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Why is everybody dumping on Mesa?

First its Green Hornets rec lacrosse dressed up as a club team - pay $200 or $2k - you tell me

GH sold its soul but that's just what it is. Apparently they did a number of roster changes from the previous year's GH roster. The real test will come by spring/summer if they can compete at the elite levels they're targetting. I expect they could certainly become an elite level club. Overnight, no. Several people also question if all of these Severna Park High School affiliated coaches will have time for the teams come spring.

GH will never be an elite program. Too much Daddy ball from Dads who themselves were probably B level talent growing up, if they even played at all. Bringing in Mesa to milk the parents Of their cash won’t change anything. The good players end up at the Hawks, if they’re good. Everyone else shuffles between the other B level programs like sidewinders, AYLC, PLC, DBacks, and now True.

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Anonymous #312102 10/15/20 06:24 AM
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Mesa South/Green Hornets 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played at Summer Exposure, not MESA PA

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Mesa Futures Orange (PA) played Summer Exposure in the AA bracket

Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played in the AA bracket, they went 0-4

https://www.tourneymachine.com/Publ...ivision=h20200624133833756bd2fb39887b340
Why is everybody dumping on Mesa?

First its Green Hornets rec lacrosse dressed up as a club team - pay $200 or $2k - you tell me

GH sold its soul but that's just what it is. Apparently they did a number of roster changes from the previous year's GH roster. The real test will come by spring/summer if they can compete at the elite levels they're targetting. I expect they could certainly become an elite level club. Overnight, no. Several people also question if all of these Severna Park High School affiliated coaches will have time for the teams come spring.

GH will never be an elite program. Too much Daddy ball from Dads who themselves were probably B level talent growing up, if they even played at all. Bringing in Mesa to milk the parents Of their cash won’t change anything. The good players end up at the Hawks, if they’re good. Everyone else shuffles between the other B level programs like sidewinders, AYLC, PLC, DBacks, and now True.

Programs like Mesa and True are the reasons teams like the Hawks stay good. It allows a completely watered down product under the name of club lacrosse while continuing to just stretch the talent out at so many different teams rather then having a few very good club teams. Both of those programs are rec lacrosse dressed up with a 2k price tag. At the end of the day the parents are the suckers that allow it, so kudos to the directors for figuring out a way to get paid. But hey, at least at Severna Park Tap House you can tell your friends your kid plays for a "real" club team despite the fact 75% of the kids can't pass and catch.

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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
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Just wondering why MadLax is not playing this weekend - is its 2026 team still active?

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Anonymous #312163 10/15/20 04:58 PM
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Mesa South/Green Hornets 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played at Summer Exposure, not MESA PA

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Mesa Futures Orange (PA) played Summer Exposure in the AA bracket

Mesa Futures Orange 2026 (Severna Park, MD) played in the AA bracket, they went 0-4

https://www.tourneymachine.com/Publ...ivision=h20200624133833756bd2fb39887b340
Why is everybody dumping on Mesa?

First its Green Hornets rec lacrosse dressed up as a club team - pay $200 or $2k - you tell me

GH sold its soul but that's just what it is. Apparently they did a number of roster changes from the previous year's GH roster. The real test will come by spring/summer if they can compete at the elite levels they're targetting. I expect they could certainly become an elite level club. Overnight, no. Several people also question if all of these Severna Park High School affiliated coaches will have time for the teams come spring.

GH will never be an elite program. Too much Daddy ball from Dads who themselves were probably B level talent growing up, if they even played at all. Bringing in Mesa to milk the parents Of their cash won’t change anything. The good players end up at the Hawks, if they’re good. Everyone else shuffles between the other B level programs like sidewinders, AYLC, PLC, DBacks, and now True.

Bingo...But that also could be for many teams in Baltimore County and DC area. So much B ball being played under the "elite label" while directors fatten their bank accounts.

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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said
Wow. PPOS.

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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
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what does PPOS mean?

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said
Wow. PPOS.

Positive Point of Sale?

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said

Would you 2 just f and get it over with all ready.

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The funny thing is very few parents of kids that play for True, Mesa, Sidewinders, etc even bother to try out for Hawks. If my sons ability were decent enough and I were committed to paying full cash to have my son play in a club team I would have him tryout for several of the top rated teams each year full knowing I could default to Mesa or True if he did not make the cut. Instead most parents simply default for a B team, pay full freight and watch their kids development bump along. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.


This post isnt the floppy hat, jean short wearing tobacco spittin' Hawk dad. Very well said
Wow. PPOS.

Positive Point of Sale?
Or pompous piece of 💩?

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Re: Boys 2026 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region
TheBackOfTheCage #312226 10/16/20 03:10 PM
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Looking forward to some good lacrosse on Sunday. Good luck!!

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