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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season
Anonymous #302245 05/22/20 07:56 PM
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Ok, I stand corrected; but give us some examples where the coach really invited everyone back on the team.


USC, UNC, UVA, ND, PSU , Cuse, MD to name a few. Ivies no but that is a conference decision not coaches . I have not heard of any schools who have offered the 5th year to some seniors but not others , maybe let’s hear about those.

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USC: haven't heard anything other than the team losing 2 seniors to other teams.
UNC: Katie Hoeg (#1 player on team), Kerrigan Miller (transfer from USC- 2nd team All-American).
UVA: no info
Notre Dame: no info
Penn State: Maria Auth (#1 player on team)- reported by team statement. Nothing about other players.
Syracuse: returning 10 of 11 seniors. Team roster size for next year is 45 players. Great for seniors, but not sure how the rest of the team feels about this. If this is a one time event, Syracuse class of 2021 players never get a chance to be the leaders of the team.
Maryland: no info

Georgetown: Natalia Lynch (#1 player on team) - reported by team. Nothing about other players
Virginia Tech: Angie Benson, Taylor Caskey, Kendall Welch, Mary Clare McCarthy (top 4 of 7 seniors, all starters, but remaining 3 seniors who aren't coming back never started a game)
Ohio State: Kelsey Reed (JMU), Mary Kate Bonanni (Cornell). no mention yet of current players staying.
Northwestern: Sammy Mueller (transfer from Virginia- 2nd team All-American). no mention yet of current players staying.
U Conn: Alyssa Conklin (team captain, defender)
Loyola: Holly Lloyd (starter attack), Meaghan Quinn (starter, defender). Took 2 of 3 seniors. The senior who isn't returning never started a game.
Stony Brook: Ally Kennedy (#1 player on team), Kylie Ohlmiller (#2 player on team). Kaeli Huff (transfer from USC- starter #5 on team)
Duke: Gabby Rosenzweig (transfer from Penn- honorable mention All-American) no mention yet of current players staying.

Of course, the information is limited and incomplete. But so far, it doesn't look very egalitarian to me.
What specific news have you heard?

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Anonymous #302262 05/23/20 09:07 PM
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USC: haven't heard anything other than the team losing 2 seniors to other teams.
UNC: Katie Hoeg (#1 player on team), Kerrigan Miller (transfer from USC- 2nd team All-American).
UVA: no info
Notre Dame: no info
Penn State: Maria Auth (#1 player on team)- reported by team statement. Nothing about other players.
Syracuse: returning 10 of 11 seniors. Team roster size for next year is 45 players. Great for seniors, but not sure how the rest of the team feels about this. If this is a one time event, Syracuse class of 2021 players never get a chance to be the leaders of the team.
Maryland: no info

Georgetown: Natalia Lynch (#1 player on team) - reported by team. Nothing about other players
Virginia Tech: Angie Benson, Taylor Caskey, Kendall Welch, Mary Clare McCarthy (top 4 of 7 seniors, all starters, but remaining 3 seniors who aren't coming back never started a game)
Ohio State: Kelsey Reed (JMU), Mary Kate Bonanni (Cornell). no mention yet of current players staying.
Northwestern: Sammy Mueller (transfer from Virginia- 2nd team All-American). no mention yet of current players staying.
U Conn: Alyssa Conklin (team captain, defender)
Loyola: Holly Lloyd (starter attack), Meaghan Quinn (starter, defender). Took 2 of 3 seniors. The senior who isn't returning never started a game.
Stony Brook: Ally Kennedy (#1 player on team), Kylie Ohlmiller (#2 player on team). Kaeli Huff (transfer from USC- starter #5 on team)
Duke: Gabby Rosenzweig (transfer from Penn- honorable mention All-American) no mention yet of current players staying.

Of course, the information is limited and incomplete. But so far, it doesn't look very egalitarian to me.
What specific news have you heard?


