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Girls 2025 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region #290454
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Use this thread to discuss lacrosse for Girls from the class of 2025 in the Mid-Atlantic region.

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Nothing? After all the A and B team hubbub?

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Hubbub about what? Hoco got fleeced, Skywalkers got better, Hero’s got worse, Coppermine and Nems didn’t change, and M&D got better

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Nothing? After all the A and B team hubbub?

Don't start. It's a new season.... don't stir the pot already

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Will be interesting! Heros will be going for the 3peat in NGLL. How did Heros get worse. They picked up a great goalie, and a draw specialist.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will be interesting! Heros will be going for the 3peat in NGLL. How did Heros get worse. They picked up a great goalie, and a draw specialist.

Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Will be interesting! Heros will be going for the 3peat in NGLL. How did Heros get worse. They picked up a great goalie, and a draw specialist.

Great for Heros, very exciting for a 7th grade team to have a specialist at such a young age.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Will be interesting! Heros will be going for the 3peat in NGLL. How did Heros get worse. They picked up a great goalie, and a draw specialist.

Great for Heros, very exciting for a 7th grade team to have a specialist at such a young age.

It is sad when teams only have one girl take the draw. It is all about the tee shirts LOL

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The new Hero’s goalie, takes minutes away from the best league goalie, and she wasn’t the best on her d team

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Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

This statement is a joke correct ??

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

This statement is a joke correct ??

Not a joke, just a fact

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The new Hero’s goalie, takes minutes away from the best league goalie, and she wasn’t the best on her d team

I dont know if she is the best. She takes up space and makes more body saves because of that. As shooters develop (like they are at this age) she is going to have to make stick saves. MnD lost a good goalie to Hero's but to your point that could be more of an issue depending on how playtime shared. Always stinks to take out a hot goalie for one that has been sitting a half.

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Of course all these games are for development and eventually being seen by college coaches not so much winning the games anyway. I do enjoy the koolaid bantar of who is the best and who lost the best player. A few years from now you will get it.

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How did tryouts go for Coppermine and NEMS? I'm curious if they had a good turnout since so many of the other teams had early tryouts. Sounds like Coppermine lost quite a few of their top players.

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How did tryouts go for Coppermine and NEMS? I'm curious if they had a good turnout since so many of the other teams had early tryouts. Sounds like Coppermine lost quite a few of their top players.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The new Hero’s goalie, takes minutes away from the best league goalie, and she wasn’t the best on her d team

Best in the league? I don't know about that, but the team is only stronger with both of those goalies. The new one is a strong player with a different style than their current. I will be interested to see how the team chooses to play them.

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Since Hero's didn't finish #1 in the Club Lax rankings (for whatever they're worth), they clearly had room to improve (as Ricky Bobby says, "if you aren't first, you're last"), so swiping a strong goalie from one of the teams above them clearly tells me that they aren't standing pat being 2nd lost (3rd place), so kudos to them. We will see how it plays out.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

This statement is a joke correct ??

Not a joke, just a fact


I have news for you. M&D is a collector of very talented lacrosse players - it has nothing to do with the coaching. Almost every team there now is being coach by some girl's parent who has lacrosse experience. Some have lots of coaching experience (although I'm not sure the experience translates) other have rec-ball coaching experience. M&D is not some club where magic coaches make the teams good. The players come to that club already good. Anyone who says other wise is not being honest

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Amen

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

This statement is a joke correct ??

Not a joke, just a fact


I have news for you. M&D is a collector of very talented lacrosse players - it has nothing to do with the coaching. Almost every team there now is being coach by some girl's parent who has lacrosse experience. Some have lots of coaching experience (although I'm not sure the experience translates) other have rec-ball coaching experience. M&D is not some club where magic coaches make the teams good. The players come to that club already good. Anyone who says other wise is not being honest

Finally the truth-nicely done. I do feel bad for the midlevel coaches busting butt to develop these kids who later bolt.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

This statement is a joke correct ??

Not a joke, just a fact


I have news for you. M&D is a collector of very talented lacrosse players - it has nothing to do with the coaching. Almost every team there now is being coach by some girl's parent who has lacrosse experience. Some have lots of coaching experience (although I'm not sure the experience translates) other have rec-ball coaching experience. M&D is not some club where magic coaches make the teams good. The players come to that club already good. Anyone who says other wise is not being honest


Very true. Though it takes the "right" coach to manage that talent and put them in position to win. Girls have come on board to teams like MnD and Hero's and can't buy in. Those players often find themselves looking for new teams where they can freelance and be "the girl".

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

This statement is a joke correct ??

Not a joke, just a fact


I have news for you. M&D is a collector of very talented lacrosse players - it has nothing to do with the coaching. Almost every team there now is being coach by some girl's parent who has lacrosse experience. Some have lots of coaching experience (although I'm not sure the experience translates) other have rec-ball coaching experience. M&D is not some club where magic coaches make the teams good. The players come to that club already good. Anyone who says other wise is not being honest


Very true. Though it takes the "right" coach to manage that talent and put them in position to win. Girls have come on board to teams like MnD and Hero's and can't buy in. Those players often find themselves looking for new teams where they can freelance and be "the girl".

True but I bet you could take most coaches and give then that talent and wins would be plentiful. Lacrosse is a game of who has the most talented players-college included. Presbyterian will not beat Maryland ever (not because of coaching)

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

This statement is a joke correct ??

Not a joke, just a fact


I have news for you. M&D is a collector of very talented lacrosse players - it has nothing to do with the coaching. Almost every team there now is being coach by some girl's parent who has lacrosse experience. Some have lots of coaching experience (although I'm not sure the experience translates) other have rec-ball coaching experience. M&D is not some club where magic coaches make the teams good. The players come to that club already good. Anyone who says other wise is not being honest


Very true. Though it takes the "right" coach to manage that talent and put them in position to win. Girls have come on board to teams like MnD and Hero's and can't buy in. Those players often find themselves looking for new teams where they can freelance and be "the girl".

True but I bet you could take most coaches and give then that talent and wins would be plentiful. Lacrosse is a game of who has the most talented players-college included. Presbyterian will not beat Maryland ever (not because of coaching)

Probably against the mid-level and weaker teams. When you play teams of equal talent coaching makes a difference. Players win games, coaches lose them.

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Enjoy it now, because as with most of the heros teams by the time they get to high school age most of the Skywalkers and M&D girls have past them by and are much better because of the quality of coaching they receive at those 2 clubs.

This statement is a joke correct ??

Not a joke, just a fact


I have news for you. M&D is a collector of very talented lacrosse players - it has nothing to do with the coaching. Almost every team there now is being coach by some girl's parent who has lacrosse experience. Some have lots of coaching experience (although I'm not sure the experience translates) other have rec-ball coaching experience. M&D is not some club where magic coaches make the teams good. The players come to that club already good. Anyone who says other wise is not being honest


Very true. Though it takes the "right" coach to manage that talent and put them in position to win. Girls have come on board to teams like MnD and Hero's and can't buy in. Those players often find themselves looking for new teams where they can freelance and be "the girl".

True but I bet you could take most coaches and give then that talent and wins would be plentiful. Lacrosse is a game of who has the most talented players-college included. Presbyterian will not beat Maryland ever (not because of coaching)

Probably against the mid-level and weaker teams. When you play teams of equal talent coaching makes a difference. Players win games, coaches lose them.


Coaches lose them? Bet your a fun parent to have on a team, and I bet you have the coach on speedial.

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I have news for you. M&D is a collector of very talented lacrosse players - it has nothing to do with the coaching. Almost every team there now is being coach by some girl's parent who has lacrosse experience. Some have lots of coaching experience (although I'm not sure the experience translates) other have rec-ball coaching experience. M&D is not some club where magic coaches make the teams good. The players come to that club already good. Anyone who says other wise is not being honest [/quote]

Very true. Though it takes the "right" coach to manage that talent and put them in position to win. Girls have come on board to teams like MnD and Hero's and can't buy in. Those players often find themselves looking for new teams where they can freelance and be "the girl".[/quote]
True but I bet you could take most coaches and give then that talent and wins would be plentiful. Lacrosse is a game of who has the most talented players-college included. Presbyterian will not beat Maryland ever (not because of coaching)[/quote]
Probably against the mid-level and weaker teams. When you play teams of equal talent coaching makes a difference. Players win games, coaches lose them.[/quote]

Coaches lose them? Bet your a fun parent to have on a team, and I bet you have the coach on speedial.
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Good question is if that coach was put on weaker team maybe midlevel -would they become a dominant team due to that superior coaching.

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Coaches lose them? Bet your a fun parent to have on a team, and I bet you have the coach on speedial.
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You are joking right? You must be one of those parents that never played a sport if you do not understand this concept. The best coaches regardless of talent take the blame for a loss and give the players all the credit for wins. So yes players win game and coaches lose them.

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ya'll on crack?

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Just for fun/debate, fall rankings:


1. Hero's- Cannot argue their record in championship games last year. Can they duplicate this fall?
2. M&D- On paper one of the most talented teams in the country. Can they win the big games?
3. NEMS- Good core group of talent. Gave some teams some trouble. Can the get over the hump?
4. Skywalkers- A decent team with some athletes. Did they players they added fill in the holes?
5. LBC- Always a tough team. Can they replace key players lost?
6. Pride- Narrowly missed the playoffs last year. Did they add depth to get them in the final 4.
7. Stars- Like Pride missed the playoffs by 2 games. Did they recruit will in the off season?
8. MD United- Did they lock down the talent in AA Co? will the added players get them out of the cellar?
9. Red Shirts- Moving back to B is not a bad option.
10. FCA- Too bad Calvert Hall is a boys school but luckily they will get to play TLC or MC Midnight
11. TLC/MC Midnight- Hopefully they added some talent to put some points on the board. Last year their combined goals between the 2 teams was less than 11 of the 14 teams in the league.

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You need to change the positions of NEMS and Pride. Should be M&D, Hero's, Sky Walkers, Pride, and then all the others.

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Are you for real? Only "those" parents are worried about which team will win the NGLL. 7th grade

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What about Coppermine and Hoco?

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
What about Coppermine and Hoco?

Good catch. Based on the players both teams lost I would have to lump them in there between MD United and Redshirts. If they picked a up a few they may be a tad above those 2. But based on water cooler roomers they both lost a lot of players.

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Sky Walkers had a joke NGLL schedule. They played two 0-8 teams and one 1-7 team. They only had 1 win against a team with a winning record. And get blown out by M&D 19-1, which is M&D's biggest goal differential for the season. There is probably 6 other teams in the pool that would have made the playoffs if they had Sky Walkers schedule.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sky Walkers had a joke NGLL schedule. They played two 0-8 teams and one 1-7 team. They only had 1 win against a team with a winning record. And get blown out by M&D 19-1, which is M&D's biggest goal differential for the season. There is probably 6 other teams in the pool that would have made the playoffs if they had Sky Walkers schedule.

wow..this 7th grade girls lacrosse must be some serious LaxinItUp.

