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Re: Boys High School [Re: B_O_T_C] #297637
12/15/19 09:49 AM
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Can someone explain on UA process is a sham? You know with actually facts. I thought Baltimore team won the Command 2 years in a row. Seems like they did a pretty good job picking the right players. I’ve been in the room when they’ve picked the team. Around 10 evaluators from all different clubs and schools talking about jersey numbers on a whiteboard. Maybe it’s not perfect but it’s not a sham and it’s produced two back to back champions.

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12/15/19 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Can someone explain on UA process is a sham? You know with actually facts. I thought Baltimore team won the Command 2 years in a row. Seems like they did a pretty good job picking the right players. I’ve been in the room when they’ve picked the team. Around 10 evaluators from all different clubs and schools talking about jersey numbers on a whiteboard. Maybe it’s not perfect but it’s not a sham and it’s produced two back to back champions.


My son didn't make the team despite my wife and I agreeing with his grandfather that he is the best player in the area. Fact

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12/16/19 08:40 AM
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It is simple, 'Parity' or to at least attempt to have Parity. Sounds funny when it comes from the NLF because they are notorious for excluding entire Clubs from their events. NLF was the top tier and then UA,Warrior and Showtime slowly started to grow and surpass them. Bitterness also plays a major factor because it is well known and very true that UA has the worst and dishonest selection process for picking a team. Year after Year in every region there is a major bias from local lacrosse leaders and coaches for certain players to make or not make the team. Baltimore and Dc this year is a good example. Look at the coaching staffs and all the evaluators then look at each roster and see how many players are directly tied to them. NLF is simply trying to get back at the top of the club tournament and recruiting showcases. UA is so big now it will be hard to compete but there is a ton of players that get passed up and these tryouts that the market is there to try.
Not to mention the amount of money lost and the amount to be made!

This post is hilarious.

Fact check: Yes the UA selection process is flawed and biased but the last time I checked the DC and Baltimore teams (boys) were in the Highlight finals and the DC Command team won the whole thing. The Crabs had numerous kids on both teams? I would posit, Crabs kids had a big leg up in trying out for both of these UA markets.

Recruiting tournament landscape: Yes, Warrior and Showtime have surpassed the NLF event in relevancy but unless NLF opens up their ranks and allows open participation, they will never be more than a niche event. I believe its all about the Benjamins. If you give up your day job and count on Club Lax to pay the bills and simultaneously lose some of your relevancy you have a tendency to lash out at your perceived persecutors. Parents who fall for this "Elmer Gantry" bombastic proclamations and threats need to have their heads examined. If your kid is good enough, the King Crab needs you much more than you need him.


Warrior and Showtime have passed NLF events, hopefully you are joking ! They are different and arent even close. . The NLF championship alone draws just about every coach in D1, Teams from all over country with crazy good players,

Maybe you need to make an NLF team and see what competition is like and who is out there recruiting before spouting off.

NLF does not allow all teams in . joke .


Obviously your son didnt make a NLF team. So what teams are left out that would compete against the best ? Give us some names


Hawks, FCA for starters. Plenty of other clubs have great teams at certain age groups - Looneys, 91MD locally. Off top of my head Brotherly Love, Igloo, Edge Canada, 24/7. NLF doesn't have a monopoly on the best players



There were a bunch of Hawks teams at NLF events last year. Not sure what the process to attend is if your are not an NLF Club but obviously it happens.

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Re: Boys High School [Re: Anonymous] #297661
12/16/19 12:06 PM
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Can someone explain on UA process is a sham? You know with actually facts. I thought Baltimore team won the Command 2 years in a row. Seems like they did a pretty good job picking the right players. I’ve been in the room when they’ve picked the team. Around 10 evaluators from all different clubs and schools talking about jersey numbers on a whiteboard. Maybe it’s not perfect but it’s not a sham and it’s produced two back to back champions.


Fact: the DC squad won the Command title last year. The Baltimore team got knocked out by them in the semis after beating them in group play. Two evenly matched teams. Parents and club coaches can disparage the selection process and outcome, but the fact is the Baltimore Highlight team was the champion last year and the Command team was arguably the second best team in the tournament. Few the folks griping have ever picked a championship all star team. Its not the best 22 players. Its the best players at the role being targeted. Watch John Danowksi pick the US team, he was picking the "best" team not the "best" 22 players.