What your missing here is if anyone was not asked back or told not to come back. The fact that seniors elected to graduate does not mean they were not more than welcome to return. Find me those examples...

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USC: haven't heard anything other than the team losing 2 seniors to other teams.
UNC: Katie Hoeg (#1 player on team), Kerrigan Miller (transfer from USC- 2nd team All-American).
UVA: no info
Notre Dame: no info
Penn State: Maria Auth (#1 player on team)- reported by team statement. Nothing about other players.
Syracuse: returning 10 of 11 seniors. Team roster size for next year is 45 players. Great for seniors, but not sure how the rest of the team feels about this. If this is a one time event, Syracuse class of 2021 players never get a chance to be the leaders of the team.
Maryland: no info

Georgetown: Natalia Lynch (#1 player on team) - reported by team. Nothing about other players
Virginia Tech: Angie Benson, Taylor Caskey, Kendall Welch, Mary Clare McCarthy (top 4 of 7 seniors, all starters, but remaining 3 seniors who aren't coming back never started a game)
Ohio State: Kelsey Reed (JMU), Mary Kate Bonanni (Cornell). no mention yet of current players staying.
Northwestern: Sammy Mueller (transfer from Virginia- 2nd team All-American). no mention yet of current players staying.
U Conn: Alyssa Conklin (team captain, defender)
Loyola: Holly Lloyd (starter attack), Meaghan Quinn (starter, defender). Took 2 of 3 seniors. The senior who isn't returning never started a game.
Stony Brook: Ally Kennedy (#1 player on team), Kylie Ohlmiller (#2 player on team). Kaeli Huff (transfer from USC- starter #5 on team)
Duke: Gabby Rosenzweig (transfer from Penn- honorable mention All-American) no mention yet of current players staying.

Of course, the information is limited and incomplete. But so far, it doesn't look very egalitarian to me.
What specific news have you heard?



You cannot be this dense. Of course the players who were on the field the most are more likely to elect to come back for a fifth year than a player who did not play as much. You are also more likely to hear about the impact players coming back than some of the others . You were given a list of 7 teams in which all seniors were given the option to return and chose to ignore it . Again you cannot name one team where only some seniors were asked to return while others were not .i have spoken with many parents of players on teams and all have stated that all seniors were told they can return if they elect to do so , some programs have told them they will fund their existing scholarship others have said no scholarship . Not sure of what your motivation is to try and make all these coaches seem as if they don’t develop a relationship with their players and only care about winning but it’s just not the case .

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USC: haven't heard anything other than the team losing 2 seniors to other teams.
UNC: Katie Hoeg (#1 player on team), Kerrigan Miller (transfer from USC- 2nd team All-American).
UVA: no info
Notre Dame: no info
Penn State: Maria Auth (#1 player on team)- reported by team statement. Nothing about other players.
Syracuse: returning 10 of 11 seniors. Team roster size for next year is 45 players. Great for seniors, but not sure how the rest of the team feels about this. If this is a one time event, Syracuse class of 2021 players never get a chance to be the leaders of the team.
Maryland: no info

Georgetown: Natalia Lynch (#1 player on team) - reported by team. Nothing about other players
Virginia Tech: Angie Benson, Taylor Caskey, Kendall Welch, Mary Clare McCarthy (top 4 of 7 seniors, all starters, but remaining 3 seniors who aren't coming back never started a game)
Ohio State: Kelsey Reed (JMU), Mary Kate Bonanni (Cornell). no mention yet of current players staying.
Northwestern: Sammy Mueller (transfer from Virginia- 2nd team All-American). no mention yet of current players staying.
U Conn: Alyssa Conklin (team captain, defender)
Loyola: Holly Lloyd (starter attack), Meaghan Quinn (starter, defender). Took 2 of 3 seniors. The senior who isn't returning never started a game.
Stony Brook: Ally Kennedy (#1 player on team), Kylie Ohlmiller (#2 player on team). Kaeli Huff (transfer from USC- starter #5 on team)
Duke: Gabby Rosenzweig (transfer from Penn- honorable mention All-American) no mention yet of current players staying.