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Well something must have happened between the Skywalker games against M&D in the NGLL and at the end of the season. They tied them and should've beaten them in the Germantown tournament. Skywalkers will be an improved team this year - especially if/when they cut the size or their roster. Also - besides the two games against HEro's - M&D had their share of blowouts too.

It's not that Skywalkers had a joke NGLL schedule - it's that once you get past the top 4 teams at this age - the caliber of the teams fall off.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Sky Walkers had a joke NGLL schedule. They played two 0-8 teams and one 1-7 team. They only had 1 win against a team with a winning record. And get blown out by M&D 19-1, which is M&D's biggest goal differential for the season. There is probably 6 other teams in the pool that would have made the playoffs if they had Sky Walkers schedule.



Could you please explain why you posted this? What team does your daughter play for? Who are the other 6 teams that could have made it? Pride definitely is very talented. HOCO might have had a shot. Not sure who else you are considering.

You could have mentioned that:
1. Sky Walkers played Hero's tough in the NGLL semifinal. Sky Walkers was beating them at the half but Hero's was able to control the draws and played extremely well in the second half. Hero's is very talented and ended up winning NGLL for the 2nd year in a row.
2. Sky Walkers tied M&D in the Capital City Lax Festival Tournament. That was exciting considering the high level of respect Sky Walkers has for M&D.
3. Sky Walkers held the Yellow Jackets to 5 points at the MidAtlantic Summer Club Championships.
4. Sky Walkers had nothing to do with the NGLL schedule. There were many weak teams that had to play someone.

Sky Walkers consistently enters the toughest tournaments and plays the hardest teams--look it up for yourself. Their record at tournaments may not always be the best, but they are always looking to play the best--M&D, Hero's, Yellow Jackets, Pride, etc.

Best of luck to your team and your daughter.

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[quote=Anonymous]Sky Walkers had a joke NGLL schedule. They played two 0-8 teams and one 1-7 team. They only had 1 win against a team with a winning record. And get blown out by M&D 19-1, which is M&D's biggest goal differential for the season. There is probably 6 other teams in the pool that would have made the playoffs if they had Sky Walkers schedule.



"Could you please explain why you posted this? What team does your daughter play for? Who are the other 6 teams that could have made it? Pride definitely is very talented. HOCO might have had a shot. Not sure who else you are considering."


He posted that because he wants to stir the pot. Why not just give props to all these girls - who cares that the Skywalkers 11 & 12 yr olds had an easier schedule ( that they had no control over) than other teams?. All the top teams had blow out games / all had some close games. Skywalkers improved by the end of the season and that's what matters. M&D will likely always have the strongest team - but Skywalkers is always right there too. Their teams just take a little longer to gel. Trust me I've been around long enough to see it.

These parents are wayyyy tooo serious for 12 year old lacrosse.

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After watching games last year there should be A B C brackets

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just for fun/debate, fall rankings:


1. Hero's- Cannot argue their record in championship games last year. Can they duplicate this fall?
2. M&D- On paper one of the most talented teams in the country. Can they win the big games?
3. NEMS- Good core group of talent. Gave some teams some trouble. Can the get over the hump?
4. Skywalkers- A decent team with some athletes. Did they players they added fill in the holes?
5. LBC- Always a tough team. Can they replace key players lost?
6. Pride- Narrowly missed the playoffs last year. Did they add depth to get them in the final 4.
7. Stars- Like Pride missed the playoffs by 2 games. Did they recruit will in the off season?
8. MD United- Did they lock down the talent in AA Co? will the added players get them out of the cellar?
9. Red Shirts- Moving back to B is not a bad option.
10. FCA- Too bad Calvert Hall is a boys school but luckily they will get to play TLC or MC Midnight
11. TLC/MC Midnight- Hopefully they added some talent to put some points on the board. Last year their combined goals between the 2 teams was less than 11 of the 14 teams in the league.


Top 6 only should be in one bracket-I like the 3 brackets suggested

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After watching games last year there should be A B C brackets


3 brackets would make sense. Run the NGLL like one of the Summer Tournaments with several brackets.

Also CC LAX and Integrity are moving up to A. Is M&D Red or Hero's White moving up as well?

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After watching games last year there should be A B C brackets


3 brackets would make sense. Run the NGLL like one of the Summer Tournaments with several brackets.

Also CC LAX and Integrity are moving up to A. Is M&D Red or Hero's White moving up as well?

CC Lax and M&D Red yes Inetgrity and hero white will get pasted in A

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After watching games last year there should be A B C brackets


3 brackets would make sense. Run the NGLL like one of the Summer Tournaments with several brackets.

Also CC LAX and Integrity are moving up to A. Is M&D Red or Hero's White moving up as well?

CC Lax and M&D Red yes Inetgrity and hero white will get pasted in A


All 4 would be better than FCA, TLC and MC Elite

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After watching games last year there should be A B C brackets


3 brackets would make sense. Run the NGLL like one of the Summer Tournaments with several brackets.

Also CC LAX and Integrity are moving up to A. Is M&D Red or Hero's White moving up as well?

CC Lax and M&D Red yes Inetgrity and hero white will get pasted in A


All 4 would be better than FCA, TLC and MC Elite

I agree with the 3 brackets

Teams like MDU and Integrity don't belong in A

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After watching games last year there should be A B C brackets


3 brackets would make sense. Run the NGLL like one of the Summer Tournaments with several brackets.

Also CC LAX and Integrity are moving up to A. Is M&D Red or Hero's White moving up as well?

CC Lax and M&D Red yes Inetgrity and hero white will get pasted in A


All 4 would be better than FCA, TLC and MC Elite

I agree with the 3 brackets

Teams like MDU and Integrity don't belong in A


I like 3 brackets of 6 or 8 teams with each team playing each other 1x. That way there are no teams that have an "easier" schedule. Top 4 teams make it if its a 6 team league and top 6 make in an 8 team league (with 1 and 2 getting bi's).

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I like 3 brackets of 6 or 8 teams with each team playing each other 1x. That way there are no teams that have an "easier" schedule. Top 4 teams make it if its a 6 team league and top 6 make in an 8 team league (with 1 and 2 getting bi's).


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Well something must have happened between the Skywalker games against M&D in the NGLL and at the end of the season. They tied them and should've beaten them in the Germantown tournament. Skywalkers will be an improved team this year - especially if/when they cut the size or their roster. Also - besides the two games against HEro's - M&D had their share of blowouts too.

It's not that Skywalkers had a joke NGLL schedule - it's that once you get past the top 4 teams at this age - the caliber of the teams fall off.

Skywalkers definitely had the easier schedule. Looking back at last season, Pride, Nems, Hoco, Stars and even Coppermine could have had a shot for the playoffs had they played similar schedules. Then we would be complaining about how "they" had an "joke" schedule.

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Well something must have happened between the Skywalker games against M&D in the NGLL and at the end of the season. They tied them and should've beaten them in the Germantown tournament. Skywalkers will be an improved team this year - especially if/when they cut the size or their roster. Also - besides the two games against HEro's - M&D had their share of blowouts too.

It's not that Skywalkers had a joke NGLL schedule - it's that once you get past the top 4 teams at this age - the caliber of the teams fall off.


Skywalkers definitely had the easier schedule. Looking back at last season, Pride, Nems, Hoco, Stars and even Coppermine could have had a shot for the playoffs had they played similar schedules. Then we would be complaining about how "they" had an "joke" schedule.


Sky Walkers has beaten all of the teams you listed throughout the summer season except for Pride. Time to tell us what you are really upset about. Let it out because we are here to help you. Not good to hang onto things for so long.

Last year Sky Walkers won 1 game and lost 7. Can you show me one post where Sky Walkers was complaining about their schedule and losing 7 games? Sky Walkers took the schedule that was provided and did the best they could as did all of the other programs. The reality is that high school and college coaches won't be asking your daughters how their team did in NGLL or at any of the tournaments. You can keep focusing on wins and schedules, but ultimately you just end up letting the kids down. Trust me, all of the top teams will be happier taking a tough loss against a strong team then beating a team easily.

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Well something must have happened between the Skywalker games against M&D in the NGLL and at the end of the season. They tied them and should've beaten them in the Germantown tournament. Skywalkers will be an improved team this year - especially if/when they cut the size or their roster. Also - besides the two games against HEro's - M&D had their share of blowouts too.

It's not that Skywalkers had a joke NGLL schedule - it's that once you get past the top 4 teams at this age - the caliber of the teams fall off.


Skywalkers definitely had the easier schedule. Looking back at last season, Pride, Nems, Hoco, Stars and even Coppermine could have had a shot for the playoffs had they played similar schedules. Then we would be complaining about how "they" had an "joke" schedule.


Sky Walkers has beaten all of the teams you listed throughout the summer season except for Pride. Time to tell us what you are really upset about. Let it out because we are here to help you. Not good to hang onto things for so long.

Last year Sky Walkers won 1 game and lost 7. Can you show me one post where Sky Walkers was complaining about their schedule and losing 7 games? Sky Walkers took the schedule that was provided and did the best they could as did all of the other programs. The reality is that high school and college coaches won't be asking your daughters how their team did in NGLL or at any of the tournaments. You can keep focusing on wins and schedules, but ultimately you just end up letting the kids down. Trust me, all of the top teams will be happier taking a tough loss against a strong team then beating a team easily.

Just a little heads up-Coaches recruit players not teams. They don't give a hoot about wins and losses and tee shirts won.
Make sure your daughter is one of the top players on her team or she will be sorry. Find a well coached team that also develops girls instead of just collecting talent (as someone previously stated). NGLL is fun and a great money maker for CR but no one is watching during college lax season.

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Well something must have happened between the Skywalker games against M&D in the NGLL and at the end of the season. They tied them and should've beaten them in the Germantown tournament. Skywalkers will be an improved team this year - especially if/when they cut the size or their roster. Also - besides the two games against HEro's - M&D had their share of blowouts too.

It's not that Skywalkers had a joke NGLL schedule - it's that once you get past the top 4 teams at this age - the caliber of the teams fall off.


Skywalkers definitely had the easier schedule. Looking back at last season, Pride, Nems, Hoco, Stars and even Coppermine could have had a shot for the playoffs had they played similar schedules. Then we would be complaining about how "they" had an "joke" schedule.


Sky Walkers has beaten all of the teams you listed throughout the summer season except for Pride. Time to tell us what you are really upset about. Let it out because we are here to help you. Not good to hang onto things for so long.

