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Simple fix! Get involved! Every person on here has great intentions but if you were all in this for the development of lacrosse, actions speak louder than words!

The problem is the area and many areas have the room for a solid club lacrosse program. When other programs move in and start trying to take over under the disguise of club lacrosse and are selling parents more on "you can say your kid plays club" vs programs like Crabs, Hawks, Looneys, Madlax, BLC. Established dominant programs where a lot of kids can't make it. Those are elite clubs and should be considered club lacrosse playing year round. Elite talent that wants to play year round deserves that. These owners and directors have worked extremely hard to build a quality product. They didn't plop trough in town and say, give me a check and I'll put your kid on a "club team" so you can play club. Then sit back and laugh while it failed and they still got paid. There is a reason you hardly see B teams for Crabs and Hawks. They could have 4 teams at each age, but the focus is not on money, it's on building a solid team. So the simple fix would be limiting the number of clubs and allowing kids that don't make one of those teams to develop in rec programs. But the True's and Mesa's and whoever knows what's next would not like that I suspect. Until you get rid of club teams that are really rec teams and parents keep paying, this is a lost cause.

don't forget FCA, they will accept 150 kids and their money deposits to tryout for 1 or 2 open spots on a Blue team. They also have a second team who helps finance the top teams tournaments.

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Simple fix! Get involved! Every person on here has great intentions but if you were all in this for the development of lacrosse, actions speak louder than words!

The problem is the area and many areas have the room for a solid club lacrosse program. When other programs move in and start trying to take over under the disguise of club lacrosse and are selling parents more on "you can say your kid plays club" vs programs like Crabs, Hawks, Looneys, Madlax, BLC. Established dominant programs where a lot of kids can't make it. Those are elite clubs and should be considered club lacrosse playing year round. Elite talent that wants to play year round deserves that. These owners and directors have worked extremely hard to build a quality product. They didn't plop trough in town and say, give me a check and I'll put your kid on a "club team" so you can play club. Then sit back and laugh while it failed and they still got paid. There is a reason you hardly see B teams for Crabs and Hawks. They could have 4 teams at each age, but the focus is not on money, it's on building a solid team. So the simple fix would be limiting the number of clubs and allowing kids that don't make one of those teams to develop in rec programs. But the True's and Mesa's and whoever knows what's next would not like that I suspect. Until you get rid of club teams that are really rec teams and parents keep paying, this is a lost cause.

don't forget FCA, they will accept 150 kids and their money deposits to tryout for 1 or 2 open spots on a Blue team. They also have a second team who helps finance the top teams tournaments.

fca hasn't been showing much of an elite status in MD lately.

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Open my pc this morning and their is a shameless add from True pushing their simple mouth guard as evolutionary. The hype never stops from the PT Barnum of youth sports. Everything they sell is special and better then the mouse trap. We train more!!! Lol.

Err...pretty sure that's not the lacrosse club.

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the person talking about a mouth guard has confused a lacrosse team with a mouth guard. https://www.truemouthguards.com/

Please stop drinking the water in Baltimore harbor
https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/09/23/baltimore-inner-harbor-water-quality-report-latest/

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Not seeing it in the Maryland teams. Dreadful.

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Not seeing it in the Maryland teams. Dreadful.

depends on the age.

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Not seeing it in the Maryland teams. Dreadful.

depends on the age.[/quote]

Or what states they have players available from to help.

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Somebody should have warned the True coach that Hawks and True are at war similar to the crips and bloods, and this Board is about 75% Hawks Dads, so anything relating to True will be crapped on. Oh well.

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How much is it to play for the "Atlantic" and also the "National" team

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It’s honestly not that expensive to play for the National True teams. Pricing is very in line with what other Midwest/west clubs charge.

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Somebody should have warned the True coach that Hawks and True are at war similar to the crips and bloods, and this Board is about 75% Hawks Dads, so anything relating to True will be crapped on. Oh well.

War? That's hilarious. Hawks don't care about True. They don't compete against each other. Ignore the 2026 stunad Dads on this message board please and don't assign them to the rest of the Hawks parents.

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Somebody should have warned the True coach that Hawks and True are at war similar to the crips and bloods, and this Board is about 75% Hawks Dads, so anything relating to True will be crapped on. Oh well.

