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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291513
08/18/19 07:40 PM
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The big question is......how are all those YJ folks dealing with the fact that TG is #1? Great Coaching + Great Players +Great Results!!! See you in the rear view!

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291518
08/18/19 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The reason girls switched teams is arbitrary. More playing time, crappy coaching, better recruitment ops, conflicts, etc... it doesn’t really matter except to the individual families. Point is all this movement creates opportunity. Fresh starts, fresh attitude to start HS years with. No more “baby ball”, Organizations where pandered to player/coach combos make decisions for everyone will be exposed and teams will suffer. Can’t hide marginal daughter player and force feed minutes that are unwarranted. Personal, can’t wait. Some teams will be stronger, others weaker. all will be motivated to show “ baby ball” is behind them and that they belong regardless of where they are. Again, can’t wait. There will be surprises.


Not really arbitrary. When your best girls are leaving because the coaches are favoring their sub par daughters, this is a big problem. Welcome to YJ2023

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291522
08/18/19 09:05 PM
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[quote=Anonymous]It will be a very interesting YJ tryout coming up as the long anticipated merge happens. The other travel clubs TG, Legacy, Elevate, Liberty will be watching anxiously hoping disgruntled players that didn't make the A team come to them looking for a new team. The other clubs didn't draw difference making players to their clubs.


Because we don't need to. Our coaches coach and our girls have gotten better every year. Keep drinking that YJ Coolaide.

Thorn won a state championship with ESM. What have the great coaches from TG and Legacy ever accomplished. If you call putting talented girls on the field and staying out of the way coaching, you are right those clubs have excellent coaches.



Really? Thorn didn't win it. She had one go to girl. that was who won it. def not thorn. that is a joke

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291523
08/18/19 09:30 PM
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parents should not be allowed to coach period. mYBE the shakeup at YJ is good and maybe there will be kids that should have played and will finally get a chance. lots of great players that were sat on for a long time. BUT will see how itall shakes out another parent coach is not good not good for the kid either.. it just creates a bad enviroment looks like favoritism even if its not... it will..

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291547
08/19/19 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The big question is......how are all those YJ folks dealing with the fact that TG is #1? Great Coaching + Great Players +Great Results!!! See you in the rear view!


Great players, agreed. Great coach, disagree. AS needs to teach the girls team lacrosse.

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The big question is......how are all those YJ folks dealing with the fact that TG is #1? Great Coaching + Great Players +Great Results!!! See you in the rear view!


I've seen it before.. just when you get the team right where you want it... the wins and loses don't mean anything anymore.. all the tournaments become showcases, college coaches wanna see the girls play and dont care about the score... it become an individual event

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291577
08/19/19 05:15 PM
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[quote=Anonymous]The big question is......how are all those YJ folks dealing with the fact that TG is #1? Great Coaching + Great Players +Great Results!!! See you in the rear view!


Great players, agreed. Great coach, disagree. AS needs to teach the girls team lacrosse.

Great coach? The guy looked like he was sleeping on the sideline at the Mid Atlantic. Anybody can win with the talent on TG. You want a good coach go to Legacy.

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291637
08/21/19 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The reason girls switched teams is arbitrary. More playing time, crappy coaching, better recruitment ops, conflicts, etc... it doesn’t really matter except to the individual families. Point is all this movement creates opportunity. Fresh starts, fresh attitude to start HS years with. No more “baby ball”, Organizations where pandered to player/coach combos make decisions for everyone will be exposed and teams will suffer. Can’t hide marginal daughter player and force feed minutes that are unwarranted. Personal, can’t wait. Some teams will be stronger, others weaker. all will be motivated to show “ baby ball” is behind them and that they belong regardless of where they are. Again, can’t wait. There will be surprises.


Not really arbitrary. When your best girls are leaving because the coaches are favoring their sub par daughters, this is a big problem. Welcome to YJ2023


this is how its been since 3rd grade. it will now only get worse as another dad is coaching.. this is not going away any time soon, but at this point its a lost cause. they will never be the top team...TG will be top then Legacy

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291678
08/21/19 08:29 PM
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So how much rhetoric is going to go one through the fall and winter?...Will fall tourneys be useful in gauging what kinda teams still exist? Probably not and who cares anyway. It doesn't matter much in the big picture, to address the earlier comment about whether we as adults should even care about this stuff, well by the way the answer is no...I agree with the earlier poster there is no reason to put stock in wins and loses anymore, pride in who is best doesn't amount to a hill of beans going forward...being in the top tourneys with high level coaches watching is the goal now for most and there is plenty of room at the table for that. If your kid plays for one of the better teams, be thankful, they will play in front of lots of coaches. If not on a top team, don't frete, they will find you if your talented. Concentrate on your girls skill sets getting better, not the number of goals they score or assists...it is early for this age group but not unreasonable to think about recruitment starting next summer. So lets agree to disagree on who is better than who...hope for good games with high level play on both sides of the ball, onesided victories are boring and don't give your kid a chance to show much...these teams need each other and they need each other to be competitive...enjoy the fall all.