Last year Sky Walkers won 1 game and lost 7. Can you show me one post where Sky Walkers was complaining about their schedule and losing 7 games? Sky Walkers took the schedule that was provided and did the best they could as did all of the other programs. The reality is that high school and college coaches won't be asking your daughters how their team did in NGLL or at any of the tournaments. You can keep focusing on wins and schedules, but ultimately you just end up letting the kids down. Trust me, all of the top teams will be happier taking a tough loss against a strong team then beating a team easily.



My daughter doesn't play for any of those teams mentioned so my comment is unbiased. You mention what HS and college coaches are asking them when they are 2 years out from HS and you talk about letting kids down? Give me a break. This is about the 2019 fall and 2020 spring season. So yes, it is an open forum to discuss win's, losses, who got the crappy call or schedule. We'll save the college discussion for the 2024 season.

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Well something must have happened between the Skywalker games against M&D in the NGLL and at the end of the season. They tied them and should've beaten them in the Germantown tournament. Skywalkers will be an improved team this year - especially if/when they cut the size or their roster. Also - besides the two games against HEro's - M&D had their share of blowouts too.

It's not that Skywalkers had a joke NGLL schedule - it's that once you get past the top 4 teams at this age - the caliber of the teams fall off.


Skywalkers definitely had the easier schedule. Looking back at last season, Pride, Nems, Hoco, Stars and even Coppermine could have had a shot for the playoffs had they played similar schedules. Then we would be complaining about how "they" had an "joke" schedule.


Sky Walkers has beaten all of the teams you listed throughout the summer season except for Pride. Time to tell us what you are really upset about. Let it out because we are here to help you. Not good to hang onto things for so long.

Last year Sky Walkers won 1 game and lost 7. Can you show me one post where Sky Walkers was complaining about their schedule and losing 7 games? Sky Walkers took the schedule that was provided and did the best they could as did all of the other programs. The reality is that high school and college coaches won't be asking your daughters how their team did in NGLL or at any of the tournaments. You can keep focusing on wins and schedules, but ultimately you just end up letting the kids down. Trust me, all of the top teams will be happier taking a tough loss against a strong team then beating a team easily.



My daughter doesn't play for any of those teams mentioned so my comment is unbiased. You mention what HS and college coaches are asking them when they are 2 years out from HS and you talk about letting kids down? Give me a break. This is about the 2019 fall and 2020 spring season. So yes, it is an open forum to discuss win's, losses, who got the crappy call or schedule. We'll save the college discussion for the 2024 season.


The "win" is your daughter's development and how well the team executes. I can appreciate that parents and daughters have different goals and therefore the conversations on this site will differ quite a bit. Personally, I'll tell my daughter to let the losers worry about winning. Losers always find excuses for failures and learn to blame others. Winners take responsibility for themselves and keep pushing to improve regardless of outcomes. Winners see failures as learning opportunities. Coaches and parents that always worry about the wins are less worried about team development--they are thinking short term. So I respect everyone's opinion and need to discuss wins, losses, schedules, etc, but don't let that take away from your daughter's love for the sport. My daughter and I rarely discuss scores. I congratulate her on nice dodges, passes, and generally just executing plays well. She loves the sport and looks forward to getting outdoors with her teammates, which is more priceless than any win.

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Well something must have happened between the Skywalker games against M&D in the NGLL and at the end of the season. They tied them and should've beaten them in the Germantown tournament. Skywalkers will be an improved team this year - especially if/when they cut the size or their roster. Also - besides the two games against HEro's - M&D had their share of blowouts too.

It's not that Skywalkers had a joke NGLL schedule - it's that once you get past the top 4 teams at this age - the caliber of the teams fall off.


Skywalkers definitely had the easier schedule. Looking back at last season, Pride, Nems, Hoco, Stars and even Coppermine could have had a shot for the playoffs had they played similar schedules. Then we would be complaining about how "they" had an "joke" schedule.


Sky Walkers has beaten all of the teams you listed throughout the summer season except for Pride. Time to tell us what you are really upset about. Let it out because we are here to help you. Not good to hang onto things for so long.

Last year Sky Walkers won 1 game and lost 7. Can you show me one post where Sky Walkers was complaining about their schedule and losing 7 games? Sky Walkers took the schedule that was provided and did the best they could as did all of the other programs. The reality is that high school and college coaches won't be asking your daughters how their team did in NGLL or at any of the tournaments. You can keep focusing on wins and schedules, but ultimately you just end up letting the kids down. Trust me, all of the top teams will be happier taking a tough loss against a strong team then beating a team easily.



My daughter doesn't play for any of those teams mentioned so my comment is unbiased. You mention what HS and college coaches are asking them when they are 2 years out from HS and you talk about letting kids down? Give me a break. This is about the 2019 fall and 2020 spring season. So yes, it is an open forum to discuss win's, losses, who got the crappy call or schedule. We'll save the college discussion for the 2024 season.


The "win" is your daughter's development and how well the team executes. I can appreciate that parents and daughters have different goals and therefore the conversations on this site will differ quite a bit. Personally, I'll tell my daughter to let the losers worry about winning. Losers always find excuses for failures and learn to blame others. Winners take responsibility for themselves and keep pushing to improve regardless of outcomes. Winners see failures as learning opportunities. Coaches and parents that always worry about the wins are less worried about team development--they are thinking short term. So I respect everyone's opinion and need to discuss wins, losses, schedules, etc, but don't let that take away from your daughter's love for the sport. My daughter and I rarely discuss scores. I congratulate her on nice dodges, passes, and generally just executing plays well. She loves the sport and looks forward to getting outdoors with her teammates, which is more priceless than any win.


That's great. Your daughter can accomplish all that by playing for a good rec team. That said, if that is your true philosophy, then why have your daughter play for such a competitive team and league? If you didn't care about winning, why doesn't your daughter play for a lower level team and help develop that team? is it because they don't win or is it because they aren't as talented (therefore they don't win)? I mean they have good coaches also that can develop your daughter. I'm not here to attack you but at the same time, don't jump on a board (for a competitive sport and league like this one) and play this "holier than thou" attitude. Your daughter, like mine is playing on their respective teams to compete at high level. And last time I checked competitive teams and people like to win. Making friends and enjoying the moment are part of the ride.

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Well something must have happened between the Skywalker games against M&D in the NGLL and at the end of the season. They tied them and should've beaten them in the Germantown tournament. Skywalkers will be an improved team this year - especially if/when they cut the size or their roster. Also - besides the two games against HEro's - M&D had their share of blowouts too.

It's not that Skywalkers had a joke NGLL schedule - it's that once you get past the top 4 teams at this age - the caliber of the teams fall off.


Skywalkers definitely had the easier schedule. Looking back at last season, Pride, Nems, Hoco, Stars and even Coppermine could have had a shot for the playoffs had they played similar schedules. Then we would be complaining about how "they" had an "joke" schedule.


Sky Walkers has beaten all of the teams you listed throughout the summer season except for Pride. Time to tell us what you are really upset about. Let it out because we are here to help you. Not good to hang onto things for so long.

Last year Sky Walkers won 1 game and lost 7. Can you show me one post where Sky Walkers was complaining about their schedule and losing 7 games? Sky Walkers took the schedule that was provided and did the best they could as did all of the other programs. The reality is that high school and college coaches won't be asking your daughters how their team did in NGLL or at any of the tournaments. You can keep focusing on wins and schedules, but ultimately you just end up letting the kids down. Trust me, all of the top teams will be happier taking a tough loss against a strong team then beating a team easily.



My daughter doesn't play for any of those teams mentioned so my comment is unbiased. You mention what HS and college coaches are asking them when they are 2 years out from HS and you talk about letting kids down? Give me a break. This is about the 2019 fall and 2020 spring season. So yes, it is an open forum to discuss win's, losses, who got the crappy call or schedule. We'll save the college discussion for the 2024 season.


The "win" is your daughter's development and how well the team executes. I can appreciate that parents and daughters have different goals and therefore the conversations on this site will differ quite a bit. Personally, I'll tell my daughter to let the losers worry about winning. Losers always find excuses for failures and learn to blame others. Winners take responsibility for themselves and keep pushing to improve regardless of outcomes. Winners see failures as learning opportunities. Coaches and parents that always worry about the wins are less worried about team development--they are thinking short term. So I respect everyone's opinion and need to discuss wins, losses, schedules, etc, but don't let that take away from your daughter's love for the sport. My daughter and I rarely discuss scores. I congratulate her on nice dodges, passes, and generally just executing plays well. She loves the sport and looks forward to getting outdoors with her teammates, which is more priceless than any win.


That's great. Your daughter can accomplish all that by playing for a good rec team. That said, if that is your true philosophy, then why have your daughter play for such a competitive team and league? If you didn't care about winning, why doesn't your daughter play for a lower level team and help develop that team? is it because they don't win or is it because they aren't as talented (therefore they don't win)? I mean they have good coaches also that can develop your daughter. I'm not here to attack you but at the same time, don't jump on a board (for a competitive sport and league like this one) and play this "holier than thou" attitude. Your daughter, like mine is playing on their respective teams to compete at high level. And last time I checked competitive teams and people like to win. Making friends and enjoying the moment are part of the ride.


It's this undeveloped and defensive mind set that causes many of the issues today. Your post is argumentative rather than trying to have a discussion. My daughter plays for multiple competitive teams in 3 sports. My daughter has developed into a strong player on competitive teams by not focusing on the wins.
Here's what parent's and coaches sound like when focusing on the win:
1. "Go to goal!" (i.e. neglect your teammates and learning)
2. "That wasn't a foul!" (let's blame the ref instead of focusing on improving the player)
3. "That girl/team just plays dirty!" (let's blame the other teams for player deficiencies).
4. "What is wrong with you, make the play!" (arguing with daughters after each game. Daughters start to play conservatively rather than feeling free to experiment and learning from mistakes.
5. "We should move to a team that wins more." (blaming the players and coaches rather than trying to improve the player).
6. "I'll give you $5 for each goal you score!"
7. "Why would they put you on defense? Don't they know how good you are?"

Shortsighted people who don't have their daughter's best interest really like to focus on the win. The key here isn't that we don't enjoy winning--we just don't focus on winning at the expense of developing the team. I know you won't be able to comprehend this, because you are too interested in being right rather than considering what may be best for your daughter. Why not focus on being constructive and work on building your daughter into a strong and confident woman?

Trust me, by concentrating on the fundamentals and making sure the focus is on execution you will find that the wins just keep on coming. Just stop making this about you and let your daughter enjoy the ride. My wife and I have coached at many levels and we have found that you are they type of parent that everyone dreads. Good luck.