Of course, the information is limited and incomplete. But so far, it doesn't look very egalitarian to me.
What specific news have you heard?



You cannot be this dense. Of course the players who were on the field the most are more likely to elect to come back for a fifth year than a player who did not play as much. You are also more likely to hear about the impact players coming back than some of the others . You were given a list of 7 teams in which all seniors were given the option to return and chose to ignore it . Again you cannot name one team where only some seniors were asked to return while others were not .i have spoken with many parents of players on teams and all have stated that all seniors were told they can return if they elect to do so , some programs have told them they will fund their existing scholarship others have said no scholarship . Not sure of what your motivation is to try and make all these coaches seem as if they don’t develop a relationship with their players and only care about winning but it’s just not the case .


So, if the coaches were so concerned with their player relationships and didn't care about winning, why bring in big time transfers?

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We all know that in college sports that when a coach tells a prospect that he wants her to join the team, that doesn’t necessarily mean that he actually means it.
So when a coach tells the entire senior class that he wants them to stay, it also doesn’t necessarily mean that he means everyone..

For a lot of practical reasons, it doesn’t make a lot of sense for a coach to take back an entire senior class next year like Syracuse, let alone for the next 4 years.

Your list of schools where coaches have invited all of their seniors to return (USC, UNC, UVA, ND, PSU, Syracuse) is completely unsubstantiated and proves nothing. Except for Syracuse, almost no players from your list have even announced they will be coming back.

The fact that so many players have already transferred to other schools and no reserve players have announced they are staying next year is a stronger argument that many coaches are NOT inviting their entire senior class back.

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USC: haven't heard anything other than the team losing 2 seniors to other teams.
UNC: Katie Hoeg (#1 player on team), Kerrigan Miller (transfer from USC- 2nd team All-American).
UVA: no info
Notre Dame: no info
Penn State: Maria Auth (#1 player on team)- reported by team statement. Nothing about other players.
Syracuse: returning 10 of 11 seniors. Team roster size for next year is 45 players. Great for seniors, but not sure how the rest of the team feels about this. If this is a one time event, Syracuse class of 2021 players never get a chance to be the leaders of the team.
Maryland: no info

Georgetown: Natalia Lynch (#1 player on team) - reported by team. Nothing about other players
Virginia Tech: Angie Benson, Taylor Caskey, Kendall Welch, Mary Clare McCarthy (top 4 of 7 seniors, all starters, but remaining 3 seniors who aren't coming back never started a game)
Ohio State: Kelsey Reed (JMU), Mary Kate Bonanni (Cornell). no mention yet of current players staying.
Northwestern: Sammy Mueller (transfer from Virginia- 2nd team All-American). no mention yet of current players staying.
U Conn: Alyssa Conklin (team captain, defender)
Loyola: Holly Lloyd (starter attack), Meaghan Quinn (starter, defender). Took 2 of 3 seniors. The senior who isn't returning never started a game.
Stony Brook: Ally Kennedy (#1 player on team), Kylie Ohlmiller (#2 player on team). Kaeli Huff (transfer from USC- starter #5 on team)
Duke: Gabby Rosenzweig (transfer from Penn- honorable mention All-American) no mention yet of current players staying.

Of course, the information is limited and incomplete. But so far, it doesn't look very egalitarian to me.
What specific news have you heard?



You cannot be this dense. Of course the players who were on the field the most are more likely to elect to come back for a fifth year than a player who did not play as much. You are also more likely to hear about the impact players coming back than some of the others . You were given a list of 7 teams in which all seniors were given the option to return and chose to ignore it . Again you cannot name one team where only some seniors were asked to return while others were not .i have spoken with many parents of players on teams and all have stated that all seniors were told they can return if they elect to do so , some programs have told them they will fund their existing scholarship others have said no scholarship . Not sure of what your motivation is to try and make all these coaches seem as if they don’t develop a relationship with their players and only care about winning but it’s just not the case .


