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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #292527
09/16/19 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Was that the 91 team who quit on a tournament because they got beat or the 91 team who doesn't compete in the big tournaments because they can't? You keep hanging your hat on the old holdback cheater routine. You are all alone up there on the island as far as the rules go nationally.


Crabs parent here. Let’s keep it real, as if that’s even remotely possible on this site. We were scheduled against Wolfpack in the NLF when 91 left. The tournament directors gave both teams the option of playing or not playing the game due to the heat. Same option they gave all teams in the lost bracket. Crabs coaches decided they wanted to play. Obviously 91 chose not to. Can’t say I blame them. Play a game in 95 degree heat that means nothing? For us, it would have been nice to get a shot at 91. For them, not much of a point to play the last game of the year with no shot at the T-shirt.

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #292528
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Was that the 91 team who quit on a tournament because they got beat or the 91 team who doesn't compete in the big tournaments because they can't? You keep hanging your hat on the old holdback cheater routine. You are all alone up there on the island as far as the rules go nationally.


Crabs parent here. Let’s keep it real, as if that’s even remotely possible on this site. We were scheduled against Wolfpack in the NLF when 91 left. The tournament directors gave both teams the option of playing or not playing the game due to the heat. Same option they gave all teams in the lost bracket. Crabs coaches decided they wanted to play. Obviously 91 chose not to. Can’t say I blame them. Play a game in 95 degree heat that means nothing? For us, it would have been nice to get a shot at 91. For them, not much of a point to play the last game of the year with no shot at the T-shirt.




And that's fine except 91 kid/parent continues to scream at you Crabs parent about how bad your team is and what a cheater you are. You are being insulted and defending a team who quit because they didn't have a chance at the title and they tell everyone else how great they are and how bad you are. Come on.

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #292530
09/16/19 02:22 PM
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BTW - how many other teams quit?

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #292532
09/16/19 02:31 PM
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100% incorrect. Team 91 Wolfpack has never had a holdback. Not in 2nd grade, not last year and still not this year coming up. Never. Yet they seem to be holding their own, I’d say. And 91 isn’t the only top team without holdbacks. Explain that, you holdback cheat.



Unless you are the coach, you have no idea how many kids on the team are holdbacks. A ton of parents do late kindergarten - it's not just about kids repeating 8th grade at the "request" of a private school.

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #292533
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Never mind. I just checked tourney machine. They were the only team quitting, they quit on Saturday and not Sunday and they weren't anywhere near the top team. It makes their appearance on a MD forum that much more irritating.

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #292538
09/16/19 05:00 PM
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Didn't realize that Team 91 player on Crush who is the #1 recruit in the junior class is a November B Day Re-Class....perhaps reclassifying a bit more prevalent on the Island than some might lead us to believe....

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Didn't realize that Team 91 player on Crush who is the #1 recruit in the junior class is a November B Day Re-Class....perhaps reclassifying a bit more prevalent on the Island than some might lead us to believe....


November reclass in LI would be on age in Maryland. Holding back players born in Sept, Oct, Nov, would be reclass in LI with a Dec 1 school start age. In MD it is the right age to start and be in school.

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #292541
09/16/19 09:28 PM
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The IL article didn't say he was held back...to be clear it said he was RE-classed and gets alot of grief for it which he has learned to deal with....I am not here to say it is wrong that is 100% up to each family, just pointing out the facts.

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #292560
09/17/19 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Was that the 91 team who quit on a tournament because they got beat or the 91 team who doesn't compete in the big tournaments because they can't? You keep hanging your hat on the old holdback cheater routine. You are all alone up there on the island as far as the rules go nationally.


Crabs parent here. Let’s keep it real, as if that’s even remotely possible on this site. We were scheduled against Wolfpack in the NLF when 91 left. The tournament directors gave both teams the option of playing or not playing the game due to the heat. Same option they gave all teams in the lost bracket. Crabs coaches decided they wanted to play. Obviously 91 chose not to. Can’t say I blame them. Play a game in 95 degree heat that means nothing? For us, it would have been nice to get a shot at 91. For them, not much of a point to play the last game of the year with no shot at the T-shirt.




You are not a Crabs parent.....

I call BS.... You are a liar of the first order, you are probably a coach or a naive parent of the pups..... What ... do you think that no one else was at Amherst?

The Wolfpups ran home crying on Saturday, they were scheduled to play the Crabs on Sunday at 8 AM when it was what 80 degrees? It was a slightly overcast cooler morning, all other teams were out there playing except for the the pups... Are you saying that the directors went to 2 teams in a summer tournament to say you don't have to play because it is 80 degrees...., There is no excuses other than you lost and your team did not have the mental capacity to finish what they started. that lesson will carry on through life, hopefully they boys will switch to a program that teaches them that life is not WYSL, because that's over. The pups will not be winning may tournaments anymore, but they will have the memories and stories. "Remember when we were 12 and thought we were good....."

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #292562
09/17/19 11:16 AM
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Didn't realize that Team 91 player on Crush who is the #1 recruit in the junior class is a November B Day Re-Class....perhaps reclassifying a bit more prevalent on the Island than some might lead us to believe....


November reclass in LI would be on age in Maryland. Holding back players born in Sept, Oct, Nov, would be reclass in LI with a Dec 1 school start age. In MD it is the right age to start and be in school.