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Skywalkers definitely had the easier schedule. Looking back at last season, Pride, Nems, Hoco, Stars and even Coppermine could have had a shot for the playoffs had they played similar schedules. Then we would be complaining about how "they" had an "joke" schedule. [/quote]

Sky Walkers has beaten all of the teams you listed throughout the summer season except for Pride. Time to tell us what you are really upset about. Let it out because we are here to help you. Not good to hang onto things for so long.

Last year Sky Walkers won 1 game and lost 7. Can you show me one post where Sky Walkers was complaining about their schedule and losing 7 games? Sky Walkers took the schedule that was provided and did the best they could as did all of the other programs. The reality is that high school and college coaches won't be asking your daughters how their team did in NGLL or at any of the tournaments. You can keep focusing on wins and schedules, but ultimately you just end up letting the kids down

The "win" is your daughter's development and how well the team executes. I can appreciate that parents and daughters have different goals and therefore the conversations on this site will differ quite a bit. Personally, I'll tell my daughter to let the losers worry about winning. Losers always find excuses for failures and learn to blame others. Winners take responsibility for themselves and keep pushing to improve regardless of outcomes. Winners see failures as learning opportunities. Coaches and parents that always worry about the wins are less worried about team development--they are thinking short term. So I respect everyone's opinion and need to discuss wins, losses, schedules, etc, but don't let that take away from your daughter's love for the sport. My daughter and I rarely discuss scores. I congratulate her on nice dodges, passes, and generally just executing plays well. She loves the sport and looks forward to getting outdoors with her teammates, which is more priceless than any win.[/quote]

That's great. Your daughter can accomplish all that by playing for a good rec team. That said, if that is your true philosophy, then why have your daughter play for such a competitive team and league? If you didn't care about winning, why doesn't your daughter play for a lower level team and help develop that team? is it because they don't win or is it because they aren't as talented (therefore they don't win)? I mean they have good coaches also that can develop your daughter. I'm not here to attack you but at the same time, don't jump on a board (for a competitive sport and league like this one) and play this "holier than thou" attitude. Your daughter, like mine is playing on their respective teams to compete at high level. And last time I checked competitive teams and people like to win. Making friends and enjoying the moment are part of the ride. [/quote]

It's this undeveloped and defensive mind set that causes many of the issues today. Your post is argumentative rather than trying to have a discussion. My daughter plays for multiple competitive teams in 3 sports. My daughter has developed into a strong player on competitive teams by not focusing on the wins.
Here's what parent's and coaches sound like when focusing on the win:
1. "Go to goal!" (i.e. neglect your teammates and learning)
2. "That wasn't a foul!" (let's blame the ref instead of focusing on improving the player)
3. "That girl/team just plays dirty!" (let's blame the other teams for player deficiencies).
4. "What is wrong with you, make the play!" (arguing with daughters after each game. Daughters start to play conservatively rather than feeling free to experiment and learning from mistakes.
5. "We should move to a team that wins more." (blaming the players and coaches rather than trying to improve the player).
6. "I'll give you $5 for each goal you score!"
7. "Why would they put you on defense? Don't they know how good you are?"

Shortsighted people who don't have their daughter's best interest really like to focus on the win. The key here isn't that we don't enjoy winning--we just don't focus on winning at the expense of developing the team. I know you won't be able to comprehend this, because you are too interested in being right rather than considering what may be best for your daughter. Why not focus on being constructive and work on building your daughter into a strong and confident woman?

Trust me, by concentrating on the fundamentals and making sure the focus is on execution you will find that the wins just keep on coming. Just stop making this about you and let your daughter enjoy the ride. My wife and I have coached at many levels and we have found that you are they type of parent that everyone dreads. Good luck.

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You seem to be making a lot of assumptions and trying to attack me. But I will say this I too have coached at the rec, hs and even collegiate level developed my fair share of players along the way. Each one of those players always put team first and that started from the top. So please stop with “i’m The type of parent coaches dread”. My kids have been playing organized sports for years and I have never approAched a coach other than to thank and complement them. So you have no clue on my team philosophy.

From what I gather (based on your post) is that your daughter plays 3 sports at a competitive level (yay, so do most of these girls at this level) and that she doesn’t mind losing. This is all great but you didn’t answer the question of why? If winning a game or playing io win a game do not matter then why have them play on a competitive team and league? Why not play rec or for a less competitive team? I see plenty of good athletes that want to develop and have “fun” and choose to do just that.

And for the record the original debate was skywalkers having an easier schedule. Which is a fact. They played 4 teams with a losing record and did not have to play heroes or lbc in the regular season. Though I’m sure that the person doing schedules having ties to sw had nothing to do with that...

While we are at it maybe you can explain why sw opted to skip a game at l4tc? Did they care so little about winning that they skipped the game? Screwing the other team that traveled out of a game.

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Skywalkers definitely had the easier schedule. Looking back at last season, Pride, Nems, Hoco, Stars and even Coppermine could have had a shot for the playoffs had they played similar schedules. Then we would be complaining about how "they" had an "joke" schedule. [/quote]

Sky Walkers has beaten all of the teams you listed throughout the summer season except for Pride. Time to tell us what you are really upset about. Let it out because we are here to help you. Not good to hang onto things for so long.

Last year Sky Walkers won 1 game and lost 7. Can you show me one post where Sky Walkers was complaining about their schedule and losing 7 games? Sky Walkers took the schedule that was provided and did the best they could as did all of the other programs. The reality is that high school and college coaches won't be asking your daughters how their team did in NGLL or at any of the tournaments. You can keep focusing on wins and schedules, but ultimately you just end up letting the kids down

The "win" is your daughter's development and how well the team executes. I can appreciate that parents and daughters have different goals and therefore the conversations on this site will differ quite a bit. Personally, I'll tell my daughter to let the losers worry about winning. Losers always find excuses for failures and learn to blame others. Winners take responsibility for themselves and keep pushing to improve regardless of outcomes. Winners see failures as learning opportunities. Coaches and parents that always worry about the wins are less worried about team development--they are thinking short term. So I respect everyone's opinion and need to discuss wins, losses, schedules, etc, but don't let that take away from your daughter's love for the sport. My daughter and I rarely discuss scores. I congratulate her on nice dodges, passes, and generally just executing plays well. She loves the sport and looks forward to getting outdoors with her teammates, which is more priceless than any win.[/quote]

That's great. Your daughter can accomplish all that by playing for a good rec team. That said, if that is your true philosophy, then why have your daughter play for such a competitive team and league? If you didn't care about winning, why doesn't your daughter play for a lower level team and help develop that team? is it because they don't win or is it because they aren't as talented (therefore they don't win)? I mean they have good coaches also that can develop your daughter. I'm not here to attack you but at the same time, don't jump on a board (for a competitive sport and league like this one) and play this "holier than thou" attitude. Your daughter, like mine is playing on their respective teams to compete at high level. And last time I checked competitive teams and people like to win. Making friends and enjoying the moment are part of the ride. [/quote]

It's this undeveloped and defensive mind set that causes many of the issues today. Your post is argumentative rather than trying to have a discussion. My daughter plays for multiple competitive teams in 3 sports. My daughter has developed into a strong player on competitive teams by not focusing on the wins.
Here's what parent's and coaches sound like when focusing on the win:
1. "Go to goal!" (i.e. neglect your teammates and learning)
2. "That wasn't a foul!" (let's blame the ref instead of focusing on improving the player)
3. "That girl/team just plays dirty!" (let's blame the other teams for player deficiencies).
4. "What is wrong with you, make the play!" (arguing with daughters after each game. Daughters start to play conservatively rather than feeling free to experiment and learning from mistakes.
5. "We should move to a team that wins more." (blaming the players and coaches rather than trying to improve the player).
6. "I'll give you $5 for each goal you score!"
7. "Why would they put you on defense? Don't they know how good you are?"

Shortsighted people who don't have their daughter's best interest really like to focus on the win. The key here isn't that we don't enjoy winning--we just don't focus on winning at the expense of developing the team. I know you won't be able to comprehend this, because you are too interested in being right rather than considering what may be best for your daughter. Why not focus on being constructive and work on building your daughter into a strong and confident woman?

Trust me, by concentrating on the fundamentals and making sure the focus is on execution you will find that the wins just keep on coming. Just stop making this about you and let your daughter enjoy the ride. My wife and I have coached at many levels and we have found that you are they type of parent that everyone dreads. Good luck.

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You seem to be making a lot of assumptions and trying to attack me. But I will say this I too have coached at the rec, hs and even collegiate level developed my fair share of players along the way. Each one of those players always put team first and that started from the top. So please stop with “i’m The type of parent coaches dread”. My kids have been playing organized sports for years and I have never approAched a coach other than to thank and complement them. So you have no clue on my team philosophy.

From what I gather (based on your post) is that your daughter plays 3 sports at a competitive level (yay, so do most of these girls at this level) and that she doesn’t mind losing. This is all great but you didn’t answer the question of why? If winning a game or playing io win a game do not matter then why have them play on a competitive team and league? Why not play rec or for a less competitive team? I see plenty of good athletes that want to develop and have “fun” and choose to do just that.

And for the record the original debate was skywalkers having an easier schedule. Which is a fact. They played 4 teams with a losing record and did not have to play heroes or lbc in the regular season. Though I’m sure that the person doing schedules having ties to sw had nothing to do with that...

While we are at it maybe you can explain why sw opted to skip a game at l4tc? Did they care so little about winning that they skipped the game? Screwing the other team that traveled out of a game.

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You have just proven that you cannot be reasoned with. I would have thought your understanding of player development would be higher considering your collegiate level of experience. The focus of high level clubs is to get their girls into college lacrosse programs. High level clubs focus on execution. Call them and ask them. Good coaches focus on mobilizing 12 girls to play as a team. Your daughter wins when the thousands of dollars spent on club lacrosse translates into high school varsity placement and playing in college. I'm not saying it isn't fun to win, but aren't you more excited to see your daughter effectively executing what she has learned during a game? In the end, it doesn't matter if my daughter and I like losing or like winning games, it matters if she was trained to play at a high level. I'm not paying thousands of dollars each year in hopes of winning games. High school and college coaches don't care about club team wins or loses (parents do though). College coaches come to showcases which are meant to display a girls talent and not look at who wins or loses. Focus on developing your daughters talent and celebrate that progress as the real win (and if she also wins the game too, fantastic).

Regarding your Sky Walkers fixation, I would suggest reading through prior posts. Is there some reason you are trying to slander the Sky Walkers program? Why does it matter what schedule Sky Walkers has or who they play? You are losing sight of the big picture which is surprising considering your collegiate level of experience. I hope you win all of your games and everyone is happy.

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Individual player development is important, but also no one wants to be on a 0-8 NGLL team.

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Individual player development is important, but also no one wants to be on a 0-8 NGLL team.

True but if your daughter is standing at the X retrieving missed shots on a 8-0 team -she will not be getting that college offer.