So, if the coaches were so concerned with their player relationships and didn't care about winning, why bring in big time transfers?



That’s the best you got . Where did anyone say they don’t care about winning ? The coaches voiced their opinion in regard to bringing the seniors back,the vast majority of them in favor of allowing the 5th year. From the coaches point of view it makes their jobs more difficult but they realized it was in the best interest of the seniors to give them the option. As far as the big time transfers I am sure the coaches that had players leave wanted them back but again allowing 5th year transfers to occur was again in the players best interests . As far as the coaches who have a transfer coming in I assume you feel playing time should be equal for all players but that’s just not the way life or collegiate sports work , teams bring in transfers every year.

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USC: haven't heard anything other than the team losing 2 seniors to other teams.
UNC: Katie Hoeg (#1 player on team), Kerrigan Miller (transfer from USC- 2nd team All-American).
UVA: no info
Notre Dame: no info
Penn State: Maria Auth (#1 player on team)- reported by team statement. Nothing about other players.
Syracuse: returning 10 of 11 seniors. Team roster size for next year is 45 players. Great for seniors, but not sure how the rest of the team feels about this. If this is a one time event, Syracuse class of 2021 players never get a chance to be the leaders of the team.
Maryland: no info

Georgetown: Natalia Lynch (#1 player on team) - reported by team. Nothing about other players
Virginia Tech: Angie Benson, Taylor Caskey, Kendall Welch, Mary Clare McCarthy (top 4 of 7 seniors, all starters, but remaining 3 seniors who aren't coming back never started a game)
Ohio State: Kelsey Reed (JMU), Mary Kate Bonanni (Cornell). no mention yet of current players staying.
Northwestern: Sammy Mueller (transfer from Virginia- 2nd team All-American). no mention yet of current players staying.
U Conn: Alyssa Conklin (team captain, defender)
Loyola: Holly Lloyd (starter attack), Meaghan Quinn (starter, defender). Took 2 of 3 seniors. The senior who isn't returning never started a game.
Stony Brook: Ally Kennedy (#1 player on team), Kylie Ohlmiller (#2 player on team). Kaeli Huff (transfer from USC- starter #5 on team)
Duke: Gabby Rosenzweig (transfer from Penn- honorable mention All-American) no mention yet of current players staying.

Of course, the information is limited and incomplete. But so far, it doesn't look very egalitarian to me.
What specific news have you heard?



You cannot be this dense. Of course the players who were on the field the most are more likely to elect to come back for a fifth year than a player who did not play as much. You are also more likely to hear about the impact players coming back than some of the others . You were given a list of 7 teams in which all seniors were given the option to return and chose to ignore it . Again you cannot name one team where only some seniors were asked to return while others were not .i have spoken with many parents of players on teams and all have stated that all seniors were told they can return if they elect to do so , some programs have told them they will fund their existing scholarship others have said no scholarship .


So, if the coaches were so concerned with their player relationships and didn't care about winning, why bring in big time transfers?



That’s the best you got . Where did anyone say they don’t care about winning ? The coaches voiced their opinion in regard to bringing the seniors back,the vast majority of them in favor of allowing the 5th year. From the coaches point of view it makes their jobs more difficult but they realized it was in the best interest of the seniors to give them the option. As far as the big time transfers I am sure the coaches that had players leave wanted them back but again allowing 5th year transfers to occur was again in the players best interests . As far as the coaches who have a transfer coming in I assume you feel playing time should be equal for all players but that’s just not the way life or collegiate sports work , teams bring in transfers every year.


Not sure of what your motivation is to try and make all these coaches seem as if they don’t develop a relationship with their players and only care about winning but it’s just not the case .