War? That's hilarious. Hawks don't care about True. They don't compete against each other. Ignore the 2026 stunad Dads on this message board please and don't assign them to the rest of the Hawks parents.

100% None of the True teams have won an elite tournament to my knowledge. Happy to be proven wrong. I can't imagine True will be playing elite in hoco anyway. Not a hawk dad, but there's a huge diff from top level div 1/3 coaches to no div 1 coaches. Team MD does this same promotion stuff and then gets stuffed at an elite tournament.

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Somebody should have warned the True coach that Hawks and True are at war similar to the crips and bloods, and this Board is about 75% Hawks Dads, so anything relating to True will be crapped on. Oh well.

War? That's hilarious. Hawks don't care about True. They don't compete against each other. Ignore the 2026 stunad Dads on this message board please and don't assign them to the rest of the Hawks parents.

Hawks compared to True is like comparing a professional team to a High School team.

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Somebody should have warned the True coach that Hawks and True are at war similar to the crips and bloods, and this Board is about 75% Hawks Dads, so anything relating to True will be crapped on. Oh well.

War? That's hilarious. Hawks don't care about True. They don't compete against each other. Ignore the 2026 stunad Dads on this message board please and don't assign them to the rest of the Hawks parents.

100% None of the True teams have won an elite tournament to my knowledge. Happy to be proven wrong. I can't imagine True will be playing elite in hoco anyway. Not a hawk dad, but there's a huge diff from top level div 1/3 coaches to no div 1 coaches. Team MD does this same promotion stuff and then gets stuffed at an elite tournament.

But, we train more ... True on 2!

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Not seeing it in the Maryland teams. Dreadful.

depends on the age.

“True Lacrosse has maintained its standing as the leader in training and developing high level athletes.” Does not specify an age group.

not location. MD has many strong established clubs, it will harder for TRUE to maintain talent than other areas of the country. TRUE IL and MN are probably some of the better programs in those areas, and are the club that the states talent attracts to. TRUE MD will develop talent, but just like most other clubs they will lose the developed talent to Crabs, Hawks, Looney's & FCA as these clubs cherry pick the already developed talented kids.

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Very accurate, TRUE Pittsburgh had a great kid who wound up leaving to play for Crabs. TRUE noticed the kid and developed the kid, well they did such a good job he was recruited by Crabs. He only played tournaments.

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“True Lacrosse has maintained its standing as the leader in training and developing high level athletes.” Does not specify an age group.[/quote]

not location. MD has many strong established clubs, it will harder for TRUE to maintain talent than other areas of the country. TRUE IL and MN are probably some of the better programs in those areas, and are the club that the states talent attracts to. TRUE MD will develop talent, but just like most other clubs they will lose the developed talent to Crabs, Hawks, Looney's & FCA as these clubs cherry pick the already developed talented kids.[/quote]

Your point just illustrates consumerism. Athletes are born. The biggest, fastest, strongest will excel on a rec team or club, under daddy supervision, or with buddies playing pickup. In other words “developing lacrosse talent” regarding the gifted happens on any or no club.
There is no secret sauce. True is in the Midwest what Crabs once was on the East Coast. The first and for a while only game in town. So it built a brand. In contrast all the wannabe club kids and parents seeking gear and car decals do not get developed into superstars on these clubs ans most would be better off getting more reps on weak in house rec teams. Buying into the club Director BS makes you a sucker.

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The fact this board is talking about True shows how much hawks resents the club; again parents bickering at each other!!! Embarrassing to say the least.

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Somebody should have warned the True coach that Hawks and True are at war similar to the crips and bloods, and this Board is about 75% Hawks Dads, so anything relating to True will be crapped on. Oh well.

War? That's hilarious. Hawks don't care about True. They don't compete against each other. Ignore the 2026 stunad Dads on this message board please and don't assign them to the rest of the Hawks parents.

Hawks compared to True is like comparing a professional team to a High School team.

Yes, big difference between the two teams, but the poster who referred to the crips and bloods was accurate in that a few parents on the two teams strongly dislike each other. Their passion gives a bad look to both programs. If you doubt me, go over to the 2026 board and read some of the stuff they say about each other.