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Individual player development is important, but also no one wants to be on a 0-8 NGLL team.

True but if your daughter is standing at the X retrieving missed shots on a 8-0 team -she will not be getting that college offer.


There needs to be a balance. You don't need to be on a team that 8 & 0 - especially if you're near the bottom of the roster. But being on a team that loses every game stinks too. If girls would stay put at clubs other than the big three - the teams in Balto would be more balanced. Then you would have good girls playing at a bunch of different teams. Not good players sitting the bench and SW and M&D while comparable girls play more for whatever reason.

I have older kids -- trust me you want to stand out on your team

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Individual player development is important, but also no one wants to be on a 0-8 NGLL team.

True but if your daughter is standing at the X retrieving missed shots on a 8-0 team -she will not be getting that college offer.


There needs to be a balance. You don't need to be on a team that 8 & 0 - especially if you're near the bottom of the roster. But being on a team that loses every game stinks too. If girls would stay put at clubs other than the big three - the teams in Balto would be more balanced. Then you would have good girls playing at a bunch of different teams. Not good players sitting the bench and SW and M&D while comparable girls play more for whatever reason.

I have older kids -- trust me you want to stand out on your team

I totally agree-the movement of girls away from improving midlevel clubs keeps them struggling. It would be a great ride if multiple teams were competitive. It is tough for coaches to gage talent with teams lopsided.

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Wow just saw that MDU has a West (B) team this year-why. The A team is not good.

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Wow just saw that MDU has a West (B) team this year-why. The A team is not good.


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Wow just saw that MDU has a West (B) team this year-why. The A team is not good.


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@ 2k a kid its hard to turn down another 36-40+k. But yeah this is all about development.

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The numbers really add up. I thought MD united had a lot of new girls come from LBC or CC lax? All of the costs are murky would love to see the books. More teams more discounts for tourneys? Travel points for stay to play tourneys? I wonder what it is after costs? Is it $400 profit per player? Or does that seem to high? I was hoping we could find out something from that lawsuit in Long island.

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The numbers really add up. I thought MD united had a lot of new girls come from LBC or CC lax? All of the costs are murky would love to see the books. More teams more discounts for tourneys? Travel points for stay to play tourneys? I wonder what it is after costs? Is it $400 profit per player? Or does that seem to high? I was hoping we could find out something from that lawsuit in Long island.

Actually, they lost a lot of quality players and a goalie, but they took a lot of unskilled rec type players to have the B team. Nice moneygrab .

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The numbers really add up. I thought MD united had a lot of new girls come from LBC or CC lax? All of the costs are murky would love to see the books. More teams more discounts for tourneys? Travel points for stay to play tourneys? I wonder what it is after costs? Is it $400 profit per player? Or does that seem to high? I was hoping we could find out something from that lawsuit in Long island.

Actually, they lost a lot of quality players and a goalie, but they took a lot of unskilled rec type players to have the B team. Nice moneygrab .


From what I hear MDU sends out detailed club financials to all the parents detailing where the club fees are spent.

Also they added a few quality players, I think 3 or 4 from M&D and LBC.

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The numbers really add up. I thought MD united had a lot of new girls come from LBC or CC lax? All of the costs are murky would love to see the books. More teams more discounts for tourneys? Travel points for stay to play tourneys? I wonder what it is after costs? Is it $400 profit per player? Or does that seem to high? I was hoping we could find out something from that lawsuit in Long island.

Actually, they lost a lot of quality players and a goalie, but they took a lot of unskilled rec type players to have the B team. Nice moneygrab .

I also heard they were calling people at home trying to complete the B team. They lost their better GK as well -she went back to CC Lax-coaching an issue

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Looked at MDU website. That A team has like 4 coaches. Does each parent have a kid on the team?

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SW has a White Team (B) now. Just notice it on their website. Is that a brand new team?

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Skywalkers traditionally adds a White team in seventh grade.

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Skywalkers traditionally adds a White team in seventh grade.

Part of the problem-too many money grab B teams. Takes some players away from a midlevel looking for a few pieces.

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How did teams do at Prime Time Young Guns? First games after tryouts for many teams so it will be interesting to see how new team members are performing.

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Does it matter, it’s fall. Most teams are likely short handed due to other sports. Weather was garbage today.

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Dont disagree that the games/points dont matter but still annoying final scores weren't posted to Tourney Machine

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Dont disagree that the games/points dont matter but still annoying final scores weren't posted to Tourney Machine

It was a glorified playday with many teams missing players...you care way too much.

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Skywalkers traditionally adds a White team in seventh grade.

Part of the problem-too many money grab B teams. Takes some players away from a midlevel looking for a few pieces.


SW White is not a “money grab” B team. The parents/players would prefer to be there than a mid-level due to better coaching and getting better exposure. SW White teams typically produce 8-12 lower level D1 or higher level D2 commits.

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Skywalkers traditionally adds a White team in seventh grade.

Part of the problem-too many money grab B teams. Takes some players away from a midlevel looking for a few pieces.


SW White is not a “money grab” B team. The parents/players would prefer to be there than a mid-level due to better coaching and getting better exposure. SW White teams typically produce 8-12 lower level D1 or higher level D2 commits.

Keep drinking that Koolaid

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Skywalkers traditionally adds a White team in seventh grade.

Part of the problem-too many money grab B teams. Takes some players away from a midlevel looking for a few pieces.


SW White is not a “money grab” B team. The parents/players would prefer to be there than a mid-level due to better coaching and getting better exposure. SW White teams typically produce 8-12 lower level D1 or higher level D2 commits.

Thanks for the sales pitch MIke

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"Keep drinking that Koolaid"

Well my oldest played SW White and started lacrosse as a 7th grader and she plays low level D1

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[quote=Anonymous]Dont disagree that the games/points dont matter but still annoying final scores weren't posted to Tourney Machine

It was a glorified playday with many teams missing players...you care way too much.[/quote

I don't think you can get a fair read of any team that played on Sunday. Rain, cold and missing players make for some interesting games. I will say that Pride looks like they improved. Should be a fun season in the NGLL.

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"Keep drinking that Koolaid"

Well my oldest played SW White and started lacrosse as a 7th grader and she plays low level D1

Top players on A teams in B type brackets do better but if that is all you are shooting for congrats

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"Keep drinking that Koolaid"

Well my oldest played SW White and started lacrosse as a 7th grader and she plays low level D1

Top players on A teams in B type brackets do better but if that is all you are shooting for congrats


I don't understand what the comment "all I'm shooting for" means. My daughter decided later than her friends to pick up lacrosse. She was not good enough to make SW blue - but they offered her white - she accepted. She was a decent high school player - not the strongest on her team but a good player. She was able to get recruited on a low level D1 school. Since we're more worried about whether the school was a good fit and less about the lacrosse it worked out well for her. Not every girl playing club is going to get recruited to the top 10 -20 Div I schools. And I get the feeling you're an M&D parent - I have news for you - not every M&D black girl is going to get recruited to those schools either. Trust me - I've seen it the past couple years.

Maybe my family was shooting for a school that my daughter loves w/ the benefit of playing lacrosse there. She stays in shape - gets playing time (which is more than can be said for some black/blue/green girls going to MD, UNC, Syracuse, Hopkins, etc.) and is getting a good education with a little bit of a lax $$. If you took away the lacrosse and the $3,000 off - she would still want to be at her school . So yeah - it worked out for us.

But the whole point of my original comment was to say that YES - some people who play SW White can play DI. Obviously not all - maybe not alot - but some. And maybe they're not worried about playing DI - there's alot of schools out there. geez !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't endorse Skywalkers - but it worked out well for us. But people on here seem to want to bash them for everything. They offer a white team - people accept and pay the money. Why other people/strangers care and feel the need to comment is beyond me

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"Keep drinking that Koolaid"

Well my oldest played SW White and started lacrosse as a 7th grader and she plays low level D1

Top players on A teams in B type brackets do better but if that is all you are shooting for congrats


I don't understand what the comment "all I'm shooting for" means. My daughter decided later than her friends to pick up lacrosse. She was not good enough to make SW blue - but they offered her white - she accepted. She was a decent high school player - not the strongest on her team but a good player. She was able to get recruited on a low level D1 school. Since we're more worried about whether the school was a good fit and less about the lacrosse it worked out well for her. Not every girl playing club is going to get recruited to the top 10 -20 Div I schools. And I get the feeling you're an M&D parent - I have news for you - not every M&D black girl is going to get recruited to those schools either. Trust me - I've seen it the past couple years.

Maybe my family was shooting for a school that my daughter loves w/ the benefit of playing lacrosse there. She stays in shape - gets playing time (which is more than can be said for some black/blue/green girls going to MD, UNC, Syracuse, Hopkins, etc.) and is getting a good education with a little bit of a lax $$. If you took away the lacrosse and the $3,000 off - she would still want to be at her school . So yeah - it worked out for us.

But the whole point of my original comment was to say that YES - some people who play SW White can play DI. Obviously not all - maybe not alot - but some. And maybe they're not worried about playing DI - there's alot of schools out there. geez !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't endorse Skywalkers - but it worked out well for us. But people on here seem to want to bash them for everything. They offer a white team - people accept and pay the money. Why other people/strangers care and feel the need to comment is beyond me

they comment because its anonymous, they feel better about themselves degrading someone else's SW experience and they are usually just sad lonely people...BTW good for your kid finding the right school for her.

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Back to lacrosse-did anyone watch any 25's last weekend in the rain?

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"Keep drinking that Koolaid"

Well my oldest played SW White and started lacrosse as a 7th grader and she plays low level D1

Top players on A teams in B type brackets do better but if that is all you are shooting for congrats


I don't understand what the comment "all I'm shooting for" means. My daughter decided later than her friends to pick up lacrosse. She was not good enough to make SW blue - but they offered her white - she accepted. She was a decent high school player - not the strongest on her team but a good player. She was able to get recruited on a low level D1 school. Since we're more worried about whether the school was a good fit and less about the lacrosse it worked out well for her. Not every girl playing club is going to get recruited to the top 10 -20 Div I schools. And I get the feeling you're an M&D parent - I have news for you - not every M&D black girl is going to get recruited to those schools either. Trust me - I've seen it the past couple years.

Maybe my family was shooting for a school that my daughter loves w/ the benefit of playing lacrosse there. She stays in shape - gets playing time (which is more than can be said for some black/blue/green girls going to MD, UNC, Syracuse, Hopkins, etc.) and is getting a good education with a little bit of a lax $$. If you took away the lacrosse and the $3,000 off - she would still want to be at her school . So yeah - it worked out for us.