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[quote=Anonymous]USC: haven't heard anything other than the team losing 2 seniors to other teams.
UNC: Katie Hoeg (#1 player on team), Kerrigan Miller (transfer from USC- 2nd team All-American).
UVA: no info
Notre Dame: no info
Penn State: Maria Auth (#1 player on team)- reported by team statement. Nothing about other players.
Syracuse: returning 10 of 11 seniors. Team roster size for next year is 45 players. Great for seniors, but not sure how the rest of the team feels about this. If this is a one time event, Syracuse class of 2021 players never get a chance to be the leaders of the team.
Maryland: no info

Georgetown: Natalia Lynch (#1 player on team) - reported by team. Nothing about other players
Virginia Tech: Angie Benson, Taylor Caskey, Kendall Welch, Mary Clare McCarthy (top 4 of 7 seniors, all starters, but remaining 3 seniors who aren't coming back never started a game)
Ohio State: Kelsey Reed (JMU), Mary Kate Bonanni (Cornell). no mention yet of current players staying.
Northwestern: Sammy Mueller (transfer from Virginia- 2nd team All-American). no mention yet of current players staying.
U Conn: Alyssa Conklin (team captain, defender)
Loyola: Holly Lloyd (starter attack), Meaghan Quinn (starter, defender). Took 2 of 3 seniors. The senior who isn't returning never started a game.
Stony Brook: Ally Kennedy (#1 player on team), Kylie Ohlmiller (#2 player on team). Kaeli Huff (transfer from USC- starter #5 on team)
Duke: Gabby Rosenzweig (transfer from Penn- honorable mention All-American) no mention yet of current players staying.

Of course, the information is limited and incomplete. But so far, it doesn't look very egalitarian to me.
What specific news have you heard?



You cannot be this dense. Of course the players who were on the field the most are more likely to elect to come back for a fifth year than a player who did not play as much. You are also more likely to hear about the impact players coming back than some of the others . You were given a list of 7 teams in which all seniors were given the option to return and chose to ignore it . Again you cannot name one team where only some seniors were asked to return while others were not .i have spoken with many parents of players on teams and all have stated that all seniors were told they can return if they elect to do so , some programs have told them they will fund their existing scholarship others have said no scholarship . Not sure of what your motivation is to try and make all these coaches seem as if they don’t develop a relationship with their players and only care about winning but it’s just not the case .


So, if the coaches were so concerned with their player relationships and didn't care about winning, why bring in big time transfers?



That’s the best you got . Where did anyone say they don’t care about winning ? The coaches voiced their opinion in regard to bringing the seniors back,the vast majority of them in favor of allowing the 5th year. From the coaches point of view it makes their jobs more difficult but they realized it was in the best interest of the seniors to give them the option. As far as the big time transfers I am sure the coaches that had players leave wanted them back but again allowing 5th year transfers to occur was again in the players best interests . As far as the coaches who have a transfer coming in I assume you feel playing time should be equal for all players but that’s just not the way life or collegiate sports work , teams bring in transfers every year.
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Life and collegiate sports seem pretty dam fair to the Seniors this year, no?

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[quote=Anonymous]USC: haven't heard anything other than the team losing 2 seniors to other teams.
UNC: Katie Hoeg (#1 player on team), Kerrigan Miller (transfer from USC- 2nd team All-American).
UVA: no info
Notre Dame: no info
Penn State: Maria Auth (#1 player on team)- reported by team statement. Nothing about other players.
Syracuse: returning 10 of 11 seniors. Team roster size for next year is 45 players. Great for seniors, but not sure how the rest of the team feels about this. If this is a one time event, Syracuse class of 2021 players never get a chance to be the leaders of the team.
Maryland: no info

