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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291093
08/13/19 10:07 AM
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were any of S2S's teams not a joke?

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291138
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Did you consider the ad hoc ratings are actually helpful to some trying to figure out where to place their kids and what level is the best fit? Not everyone wears rose colored glasses-some of us are actually aware where are kids stack up and want to place them with kids of equal or slightly better skill that play against similar competition. Some kids simply enjoy the game and they nor their parents are using the club circuit for a scholarship, but simple to get better and to enhance their future high-school experience.


Okay, just club, no town. No rankings, but those are the tiers that most will agree with. Pick a tier and do your research, but if a team is still looking at this point... I would ask a lot of questions up front.

Express
91

Then a gap. In no particular order, but these teams will enter A brackets

S2S Hawks
Rebels
True Blue
Force A
Regulators (if they keep the better Roar players)
Gold R$sh
Igloo
FLG
Legacy

Next level, in no order. But they are here because they generally play in B brackets, which is fine because there are a lot good players on these teams.

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Hitmen
Turtles
Force
S2S
Express
Epic Jokers
Empire
Outlaws
Igloo
91
E3
R$sh Rage
Rebels (new B team)
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Agreed significant gap from 91 and express. But the rest of the A teams are at different levels.
First is:
Force A
IGLOO
ROAR

NEXT comes:
S2S Hawks
GOLD R$sh

Followed by the rest. Some of the rest should be playing in B division.

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291144
08/13/19 06:37 PM
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It’s August. How bout holding off with the rankings for awhile. Don’t you think that makes sense. Each team gained and lost players.

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291152
08/13/19 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
It’s August. How bout holding off with the rankings for awhile. Don’t you think that makes sense. Each team gained and lost players.


After tryouts 91 dropped to around Roar.

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291159
08/14/19 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Did you consider the ad hoc ratings are actually helpful to some trying to figure out where to place their kids and what level is the best fit? Not everyone wears rose colored glasses-some of us are actually aware where are kids stack up and want to place them with kids of equal or slightly better skill that play against similar competition. Some kids simply enjoy the game and they nor their parents are using the club circuit for a scholarship, but simple to get better and to enhance their future high-school experience.


Okay, just club, no town. No rankings, but those are the tiers that most will agree with. Pick a tier and do your research, but if a team is still looking at this point... I would ask a lot of questions up front.

Express
91

Then a gap. In no particular order, but these teams will enter A brackets

S2S Hawks
Rebels
True Blue
Force A
Regulators (if they keep the better Roar players)
Gold R$sh
Igloo
FLG
Legacy

Next level, in no order. But they are here because they generally play in B brackets, which is fine because there are a lot good players on these teams.

24
Recon
Hitmen
Turtles
Force
S2S
Express
Epic Jokers
Empire
Outlaws
Igloo
91
E3
R$sh Rage
Rebels (new B team)
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Agreed significant gap from 91 and express. But the rest of the A teams are at different levels.
First is:
Force A
IGLOO
ROAR

NEXT comes:
S2S Hawks
GOLD R$sh

Followed by the rest. Some of the rest should be playing in B division.


My guess is at the upper tiers nothing really changes. All the shifting is at B level because those players are always looking for greener grass because the top of the b roster vs the bottom is wider than A teams and parents grow frustrated. Club is watered down not by the amount of players, that’s good for the game. It’s parents that put their kids in multi travel sports. It’s a just sign their kids up for everything mentality these days. Play all sports, definitely. But two travel teams in two sports is too much at the age imho

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291182
08/14/19 09:21 AM
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Here's the real rankings

http://www.USCL.com/rankings.html

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291186
08/14/19 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Did you consider the ad hoc ratings are actually helpful to some trying to figure out where to place their kids and what level is the best fit? Not everyone wears rose colored glasses-some of us are actually aware where are kids stack up and want to place them with kids of equal or slightly better skill that play against similar competition. Some kids simply enjoy the game and they nor their parents are using the club circuit for a scholarship, but simple to get better and to enhance their future high-school experience.


Okay, just club, no town. No rankings, but those are the tiers that most will agree with. Pick a tier and do your research, but if a team is still looking at this point... I would ask a lot of questions up front.

Express
91

Then a gap. In no particular order, but these teams will enter A brackets

S2S Hawks
Rebels
True Blue
Force A
Regulators (if they keep the better Roar players)
Gold R$sh
Igloo
FLG
Legacy

Next level, in no order. But they are here because they generally play in B brackets, which is fine because there are a lot good players on these teams.

24
Recon
Hitmen
Turtles
Force
S2S
Express
Epic Jokers
Empire
Outlaws
Igloo
91
E3
R$sh Rage
Rebels (new B team)
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Agreed significant gap from 91 and express. But the rest of the A teams are at different levels.
First is:
Force A
IGLOO
ROAR

NEXT comes:
S2S Hawks
GOLD R$sh

Followed by the rest. Some of the rest should be playing in B division.

How is Igloo that high?

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291187
08/14/19 10:02 AM
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Probably because they are ranking Igloo based on name only. Sort of like 91 but at east they are still legit. That igloo team was a complete mess from the coaches all the way down to SOME of the parents. And this year, based on the gossip, will be no different, if not worse. They are a lower level B team if that. Express trumps the entire class. It aint even close....

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291189
08/14/19 10:04 AM
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RANKING 12 YEAR OLD TEAMS... WOW WHO CARES .. GO TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS HOW GREAT YOUR SONS TEAM IS .... PATHETIC

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291190
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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291199
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Think you have it backwards. Best two teams other than 91 and Express are Hawks and Gold Rupoop.
Hawks beat both Force A and Roar this year, did not play Igloo.
Gold Rupoop is right there too.
Both teams can compete with the Big two, but depth is where they lose out.


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Agreed significant gap from 91 and express. But the rest of the A teams are at different levels.
First is:
Force A
IGLOO
ROAR

NEXT comes:
S2S Hawks
GOLD R$sh

Followed by the rest. Some of the rest should be playing in B division.
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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291214
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End result is the same. Only difference is the price you pay. ROAR was actually decent and punished Igloo multiple times and Force beat them too. If anything, drop igloo to the next lower tier so you can then compare puke, vomit and throw-up......

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291217
08/14/19 02:15 PM
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If I recall Force was 3-1 vs rebels last year. Both good teams. I do think out of the second tier teams they can all beat each other on any given day. It’s good competitive lacrosse.

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: Anonymous] #291226
08/14/19 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
If I recall Force was 3-1 vs R$sh last year. Both good teams. I do think out of the second tier teams they can all beat each other on any given day. It’s good competitive lacrosse.


The Force team in spring at Blatant was clearly very different by the time they started tournaments in June. By June Force had clearly improved or brought on better players. Or both. And even in spring Blatant Force beat R$sh.

Probably true S2S Hawks should be up with Force and Roar . They were competitive.

Igloo was up and down. All over the place. But if you watched them you could see they had good players. Gut feeling is because they are so town based and coaching had been iffy that Igloo will actually be low A's this year.

Besides 91 and Express the teams to watch would be Force, S2S Hawks and Roar. Maybe R$sh. But that's questionable.

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Re: Boys 2025-7th Grade Fall 2019/Summer 2020 [Re: TM@BOTC] #291232
08/14/19 04:27 PM
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Rebels are improved, but not with top 2. Will compete with all others. Hope all teams are at Blatant or tri star

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