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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #294560
10/18/19 10:36 AM
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Saw all these teams looking last few weeks
Recon,Rebels,Outlaws,24, Legacy and maybe True Blue.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #294561
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Has anybody figured out that Haugen is not the A team ..and only 2 kids were A players and still almost beat Legacy ,,,


So who were the other 30 kids on the sideline? So they have 60 kids? So why is Haugen listed as the AA team in TriStar? Take away the FOGO and the score would have been lopsided. The whole second half of the game it was all the AA players. But that's not the point. The point is how 25/30 parents were told their son made the top team, and they are floating, rotating, whatever you want to justify it in your mind, and they are on a B team. And they had to sit and watch as the "AA" players got all the playing time when it was clear that Legacy was going to beat you. Do I think that if all the "AA" players were there that they beat Legacy, probably. But I also know that the 20 kids on Legacy rotate in and get plenty of playing time, develop and get better, win or loose. I don't have to run around and tell everyone my son is on the top Express team, but has to rotate to both teams because he's that good. Face it, he's on the B team and CoachC is running around with your $4K in his pocket.


Here's an idea. The unhappy families who's kids didn't get any playing time, go down and play on the "developmental" team. Make it a strong competitive B team. Get real playing time and instruction. There are a few kids on that team with real talent. See what it can do. Then maybe next year find a home as a team somewhere else.


Here's an idea. CoachC should give all those parents back their money now since he lured them in under false pretenses. They can then go to other organizations who will be happy to fill their open positions with qualified players.



How far apart are the areas that Express and 91 draw their kids from? What other organizations could kids from Express go to? It sounds like Express is a mess. Is Coach C that big of a draw?

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #294563
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Wasn't it the express B team that lost to Legacy's team? 6-5 if I saw correctly? I'd say that's not bad considering the fact that Legacy only has 1 team at the grade. Seems the B team is pretty darn good. No, i'm not an express parent. [/quote]

No. they had 30+ kids on the sideline. Some of their top kids, including their top FOGO, were there. When it was crunch time, the kids from the "AA" team were the only ones on the field, with 20+kids on the sideline and complaining parents on the sideline.
And for the parents who were told their kid is on the AA team, but will be "rotated" back and forth so he can collect another $4K and poach kids from other teams, your kid is on the B team. You got scammed. Coach C wasn't recruiting your kid, he was recruiting $4K.
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I am with the guy from a few days ago that said someone should take advantage of this and start a team and build it with the disgruntled kids and keep them together and coach them. [/quote]

Its a shame to take advantage of kids, who's parents have the ego problem and were conned into going there and leaving their old teams to be on a B team. Good luck with that. Sometimes the grass isn't greener, but the money sure is. [/quote]

It honestly is a con and some of these parents should actually sue Express and CoachC, because it's as clear as can be here that he recruited an abnormal number of kids with promises of being on an A team under him when in actuality half at least are on a B team with a different coach. There needs to be some regulation of how these coaches can take advantage of parents and their kids. Wake up and sue his Meanyquote]

He is coaching the team. I wouldn't really call it a B team. It's a weaker team than their AA team but above a B team. They easily beat the Turtles which I would say is a good B team. Almost beat/tied Legacy which I would say is a weak AA team.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #294567
10/18/19 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wasn't it the express B team that lost to Legacy's team? 6-5 if I saw correctly? I'd say that's not bad considering the fact that Legacy only has 1 team at the grade. Seems the B team is pretty darn good. No, i'm not an express parent.


No. they had 30+ kids on the sideline. Some of their top kids, including their top FOGO, were there. When it was crunch time, the kids from the "AA" team were the only ones on the field, with 20+kids on the sideline and complaining parents on the sideline.
And for the parents who were told their kid is on the AA team, but will be "rotated" back and forth so he can collect another $4K and poach kids from other teams, your kid is on the B team. You got scammed. Coach C wasn't recruiting your kid, he was recruiting $4K.
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I am with the guy from a few days ago that said someone should take advantage of this and start a team and build it with the disgruntled kids and keep them together and coach them. [/quote]

