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Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021
Anonymous #309192 09/05/20 12:10 PM
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It's a rigged game for families that can afford to have their kids repeat grades - with all the hype, am happy to see Ty Xanders finally beginning disclose age info. If these are high profile student athletes - how's that academic arrested development working?

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Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021
TheBackOfTheCage #309199 09/05/20 12:53 PM
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There is actually nothing wrong with holdbacks. If someone wants to be 18 and a sophomore in HS, fine. But youth lacrosse should be organized by birth year, Hockey is a great example of how this can work. There, unless a kid is a Jack Eichel type phenom, the college coaches don't want him at 18 when he leaves HS. The large majority of freshman playing D1 hockey are 19-20 yo. For on age kids, the kids will play a year or two in juniors (or a top level 18U team) until they are ready.

Thus, club lacrosse should be age based through age 15. Starting at 16, there should be a junior system where the top 16-20 year olds not yet in college play - this should be a closed invite only league with only elite players. For every one else - it will continue age based through 18.

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Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021
Anonymous #309202 09/05/20 01:29 PM
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The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

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The double holdback is actually the #1 2021 kid. That kid should be starting his sophomore year in college. Instead he is a rising senior. Again, coaches don’t care. I was at 3d Blue Chip event years ago when several droned on about how they love holdbacks since they are bigger, stronger and more mature. I agree 100% that lax should be age based.

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Anonymous #309218 09/05/20 04:16 PM
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The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.

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Anonymous #309241 09/06/20 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.

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Anonymous #309341 09/08/20 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.

No it wont and why should it. A college coach generally has an athlete for 4 or 5 years and if you can get an athlete with 2 years additional years of maturation and strength that is who they will pick. The Hockey analogy a few posts ago nailed it on the head. Unlike professional sports where a coach or team can spend a couple of years waiting for the athlete to mature or grow, a college coach doesn't have that option. A coach wanting bigger and faster makes perfect sense and it won't change. Signed, Public school parent whose son turns 18 in May of senior year.

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Anonymous #309659 09/13/20 05:05 PM
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Harvard just committed a 2022 rising junior goalie. The kid has a 2002 birthday which means he should be starting his freshman year in college. Let that sink in for people who think coaches care about birthdays or that there isn’t a huge upside to holding back your kid. Sad but undeniably true: CHEATING WORKS!

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Anonymous #309756 09/15/20 06:26 AM
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On the Harvard commit, chirps from the opposing attack during his senior year "hey can you buy us some beer after the game?" or "Is this 15th year of school going too fast for you?" or just segue into Good Will Hunting quips "Your folks just spent 150 grand on HS education you could have gotten for $1.50 in late fees at the public library"

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Anonymous #309763 09/15/20 09:39 AM
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The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.

Hes not really going to be 18 in spring ? right? I'd believe 17 if he was a double hold back.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.

It will be taken into account when he is 30 years old going to his 1st job interview after he realized there is no money in lacrosse. So your 30 years old and spent 6 years in high school and 5 in college..... Great candidate to clean toilets.

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Anonymous #309781 09/15/20 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.

It will be taken into account when he is 30 years old going to his 1st job interview after he realized there is no money in lacrosse. So your 30 years old and spent 6 years in high school and 5 in college..... Great candidate to clean toilets.

Why does anyone think this kid or any of the other reclassed kids are looking at a lacrosse career. If anyone looks at the 2022 list of committed schools I would say its well worth it. Some of the schools include Duke, Virginia, Princeton, Cornell, Yale, Notre Dame, Harvard, etc . . .While it is true that not all the schools are for boys who reclassed the point is that reclass or not the top boys are going to excellent academic institutions and if they graduate from these schools and work hard then they are good to go. Also, I am sure a few will seek the "pro" route (and hopefully one day a lifestyle can be made for others not named Rabil and Parnell) it would seem that playing lax is working so far.

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Anonymous #309808 09/15/20 03:52 PM
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The #1 kid in 2021 is a massive holdback and should be in college rather than starting his junior year.

If he's a 2021 he would be starting his Senior year.

Lol. He’s got nothing on Millon. 2023 and turning 18 in the spring. And yes he’ll be 20 when he graduates high school.
That's some good information, wonder if that double holdback status will be taken into account in recruiting reports and college coach's evals.

It will be taken into account when he is 30 years old going to his 1st job interview after he realized there is no money in lacrosse. So your 30 years old and spent 6 years in high school and 5 in college..... Great candidate to clean toilets.

Why does anyone think this kid or any of the other reclassed kids are looking at a lacrosse career. If anyone looks at the 2022 list of committed schools I would say its well worth it. Some of the schools include Duke, Virginia, Princeton, Cornell, Yale, Notre Dame, Harvard, etc . . .While it is true that not all the schools are for boys who reclassed the point is that reclass or not the top boys are going to excellent academic institutions and if they graduate from these schools and work hard then they are good to go. Also, I am sure a few will seek the "pro" route (and hopefully one day a lifestyle can be made for others not named Rabil and Parnell) it would seem that playing lax is working so far.

Your exactly right. They love doing 8th grade math and english so much their parents are going to fork over the 10k private school tuition again and again. Lets spend $20k in EXTRA private school tuition to go on top of the already 40k so our son can get 20-30k in lacrosse scholarships. Surely nobody is that dense so they must be holding back for the love of math, english, science etc.

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Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021
Anonymous #309961 09/17/20 09:25 AM
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I commend the parents that notice their kids have "LEARNING DISABILITIES" and step up to give their kids the help they need...Maybe they got the extra help, and did their homework, maybe their school district couldn't connect or didn't care. But to say give up on the sport, is wrong. Physical ability is just has important has mental.

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Anonymous #310085 09/18/20 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I commend the parents that notice their kids have "LEARNING DISABILITIES" and step up to give their kids the help they need...Maybe they got the extra help, and did their homework, maybe their school district couldn't connect or didn't care. But to say give up on the sport, is wrong. Physical ability is just has important has mental.

Your talking about lacrosse in his forum,not football or basketball. If your kid is 6ft 9 or taller then physical may be just as important. If your kid can't pass grade 8 then cut out the lacrosse until schooling gets on track. Your not going to make a financial career out of lacrosse. Unless you want to keep paying your kids rent for the rest of his life.

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