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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


I'm an EVP at a BD in NYC. We have had great results hiring from the top SUNY schools Binghamton, Geneseo and Stony Brook. The education is one thing, its what you do and are willing to sacrifice once you get in the door. Too many kids think because Daddy is rich and he attended an expensive school, he's on the golden path to success. We want kids who are hungry and smart--athletes from top SUNY schools usually fit the bill. We don't need the baggage of the entitled so please don't discount a SUNY education.

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In terms of earnings potential after college:
Georgia Tech (MCLA)
Princeton
MIT
Yale
UPenn
Dartmouth
Babson
Duke
Cornell
Harvard
Amherst
Williams
Wesleyan
Tufts


Darn close

Me, sorry, going through this, now and the past 4 years,and i think Nescac's are overrated, not to mention way to much $$! My sons laughed at me, understood the academics but also the vibe/culture. Then slapped back that the resources are not even close than some schools like UVA and Michigan. (these big state schools offer way more than the limited scope of the nescac schools)

Would not:
put any Nescac over Michigan or UVA
Babson over Brown (wouldn't even put Babson over many Club schools)
You put Ga tech on the list, with that you need to put Clemson, South Carolina, Texas, Vandy.

You mention SUNY, if the school has what your son wants go for it, at least take a visit. But be warned, the better D2/3 and even club teams these days expect a serious commitment - and these are without some of the benefits the D1s have.

VISIT AS MANY SCHOOLS AS YOU CAN. Dont let anyone tell you otherwise


I think the list was earnings potential after college. Babson is the highest starting salary after college for a business degree. Brown, UVA, and Michigan are great. GT is the MIT of the south, and if you're an engineer then you're set for life.


We talking starting salery or Mid Career. because as great as it is to start out high, I would think we are talking sustainable mid career stats

Ill continue to disagree on a few points especially Babson being above Michigan UVA (even in Business) Lehigh, RPI, Stevens Tech, and the likes of Suny maritime. Babson is yes, shutter the thought ranked over nescacs. (And this could be the difference of stem and business) but Babson is not a top 10 school like I beleive you are touting it. But does it matter when it is splitting hairs. but using my argument earlier. Having the chance and option to go to Babson or a bigger school TAKE THE BIGGER SCHOOL!!!!

You can always make a big school small. You can never make a small school big. As well, (sans tufts) the big schools have just as many graduates at the caliber of the the entire enrollment at some of those the nescacs. and yeah, these big schools also have as many graduates that would barley skirt by at the nescacs - but thats kinda like life. Like the academies, Nescacs take a special kid of kid. Better make sure thats a good fit for your kid. and if you are in the same tax bracket, you are paying close to full boat

and since we are talking about high achieving students, the 12.6 gets fuzzy. Take as much $$ as you can in academic dollars, if you have the stats $$ shouldn't could against the teams budget!

Now back to babson - it is a good school but not good enough to be getting this much ink here. If you are considering Babson, just check out all the schools in the area ( just like the earning list that included Babson here are some of them Bentley Boston College Holy Cross WPI why not stop at Bryant ).

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....


Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.

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NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....


Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.


I get what they are saying "figure it out" not for lax reason of academics, but because for every SUNY applicant one takes, someone else is taking 4 for candidates from the other schools. Law of averages. and for that NYC guy, out of NYC or NYS how much juice does any SUNY carry. You need to figure out if the juice is worth the squeeze.

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NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.



exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

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NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.



exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit

I don't think you are right when you say "if they were that good at lax, sorry they aren't going to NESCAC" and I think you are flat our wrong that a kid that has the ability to play at UVA, Yale, etc. is opting out of playing lacrosse. Sure there is the exception and I am sure you know that one kid but most kids playing high level lacrosse from an early age through HS don't want it to end. This is why some very good D1 level players opt for NESCAC or NEWMAC (MIT) instead of Ivy or ACC type schools. They still want to play but don't want the 6am workouts 5 days a week in the fall and all the intensity that goes along with that.