But the whole point of my original comment was to say that YES - some people who play SW White can play DI. Obviously not all - maybe not alot - but some. And maybe they're not worried about playing DI - there's alot of schools out there. geez !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't endorse Skywalkers - but it worked out well for us. But people on here seem to want to bash them for everything. They offer a white team - people accept and pay the money. Why other people/strangers care and feel the need to comment is beyond me


The only benefit that I see being on a team's B team is that you are in the program and if you have aspirations of making their A team in theory you may have an inside track. Though in most cases coaches/parents are recruiting players from other A teams, making for more competition for limited roster spots. The reality is however the A and B teams of a program are essentially 2 different teams that do not practice together and are ran totally separate. You may wear the same uniform, share an occasional practice field or scrimmage but after that they mind as well be 2 different teams. From there you have to look at depth, players 1-12 on a B team may be good and even A quality players that may have been overlooked or chose to play on the B team but the drop off from 13-20 is huge. I'm glad it worked out for your daughter but the reality is that the 2nd team of any club's age group is a money grab (a $40k plus money grab). If you recruited the top girls on each of the B Teams to some of the mid level/emerging clubs you could add 2-3 competitive A teams to this age group.

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Some advice to the 25 age group - the "A" team rosters will change a good bit once in high school particularly at M&D and SW so don't get too comfortable.

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the B team but the drop off from 13-20 is huge. I'm glad it worked out for your daughter but the reality is that the 2nd team of any club's age group is a money grab (a $40k plus money grab). If you recruited the top girls on each of the B Teams to some of the mid level/emerging clubs you could add 2-3 competitive A teams to this age group.


What do you tell girls number 13-20 on the B teams? Sorry you can't play club lacrosse any more, because it's just a "money grab" - just stick to rec.

These LAX Clubs have B teams because there is a demand for them. You may have a newer girl to the sport like the previous poster, or someone developing a little later.

BTW, my daughter is not in the above situation. But someone has defend my 13-20 friends of my daughter.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"Keep drinking that Koolaid"

the B team but the drop off from 13-20 is huge. I'm glad it worked out for your daughter but the reality is that the 2nd team of any club's age group is a money grab (a $40k plus money grab). If you recruited the top girls on each of the B Teams to some of the mid level/emerging clubs you could add 2-3 competitive A teams to this age group.


What do you tell girls number 13-20 on the B teams? Sorry you can't play club lacrosse any more, because it's just a "money grab" - just stick to rec.

These LAX Clubs have B teams because there is a demand for them. You may have a newer girl to the sport like the previous poster, or someone developing a little later.

BTW, my daughter is not in the above situation. But someone has defend my 13-20 friends of my daughter.


The defense for girls 13-20 is to save your money and in most cases playing rec at $175 is better option. Then take the 2k that you saved and put it towards training and development. I will say this, my kids have been playing club a long time and I can't remember 1 time that the coaches went over the fundamentals of catching, throwing or shooting. There just isn't enough time and the expectation is that they can already do this or are working on it outside of practice. They may pull a player aside to tweak something but certainly will not take a whole practice or pull the teams aside to work on that. But I get it. Club sports have taken over. It isn't flashy to say you play for KP, LTRC, Severna Park, Reistersown, Crofton or any other rec program. If it isn't a known club the peer pressure that kids deal with is real and in many instances paying the 2k is the immediate remedy. BUT if you are truly concerned with players 13-20 rec and training is a much better option than club. Not only from a cost perspective but many also play in indoor and fall and summer tournaments at a fraction of the cost. So don't down on rec like its some purgatory, for many kids it is a solid option to develop their skills and have success.

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Well my oldest played SW White and started lacrosse as a 7th grader and she plays low level D1

Top players on A teams in B type brackets do better but if that is all you are shooting for congrats


I don't understand what the comment "all I'm shooting for" means. My daughter decided later than her friends to pick up lacrosse. She was not good enough to make SW blue - but they offered her white - she accepted. She was a decent high school player - not the strongest on her team but a good player. She was able to get recruited on a low level D1 school. Since we're more worried about whether the school was a good fit and less about the lacrosse it worked out well for her. Not every girl playing club is going to get recruited to the top 10 -20 Div I schools. And I get the feeling you're an M&D parent - I have news for you - not every M&D black girl is going to get recruited to those schools either. Trust me - I've seen it the past couple years.

Maybe my family was shooting for a school that my daughter loves w/ the benefit of playing lacrosse there. She stays in shape - gets playing time (which is more than can be said for some black/blue/green girls going to MD, UNC, Syracuse, Hopkins, etc.) and is getting a good education with a little bit of a lax $$. If you took away the lacrosse and the $3,000 off - she would still want to be at her school . So yeah - it worked out for us.

But the whole point of my original comment was to say that YES - some people who play SW White can play DI. Obviously not all - maybe not alot - but some. And maybe they're not worried about playing DI - there's alot of schools out there. geez !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't endorse Skywalkers - but it worked out well for us. But people on here seem to want to bash them for everything. They offer a white team - people accept and pay the money. Why other people/strangers care and feel the need to comment is beyond me


The only benefit that I see being on a team's B team is that you are in the program and if you have aspirations of making their A team in theory you may have an inside track. Though in most cases coaches/parents are recruiting players from other A teams, making for more competition for limited roster spots. The reality is however the A and B teams of a program are essentially 2 different teams that do not practice together and are ran totally separate. You may wear the same uniform, share an occasional practice field or scrimmage but after that they mind as well be 2 different teams. From there you have to look at depth, players 1-12 on a B team may be good and even A quality players that may have been overlooked or chose to play on the B team but the drop off from 13-20 is huge. I'm glad it worked out for your daughter but the reality is that the 2nd team of any club's age group is a money grab (a $40k plus money grab). If you recruited the top girls on each of the B Teams to some of the mid level/emerging clubs you could add 2-3 competitive A teams to this age group.

Totally agree -there are many A teams for midlevel clubs that could become A level teams but the B team money grab keeps them at that level. The sensitive SW parent may not have realized his D could have been a better /more showcased player for a midlevel team and end up at a better school. My D was at a midlevel team where she was the top player and ended in top 20 school. A lot of her friends left and ended up at MDU and Integrity B teams and settled for poor academic schools just to play at low D1 level and D2. Valid discussion of value of B teams.

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the B team but the drop off from 13-20 is huge. I'm glad it worked out for your daughter but the reality is that the 2nd team of any club's age group is a money grab (a $40k plus money grab). If you recruited the top girls on each of the B Teams to some of the mid level/emerging clubs you could add 2-3 competitive A teams to this age group.


What do you tell girls number 13-20 on the B teams? Sorry you can't play club lacrosse any more, because it's just a "money grab" - just stick to rec.

These LAX Clubs have B teams because there is a demand for them. You may have a newer girl to the sport like the previous poster, or someone developing a little later.

BTW, my daughter is not in the above situation. But someone has defend my 13-20 friends of my daughter.


The defense for girls 13-20 is to save your money and in most cases playing rec at $175 is better option. Then take the 2k that you saved and put it towards training and development. I will say this, my kids have been playing club a long time and I can't remember 1 time that the coaches went over the fundamentals of catching, throwing or shooting. There just isn't enough time and the expectation is that they can already do this or are working on it outside of practice. They may pull a player aside to tweak something but certainly will not take a whole practice or pull the teams aside to work on that. But I get it. Club sports have taken over. It isn't flashy to say you play for KP, LTRC, Severna Park, Reistersown, Crofton or any other rec program. If it isn't a known club the peer pressure that kids deal with is real and in many instances paying the 2k is the immediate remedy. BUT if you are truly concerned with players 13-20 rec and training is a much better option than club. Not only from a cost perspective but many also play in indoor and fall and summer tournaments at a fraction of the cost. So don't down on rec like its some purgatory, for many kids it is a solid option to develop their skills and have success.



If the parents want to spend the money on their daughters to play club, I don't see the big deal. I think they can do B team for a few years and then try to make that mid-level A team. I don't disagree with the other things that you mentioned. I just think there should be an option for a girl that wants to play club. Rec and private lessons are great, but the more stick time a player has the better they will become. My daughter does rec, club, and private lessons. I agree about the lack of fundamentals at the club level. First thing done at my daughters private lessons was throwing and catching mechanics.

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The older B teams from YJ, Capital and SW have significantly better talent than most other B teams (certainly MDU and Integrity) and can compete with if not beat most mid-level A teams. These top B teams typically play against one another at G8 level tournaments and the games are intense with lot of college coaches watching. I know Capital has girls from their 2019 B team going to Harvard, UVA, William and Mary, VA Tech, Boston U and numerus NESCAC schools. Further, many of these same B girls are playing with their friends who are also teammates on nationally ranked highs school programs. Perhaps, some parents are "shooting for" an overall good experience with an established club.

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M&D would be the only B team if we had to go that way. I know that will cause over sensitivity but the way things are right now -truth.

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M&D would be the only B team if we had to go that way. I know that will cause over sensitivity but the way things are right now -truth.


I know it was fall ball in the rain, but M&D Red looked awful against the YJ C team a few weeks back. The scores weren't posted, but it may have been a shutout.

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M&D would be the only B team if we had to go that way. I know that will cause over sensitivity but the way things are right now -truth.


M & D Red teams are fairly decent, but lose 90% of the time to YJ, Capital, Heros, and SW. Most of their players end up on D3 teams, not that there is anything wrong with that. No over sensitivity here at all. -truth

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M&D would be the only B team if we had to go that way. I know that will cause over sensitivity but the way things are right now -truth.


M & D Red teams are fairly decent, but lose 90% of the time to YJ, Capital, Heros, and SW. Most of their players end up on D3 teams, not that there is anything wrong with that. No over sensitivity here at all. -truth

Calling BS on this

For fun was looking on commitments site 2019s and M&D and YJ equal D1 and a few D2 and D3. Followed by Heroes then SW and everyone else. Capital orange teams have been downward trend for a while. You must be living in the past .

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The commitment lists on the websites of Heroes and SW are woefully incomplete since 2019...many players not listed are freshman on teams at legit schools this year. YJ, M&D and TLC do a much better job of updating commitment information including their verbal commits of the 2021 class.

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M&D would be the only B team if we had to go that way. I know that will cause over sensitivity but the way things are right now -truth.


I know it was fall ball in the rain, but M&D Red looked awful against the YJ C team a few weeks back. The scores weren't posted, but it may have been a shutout.

Yep, Red lost 1-7. As with all of the teams in the fall there are many players out for soccer and other sports. I'm sure Janelli had some out too. YJ B-team (Janelli) is the team that was played. Janelli played much better in the rain and the size of the Janelli girls made the difference vs Red's speed. Red forgot how to pass and catch and Janelli was aggressive going to the goal. No doubts, Janelli was the better team that day. MnD Red Dad.

