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Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021
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No dog in the fight so let's get real - why would the Warriors need anyone to beat Rebels, True Blue, and Igloo? That's laughable on face value alone.

What’s laughable is the 20 kids they had on the sideline - how does it feel to pay 4K to watch other kids take all your kid’s playing time? Is that 91 sticker on your car worth that much?

It's the same political non-sense here in Smithtown. Dealing with many coaches and board members at times is impossible.[/quote]

The Smithtown lax is total chaos.

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Re: Boys 2023-10th Grade Fall 2020/Summer 2021
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Conservatively there are 5-6 potential D1 players on the 91 Warriors but they are not a typical B team. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to show it this year.

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Conservatively there are 5-6 potential D1 players on the 91 Warriors but they are not a typical B team. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to show it this year.

Every year 91 has the best B team and I agree every year those teams have many D1 players. However, when it comes time for recruiting those kids go to low level D2 and low level D3 schools. A couple each year will make a decent academic school. It is rare 91 B team players go D1 or go to a great school. Just look at the history. Every year the parents think their team is the exception. They find out they are wrong when it is too late. 2021 Ambush 91 is very good. Handful of commits all d2 and most schools people never heard of. 2020 and 2019 same thing. Great b teams with D1 players but 91 could not place many at a D1 or decent school. Rebels , Legacy and FLG placing many D1s for 2021. Parents have to look at the end game. Check your ego at the door, Trust me your ego will feel a lot better when you say your kid played for the Rebels or FLG but are playing D1 or at a great academic school.

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Conservatively there are 5-6 potential D1 players on the 91 Warriors but they are not a typical B team. Too bad they didn’t get a chance to show it this year.

Every year 91 has the best B team and I agree every year those teams have many D1 players. However, when it comes time for recruiting those kids go to low level D2 and low level D3 schools. A couple each year will make a decent academic school. It is rare 91 B team players go D1 or go to a great school. Just look at the history. Every year the parents think their team is the exception. They find out they are wrong when it is too late. 2021 Ambush 91 is very good. Handful of commits all d2 and most schools people never heard of. 2020 and 2019 same thing. Great b teams with D1 players but 91 could not place many at a D1 or decent school. Rebels , Legacy and FLG placing many D1s for 2021. Parents have to look at the end game. Check your ego at the door, Trust me your ego will feel a lot better when you say your kid played for the Rebels or FLG but are playing D1 or at a great academic school.

Best humbling post ever to 91 ego maniac parents. Their kids will ultimately be working for my kid from one of theses so called "B" teams!

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Your bias against the 91 program is so obvious

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I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

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I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.

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I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

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I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?

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I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?



1) maybe his is not as good as he thinks he is
2) maybe his sons choice was based on what major he wants
3) maybe his sons choice was based on comfort with the school and fit on the team
3) maybe his just fell in love with the choice he made and feels this is where he wants to be and it’s just not all about lacrosse
His choice. Why do you care.

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Anonymous #307325 08/17/20 09:00 AM
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I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?

That school is a middle level D1 school and good academics. 5 wins and 1 loss before the season was shortened. It is moving up as its academic ranking has moved up over the last few years. They are getting better players. A 500 team the past few years. I would not call it low level. Some D1 players choose a school for major, money or fit. He had other options. An offer from a middle level D1 school usually means the kid had other offers. There are 74 D1 schools. Think of the odds of going D1. Approximately 65 - 80 goalies and FOGOs, 150 to 225 attack and defensemen and 500 to 750 middies each year are taken for D1. 2021 year the numbers will be lower because of school budgets and NCAA allowing a 5th year of eligibility. Being one of those 150 - 225 attack taken is a great accomplishment even if it is a middle level school. With all the AA teams in the country and players being taken from Canada it is very hard to get a D1 offer. That's why the B teams from 91, Igloo and Express are not getting D1 players recruited. If the top team has 25 players that means the B team players are ranked 25 - 50 in that one club. The AA team does not have 100 percent D1 players and some don't ever get an offer. The chances are very low for a D1 player to be on the B team and getting a D1 offer when all the AA players do not all get D1 offers. The colleges know those kids are ranked low on the club and look elsewhere. They know that many clubs including Long Island clubs , have top players that would be ranked in the top 25 for Igloo, Express and 91. That explains why FLG, Rebels, Legacy and even the Outlaws players get offers before the big clubs bottom AA team players and B team. Add to the mix B teams play in lesser tournaments and against lesser players so it is hard to read how good those players are.

