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Time will tell but the U15 (age based) US team will put to rest many hold back accusations. Holdbacks are on these teams but not the best players on these teams. Wait and see next year when kids you call holdbacks prove they are one age. The team will feature Crabs and Hawks players.


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The FO kid from Michigan is REALLY good. He played in some tournaments in the East over the Summer and dominated some of the FO kids from top programs. He's a 2023, although I'm not sure if he's on age.



Michigan kid is a 2005 birth year - 9th grader. He will still qualify for U15 team next year if he stays good enough.

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Technically - you are wrong. Time will tell, but not in the way you hope. If by chance there are are 'holdback' hawks and crabs players as you say... they will not be eligible for U15 next year. They will be the lower end of the U17 bracket. 2023 is 2023, but U15 is actually U15

Missing the point. Not even sure why I bother. Time will tell that the Hawks and Crabs players YOU THINK are holdback are NOT holdbacks. There are some, yes, but they are not the top players. The top players are ON age and will make the U15 team because they will still be U15 and 2023 like most normal rising 10th graders.


Fake news. Crabs players are almost all holdbacks, including all three of the starting attackmen, defense, and midfield. Hawks do have some holdbacks, but no where near as many as the Crabs.

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Now that fall tourneys are almost over, did any of the player movements make a difference? How do the True teams fit into the ranks? Did FCA and Loonies gain or lose ground? Did 91's new players elevate them any this year? Dogs & Hawks?

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Now that fall tourneys are almost over, did any of the player movements make a difference? How do the True teams fit into the ranks? Did FCA and Loonies gain or lose ground? Did 91's new players elevate them any this year? Dogs & Hawks?


Based on IL and NAL tournaments it appears Looney's is slightly better, FCA is slightly worse, 91 with Texas Kids and Holdbacks is better, Dogs seems to be holding steady and impressive, Hawks and True Atlantic are elite.

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Now that fall tourneys are almost over, did any of the player movements make a difference? How do the True teams fit into the ranks? Did FCA and Loonies gain or lose ground? Did 91's new players elevate them any this year? Dogs & Hawks?


Based on IL and NAL tournaments it appears Looney's is slightly better, FCA is slightly worse, 91 with Texas Kids and Holdbacks is better, Dogs seems to be holding steady and impressive, Hawks and True Atlantic are elite.

VLC went undefeated and beat the snot out of every B level team they played this fall.

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The True National Atlantic team is indeed elite. They play fast, skilled and very unselfish. Always looking for the one more pass and constant moving off ball. Was hoping to watch 91 bandits and True play. Would be pulling for True. Definitely one of the best teams in the country. Some really good 2023 teams out there.

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Now that fall tourneys are almost over, did any of the player movements make a difference? How do the True teams fit into the ranks? Did FCA and Loonies gain or lose ground? Did 91's new players elevate them any this year? Dogs & Hawks?


Based on IL and NAL tournaments it appears Looney's is slightly better, FCA is slightly worse, 91 with Texas Kids and Holdbacks is better, Dogs seems to be holding steady and impressive, Hawks and True Atlantic are elite.

Crabs are still the top team in Baltimore and on any given weekend the top team. True is True but they have players from these teams so hard to compare.

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Now that fall tourneys are almost over, did any of the player movements make a difference? How do the True teams fit into the ranks? Did FCA and Loonies gain or lose ground? Did 91's new players elevate them any this year? Dogs & Hawks?


Based on IL and NAL tournaments it appears Looney's is slightly better, FCA is slightly worse, 91 with Texas Kids and Holdbacks is better, Dogs seems to be holding steady and impressive, Hawks and True Atlantic are elite.

Crabs are still the top team in Baltimore and on any given weekend the top team. True is True but they have players from these teams so hard to compare.


All star teams shouldn't really count in any kind of rankings, unless you're ranking just the All Star teams.

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Now that fall tourneys are almost over, did any of the player movements make a difference? How do the True teams fit into the ranks? Did FCA and Loonies gain or lose ground? Did 91's new players elevate them any this year? Dogs & Hawks?


Based on IL and NAL tournaments it appears Looney's is slightly better, FCA is slightly worse, 91 with Texas Kids and Holdbacks is better, Dogs seems to be holding steady and impressive, Hawks and True Atlantic are elite.