Correct. In MD the boy is “on age”.

Interesting to note that, for the last three years in a row, the #1 recruit in the country is from Team 91 Long Island.

2020 grad year going to Duke and NOT a holdback.

2021 reclass but NOT a holdback by MD standards.

2022 player plays up 2 years! How about that! The only All American freshman in history. What you think of that all you MD cheater holdback parents? That’s how WE roll on the island.

All three players are on Team 91 Crush and all gained national recognition 4 years ago when they played on the national stage and won the World Series of Youth Lacrosse. Sound familiar? History repeats itself.

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #292564
09/17/19 11:20 AM
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Here with the "stunad" word again...sheesh. Dude - Tony Soprano called. He wants his vocabulary back.

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #292566
09/17/19 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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100% incorrect. Team 91 Wolfpack has never had a holdback. Not in 2nd grade, not last year and still not this year coming up. Never. Yet they seem to be holding their own, I’d say. And 91 isn’t the only top team without holdbacks. Explain that, you holdback cheat.



Unless you are the coach, you have no idea how many kids on the team are holdbacks. A ton of parents do late kindergarten - it's not just about kids repeating 8th grade at the "request" of a private school.


Bro you been living under a rock? Everyone knows that WP went to the WSYL with 100% of its team and no guest players. That’s your proof.

And if you have a close team, parents friend each other on social media. So when it’s a kids birthday, it is very well documented. So, yes, we know. Still zero holdbacks! Hard to believe, I’m sure, coming from a holdback parent of a team with 80% holdbacks. Yup. Beat you guys up badly with kids a year+ younger than your team. Yeah. Must be a tough pill to swallow.

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09/17/19 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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100% incorrect. Team 91 Wolfpack has never had a holdback. Not in 2nd grade, not last year and still not this year coming up. Never. Yet they seem to be holding their own, I’d say. And 91 isn’t the only top team without holdbacks. Explain that, you holdback cheat.



Unless you are the coach, you have no idea how many kids on the team are holdbacks. A ton of parents do late kindergarten - it's not just about kids repeating 8th grade at the "request" of a private school.


Bro you been living under a rock? Everyone knows that WP went to the WSYL with 100% of its team and no guest players. That’s your proof.

And if you have a close team, parents friend each other on social media. So when it’s a kids birthday, it is very well documented. So, yes, we know. Still zero holdbacks! Hard to believe, I’m sure, coming from a holdback parent of a team with 80% holdbacks. Yup. Beat you guys up badly with kids a year+ younger than your team. Yeah. Must be a tough pill to swallow.






WP does not even have close to the talent that crush had. Stop comparing yourselves to that. There are 2 Players on the team that you got last year , for the WSYL. Without them you guys are in the back of the pack. FACTS... for the WSYL. you recruited 6 new players just for the the tourney.. So not the same team. LIES LIES AND MORE LIES. PACK UP AND GO HOME.

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09/17/19 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Was that the 91 team who quit on a tournament because they got beat or the 91 team who doesn't compete in the big tournaments because they can't? You keep hanging your hat on the old holdback cheater routine. You are all alone up there on the island as far as the rules go nationally.


Crabs parent here. Let’s keep it real, as if that’s even remotely possible on this site. We were scheduled against Wolfpack in the NLF when 91 left. The tournament directors gave both teams the option of playing or not playing the game due to the heat. Same option they gave all teams in the lost bracket. Crabs coaches decided they wanted to play. Obviously 91 chose not to. Can’t say I blame them. Play a game in 95 degree heat that means nothing? For us, it would have been nice to get a shot at 91. For them, not much of a point to play the last game of the year with no shot at the T-shirt.




And that's fine except 91 kid/parent continues to scream at you Crabs parent about how bad your team is and what a cheater you are. You are being insulted and defending a team who quit because they didn't have a chance at the title and they tell everyone else how great they are and how bad you are. Come on.


Not affiliated with either team, but there have been plenty of teams at all grad levels that have bailed on lost bracket games in 95° heat. Sure you can call them quitters. But in a game that means nothing but a chest pound, at the rising 8th grade level, I’d rather not risk injury. lost brackets are the densest thing ever anyway.

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Re: Boys 2024 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #292573
09/17/19 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Was that the 91 team who quit on a tournament because they got beat or the 91 team who doesn't compete in the big tournaments because they can't? You keep hanging your hat on the old holdback cheater routine. You are all alone up there on the island as far as the rules go nationally.


Crabs parent here. Let’s keep it real, as if that’s even remotely possible on this site. We were scheduled against Wolfpack in the NLF when 91 left. The tournament directors gave both teams the option of playing or not playing the game due to the heat. Same option they gave all teams in the lost bracket. Crabs coaches decided they wanted to play. Obviously 91 chose not to. Can’t say I blame them. Play a game in 95 degree heat that means nothing? For us, it would have been nice to get a shot at 91. For them, not much of a point to play the last game of the year with no shot at the T-shirt.




And that's fine except 91 kid/parent continues to scream at you Crabs parent about how bad your team is and what a cheater you are. You are being insulted and defending a team who quit because they didn't have a chance at the title and they tell everyone else how great they are and how bad you are. Come on.


Not defending anything. Just explaining what happened at the tournament. Teams in lost bracket had the choice of playing or not.

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