Like it was said earlier in this thread, at a young age every kid wants to play for Duke, Maryland, UVA, etc. but as they grow up and mature some of these kids recognize its not just about lacrosse and they want to do other things but keep playing competitive lacrosse so they opt for D3, club or that rare kid that hangs up the helmet.

This thread was not about berating SUNY schools or determining a kid was not good enough for Yale so he went to Babson. It was meant to evaluate what schools have the best combined experience of academics / lacrosse. By the way, nobody is saying that if you get a degree from SUNY you will not be as successful as someone from Harvard. It just takes significantly more effort. Personally, I don't care where you went to school. If you played lacrosse I may not hire you but I will definitely give you an opportunity in my company.

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....


Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.


Definitely not silly. Is there anything more important than your child's education? Other than their health, no, IMO. Where there is a will there is a way to pay for college. Should a child run up $100k in loans, of course not.

Personally, I think they should have some skin in the game. $10k loan per year may keep them honest and focused on their school work. After college they can live at home for a year and pay $40k off. Student should also have job at home and in college (athletes most likely have zero time for job at college) .

Rich people on LI can pay for D1, poor people can get a ton of financial aid for a hard working smart student. Middle class/upper middle on LI have it tough. Even there, lifestyle changes can help a lot.

Seems to me, most parents lease 2 cars, big vacations and eat out 3 times a week. Always trying to keep up with the Jones'. Is it that hard to scale back? What about a second job? That's how my father got us through college.

Everyone is in different situations but to say that sacrificing for a respected D1 college for your child is "silly", is plain ignorant.

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....


Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.


Definitely not silly. Is there anything more important than your child's education? Other than their health, no, IMO. Where there is a will there is a way to pay for college. Should a child run up $100k in loans, of course not.

Personally, I think they should have some skin in the game. $10k loan per year may keep them honest and focused on their school work. After college they can live at home for a year and pay $40k off. Student should also have job at home and in college (athletes most likely have zero time for job at college) .

Rich people on LI can pay for D1, poor people can get a ton of financial aid for a hard working smart student. Middle class/upper middle on LI have it tough. Even there, lifestyle changes can help a lot.

Seems to me, most parents lease 2 cars, big vacations and eat out 3 times a week. Always trying to keep up with the Jones'. Is it that hard to scale back? What about a second job? That's how my father got us through college.

Everyone is in different situations but to say that sacrificing for a respected D1 college for your child is "silly", is plain ignorant.


Wall Street guy again. Harvard or SUNY New Paltz...makes no difference to us when hiring. What I see is the alumni bringing in "their guys" and the competition that breeds within the firm. Fairfield guys want to hire Fairfield grads and they compete against Binghamton guys--it creates a great atmosphere. How hard are you willing to work? Don't burden your kids or your family with student debt and if they are that driven to get a top tier education, someone will figure out a way to get it paid for. But the majority should look for a balanced college experience and for me that's D3.

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D2 provides competitive lax also with mostly smaller schools that some kids might be looking for. And there's athletic scholarship $ to be had as well as academic

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....

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please don't get SUNY schools confused with these other schools. I speak firsthand as i trek into the city every AM regretting my decision to go to a SUNY. The SUNYs are great if you want to be an accountant, or go to a grad school... the other prestigious schools are the best path to banking, technology, trading, engineering or entrepreneurship. Plus from a location standpoint... each city is worse than the previous. Albany, Geneseo, Buffalo, Binghamton, Stony Brook.... geez, how depressing


Well said. SUNY is fine but if lax can get you son into a great school that is well recognized, figure out a way to pay for it. There is more than one option to pay for college. Lax is a great sport but why pick your college on your chances of playing in a National Championship? That is a terrible idea. For every D1 starter, there is no less than 10 broken hearts by injury, riding the bench, too much work, mental attitude, etc. College sports is brutal, every recruited player was a star back home.....


Figure out a way? Sure, great, I’ll just figure out a way. Maybe bankrupt my family. Perhaps remortgage the house. Maybe the other two can skip college and do something else so the lacrosse guy can go D1. How silly.