Its a shame to take advantage of kids, who's parents have the ego problem and were conned into going there and leaving their old teams to be on a B team. Good luck with that. Sometimes the grass isn't greener, but the money sure is. [/quote]

It honestly is a con and some of these parents should actually sue Express and CoachC, because it's as clear as can be here that he recruited an abnormal number of kids with promises of being on an A team under him when in actuality half at least are on a B team with a different coach. There needs to be some regulation of how these coaches can take advantage of parents and their kids. Wake up and sue his Meanyquote]

He is coaching the team. I wouldn't really call it a B team. It's a weaker team than their AA team but above a B team. They easily beat the Turtles which I would say is a good B team. Almost beat/tied Legacy which I would say is a weak AA team. [/quote]

Using their AA kids to do so while their 30 other kids sat and watched.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #294572
10/18/19 12:17 PM
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Wasn't it the express B team that lost to Legacy's team? 6-5 if I saw correctly? I'd say that's not bad considering the fact that Legacy only has 1 team at the grade. Seems the B team is pretty darn good. No, i'm not an express parent.


No. they had 30+ kids on the sideline. Some of their top kids, including their top FOGO, were there. When it was crunch time, the kids from the "AA" team were the only ones on the field, with 20+kids on the sideline and complaining parents on the sideline.
And for the parents who were told their kid is on the AA team, but will be "rotated" back and forth so he can collect another $4K and poach kids from other teams, your kid is on the B team. You got scammed. Coach C wasn't recruiting your kid, he was recruiting $4K.


I am with the guy from a few days ago that said someone should take advantage of this and start a team and build it with the disgruntled kids and keep them together and coach them. [/quote]

Its a shame to take advantage of kids, who's parents have the ego problem and were conned into going there and leaving their old teams to be on a B team. Good luck with that. Sometimes the grass isn't greener, but the money sure is. [/quote]

It honestly is a con and some of these parents should actually sue Express and CoachC, because it's as clear as can be here that he recruited an abnormal number of kids with promises of being on an A team under him when in actuality half at least are on a B team with a different coach. There needs to be some regulation of how these coaches can take advantage of parents and their kids. Wake up and sue his Meanyquote]

He is coaching the team. I wouldn't really call it a B team. It's a weaker team than their AA team but above a B team. They easily beat the Turtles which I would say is a good B team. Almost beat/tied Legacy which I would say is a weak AA team. [/quote]

By Using their AA kids to do so while their 30 other kids sat and watched.
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Someone mentioned it was only 2 players. Were the other 8 sitting down? Or were they being competitive with the supposed AA legacy team? I wasan’ t there. Making my assumptions from these other postings. All I’m saying is that the 2nd team doesn’t sound like a B team. It sounds like a weaker A team. Someone mentioned that 1 of the 2 AA kids only played in the last game. So they easily beat the 2 prior teams they played with 1. What were the other 9 players doing? As far as 30 on the sideline, I don’t know but that seems like an exaggeration if they have 40 between the 2 teams.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #294573
10/18/19 12:22 PM
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Wasn't it the express B team that lost to Legacy's team? 6-5 if I saw correctly? I'd say that's not bad considering the fact that Legacy only has 1 team at the grade. Seems the B team is pretty darn good. No, i'm not an express parent.


No. they had 30+ kids on the sideline. Some of their top kids, including their top FOGO, were there. When it was crunch time, the kids from the "AA" team were the only ones on the field, with 20+kids on the sideline and complaining parents on the sideline.
And for the parents who were told their kid is on the AA team, but will be "rotated" back and forth so he can collect another $4K and poach kids from other teams, your kid is on the B team. You got scammed. Coach C wasn't recruiting your kid, he was recruiting $4K.