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Can someone explain on UA process is a sham? You know with actually facts. I thought Baltimore team won the Command 2 years in a row. Seems like they did a pretty good job picking the right players. I’ve been in the room when they’ve picked the team. Around 10 evaluators from all different clubs and schools talking about jersey numbers on a whiteboard. Maybe it’s not perfect but it’s not a sham and it’s produced two back to back champions.


Fact: the DC squad won the Command title last year. The Baltimore team got knocked out by them in the semis after beating them in group play. Two evenly matched teams. Parents and club coaches can disparage the selection process and outcome, but the fact is the Baltimore Highlight team was the champion last year and the Command team was arguably the second best team in the tournament. Few the folks griping have ever picked a championship all star team. Its not the best 22 players. Its the best players at the role being targeted. Watch John Danowksi pick the US team, he was picking the "best" team not the "best" 22 players.


From UA site " The TRYOUT is intended to select the top 22 players regardless of what school, state, or club team affiliation.' . It says the best players not the best players to form a team. If that was the case, it would be littered with players that are from same team/club/League that know coach/coaches and their style. And that is exactly what people complain about. Better players being left out that are not affiliated with the coaches. Hot bed areas like Balt are lucky as there is not much different in skill of top players , but everyone knows there are many players with a better tryout that are left out due to others who are known community. Does Balt get a bad team, nope, it just is not a tryout like advertised by UA. It is supposed to be a showcase of players for one weekend, not a team that will be performing for your country where you need cohesion of players due to the amount of practices and games.

It is a tryout for 5- 7 players at most...the rest are already on the team and everyone knows it irregardless of how they perform that day. Frankly many do perform well and deserve it so it is not like a huge amount get in that dont deserve it either.

UA could just as easily ask the coaches in MIAA and a couple local clubs who are top players and get the result they do without any tryout. But of course they wouldnt get that much income from that.

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Can someone explain on UA process is a sham? You know with actually facts. I thought Baltimore team won the Command 2 years in a row. Seems like they did a pretty good job picking the right players. I’ve been in the room when they’ve picked the team. Around 10 evaluators from all different clubs and schools talking about jersey numbers on a whiteboard. Maybe it’s not perfect but it’s not a sham and it’s produced two back to back champions.


Fact: the DC squad won the Command title last year. The Baltimore team got knocked out by them in the semis after beating them in group play. Two evenly matched teams. Parents and club coaches can disparage the selection process and outcome, but the fact is the Baltimore Highlight team was the champion last year and the Command team was arguably the second best team in the tournament. Few the folks griping have ever picked a championship all star team. Its not the best 22 players. Its the best players at the role being targeted. Watch John Danowksi pick the US team, he was picking the "best" team not the "best" 22 players.


From UA site " The TRYOUT is intended to select the top 22 players regardless of what school, state, or club team affiliation.' . It says the best players not the best players to form a team. If that was the case, it would be littered with players that are from same team/club/League that know coach/coaches and their style. And that is exactly what people complain about. Better players being left out that are not affiliated with the coaches. Hot bed areas like Balt are lucky as there is not much different in skill of top players , but everyone knows there are many players with a better tryout that are left out due to others who are known community. Does Balt get a bad team, nope, it just is not a tryout like advertised by UA. It is supposed to be a showcase of players for one weekend, not a team that will be performing for your country where you need cohesion of players due to the amount of practices and games.

It is a tryout for 5- 7 players at most...the rest are already on the team and everyone knows it irregardless of how they perform that day. Frankly many do perform well and deserve it so it is not like a huge amount get in that dont deserve it either.

UA could just as easily ask the coaches in MIAA and a couple local clubs who are top players and get the result they do without any tryout. But of course they wouldnt get that much income from that.





I really don't care what the UA tryout advertisement says: the coaches of the respective regional team are trying to field a team that gives them the best shot of winning, period. The boys are trying out for a team which best reflects the region. They don't care about the showcase nature of it, they want to win! The Baltimore area did your proposed all star selection process in the past and was summarily beaten repeatedly (during the past decade), Invariably they suffered from failing to put SSDMs, two way middies and "glue guys" on the team and hence they lost. Every HC worth anything tries to field the best team period. And yes these teams practice 3-4 times and try to become more cohesive over the tournament.