Crabs are still the top team in Baltimore and on any given weekend the top team. True is True but they have players from these teams so hard to compare.


I am pretty sure Hawks knocked Crabs from the number one spot last year; Hawks is clearly the best team in Baltimore. Thanks for playing.

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Now that fall tourneys are almost over, did any of the player movements make a difference? How do the True teams fit into the ranks? Did FCA and Loonies gain or lose ground? Did 91's new players elevate them any this year? Dogs & Hawks?


Based on IL and NAL tournaments it appears Looney's is slightly better, FCA is slightly worse, 91 with Texas Kids and Holdbacks is better, Dogs seems to be holding steady and impressive, Hawks and True Atlantic are elite.

Crabs are still the top team in Baltimore and on any given weekend the top team. True is True but they have players from these teams so hard to compare.


I am pretty sure Hawks knocked Crabs from the number one spot last year; Hawks is clearly the best team in Baltimore. Thanks for playing.

The HOCO results say otherwise. Since when are the Hawks a Baltimore team?

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So I guess Crabs is a DC team or Texas team when they have players from other States play? Hawks are in HOCO so yes they choose to play in Bmore. Sorry but the sun has set on the Crustacean Empire.

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Now that fall tourneys are almost over, did any of the player movements make a difference? How do the True teams fit into the ranks? Did FCA and Loonies gain or lose ground? Did 91's new players elevate them any this year? Dogs & Hawks?


Based on IL and NAL tournaments it appears Looney's is slightly better, FCA is slightly worse, 91 with Texas Kids and Holdbacks is better, Dogs seems to be holding steady and impressive, Hawks and True Atlantic are elite.

Crabs are still the top team in Baltimore and on any given weekend the top team. True is True but they have players from these teams so hard to compare.


All star teams shouldn't really count in any kind of rankings, unless you're ranking just the All Star teams.


Give me a break. Crabs is an all star team

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So I guess Crabs is a DC team or Texas team when they have players from other States play? Hawks are in HOCO so yes they choose to play in Bmore. Sorry but the sun has set on the Crustacean Empire.


2023 Crabs is the last good team for Crabs. Done after that.

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I am pretty sure Hawks knocked Crabs from the number one spot last year; Hawks is clearly the best team in Baltimore. Thanks for playing.

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I am pretty sure Hawks knocked Crabs from the number one spot last year; Hawks is clearly the best team in Baltimore. Thanks for playing.

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Hawks are yesterday's news as they get older. Crabs are top team this year and will continue as they go thru high school years. Hawks will continue their spiral downward until they graduate, or what is left of them .

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I am pretty sure Hawks knocked Crabs from the number one spot last year; Hawks is clearly the best team in Baltimore. Thanks for playing.

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Hawks are yesterday's news as they get older. Crabs are top team this year and will continue as they go thru high school years. Hawks will continue their spiral downward until they graduate, or what is left of them .


I could care less, really... I dislike both the Crabs and Hawks parents as they all act foolish on the sideline. That said, as long as the Hawks have the best goalie, pole, attackman, and import the FO to address that need, they are clearly the best team. Dogs have the best coaching which is why they hang around.

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Dogs players have kids on the 2032 team

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Dogs players have kids on the 2032 team


Maybe so but I am sure those laxdads could win a game v. the hawks or crabs laxdads

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Are we really going to do this....No one has posted here in months because we all moved on....This is so notIntelligent....

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Lot of grumblings at BL because their freshman didn’t make varsity...All of those dedicated years at Crabs and tournament t-shirts and you thought you were in..HaHaHa...

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Lot of grumblings at BL because their freshman didn’t make varsity...All of those dedicated years at Crabs and tournament t-shirts and you thought you were in..HaHaHa...

This post just made my coffee taste better and I didn’t think that was possible because my coffee is pretty good.

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Lot of grumblings at BL because their freshman didn’t make varsity...All of those dedicated years at Crabs and tournament t-shirts and you thought you were in..HaHaHa...


Tell me one MIAA school where freshman make Varsity and see the field? It happens but it is extremely rare; parents needs to wake up and let their kids enjoy playing.