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Its funny most of the Hawks/True kids play with each other in other sports, The parents all see each other all the time. The trolls on this board are a joke.

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Its funny most of the Hawks/True kids play with each other in other sports, The parents all see each other all the time. The trolls on this board are a joke.

It’s the same two Hawks Dads. Same ones that You will see chirping directly to your sons in the middle of a game.

Rest of the Hawks parents are solid folks.

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I feel sorry for the sons of those two.

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“True Lacrosse has maintained its standing as the leader in training and developing high level athletes.” Does not specify an age group.

not location. MD has many strong established clubs, it will harder for TRUE to maintain talent than other areas of the country. TRUE IL and MN are probably some of the better programs in those areas, and are the club that the states talent attracts to. TRUE MD will develop talent, but just like most other clubs they will lose the developed talent to Crabs, Hawks, Looney's & FCA as these clubs cherry pick the already developed talented kids.[/quote]

Your point just illustrates consumerism. Athletes are born. The biggest, fastest, strongest will excel on a rec team or club, under daddy supervision, or with buddies playing pickup. In other words “developing lacrosse talent” regarding the gifted happens on any or no club.
There is no secret sauce. True is in the Midwest what Crabs once was on the East Coast. The first and for a while only game in town. So it built a brand. In contrast all the wannabe club kids and parents seeking gear and car decals do not get developed into superstars on these clubs ans most would be better off getting more reps on weak in house rec teams. Buying into the club Director BS makes you a sucker.[/quote]

you're missing the point. TRUE is developing kids to be the best they can be athletically and lax wise. The top players in the MD will then gravitate to the top clubs stated above. TRUE will give you other opportunities to play outside your region for other TRUE teams if you're will to travel. TRUE is just starting out in the MD area, give them time before knocking them. Many of the previous management from the clubs that merged with them have moved on or will be in the near future.

it's a ridiculous argument to make that if a kid isn't on one of the top four clubs then he should be playing in house rec ball. rec ball ends at 8th grade, so kids who aren't good enough for one of the top 4 clubs shouldn't play outside of school then? people shouldn't be talking to much trash on different clubs as well, there is a good chance their kid could get cut or lose significant playing time and be forced to moves to one of the many non-top four programs.

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Its funny most of the Hawks/True kids play with each other in other sports, The parents all see each other all the time. The trolls on this board are a joke.

It’s the same two Hawks Dads. Same ones that You will see chirping directly to your sons in the middle of a game.

Rest of the Hawks parents are solid folks.

nothing worse than some 40 some year adult yelling at a player on the other team

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Its funny most of the Hawks/True kids play with each other in other sports, The parents all see each other all the time. The trolls on this board are a joke.

It’s the same two Hawks Dads. Same ones that You will see chirping directly to your sons in the middle of a game.

Rest of the Hawks parents are solid folks.

nothing worse than some 40 some year adult yelling at a player on the other team

that is approx. 40% of lax parents from Baltimore area and 80% from New Jersey & New York.

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Looks like True didn’t bother to do any box training before going to the Philly tournament. Stop posting and do real training, on 2!

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Its funny most of the Hawks/True kids play with each other in other sports, The parents all see each other all the time. The trolls on this board are a joke.

It’s the same two Hawks Dads. Same ones that You will see chirping directly to your sons in the middle of a game.

Rest of the Hawks parents are solid folks.

nothing worse than some 40 some year adult yelling at a player on the other team

that is approx. 40% of lax parents from Baltimore area and 80% from New Jersey & New York.

I would say 60% and 75% . Parents need to do something on sidelines

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Looks like True didn’t bother to do any box training before going to the Philly tournament. Stop posting and do real training, on 2!

True is a money grab . Why train,,Take money and play

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Its a Business , they will nickel and dime you , with state teams , national teams , box teams , the only thing they train more is your wallet ...

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For the 2025 age group, the True box team did not fare well at the Philadelphia tournament. They were listed as the Maryland Box Turtles and were outscored 24-4 in 3 games. The kids were not prepared.

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For the 2025 age group, the True box team did not fare well at the Philadelphia tournament. They were listed as the Maryland Box Turtles and were outscored 24-4 in 3 games. The kids were not prepared.