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12/16/19 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Can someone explain on UA process is a sham? You know with actually facts. I thought Baltimore team won the Command 2 years in a row. Seems like they did a pretty good job picking the right players. I’ve been in the room when they’ve picked the team. Around 10 evaluators from all different clubs and schools talking about jersey numbers on a whiteboard. Maybe it’s not perfect but it’s not a sham and it’s produced two back to back champions.

Fact: the DC squad won the Command title last year. The Baltimore team got knocked out by them in the semis after beating them in group play. Two evenly matched teams. Parents and club coaches can disparage the selection process and outcome, but the fact is the Baltimore Highlight team was the champion last year and the Command team was arguably the second best team in the tournament. Few the folks griping have ever picked a championship all star team. Its not the best 22 players. Its the best players at the role being targeted. Watch John Danowksi pick the US team, he was picking the "best" team not the "best" 22 players.

From UA site " The TRYOUT is intended to select the top 22 players regardless of what school, state, or club team affiliation.' . It says the best players not the best players to form a team. If that was the case, it would be littered with players that are from same team/club/League that know coach/coaches and their style. And that is exactly what people complain about. Better players being left out that are not affiliated with the coaches. Hot bed areas like Balt are lucky as there is not much different in skill of top players , but everyone knows there are many players with a better tryout that are left out due to others who are known community. Does Balt get a bad team, nope, it just is not a tryout like advertised by UA. It is supposed to be a showcase of players for one weekend, not a team that will be performing for your country where you need cohesion of players due to the amount of practices and games.

It is a tryout for 5- 7 players at most...the rest are already on the team and everyone knows it irregardless of how they perform that day. Frankly many do perform well and deserve it so it is not like a huge amount get in that dont deserve it either.

UA could just as easily ask the coaches in MIAA and a couple local clubs who are top players and get the result they do without any tryout. But of course they wouldnt get that much income from that.


I really don't care what the UA tryout advertisement says: the coaches of the respective regional team are trying to field a team that gives them the best shot of winning, period. The boys are trying out for a team which best reflects the region. They don't care about the showcase nature of it, they want to win! The Baltimore area did your proposed all star selection process in the past and was summarily beaten repeatedly (during the past decade), Invariably they suffered from failing to put SSDMs, two way middies and "glue guys" on the team and hence they lost. Every HC worth anything tries to field the best team period. And yes these teams practice 3-4 times and try to become more cohesive over the tournament.


You confirm just what I stated, Baltimore team and many others are fielding teams that have players that are not the 22 Best players. Everyone knows that a bunch of top players along with some great role players makes a better team than a bunch of top players only who may or may not play well together.

I think your beef is with UA and its advertisement. Maybe get them to change it to the best players to form a team not 22 Best players . That would be more truthful according to you.

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Re: Boys High School [Re: B_O_T_C] #297757
12/19/19 05:41 PM
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https://www.underarmourlacrosse.com/underclass-tournament/2020boys/

Watch the video on the DC tryouts: there is no false advertising here. Listening and reading comprehension is an underrated skill in life.

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Re: Boys High School [Re: Anonymous] #297760
12/19/19 08:01 PM
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https://www.underarmourlacrosse.com/underclass-tournament/2020boys/

Watch the video on the DC tryouts: there is no false advertising here. Listening and reading comprehension is an underrated skill in life.


So is being not being gullible to hype and talk.

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Re: Boys High School [Re: B_O_T_C] #297764
12/20/19 07:54 AM
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Wonder how many Spalding and SJC kids make it this since their coaches will not be coaching?

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12/21/19 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wonder how many Spalding and SJC kids make it this since their coaches will not be coaching?



Who are the coaches this year?

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12/21/19 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Wonder how many Spalding and SJC kids make it this since their coaches will not be coaching?



Who are the coaches this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wonder how many Spalding and SJC kids make it this since their coaches will not be coaching?


No Coaches listed on UA website. Inside info?

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12/21/19 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Wonder how many Spalding and SJC kids make it this since their coaches will not be coaching?



Who are the coaches this year?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wonder how many Spalding and SJC kids make it this since their coaches will not be coaching?


No Coaches listed on UA website. Inside info?


Don’t see too many 22s making any team this coming year unless the 21s are weak in a given region. NLF event will be good for the 22s this year. Don’t forget who won the tournament this year hater. 🤡

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12/28/19 09:34 PM
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Slainte is 2022.

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12/30/19 08:36 AM
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Slainte is 2022.


And also all 17.

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