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Lot of grumblings at BL because their freshman didn’t make varsity...All of those dedicated years at Crabs and tournament t-shirts and you thought you were in..HaHaHa...


Brightside is that they have some nice T -shirts !

BL Varsity was loaded with underclassman last year. They are still there. Limited spots available this year for the incoming sophomore aged class , oops I mean Freshman class

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Lot of grumblings at BL because their freshman didn’t make varsity...All of those dedicated years at Crabs and tournament t-shirts and you thought you were in..HaHaHa...


Tell me one MIAA school where freshman make Varsity and see the field? It happens but it is extremely rare; parents needs to wake up and let their kids enjoy playing.


CHC had one last year who averaged about 3 goals a game. Although he is both a year older, and a pretty rare talent. So, yeah...not very common.

More importantly, why would a kid (or parent) want to make varsity only to ride the bench all year. The High School team will be the only lacrosse all Spring, so kids should play where they will get to actually play.

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Lot of grumblings at BL because their freshman didn’t make varsity...All of those dedicated years at Crabs and tournament t-shirts and you thought you were in..HaHaHa...


No freshman goalie on V?

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Lot of grumblings at BL because their freshman didn’t make varsity...All of those dedicated years at Crabs and tournament t-shirts and you thought you were in..HaHaHa...


No freshman goalie on V?


It is one of the best high school programs in the country. This freshman kid will be fine he is great but no coach is going to bench a Senior Goalie (who by the way is going to a very good D1 school to play lax.) They are both very good but one is 4 years older so get a grip. This is a legit high school program who sends kids to college every year.

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Lot of grumblings at BL because their freshman didn’t make varsity...All of those dedicated years at Crabs and tournament t-shirts and you thought you were in..HaHaHa...


No freshman goalie on V?


It is one of the best high school programs in the country. This freshman kid will be fine he is great but no coach is going to bench a Senior Goalie (who by the way is going to a very good D1 school to play lax.) They are both very good but one is 4 years older so get a grip. This is a legit high school program who sends kids to college every year.


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What’s the scoop on the Looneys to Loyola pipeline with 2023?

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Anyone know why clubs have chosen to not post rosters? Poaching?

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What’s the scoop on the Looneys to Loyola pipeline with 2023?


Coaches are LB grads, LB head coach is now HC of 2023, several were already there for middle school, practice at LB

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Looneys 23 Orange has a lot of Loyola players. smile That was likely going to be the case even before Coach U decided to take the Looneys job.
Depending on how you count "starters", probably all but one of their 'starting' middies and attack are Loyola kids. Defense is a bit more diverse and the FOs are not at Loyola.

Not sure how all those kids did at Loyola tryouts...assuming most are on JV.

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Looneys 23 Orange has a lot of Loyola players. smile That was likely going to be the case even before Coach U decided to take the Looneys job.
Depending on how you count "starters", probably all but one of their 'starting' middies and attack are Loyola kids. Defense is a bit more diverse and the FOs are not at Loyola.

Not sure how all those kids did at Loyola tryouts...assuming most are on JV.


No freshman on varsity at LB.

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What’s the scoop on the Looneys to Loyola pipeline with 2023?


Looneys 23 Orange has a lot of Loyola players. smile That was likely going to be the case even before Coach U decided to take the Looneys job.
Depending on how you count "starters", probably all but one of their 'starting' middies and attack are Loyola kids. Defense is a bit more diverse and the FOs are not at Loyola.

Not sure how all those kids did at Loyola tryouts...assuming most are on JV.


No freshman on varsity at LB.


So the Loyola V HC also coaches Looneys 2023 but none made the V?

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What’s the scoop on the Looneys to Loyola pipeline with 2023?


Looneys 23 Orange has a lot of Loyola players. smile That was likely going to be the case even before Coach U decided to take the Looneys job.
Depending on how you count "starters", probably all but one of their 'starting' middies and attack are Loyola kids. Defense is a bit more diverse and the FOs are not at Loyola.

Not sure how all those kids did at Loyola tryouts...assuming most are on JV.


No freshman on varsity at LB.


So the Loyola V HC also coaches Looneys 2023 but none made the V?


Maybe none were projected to be contributors. What's the point of freshman on varsity if they don't play in the games?

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What’s the scoop on the Looneys to Loyola pipeline with 2023?