Georgetown: Natalia Lynch (#1 player on team) - reported by team. Nothing about other players
Virginia Tech: Angie Benson, Taylor Caskey, Kendall Welch, Mary Clare McCarthy (top 4 of 7 seniors, all starters, but remaining 3 seniors who aren't coming back never started a game)
Ohio State: Kelsey Reed (JMU), Mary Kate Bonanni (Cornell). no mention yet of current players staying.
Northwestern: Sammy Mueller (transfer from Virginia- 2nd team All-American). no mention yet of current players staying.
U Conn: Alyssa Conklin (team captain, defender)
Loyola: Holly Lloyd (starter attack), Meaghan Quinn (starter, defender). Took 2 of 3 seniors. The senior who isn't returning never started a game.
Stony Brook: Ally Kennedy (#1 player on team), Kylie Ohlmiller (#2 player on team). Kaeli Huff (transfer from USC- starter #5 on team)
Duke: Gabby Rosenzweig (transfer from Penn- honorable mention All-American) no mention yet of current players staying.

Of course, the information is limited and incomplete. But so far, it doesn't look very egalitarian to me.
What specific news have you heard?



You cannot be this dense. Of course the players who were on the field the most are more likely to elect to come back for a fifth year than a player who did not play as much. You are also more likely to hear about the impact players coming back than some of the others . You were given a list of 7 teams in which all seniors were given the option to return and chose to ignore it . Again you cannot name one team where only some seniors were asked to return while others were not .i have spoken with many parents of players on teams and all have stated that all seniors were told they can return if they elect to do so , some programs have told them they will fund their existing scholarship others have said no scholarship . Not sure of what your motivation is to try and make all these coaches seem as if they don’t develop a relationship with their players and only care about winning but it’s just not the case .


So, if the coaches were so concerned with their player relationships and didn't care about winning, why bring in big time transfers?



That’s the best you got . Where did anyone say they don’t care about winning ? The coaches voiced their opinion in regard to bringing the seniors back,the vast majority of them in favor of allowing the 5th year. From the coaches point of view it makes their jobs more difficult but they realized it was in the best interest of the seniors to give them the option. As far as the big time transfers I am sure the coaches that had players leave wanted them back but again allowing 5th year transfers to occur was again in the players best interests . As far as the coaches who have a transfer coming in I assume you feel playing time should be equal for all players but that’s just not the way life or collegiate sports work , teams bring in transfers every year.
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Life and collegiate sports seem pretty dam fair to the Seniors this year, no?


Yes not being able to finish their senior year both on the field or in the classroom ,no graduation, no saying good buy to so many friends in person seems real fair. Yes getting a 5th year helps but its like saying the player who blows out their knee just prior to the first game senior year seems fair not to allow a redshirt year.

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[quote=Anonymous]USC: haven't heard anything other than the team losing 2 seniors to other teams.
UNC: Katie Hoeg (#1 player on team), Kerrigan Miller (transfer from USC- 2nd team All-American).
UVA: no info
Notre Dame: no info
Penn State: Maria Auth (#1 player on team)- reported by team statement. Nothing about other players.
Syracuse: returning 10 of 11 seniors. Team roster size for next year is 45 players. Great for seniors, but not sure how the rest of the team feels about this. If this is a one time event, Syracuse class of 2021 players never get a chance to be the leaders of the team.
Maryland: no info

Georgetown: Natalia Lynch (#1 player on team) - reported by team. Nothing about other players
Virginia Tech: Angie Benson, Taylor Caskey, Kendall Welch, Mary Clare McCarthy (top 4 of 7 seniors, all starters, but remaining 3 seniors who aren't coming back never started a game)
Ohio State: Kelsey Reed (JMU), Mary Kate Bonanni (Cornell). no mention yet of current players staying.
Northwestern: Sammy Mueller (transfer from Virginia- 2nd team All-American). no mention yet of current players staying.
U Conn: Alyssa Conklin (team captain, defender)
Loyola: Holly Lloyd (starter attack), Meaghan Quinn (starter, defender). Took 2 of 3 seniors. The senior who isn't returning never started a game.
Stony Brook: Ally Kennedy (#1 player on team), Kylie Ohlmiller (#2 player on team). Kaeli Huff (transfer from USC- starter #5 on team)
Duke: Gabby Rosenzweig (transfer from Penn- honorable mention All-American) no mention yet of current players staying.