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I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?

Because owners are smarter than the rest of us consumers. He probably sat his son down and gave him the same talk that parents give kids about santa clause but instead with LAX. There is no future in LAX son so lets use your talent to pay for as much school as possible. You can go to top D1 school and come out with 200,000 in student loans or go to smaller D1 school and come out with 50,000 in student loans. More importantly get that Business degree for as little as possible and spend the rest of your life teaching kids to play lacrosse for 3-5k a year. Set for life working in the sport you love.

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I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?



1) maybe his is not as good as he thinks he is
2) maybe his sons choice was based on what major he wants
3) maybe his sons choice was based on comfort with the school and fit on the team
3) maybe his just fell in love with the choice he made and feels this is where he wants to be and it’s just not all about lacrosse
His choice. Why do you care.

It shows the real answer about these club owners who preach about how they are going to get their players in the best lacrosse colleges. It's all a money scam. Any "B" or "C" player can get into that college and play lax. You don't need to be on Igloo/91/Express "A" team. Save your money.

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Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?

With all the notIntelligent comments on this site, this is top 5.

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I respect your opinion but it is based on history and generalizations. In this instance you need to look at a few individual player

I agree to a point. But 2021 Ambush 91 has potential D1 level players just like every other 91 B team in the past and currently. Not to be general and to be more specific these are the 2021 Ambush commits so far:

Fairleigh Dickerson
RPI (great school D3)
Arcadia
Colorado Mesa
North Greenville

The 2020 and 2019 B teams had many potential D1 players too. Similar results to 2021 Ambush. You can look it up.

My kids attend top academic schools and one is committed to play D1. Before an offer is made the high school coach and club coach gets a call. Are you sure that club coach will not try and get some of his AA kids committed who are not? He could say: "player B is great but I have five better players on my AA team". Also, he has to explain why the kid is on the B team. Unfortunately, the B team player does not get recruited by top academic or D1 schools you would want your son to attend. You have to look at history. Do you really think that 2023 is the first B team to have D1 level plays on the B team? 91, Express and Igloo have had little success placing their B team players at good schools. What ever the reason I will promise you 2023 will not be better. You are better off taking those players and going to another club. Look at Rebels, FLG and Legacy 2021 commits. Their D1 players are committed to D1 and great academic schools. Why can't 91, Express and Igloo do that for their D1 level kids. Get out before it is too late.


The two best schools on that list of five are the coach's kids. Year after year people join these big club B teams with bad results in the end. Year after year the parents of those B teams are told that your team is different. If 91 can not get D1 or great academic schools for all the AA players they are certainty not going to get a great school for the B team players. 2021 91 has the best team in the country and all are not recruited and some landed in questionable spots. Think this through. The answer is easy. I would pick 91 B team AFTER 91 top team, Igloo top team, Express top team, S2S, Rebels, Legacy top team and FLG. After that 91 B team has the most success with recruiting. Even the Outlaws 2021 who had all the best players leave 2 years ago have placed more D1 players and better schools than 2021 91 B team.

Igloo owner's son is going to a low level D1 school. Why couldn't he get his son into a top 5 D1 school?



1) maybe his is not as good as he thinks he is
2) maybe his sons choice was based on what major he wants
3) maybe his sons choice was based on comfort with the school and fit on the team
3) maybe his just fell in love with the choice he made and feels this is where he wants to be and it’s just not all about lacrosse
His choice. Why do you care.

It shows the real answer about these club owners who preach about how they are going to get their players in the best lacrosse colleges. It's all a money scam. Any "B" or "C" player can get into that college and play lax. You don't need to be on Igloo/91/Express "A" team. Save your money.

Not any B or C player can get a spot at that school. Be fair. It is a good school that gets better every year in lacrosse and academics. All commits for that program for 2021 came from AA teams. 225 attack players will be lucky enough to get a D1 spot for 2021. This is a top 40 lacrosse school. I wish the kid well.

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