Looneys 23 Orange has a lot of Loyola players. smile That was likely going to be the case even before Coach U decided to take the Looneys job.
Depending on how you count "starters", probably all but one of their 'starting' middies and attack are Loyola kids. Defense is a bit more diverse and the FOs are not at Loyola.

Not sure how all those kids did at Loyola tryouts...assuming most are on JV.


No freshman on varsity at LB.


So the Loyola V HC also coaches Looneys 2023 but none made the V?


The Loyola 2023 class along with the BL 2023 class are both loaded and will be formidable over the next few years if they all stick together. The JV team at Loyola is mostly Freshmen across the board so it will be interesting to see them grow together over the next 4 years..

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What’s the scoop on the Looneys to Loyola pipeline with 2023?


Looneys 23 Orange has a lot of Loyola players. smile That was likely going to be the case even before Coach U decided to take the Looneys job.
Depending on how you count "starters", probably all but one of their 'starting' middies and attack are Loyola kids. Defense is a bit more diverse and the FOs are not at Loyola.

Not sure how all those kids did at Loyola tryouts...assuming most are on JV.


No freshman on varsity at LB.


So the Loyola V HC also coaches Looneys 2023 but none made the V?


Maybe none were projected to be contributors. What's the point of freshman on varsity if they don't play in the games?

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What’s the scoop on the Looneys to Loyola pipeline with 2023?


Looneys 23 Orange has a lot of Loyola players. smile That was likely going to be the case even before Coach U decided to take the Looneys job.
Depending on how you count "starters", probably all but one of their 'starting' middies and attack are Loyola kids. Defense is a bit more diverse and the FOs are not at Loyola.

Not sure how all those kids did at Loyola tryouts...assuming most are on JV.


No freshman on varsity at LB.


So the Loyola V HC also coaches Looneys 2023 but none made the V?


Maybe none were projected to be contributors. What's the point of freshman on varsity if they don't play in the games?


Most of the Looneys players at LB ended up on Jv. Two are on the freshman team. No reason to sit on the bench on varsity

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What’s the scoop on the Looneys to Loyola pipeline with 2023?


Looneys 23 Orange has a lot of Loyola players. smile That was likely going to be the case even before Coach U decided to take the Looneys job.
Depending on how you count "starters", probably all but one of their 'starting' middies and attack are Loyola kids. Defense is a bit more diverse and the FOs are not at Loyola.

Not sure how all those kids did at Loyola tryouts...assuming most are on JV.


No freshman on varsity at LB.


So the Loyola V HC also coaches Looneys 2023 but none made the V?


The Loyola 2023 class along with the BL 2023 class are both loaded and will be formidable over the next few years if they all stick together. The JV team at Loyola is mostly Freshmen across the board so it will be interesting to see them grow together over the next 4 years..


And less than a handful are on age 2023. The epidemic of holdbacks is finally here. There have always been some Prefirst/holdbacks in MIAA, but now it is out of control how many are !

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And less than a handful are on age 2023. The epidemic of holdbacks is finally here. There have always been some Prefirst/holdbacks in MIAA, but now it is out of control how many are !


As far as I'm aware, Looneys 2023 Orange has zero holdbacks. It's possible that one or two did a "Prefirst" holdback (a few kids don't have birthdays listed). None of them did an 8th grade holdback.

And based on many of the kids playing in age based box tournaments, the top kids are all "on age 2023". So they all just turned 15 or will in the next few months. 16 year olds wouldn't have been eligible for the U15 box tournaments the kids have been playing in over the Winter.

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And less than a handful are on age 2023. The epidemic of holdbacks is finally here. There have always been some Prefirst/holdbacks in MIAA, but now it is out of control how many are !


As far as I'm aware, Looneys 2023 Orange has zero holdbacks. It's possible that one or two did a "Prefirst" holdback (a few kids don't have birthdays listed). None of them did an 8th grade holdback.

And based on many of the kids playing in age based box tournaments, the top kids are all "on age 2023". So they all just turned 15 or will in the next few months. 16 year olds wouldn't have been eligible for the U15 box tournaments the kids have been playing in over the Winter.


BL is loaded ...and loaded with older 2023. Lets not pretend it is just a prefirst/holdback of one or two, LOL

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