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7:45 game Hagerstown Saturday -high temps 50's-yikes

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7:45 game Hagerstown Saturday -high temps 50's-yikes


7:45 has temps at 32 degrees on Saturday. The first freeze of the year is always the toughest as young kids haven't become accustomed to it yet.

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M&D would be the only B team if we had to go that way. I know that will cause over sensitivity but the way things are right now -truth.


M & D Red teams are fairly decent, but lose 90% of the time to YJ, Capital, Heros, and SW. Most of their players end up on D3 teams, not that there is anything wrong with that. No over sensitivity here at all. -truth

Calling BS on this

For fun was looking on commitments site 2019s and M&D and YJ equal D1 and a few D2 and D3. Followed by Heroes then SW and everyone else. Capital orange teams have been downward trend for a while. You must be living in the past .



All the recruits listed on M and D 2019's are Black players. I know for a fact most Red go D2 or D3. There are a few that go D1. As for the 90%, I was speaking about the HS age girls. Younger M and D red teams are better and I realize this is a 2025 age group string, however when SW players get older, the better coaching catches up and surpasses M and D's red teams. On all the organizations listed above.

If by calling "BS" does that stand for "Believable Stance"?

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Fake news LOL obvious SW parent

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MD teams about to get a wooping next weekend...YJs coming to town!

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MD teams about to get a wooping next weekend...YJs coming to town!


Awesome. MD loves receiving the extra money from out-of-state teams.

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MD teams about to get a wooping next weekend...YJs coming to town!

There goes the neighborhood

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7:45 game Hagerstown Saturday -high temps 50's-yikes


7:45 has temps at 32 degrees on Saturday. The first freeze of the year is always the toughest as young kids haven't become accustomed to it yet.


Worst run tourney ever-no lights or event staff -frost on overgrown grass fields, not enough bathroom facilities(portapots). Refs were obviously just training as well-hope this one gets replaced with turf field complex.

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MD teams about to get a wooping next weekend...YJs coming to town!


Awesome. MD loves receiving the extra money from out-of-state teams.


And we love coming there to Smash some Crab! Hopefully you guys won’t whine and complain too much when you lose! #strongisland

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2 weeks ago M&D Black shutout YellowJackets 11-0. Thanks for coming. See you in 2 weeks and thanks for bringing the tatted up cow of a wife as well

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2 weeks ago M&D Black shutout YellowJackets 11-0. Thanks for coming. See you in 2 weeks and thanks for bringing the tatted up cow of a wife as well

Also there is not a w in the word ball.

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MD teams about to get a wooping next weekend...YJs coming to town!


Awesome. MD loves receiving the extra money from out-of-state teams.


And we love coming there to Smash some Crab! Hopefully you guys won’t whine and complain too much when you lose! #strongisland


Sounds fantastic! Appreciate you giving us advanced notice of our impending doom. We will work really hard to be more competitive so you don't waste your time driving down. Looking forward to seeing you all.

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MD teams about to get a wooping next weekend...YJs coming to town!


Awesome. MD loves receiving the extra money from out-of-state teams.


And we love coming there to Smash some Crab! Hopefully you guys won’t whine and complain too much when you lose! #strongisland


YJ Lomo parents are garbage.

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LOL. 11-0 loss last time we met and you are trash talking. Just like a LI dad.

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7:45 game Hagerstown Saturday -high temps 50's-yikes


7:45 has temps at 32 degrees on Saturday. The first freeze of the year is always the toughest as young kids haven't become accustomed to it yet.


Worst run tourney ever-no lights or event staff -frost on overgrown grass fields, not enough bathroom facilities(portapots). Refs were obviously just training as well-hope this one gets replaced with turf field complex.


I agree. Was at Hagerstown Soccerplex this weekend too and this event has gone down Hill from where it was a few years ago. Refs didn't get the memo that free movement only applied to high school, so games were chaos as those teams that read the rules and followed them were disadvantaged. Also, hope those waivers hold up for the organizers for those girls injured playing on icy grass at 7:45 am. And only 1 slow food truck for the entire event with a 30-60 minute line?

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7:45 game Hagerstown Saturday -high temps 50's-yikes


7:45 has temps at 32 degrees on Saturday. The first freeze of the year is always the toughest as young kids haven't become accustomed to it yet.


Worst run tourney ever-no lights or event staff -frost on overgrown grass fields, not enough bathroom facilities(portapots). Refs were obviously just training as well-hope this one gets replaced with turf field complex.


I agree. Was at Hagerstown Soccerplex this weekend too and this event has gone down Hill from where it was a few years ago. Refs didn't get the memo that free movement only applied to high school, so games were chaos as those teams that read the rules and followed them were disadvantaged. Also, hope those waivers hold up for the organizers for those girls injured playing on icy grass at 7:45 am. And only 1 slow food truck for the entire event with a 30-60 minute line?



Yes. terrible. 1 food truck that was slow, I didn't even bother waiting on that ridiculous line. Also don't forget the icy wood walkway over the stream. I personally saw 3 people fall before they closed it down. Hope they had a good lawyer draft those waivers, next time they might have to have the parents sign them too.

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MD teams about to get a wooping next weekend...YJs coming to town!


Are they?

Seems like the YJ 25s hid out in Jersey this weekend playing no one and fearing the crab.

Looks like 91 & TG are the only LIDs making the trip.

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YJs can’t compete down here on their own. We enjoy taking your dollars, making you drive home losers, while our fields get a healthy sprinkling of Trash Island tears from your daughters.

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YJs can’t compete down here on their own. We enjoy taking your dollars, making you drive home losers, while our fields get a healthy sprinkling of Trash Island tears from your daughters.


Don't kid yourself, CR is clearly filing a filing a State of MD tax return and taking everyone's money.

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YJs can’t compete down here on their own. We enjoy taking your dollars, making you drive home losers, while our fields get a healthy sprinkling of Trash Island tears from your daughters.


Don't kid yourself, CR is clearly filing a filing a State of MD tax return and taking everyone's money.

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YJs can’t compete down here on their own. We enjoy taking your dollars, making you drive home losers, while our fields get a healthy sprinkling of Trash Island tears from your daughters.


I’m sure you won’t be talking this trash when Spallina’s team comes to town and whips your daughters team like they do Every time! Try not whine to cry to much. . And I’ll be sure to hand you my bag of garbage on the way out. You’ll know what to do with it right?

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YJs can’t compete down here on their own. We enjoy taking your dollars, making you drive home losers, while our fields get a healthy sprinkling of Trash Island tears from your daughters.


Don't kid yourself, CR is clearly filing a filing a State of MD tax return and taking everyone's money.

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YJs can’t compete down here on their own. We enjoy taking your dollars, making you drive home losers, while our fields get a healthy sprinkling of Trash Island tears from your daughters.


I’m sure you won’t be talking this trash when Spallina’s team comes to town and whips your daughters team like they do Every time! Try not whine to cry to much. . And I’ll be sure to hand you my bag of garbage on the way out. You’ll know what to do with it right?


That is truly appreciated. We always like when our guests clean up after themselves. We wish your daughters well.

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YJs can’t compete down here on their own. We enjoy taking your dollars, making you drive home losers, while our fields get a healthy sprinkling of Trash Island tears from your daughters.

You are just a sad and awful adult. I hope your child has better manners than you do. You're embarrassing to ALL MD programs. Get help.

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To change the subject and put the focus back on the field, how did teams look at the play days this past weekend? Any surprises??

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No one below the Mason Dixon line talks trash like that except maybe rust-belters. Stop trolling.

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To change the subject and put the focus back on the field, how did teams look at the play days this past weekend? Any surprises??

Tough to gauge with 2 bad tourneys over weekend. Laxin out Loud not many quality teams and Natl FallFest had horrible fields and refs. Midatlantic in the cold temps this weekend should have better competition.

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It seems Pride is the team to watch out for. Knocked M&D out of the playoffs and kept a close game with Heros for the Mid Atlantic Championship

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It seems Pride is the team to watch out for. Knocked M&D out of the playoffs and kept a close game with Heros for the Mid Atlantic Championship

A lot of one goal games also. I didnt see the Sunday games just hear say but sounds like some good level competition. when refs/fields/fall temps and 7th graders involved -anything can happen. I guess the M&D dominance has been slowly decreasing.

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It seems Pride is the team to watch out for. Knocked M&D out of the playoffs and kept a close game with Heros for the Mid Atlantic Championship

Yes, to a Pride parent it would seem so.

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It seems Pride is the team to watch out for. Knocked M&D out of the playoffs and kept a close game with Heros for the Mid Atlantic Championship

Yes, to a Pride parent it would seem so.


Oh Lord - here comes the M&D parent on the defensive. Why is Pride not a team to watch out for ?? They just beat M&D and had a close Hero's game. Doesn't that make them a team to look out for ?? Doesn't mean they're the best or would win every time. But - YES - they should be noticed. I'm waiting for the M&D excuses of "missing soccer players", "fall ball everyone plays equal", "new positions", etc.

Why can't we just be glad all the teams are getting better and lacrosse is spreading and stop snarking at anything that is not your M&D team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give credit where credit is due

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It seems Pride is the team to watch out for. Knocked M&D out of the playoffs and kept a close game with Heros for the Mid Atlantic Championship

Yes, to a Pride parent it would seem so.


Oh Lord - here comes the M&D parent on the defensive. Why is Pride not a team to watch out for ?? They just beat M&D and had a close Hero's game. Doesn't that make them a team to look out for ?? Doesn't mean they're the best or would win every time. But - YES - they should be noticed. I'm waiting for the M&D excuses of "missing soccer players", "fall ball everyone plays equal", "new positions", etc.

Why can't we just be glad all the teams are getting better and lacrosse is spreading and stop snarking at anything that is not your M&D team !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give credit where credit is due

How do you know its an MnD parent? I mean you lost to Hero's maybe they weren't that impressed. Last time I checked they were the "Queens of the Cage" for md.

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Can someone explain why Robinson puts his team in a weaker division (avoiding Sky Walkers, Hero's, and Monster) and then only M&D's division had 2 teams that advanced? Also, the 2 teams from M&D's division got a bye as well. I respect M&D and think the kids play amazing, but I don't agree with how Robinson protects his own teams. He did the same thing in the 2024 division. We're all paying a lot of money and traveling to play at his tournament and he gives his own teams an unfair advantage for advancing.

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M & Ds dominance is definitely decreasing. They either win games by a lot or buckle under pressure. Happened all last season and now again this fall

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"How do you know its an MnD parent? I mean you lost to Hero's maybe they weren't that impressed. Last time I checked they were the "Queens of the Cage" for md."

When you say "you lost to HEros they weren't impressed - who are you refering to when you say "you lost".
I am not a pride parent. I'm local to Baltimore. And I am willing to bet it was an M&D parent who wrote that pride is not a team to watch though.

