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Does anyone care about your age if you take a pg year though?

I think the same "can't turn 19 prior to PG year" policy applies (at least is does for the Mid Atlantic Prep League schools (Lawrenceville, Hill, etc)

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Explain why freedom beat them with 13 guys then

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Explain why freedom beat them with 13 guys then


HUH?

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Explain why freedom beat them with 13 guys then


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Freedom beat hhh with less than 15 guys lol

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what was the score and where

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Explain why freedom beat them with 13 guys then


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Freedom beat hhh with less than 15 guys lol


Looks like the kids now have internet access at school

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what was the score and where

At nlf big 4 the won in ot

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Just a reminder that you guys are grown men and women arguing about children lmao

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Just a reminder that you guys are grown men and women arguing about children lmao


In all fairness, recent posts suggest it's children arguing with grown men and women

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LOL @ the NAL Fall Invitational: looks like they put NXT in the stone cold killers division and Igloo in the special needs division... with predictable results!

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It was pretty rough. BUT, I will say that I was impressed with how the NXT coaches continued to coach the kids up and stayed positive. It could have been easy to clam up and let the beatings happen but they didn't.

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It was pretty rough. BUT, I will say that I was impressed with how the NXT coaches continued to coach the kids up and stayed positive. It could have been easy to clam up and let the beatings happen but they didn't.


B team playing A+ teams, no chance

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It was pretty rough. BUT, I will say that I was impressed with how the NXT coaches continued to coach the kids up and stayed positive. It could have been easy to clam up and let the beatings happen but they didn't.


B team playing A+ teams, no chance


Makes no sense to have them play at that level. Kids will get demoralized quickly....play at a level where they can compete and keep trying to get better before moving up to AA events

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It was pretty rough. BUT, I will say that I was impressed with how the NXT coaches continued to coach the kids up and stayed positive. It could have been easy to clam up and let the beatings happen but they didn't.


B team playing A+ teams, no chance


Makes no sense to have them play at that level. Kids will get demoralized quickly....play at a level where they can compete and keep trying to get better before moving up to AA events

As the original post indicates, there were less competitive pools. NXT would have been better served swapping places with Igloo.

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It was pretty rough. BUT, I will say that I was impressed with how the NXT coaches continued to coach the kids up and stayed positive. It could have been easy to clam up and let the beatings happen but they didn't.


B team playing A+ teams, no chance


Makes no sense to have them play at that level. Kids will get demoralized quickly....play at a level where they can compete and keep trying to get better before moving up to AA events

As the original post indicates, there were less competitive pools. NXT would have been better served swapping places with Igloo.


Would have gone 0-3 in that bracket too... the beatings just wouldn’t have been as brutal

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It was pretty rough. BUT, I will say that I was impressed with how the NXT coaches continued to coach the kids up and stayed positive. It could have been easy to clam up and let the beatings happen but they didn't.


B team playing A+ teams, no chance


Makes no sense to have them play at that level. Kids will get demoralized quickly....play at a level where they can compete and keep trying to get better before moving up to AA events

As the original post indicates, there were less competitive pools. NXT would have been better served swapping places with Igloo.


Would have gone 0-3 in that bracket too... the beatings just wouldn’t have been as brutal


Pretty sure they could beat Sons.

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It was pretty rough. BUT, I will say that I was impressed with how the NXT coaches continued to coach the kids up and stayed positive. It could have been easy to clam up and let the beatings happen but they didn't.


B team playing A+ teams, no chance


Makes no sense to have them play at that level. Kids will get demoralized quickly....play at a level where they can compete and keep trying to get better before moving up to AA events

As the original post indicates, there were less competitive pools. NXT would have been better served swapping places with Igloo.


Would have gone 0-3 in that bracket too... the beatings just wouldn’t have been as brutal


Pretty sure they could beat Sons.


Who knows both teams have very few, if any A players

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are their any teams locally that are any good?

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Give me a break. Mesa, Freedom, Triple H and Brotherly Love are all quality programs at 2023

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are their any teams locally that are any good?


Are "THERE" not "their" good local teams? Mesa, Freedom, BL, and Big4 will have lots of kids who commit to college programs. Now that 2023 is HS level, that is the benchmark of a good program.

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are their any teams locally that are any good?


First, you need to check your grammar. Second, yes, Philly has great national teams.US Club Lacrosse has the following teams ranked in the top 25 nationally for 2020-2026 teams:

2020: HHH #11, Mesa #14, Rising Sons #20

2021: Mesa #25, Rising Sons #26

2022: Freedom #13, HHH #27

2023: BL #14, Freedom #15

2024: HHH #24

2025: HHH #3

2026: Tigers #4

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Who’s on top of this bracket now? Anyone start practicing yet?

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Who’s on top of this bracket now? Anyone start practicing yet?

Well if not teams have played a meaningful game in 2020 then the post from 11/15 should still be the same until later in the summer when actual games are played.