Of course, the information is limited and incomplete. But so far, it doesn't look very egalitarian to me.
What specific news have you heard?



You cannot be this dense. Of course the players who were on the field the most are more likely to elect to come back for a fifth year than a player who did not play as much. You are also more likely to hear about the impact players coming back than some of the others . You were given a list of 7 teams in which all seniors were given the option to return and chose to ignore it . Again you cannot name one team where only some seniors were asked to return while others were not .i have spoken with many parents of players on teams and all have stated that all seniors were told they can return if they elect to do so , some programs have told them they will fund their existing scholarship others have said no scholarship . Not sure of what your motivation is to try and make all these coaches seem as if they don’t develop a relationship with their players and only care about winning but it’s just not the case .


So, if the coaches were so concerned with their player relationships and didn't care about winning, why bring in big time transfers?



That’s the best you got . Where did anyone say they don’t care about winning ? The coaches voiced their opinion in regard to bringing the seniors back,the vast majority of them in favor of allowing the 5th year. From the coaches point of view it makes their jobs more difficult but they realized it was in the best interest of the seniors to give them the option. As far as the big time transfers I am sure the coaches that had players leave wanted them back but again allowing 5th year transfers to occur was again in the players best interests . As far as the coaches who have a transfer coming in I assume you feel playing time should be equal for all players but that’s just not the way life or collegiate sports work , teams bring in transfers every year.
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Life and collegiate sports seem pretty dam fair to the Seniors this year, no?


Yes not being able to finish their senior year both on the field or in the classroom ,no graduation, no saying good buy to so many friends in person seems real fair. Yes getting a 5th year helps but its like saying the player who blows out their knee just prior to the first game senior year seems fair not to allow a redshirt year.


Lot of moving around of the goalposts...You would make a great politician with all the babbling of nonsense.

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Don't understand the logic.
1. If you want to support your current seniors, you give them ALL of an option of taking the extra year and wait for them to respond. You are effectively constrained from looking for 5th year transfers because your roster may be 25% bigger next year (like Syracuse with 45 players next year), so there isn't any room for extra players. How many college ADs in this current environment are OK with expanding rosters of non-revenue sports teams by 25%? How many college ADs are OK with expanding the lacrosse roster by even 1 additional player for next year?

2. If you want to win, you keep your current seniors who are impact players as well as simultaneously recruiting impact players from other programs. You have to start recruiting transfers almost immediately. Top talent isn't easy to recruit, and they quickly find new homes if they want to transfer to a new school. For example, the men's lacrosse transfer market has already taken most of the top names 5th year seniors off the board within the first month that the NCAA announced 5th year eligibility. You keep very few role playing seniors on your team because their presence inhibits your ability to groom your team's young talent who coming up from behind.

Not sure how you do both effectively.

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Re: 2019-2020 Women's DI, II & III College Lacrosse Season
TheBackOfTheCage #302343 05/27/20 09:52 AM
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NCAA meeting today, lets see if they right the wrong or continue to dig a bigger hole

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[quote=Anonymous]NCAA meeting today, lets see if they right the wrong or continue to dig a bigger hole[/quo
the dead period will be extended through July, there will be no adjustments to the extra year issue

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TheBackOfTheCage #302353 05/27/20 12:22 PM
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Life and collegiate sports seem pretty dam fair to the Seniors this year, no?


Yes not being able to finish their senior year both on the field or in the classroom ,no graduation, no saying good buy to so many friends in person seems real fair. Yes getting a 5th year helps but its like saying the player who blows out their knee just prior to the first game senior year seems fair not to allow a redshirt year.


Lot of moving around of the goalposts...You would make a great politician with all the babbling of nonsense.

You must be really slow, for you to say that life and collegiate sports were pretty dam fair for anyone especially the seniors shows your complete ignorance of what is going on during this pandemic. Lives, the job market, etc have been devastated. Get a clue.

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