You can't make this stuff up.

The video:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CLJzhVohY7G/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


The Last tune-up before battle:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLIw4BsBB2_/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

The results?
#WeMehMore # MehOn2

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Trues other 2025 team (Lightning) lost in a shoot out to the team that won the A division.

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For the 2025 age group, the True box team did not fare well at the Philadelphia tournament. They were listed as the Maryland Box Turtles and were outscored 24-4 in 3 games. The kids were not prepared.


You can't make this stuff up.

The video:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CLJzhVohY7G/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link


The Last tune-up before battle:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLIw4BsBB2_/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

The results?
#WeMehMore # MehOn2

That is Hilarious. Video is got to go down as one of biggest WT? music are they attempting to convey to the players/parents

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Trues other 2025 team (Lightning) lost in a shoot out to the team that won the A division.....

While that is accurate, it doesn't tell the whole story. They also lost to Freedom 6-3, going 1-2 for the day. The team that won the A division was Penn Lax 2026 - very good box team.

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Trues other 2025 team (Lightning) lost in a shoot out to the team that won the A division.....

While that is accurate, it doesn't tell the whole story. They also lost to Freedom 6-3, going 1-2 for the day. The team that won the A division was Penn Lax 2026 - very good box team.

Thanks Coach. Team just cant compete no matter how you spin it

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[/quote]True is a money grab . Why train,,Take money and play[/quote]

I've been around lacrosse the past 20 years, ALL clubs are a money grab. parents are pay $2000 and up for club when they used to pay about $100 for rec. True is no more of a money grab then any other club, please enlighten everyone as to what club isn't overly priced

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[/quote]True is a money grab . Why train,,Take money and play

I've been around lacrosse the past 20 years, ALL clubs are a money grab. parents are pay $2000 and up for club when they used to pay about $100 for rec. True is no more of a money grab then any other club, please enlighten everyone as to what club isn't overly priced[/quote]

True is charging the same or higher amounts as elite clubs in the area (hawks, 91, crabs,..) with lots of hype. The coaches they have are not as experienced and the results speak for themselves. Other clubs charge a lot less and get better results in B/C/D divisions. Personally I had hope when they came that we had a real competition to the hawks. Clearly that's not been the case.

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[/quote]True is a money grab . Why train,,Take money and play

I've been around lacrosse the past 20 years, ALL clubs are a money grab. parents are pay $2000 and up for club when they used to pay about $100 for rec. True is no more of a money grab then any other club, please enlighten everyone as to what club isn't overly priced[/quote]

They all make money, that is True, True is nothing but a pure money grab. National Club with a marketing campaign to take money from people like you,.

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True is a money grab . Why train,,Take money and play

I've been around lacrosse the past 20 years, ALL clubs are a money grab. parents are pay $2000 and up for club when they used to pay about $100 for rec. True is no more of a money grab then any other club, please enlighten everyone as to what club isn't overly priced[/quote]

True is charging the same or higher amounts as elite clubs in the area (hawks, 91, crabs,..) with lots of hype. The coaches they have are not as experienced and the results speak for themselves. Other clubs charge a lot less and get better results in B/C/D divisions. Personally I had hope when they came that we had a real competition to the hawks. Clearly that's not been the case.[/quote]


True can compete with Hawks and did so in the fall. Pretty sure it was a one goal game. The gap has closed on Hawks

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True is a money grab . Why train,,Take money and play

I've been around lacrosse the past 20 years, ALL clubs are a money grab. parents are pay $2000 and up for club when they used to pay about $100 for rec. True is no more of a money grab then any other club, please enlighten everyone as to what club isn't overly priced

True is charging the same or higher amounts as elite clubs in the area (hawks, 91, crabs,..) with lots of hype. The coaches they have are not as experienced and the results speak for themselves. Other clubs charge a lot less and get better results in B/C/D divisions. Personally I had hope when they came that we had a real competition to the hawks. Clearly that's not been the case.[/quote]


True can compete with Hawks and did so in the fall. Pretty sure it was a one goal game. The gap has closed on Hawks[/quote]

Elaborate on this. Which True team and what was the score?

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