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Re: Age and Reclassification. The good the bad the ugly!
lax516 #301057 04/07/20 09:42 AM
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"Great, I propose 8/1. You propose 9/1 and others propose 1/1. Glad we're all in agreement. Sorry Charlie."

You are right, I stand corrected. NO FLEX. Calendar year. Sorry your old for the grade kid now has to play with kids his own age.

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Cheating at youth is ridiculous. I know at least a half dozen kids that heldback in PAL and played on combo teams. Some kids quit or don't get to play because they think they stink. Tommy you don't stink Johnnie is 2 and a half years older than you thats why he is a 4th grade Myles Jones.

Two and a half years older ??? The vast majority of holdbacks are 3 to 9 months older. Stop making excuses for Tommy - maybe he just isn't good enough.

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Several years ago, soccer made the switch to a January 1st cutoff. There was some initial moaning, but that quickly died down and everyone just adapted. It's refreshing to watch kids play against others their own age.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Cheating at youth is ridiculous. I know at least a half dozen kids that heldback in PAL and played on combo teams. Some kids quit or don't get to play because they think they stink. Tommy you don't stink Johnnie is 2 and a half years older than you thats why he is a 4th grade Myles Jones.

Two and a half years older ??? The vast majority of holdbacks are 3 to 9 months older. Stop making excuses for Tommy - maybe he just isn't good enough.


My son who is now in HS does know a few kids who re-classed. Some did late starts, some did it just before 8th and 9th grade. However in all cases I know of, these kids were not the tallest or biggest kids. They were not the ones people think are holdbacks.

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cltlax #301068 04/07/20 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cltlax
Several years ago, soccer made the switch to a January 1st cutoff. There was some initial moaning, but that quickly died down and everyone just adapted. It's refreshing to watch kids play against others their own age.


Just not true. Soccer participation is down 4 years in a row and by about 700,000 over the last 4 years as reported by US Soccer Foundation and Aspen Institute.

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lax516 #301069 04/07/20 04:18 PM
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Sorry for your old for the grade kid. Someone actually posted a statement like that. Who are these ridiculous people. There is a date in every single sport. It’s youth sports pal. Relax. You don’t want your son growing up playing with dolls. Stop holding him back. It’s ok. He will be ok.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Cheating at youth is ridiculous. I know at least a half dozen kids that heldback in PAL and played on combo teams. Some kids quit or don't get to play because they think they stink. Tommy you don't stink Johnnie is 2 and a half years older than you thats why he is a 4th grade Myles Jones.

Two and a half years older ??? The vast majority of holdbacks are 3 to 9 months older. Stop making excuses for Tommy - maybe he just isn't good enough.


Or maybe you're just trying to justify why Tad needs to play up two years to be relevant. Having two kids that have played in college, the majority of the Tads ride pine because the others catch up. Yes they get recruited...not sure why, you'd think college coaches would be smarter than that. But those entitled parents have a great time being cheerleaders and drinking till they blackout at the games their kids dont even play in!

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Anonymous #301072 04/07/20 07:36 PM
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Comb team two grades. One kid early august repeats a grade plays vs late december young kid in lower ,grade dec 31 cut off. Tommy doesn't know this he is 5.

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Anonymous #301073 04/07/20 09:25 PM
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This is Tad, I dominated Tommy in PAL be cause I am on 3 different travel teams and I am so good that I played 3rd grade lacrosse twice just like I was in 3rd grade twice. It has made me twice as good.

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lax516 #301078 04/08/20 08:32 AM
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There is no rational, logical, intelligent argument against kids playing youth sports with and against kids their own age. Sorry.

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lax516 #301084 04/08/20 10:11 AM
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There is no argument at all. Holdback parents try so hard explaining there reasoning. It sounds comical.

My kid wants to play with classmates.
Answer. no, he will make new friends. Parents of kids in other sports have no choice. It’s age based.

My kid was academically/socially not ready at time kindergarten started, so we held him back.
Answer, I hope your son does well in life. No problem. However in youth sports, he still plays his age.

My family moved around a lot, needed to change schools. Had to redo 2nd grade.
Answer. Ok academically it’s more important, I hope he does well. I hope your new home is nice. However youth sports he plays his age.

My son has a birthday in July or August.
Answer. Sept 1st. That’s the cutoff date for this sport. That’s the way it goes. There has to be a date. Tell your son in 20 years to get his wife pregnant 8 months before cutoff date. This is the most ridiculous argument of them all.

My oldest sons birthday is in 2 weeks. APRIL. So he isn’t near cut off date. He plays with kids 8 months older. If I held him back according to cutoff date he would be 4 to 16 months older than everyone else. I’d be embarrassed being a dad on sideline watching my son do well against younger, smaller kids. They are little kids. It’s Youth sports If other dads had this way of thinking, this sport would be great. High school is different.

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Anonymous #301090 04/08/20 10:41 AM
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This is Tad, I dominated Tommy in PAL be cause I am on 3 different travel teams and I am so good that I played 3rd grade lacrosse twice just like I was in 3rd grade twice. It has made me twice as good.


So if you repeated a grade and played on three travel teams shouldn't you be 6x as "good" as Tommy. Clearly you aren't that "good" if you are only "twice as good."

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Anonymous #301092 04/08/20 11:43 AM
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So true. Now that holdback dad will come on here again and start talking about cutoff dates again for the 5th time.


Not the parent of a holdback but dont you need to have a cutoff date in order to classify someone as a holdback. I think its ridiculous that lacrosse does not have age restrictions that continue thru high school travel tournaments as all other sorts have. Look on the girls side and IL keeps promoting the same high school holdbacks even writing about how these poor kids are going to miss their senior season of high school lax when none of them should even be in high school anymore.

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So true. Now that holdback dad will come on here again and start talking about cutoff dates again for the 5th time.


Not the parent of a holdback but dont you need to have a cutoff date in order to classify someone as a holdback. I think its ridiculous that lacrosse does not have age restrictions that continue thru high school travel tournaments as all other sorts have. Look on the girls side and IL keeps promoting the same high school holdbacks even writing about how these poor kids are going to miss their senior season of high school lax when none of them should even be in high school anymore.


So true....they’re always preaching how they want to “grow the game” phrase only pertains to the entitled spoiled cheaters. A shame! There will be “kids” on my sons college team last year who will be 26. Yikes!

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lax516 #301103 04/08/20 02:32 PM
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I always find it hilarious when the announcers of the big holdback High School teams tell us how great this Senior is and that senior is. Well they should be, they should be College Freshman.

Boys Latin in MD a few years ago was one of the top teams in country. Every starter was a holdback except ONE ! Basically a College Freshman team .

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