Definitely not silly. Is there anything more important than your child's education? Other than their health, no, IMO. Where there is a will there is a way to pay for college. Should a child run up $100k in loans, of course not.

Personally, I think they should have some skin in the game. $10k loan per year may keep them honest and focused on their school work. After college they can live at home for a year and pay $40k off. Student should also have job at home and in college (athletes most likely have zero time for job at college) .

Rich people on LI can pay for D1, poor people can get a ton of financial aid for a hard working smart student. Middle class/upper middle on LI have it tough. Even there, lifestyle changes can help a lot.

Seems to me, most parents lease 2 cars, big vacations and eat out 3 times a week. Always trying to keep up with the Jones'. Is it that hard to scale back? What about a second job? That's how my father got us through college.

Everyone is in different situations but to say that sacrificing for a respected D1 college for your child is "silly", is plain ignorant.


What is silly is to simplify something into "find a way". For most normal middle-class families that doesn't exist without major sacrifices. if you have more than one child "just finding a way" may not be an option. What lifestyle change are you referring to? Skipping the weekly dinner out? Not buying the needed family car? Maybe the other kids should skip field hockey camp and lacrosse camp? Don't use phrases like finding a way without offering a specific, it's lame and silly.

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NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.



exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit


Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.

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NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.



exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit


Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.


Please stop. For the most part the only people who hold NESCAC's in higher regard than Ivy's are the parents of kids who attend NESCAC schools. There is not "lots of top-end lacrosse played there". NESCAC's are good schools with good lacrosse but please stop they are not for everyone and they are not necessarily better than the Ivy's, Duke, Notre Dame etc.. in fact many would consider several large state universities better all around.

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NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.



exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit


Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.


Please stop. For the most part the only people who hold NESCAC's in higher regard than Ivy's are the parents of kids who attend NESCAC schools. There is not "lots of top-end lacrosse played there". NESCAC's are good schools with good lacrosse but please stop they are not for everyone and they are not necessarily better than the Ivy's, Duke, Notre Dame etc.. in fact many would consider several large state universities better all around.


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NESCAC schools are great, but you better have top academics.....particularly for Amherst and Williams. Student athletes trying to go to these schools need better grades and test scores than similar lax players trying to go to Harvard or Yale. Coaches have less pull with Admissions at NESCACs.



exactly, and if they are that good at lax, sorry but they arent going Nescac. my point exactly.

I thought i posted last night about the boys going to yale harvard cornell and brown. they had some impressive grades, not 100% sure their standard test were stellar. No way they were trading Ivy for Nescac and if not Ivy it was Duke ND UVA or MichiganI also know there are some boys with stellar grades that opted out of the sport. Some at the SUNYs that have lacrosse. And in a few cases better than any '19 recruit


Don't denigrate NESCAC as there is lots of top-end lacrosse played there. As an example, Jordan Wolff (Amherst) was under consideration for the Tewaarton last year The point is not that the lacrosse is weak there. The point is that these kids are at the very top academically......above the Ivys. So the mistake is thinking you are going for Yale and, if that doesn't work out, you can always go to Williams. As above, your scores may be good enough for Yale but not Williams. For certain kids, NESCAC is gold: top academics, school/athletic balance, etc, But, again, don't fool yourself into thinking that these are some types of safety schools. Many a kid has been left at the altar by top NESCACs when the coach couldn't get them through admissions.


Please stop. For the most part the only people who hold NESCAC's in higher regard than Ivy's are the parents of kids who attend NESCAC schools. There is not "lots of top-end lacrosse played there". NESCAC's are good schools with good lacrosse but please stop they are not for everyone and they are not necessarily better than the Ivy's, Duke, Notre Dame etc.. in fact many would consider several large state universities better all around.


Try reading again. My primary point was that good lacrosse gets played at NESCACS, but they are not for everyone. My second point was not that they are better than Ivys but harder academically for recruited athletes to get past admissions. Nobody said NESCACS are overall better schools than Ivys. That is all....

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