I am with the guy from a few days ago that said someone should take advantage of this and start a team and build it with the disgruntled kids and keep them together and coach them. [/quote]

Its a shame to take advantage of kids, who's parents have the ego problem and were conned into going there and leaving their old teams to be on a B team. Good luck with that. Sometimes the grass isn't greener, but the money sure is. [/quote]

It honestly is a con and some of these parents should actually sue Express and CoachC, because it's as clear as can be here that he recruited an abnormal number of kids with promises of being on an A team under him when in actuality half at least are on a B team with a different coach. There needs to be some regulation of how these coaches can take advantage of parents and their kids. Wake up and sue his Meanyquote]

He is coaching the team. I wouldn't really call it a B team. It's a weaker team than their AA team but above a B team. They easily beat the Turtles which I would say is a good B team. Almost beat/tied Legacy which I would say is a weak AA team. [/quote]

Using their AA kids to do so while their 30 other kids sat and watched.
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Exactly. If the team can not stand on it's own without an influx of players from another team, than it's a weak team. And it didn't truly win any games then. It just cheated.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #294574
10/18/19 12:41 PM
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No. they had 30+ kids on the sideline. Some of their top kids, including their top FOGO, were there. When it was crunch time, the kids from the "AA" team were the only ones on the field, with 20+kids on the sideline and complaining parents on the sideline.
And for the parents who were told their kid is on the AA team, but will be "rotated" back and forth so he can collect another $4K and poach kids from other teams, your kid is on the B team. You got scammed. Coach C wasn't recruiting your kid, he was recruiting $4K.


I am with the guy from a few days ago that said someone should take advantage of this and start a team and build it with the disgruntled kids and keep them together and coach them.


Its a shame to take advantage of kids, who's parents have the ego problem and were conned into going there and leaving their old teams to be on a B team. Good luck with that. Sometimes the grass isn't greener, but the money sure is. [/quote]

It honestly is a con and some of these parents should actually sue Express and CoachC, because it's as clear as can be here that he recruited an abnormal number of kids with promises of being on an A team under him when in actuality half at least are on a B team with a different coach. There needs to be some regulation of how these coaches can take advantage of parents and their kids. Wake up and sue his Meanyquote]

He is coaching the team. I wouldn't really call it a B team. It's a weaker team than their AA team but above a B team. They easily beat the Turtles which I would say is a good B team. Almost beat/tied Legacy which I would say is a weak AA team. [/quote]

By Using their AA kids to do so while their 30 other kids sat and watched.
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Someone mentioned it was only 2 players. Were the other 8 sitting down? Or were they being competitive with the supposed AA legacy team? I wasan’ t there. Making my assumptions from these other postings. All I’m saying is that the 2nd team doesn’t sound like a B team. It sounds like a weaker A team. Someone mentioned that 1 of the 2 AA kids only played in the last game. So they easily beat the 2 prior teams they played with 1. What were the other 9 players doing? As far as 30 on the sideline, I don’t know but that seems like an exaggeration if they have 40 between the 2 teams.[/quote]

There were more than the 2. I know others who were there who will also be at the Tristar and November tournaments with the A team.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #294575
10/18/19 12:48 PM
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Someone mentioned it was only 2 players. Were the other 8 sitting down? Or were they being competitive with the supposed AA legacy team? I wasan’ t there. Making my assumptions from these other postings. All I’m saying is that the 2nd team doesn’t sound like a B team. It sounds like a weaker A team. Someone mentioned that 1 of the 2 AA kids only played in the last game. So they easily beat the 2 prior teams they played with 1. What were the other 9 players doing? As far as 30 on the sideline, I don’t know but that seems like an exaggeration if they have 40 between the 2 teams.

They had 34 kids there for the last game vs Legacy.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #294576
10/18/19 01:02 PM
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Does it really matter what Express does with these 40 kids? They all train together and the teams are fluid. CoachC can pick who he wants to play where he wants so get over it. They had 100+ kids tryout and field three teams at this age so clearly not hurting for players. If you are in that group and feel misled...stop paying and find a new team. If you are in the group and are unhappy but staying...stop airing your dirty laundry. Kids improve by practicing with these coaches and the top level kids at a high pace. Most of the 40 on the team most likely are a top players in town ball and should get plenty of field time there, if not you're on the wrong team and they are just taking your money.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #294578
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Has anybody figured out that Haugen is not the A team ..and only 2 kids were A players and still almost beat Legacy ,,,


How many A players do you think is fair? B means B. And two A players were top guys. His face off kid hardly ever loses.