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Who’s on top of this bracket now? Anyone start practicing yet?
Well if not teams have played a meaningful game in 2020 then the post from 11/15 should still be the same until later in the summer when actual games are played.


Based on the summer, looks like for 2023, BL still #1, Freedom #2, Mesa #3, HHH #4, Team 11 #5 then NXT, Rough Riders

anyone disagree? Mesa and HHH could be swapped I guess.

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are their any teams locally that are any good?

First, you need to check your grammar. Second, yes, Philly has great national teams.US Club Lacrosse has the following teams ranked in the top 25 nationally for 2020-2026 teams:

2020: HHH #11, Mesa #14, Rising Sons #20

2021: Mesa #25, Rising Sons #26

2022: Freedom #13, HHH #27

2023: BL #14, Freedom #15

2024: HHH #24

2025: HHH #3

2026: Tigers #4

At 24s and older you are better off driving to NY or Baltimore if your kid is a high level player.

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are their any teams locally that are any good?

First, you need to check your grammar. Second, yes, Philly has great national teams.US Club Lacrosse has the following teams ranked in the top 25 nationally for 2020-2026 teams:

2020: HHH #11, Mesa #14, Rising Sons #20

2021: Mesa #25, Rising Sons #26

2022: Freedom #13, HHH #27

2023: BL #14, Freedom #15

2024: HHH #24

2025: HHH #3

2026: Tigers #4

At 24s and older you are better off driving to NY or Baltimore if your kid is a high level player.

First of all, if you are older than a 2024 it would pay to stay at the great local national teams. Second according to US Club Lacrosse website the rankings are the following (used their latest summer rankings):

2021: Mesa #11, Rising Sons #19

2022: Freedom #14, Mesa #15

2023: BL #12, Freedom #15, Leading Edge 17 (not far)

2024: BL #16

2025: HHH #5, Mad Dog #10 (not far), Tribal #20

2026: Tigers #2

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Who’s on top of this bracket now? Anyone start practicing yet?
Well if not teams have played a meaningful game in 2020 then the post from 11/15 should still be the same until later in the summer when actual games are played.


Based on the summer, looks like for 2023, BL still #1, Freedom #2, Mesa #3, HHH #4, Team 11 #5 then NXT, Rough Riders

anyone disagree? Mesa and HHH could be swapped I guess.

When Mesa is healthy and the full team is playing they whip Freedom and beat BL more often then not like hey did last summer. When banged up with 5 kids out - on of their top poles and all 3 top O they lost by 1 to HHH then played them with them back and won by 12. HHH is closer to NXT/Team 11 Then top 3.

Mesa also beat NXT in the fall by 10 a week after NXT had manhandled BL.

BL is good but lets be honest they trophy hunt like the Sons used too and avoid the big events where they usually don't do as well. Player by player BL has the advantage at FOGO and G, Mesa has the advantage at D and Attack. Its a wash at Middie.

Overall BL & Mesa are tops in Philly at 2023 then Freedom. After that they are all pretty average with HHH probably on top.

Overall I will say 2023 isnt a great year in Philly.

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Also please dont use US Club Rankings they stink and it depends on the schedule/tourneys you play.

There are tons of examples were a team is tanked like 20 but beat 8 of the teams ahead of them etc.

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When Mesa is healthy and the full team is playing they whip Freedom and beat BL
Hahaha--two years ago maybe. Actually more like four or five. Now the "full team" is missing a couple of kids without whom Mesa has become MiniMesa. Mesa hasn't played, much less beat Freedom in three? four years? And when they play BL, they can wave hi to their former best players.

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BL will follow the path of every dad run program that is not a full time business. Once their kids hit the 9th grade level and it becomes about recruiting they will not have the time needed or know how to assist all the kids in the program in this process. They will need to find an out for their players. It is exactly what Sons did with them and NXT. The question will be where do the BL kids end up. BL will no longer exist a few years after their kids age out just as what is happening with Sons.

How did this work out.....

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BL will follow the path of every dad run program that is not a full time business. Once their kids hit the 9th grade level and it becomes about recruiting they will not have the time needed or know how to assist all the kids in the program in this process. They will need to find an out for their players. It is exactly what Sons did with them and NXT. The question will be where do the BL kids end up. BL will no longer exist a few years after their kids age out just as what is happening with Sons.

How did this work out.....

Not sure what the message means (I'm not a 2023 parent). Given the Sons (dad run) / NXT (full time business) reference, I'd say BL turned out the same way, didn't they? They sold to a professional organization (BPG) in Feb 2022 and moved things outta West Chester

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Only the brain trust marketing group at lazyeyes thinks this is effective marketing or they are still relevant.

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Only the brain trust marketing group at lazyeyes thinks this is effective marketing or they are still relevant.

what is lazyeyes? Can't we just post like normal people using normal references? It's anonymous for the love of all that is good!

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BL is called vertical marketing. BPG established a pipeline a viable brand to use their facilities for the next 20 years.

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