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291680
08/22/19 07:13 AM
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So how much rhetoric is going to go one through the fall and winter?...Will fall tourneys be useful in gauging what kinda teams still exist? Probably not and who cares anyway. It doesn't matter much in the big picture, to address the earlier comment about whether we as adults should even care about this stuff, well by the way the answer is no...I agree with the earlier poster there is no reason to put stock in wins and loses anymore, pride in who is best doesn't amount to a hill of beans going forward...being in the top tourneys with high level coaches watching is the goal now for most and there is plenty of room at the table for that. If your kid plays for one of the better teams, be thankful, they will play in front of lots of coaches. If not on a top team, don't frete, they will find you if your talented. Concentrate on your girls skill sets getting better, not the number of goals they score or assists...it is early for this age group but not unreasonable to think about recruitment starting next summer. So lets agree to disagree on who is better than who...hope for good games with high level play on both sides of the ball, onesided victories are boring and don't give your kid a chance to show much...these teams need each other and they need each other to be competitive...enjoy the fall all.


Well said, one important take away from your message is that you need to be on the field playing to be seen by coaches. If your daughter is riding the bench while coaches daughter/favorites (we all know them...the ones who drop passes, take bad shots, turn the ball over) are playing the whole game, it’s time to find a new team!

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08/22/19 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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So how much rhetoric is going to go one through the fall and winter?...Will fall tourneys be useful in gauging what kinda teams still exist? Probably not and who cares anyway. It doesn't matter much in the big picture, to address the earlier comment about whether we as adults should even care about this stuff, well by the way the answer is no...I agree with the earlier poster there is no reason to put stock in wins and loses anymore, pride in who is best doesn't amount to a hill of beans going forward...being in the top tourneys with high level coaches watching is the goal now for most and there is plenty of room at the table for that. If your kid plays for one of the better teams, be thankful, they will play in front of lots of coaches. If not on a top team, don't frete, they will find you if your talented. Concentrate on your girls skill sets getting better, not the number of goals they score or assists...it is early for this age group but not unreasonable to think about recruitment starting next summer. So lets agree to disagree on who is better than who...hope for good games with high level play on both sides of the ball, onesided victories are boring and don't give your kid a chance to show much...these teams need each other and they need each other to be competitive...enjoy the fall all.


Well said, one important take away from your message is that you need to be on the field playing to be seen by coaches. If your daughter is riding the bench while coaches daughter/favorites (we all know them...the ones who drop passes, take bad shots, turn the ball over) are playing the whole game, it’s time to find a new team!



good advice! It is hard to navigate and is frustrating watching the politics of it all. I think that is what makes people crazy. Watching sup par coaches players get time, while amazing players ride the bench. Get on a team where your kid plays.

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291761
08/23/19 07:06 PM
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And neither of the 2 exceptional YJ players were on the winning team at Nationals.. Kind of ironic. And there are not 5 exceptional on TG. That's a reach.. Legacy has the same amount if exceptional players.

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08/24/19 01:35 AM
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And neither of the 2 exceptional YJ players were on the winning team at Nationals.. Kind of ironic. And there are not 5 exceptional on TG. That's a reach.. Legacy has the same amount if exceptional players.


YJ didn’t play any good teams at “Nationals”. I guess you missed the memo that it is a low level tournament.

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08/24/19 06:13 AM
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[quote=Anonymous]And neither of the 2 exceptional YJ players were on the winning team at Nationals.. Kind of ironic. And there are not 5 exceptional on TG. That's a reach.. Legacy has the same amount if exceptional players.

Watching all 3 teams play this past summer in my opinion YJ and TG definitely have more talent than Legacy. Legacy has the best coaching of the 3.

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Re: Girls 2023-9th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291911
08/27/19 10:42 PM
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Because your precious daughter wasn't there, it wasn't a good tournament.. You think we should swallow info from low level long island trash. like yourself... Many of the other long island teams have been to that tournament over the last three years or even 4 years and I only remember Igloo and Yj Thorn winning in this age group.. Was the tournament good when Top Gun came in 3rd.. Shove your BS biased memo garbage .. Get your YJ bashing in now. Once that team gets a final roster, it looks like you will be in the rearview mirror again. All the other teams made no changes...status quo. .. Keep in mind that Yj will have 4 under amour all Americans on the midfield to start. and another that would have made it if she tried out. . So pass this memo around Jack butt.. So congratulation, you were a part of the best middle school team on long island... Now step aside and let the adults thru.. so they can get to work.....GET COMFORTABLE !

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