Keep telling yourself it is ok, and that this practice is fair.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #294579
10/18/19 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does it really matter what Express does with these 40 kids? They all train together and the teams are fluid. CoachC can pick who he wants to play where he wants so get over it. They had 100+ kids tryout and field three teams at this age so clearly not hurting for players. If you are in that group and feel misled...stop paying and find a new team. If you are in the group and are unhappy but staying...stop airing your dirty laundry. Kids improve by practicing with these coaches and the top level kids at a high pace. Most of the 40 on the team most likely are a top players in town ball and should get plenty of field time there, if not you're on the wrong team and they are just taking your money.


Town teams don't take your money. They aren't even $200 for the season. That basically pays the refs and any maintenance costs.
Yes kids learn from these club coaches, but isn't it best to be put to the test in an actual game environment? From what I'm hearing, they aren't even getting that opportunity. The fees you pay to these clubs in part pay for entrance to tournaments and exposure.
You're not getting that sitting on the sideline. You're just getting an expensive uniform and helmet with some extra reps at practice.

Again, if they're supposed to be rotating players, which is what these parents were told, then fine. But they aren't even doing that. I think people are just speaking to the obvious fraud in this situation. They were sold and bought the snake oil.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #294580
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People care when he puts A players into a B bracket.

His AA FOGO plays on 3 teams. Without him, every Express team is in a lower league. Even the prodigal 2025 team. Someone figures out how to poach that kid, and Express is in trouble.

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People care when he puts A players into a B bracket.

His AA FOGO plays on 3 teams. Without him, every Express team is in a lower league. Even the prodigal 2025 team. Someone figures out how to poach that kid, and Express is in trouble.


Comical statement to say that without 1 kid that 3 teams would be in trouble. You’re clueless

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Does it really matter what Express does with these 40 kids? They all train together and the teams are fluid. CoachC can pick who he wants to play where he wants so get over it. They had 100+ kids tryout and field three teams at this age so clearly not hurting for players. If you are in that group and feel misled...stop paying and find a new team. If you are in the group and are unhappy but staying...stop airing your dirty laundry. Kids improve by practicing with these coaches and the top level kids at a high pace. Most of the 40 on the team most likely are a top players in town ball and should get plenty of field time there, if not you're on the wrong team and they are just taking your money.


Lets break it down for the simple minded:

1. Yes it matters what he does when he is registering teams in both A and B brackets. Other teams register them in brackets based on the teams level of play. And expect to have a fair shot in that bracket. Registering a team you created with your lower level players in the B bracket but plugging in a bunch of A players from your higher level team is cheating. Plain and simple.
2. Why doesnt he play both in the A bracket? That's what he promised these parents, that they were getting an A team. Why? Because he knows he placed kids on the team that were not A players. Lying just to make a buck. Or $4500.
3. I know kids from B teams , and not even high level B teams, who are not even close to A players who got offers for CoachC A team. Some stayed with their original team, because they could tell something didnt smell right. Every kid at that tryout got an offer. For this team that was to be split. Or the lower level team. But not everyone accepts. Some people are not fooled. Or some just tried out to see if they made it.
4. Sure people improve by practicing with high level kids. But kids want to play too. You practice to play. Not to sit around and watch others play.
5. People have a right to voice their complaints wherever they want. So the only person who should be shutting their mouth is you.
6. And if CoachC isn't giving what he promised these people have a right to their money back. Not just being told to stop paying and leave.

Can you comprehend that buttheadhole.

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Re: Boys 2026-6th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #294586
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Has anybody figured out that Haugen is not the A team ..and only 2 kids were A players and still almost beat Legacy ,,,


How many A players do you think is fair? B means B. And two A players were top guys. His face off kid hardly ever loses.

Keep telling yourself it is ok, and that this practice is fair.


Express parent here.... Let me squash the debate... Last weeks tournament did not include the top 3 attackmen, top 3 middies, or top 3 poles. Many of them were in casual clothes on the sideline. Those 9 mentioned above are only playing AA tournaments. Yes the fogo played as he plays at every opportunity. There was a true 2026 who is on the 2025 team who was brought in for the last game. Every other kid on the field was either listed as a B player, or part of the 12 (7 poles / 5 middies) kids who are playing all tournaments in the fall as CoachC figures out how to create the divide for spring amongst them.

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