And I don't even know what "queen of the cage" is

It's crazy to me that on these boards no one/no teams can be given credit where credit is due. It's nuts

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Can someone explain why Robinson puts his team in a weaker division (avoiding Sky Walkers, Hero's, and Monster) and then only M&D's division had 2 teams that advanced? Also, the 2 teams from M&D's division got a bye as well. I respect M&D and think the kids play amazing, but I don't agree with how Robinson protects his own teams. He did the same thing in the 2024 division. We're all paying a lot of money and traveling to play at his tournament and he gives his own teams an unfair advantage for advancing.

As an MnD parent I think you know the reason why this is done. I don't agree with it as I would like to see our team play at least 1 tough team in pool play. They get nothing out of beating a team by 15 goals except bad habits.

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Salt City is better than SkyWalkers and Monster, and took down Heros over the summer... also, i think the hope was LI Top Guns would be in that conversation, too... didnt work out that way, but it was still the strongest division... and, yes, look out for Pride going forward

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
"How do you know its an MnD parent? I mean you lost to Hero's maybe they weren't that impressed. Last time I checked they were the "Queens of the Cage" for md."

When you say "you lost to HEros they weren't impressed - who are you refering to when you say "you lost".
I am not a pride parent. I'm local to Baltimore. And I am willing to bet it was an M&D parent who wrote that pride is not a team to watch though.

And I don't even know what "queen of the cage" is

It's crazy to me that on these boards no one/no teams can be given credit where credit is due. It's nuts

Queen of the Cage = Reigning champs. Did I i dense it down enough for you? As for "You Lost", I was assuming it was a Pride parent that left the message. Just like you assumed an MnD parent left a response to the original thread. At the end of the day who cares who left the message on an anonymous board.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Salt City is better than SkyWalkers and Monster, and took down Heros over the summer... also, i think the hope was LI Top Guns would be in that conversation, too... didnt work out that way, but it was still the strongest division... and, yes, look out for Pride going forward



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1. Hero's 9 Salt City 1
2. Hero's 5 SW's 4
3. Hero's 8 PT 5
4. Hero's 11 Monster 4
5. Hero's 5 CC Lax 4
6. Hero's 5 Pride 4
7. Hero's 7 BBL 2

Sure looks like Salt City performed the worse against Hero's. Salt City barely beat BBL North.

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Divisions look to be balanced so they don’t know each other out in pool play. Besides , Heros Skywalkers and M&D see each other about 8-10 times in a club season. As for the 24’s. Looks like 2 teams in same divison made the final and Monster is good too. No protecting there. Skywalkers and Heros can’t say they are better if than Pride or any others if they can’t beat them and win. I think most teams feel they a tourney director benefits his/ her club. Looks at Steps divisons always. Never a good team in their bracket.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Salt City is better than SkyWalkers and Monster, and took down Heros over the summer... also, i think the hope was LI Top Guns would be in that conversation, too... didnt work out that way, but it was still the strongest division... and, yes, look out for Pride going forward

CC Lax also looked impressive. Only lost to Pride 7-6 after leading a good portion of the game. Beat Hero's Green and MD United the weekend before at Laxin Out Loud.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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"How do you know its an MnD parent? I mean you lost to Hero's maybe they weren't that impressed. Last time I checked they were the "Queens of the Cage" for md."

When you say "you lost to HEros they weren't impressed - who are you refering to when you say "you lost".
I am not a pride parent. I'm local to Baltimore. And I am willing to bet it was an M&D parent who wrote that pride is not a team to watch though.

And I don't even know what "queen of the cage" is

It's crazy to me that on these boards no one/no teams can be given credit where credit is due. It's nuts

Queen of the Cage = Reigning champs. Did I i dense it down enough for you? As for "You Lost", I was assuming it was a Pride parent that left the message. Just like you assumed an MnD parent left a response to the original thread. At the end of the day who cares who left the message on an anonymous board.



But you are an M&D parent. And no one would care on message boards except M&D parents trash anything that does not involve their teams. Oh - and call people dense.

When other teams are good it does not diminish M&D. It's ok for all of these teams to be good.

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Mid-Atlantic was some good competition, it was nice to see the big guns being challenged. Pride played well against M&D and had Heros on the rope. Cavs LAX took Heros to sudden death also. NGLL will be fun in the spring.

Heros, M&D, Pride, CC Lax, Cav LAX, Skywalkers, MD United.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Mid-Atlantic was some good competition, it was nice to see the big guns being challenged. Pride played well against M&D and had Heros on the rope. Cavs LAX took Heros to sudden death also. NGLL will be fun in the spring.

Heros, M&D, Pride, CC Lax, Cav LAX, Skywalkers, MD United.

I would put LBC and MD United in the next tier down. Also not sold on CClax yet too much dependence on a few standouts

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Salt City is better than SkyWalkers and Monster, and took down Heros over the summer... also, i think the hope was LI Top Guns would be in that conversation, too... didnt work out that way, but it was still the strongest division... and, yes, look out for Pride going forward



At MidAtlantic:
1. Hero's 9 Salt City 1
2. Hero's 5 SW's 4
3. Hero's 8 PT 5
4. Hero's 11 Monster 4
5. Hero's 5 CC Lax 4
6. Hero's 5 Pride 4
7. Hero's 7 BBL 2

Sure looks like Salt City performed the worse against Hero's. Salt City barely beat BBL North.

Salt City parents a little over zealous with the self pat on the back claiming to be better than Sky Walkers and Monster.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Salt City is better than SkyWalkers and Monster, and took down Heros over the summer... also, i think the hope was LI Top Guns would be in that conversation, too... didnt work out that way, but it was still the strongest division... and, yes, look out for Pride going forward



At MidAtlantic:
1. Hero's 9 Salt City 1
2. Hero's 5 SW's 4
3. Hero's 8 PT 5
4. Hero's 11 Monster 4
5. Hero's 5 CC Lax 4
6. Hero's 5 Pride 4
7. Hero's 7 BBL 2

Sure looks like Salt City performed the worse against Hero's. Salt City barely beat BBL North.

Salt City parents a little over zealous with the self pat on the back claiming to be better than Sky Walkers and Monster.

I heard they play a less than clean style of lacrosse as well.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Salt City is better than SkyWalkers and Monster, and took down Heros over the summer... also, i think the hope was LI Top Guns would be in that conversation, too... didnt work out that way, but it was still the strongest division... and, yes, look out for Pride going forward



At MidAtlantic:
1. Hero's 9 Salt City 1
2. Hero's 5 SW's 4
3. Hero's 8 PT 5
4. Hero's 11 Monster 4
5. Hero's 5 CC Lax 4
6. Hero's 5 Pride 4
7. Hero's 7 BBL 2

Sure looks like Salt City performed the worse against Hero's. Salt City barely beat BBL North.

Salt City parents a little over zealous with the self pat on the back claiming to be better than Sky Walkers and Monster.

I heard they play a less than clean style of lacrosse as well.


Just like the LIDs

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Salt City is better than SkyWalkers and Monster, and took down Heros over the summer... also, i think the hope was LI Top Guns would be in that conversation, too... didnt work out that way, but it was still the strongest division... and, yes, look out for Pride going forward



At MidAtlantic:
1. Hero's 9 Salt City 1
2. Hero's 5 SW's 4
3. Hero's 8 PT 5
4. Hero's 11 Monster 4
5. Hero's 5 CC Lax 4
6. Hero's 5 Pride 4
7. Hero's 7 BBL 2

Sure looks like Salt City performed the worse against Hero's. Salt City barely beat BBL North.

Salt City parents a little over zealous with the self pat on the back claiming to be better than Sky Walkers and Monster.

I heard they play a less than clean style of lacrosse as well.


Just like the LIDs

First of all you are such a nerd you can't even get that right. So loosen you sons vineyard vine shorts up
It's FLIDS you stunad

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Salt City is better than SkyWalkers and Monster, and took down Heros over the summer... also, i think the hope was LI Top Guns would be in that conversation, too... didnt work out that way, but it was still the strongest division... and, yes, look out for Pride going forward



At MidAtlantic:
1. Hero's 9 Salt City 1
2. Hero's 5 SW's 4
3. Hero's 8 PT 5
4. Hero's 11 Monster 4
5. Hero's 5 CC Lax 4
6. Hero's 5 Pride 4
7. Hero's 7 BBL 2

Sure looks like Salt City performed the worse against Hero's. Salt City barely beat BBL North.

Salt City parents a little over zealous with the self pat on the back claiming to be better than Sky Walkers and Monster.

I heard they play a less than clean style of lacrosse as well.


Just like the LIDs

First of all you are such a nerd you can't even get that right. So loosen you sons vineyard vine shorts up
It's FLIDS you stunad


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Whats going on at Hero's? Rough weeekend for the Big Green? watchout for Pride!!

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Whats going on at Hero's? Rough weeekend for the Big Green? watchout for Pride!!

Just stop Pride dad. It’s fall ball. You are embarrassing yourself.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Salt City is better than SkyWalkers and Monster, and took down Heros over the summer... also, i think the hope was LI Top Guns would be in that conversation, too... didnt work out that way, but it was still the strongest division... and, yes, look out for Pride going forward



At MidAtlantic:
1. Hero's 9 Salt City 1
2. Hero's 5 SW's 4
3. Hero's 8 PT 5
4. Hero's 11 Monster 4
5. Hero's 5 CC Lax 4
6. Hero's 5 Pride 4
7. Hero's 7 BBL 2

Sure looks like Salt City performed the worse against Hero's. Salt City barely beat BBL North.

Salt City parents a little over zealous with the self pat on the back claiming to be better than Sky Walkers and Monster.

I heard they play a less than clean style of lacrosse as well.


They are pretty dirty, but not that clever to finish the deal against better competition. Their parents are a "class act", you have to hear them analyzing the other players after every play. Quite salty.

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Salt City parents a little over zealous with the self pat on the back claiming to be better than Sky Walkers and Monster. [/quote]
I heard they play a less than clean style of lacrosse as well. [/quote]

They are pretty dirty, but not that clever to finish the deal against better competition. Their parents are a "class act", you have to hear them analyzing the other players after every play. Quite salty.[/quote]

Well at least their parents aren't on the sidelines screaming and coming within an inch of a physical confrontation like MD team(s) parents. So let's watch the insult slinging at parents

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Just for fun/debate, fall rankings:


1. Hero's- Cannot argue their record in championship games last year. Can they duplicate this fall?
2. M&D- On paper one of the most talented teams in the country. Can they win the big games?
3. NEMS- Good core group of talent. Gave some teams some trouble. Can the get over the hump?
4. Skywalkers- A decent team with some athletes. Did they players they added fill in the holes?
5. LBC- Always a tough team. Can they replace key players lost?
6. Pride- Narrowly missed the playoffs last year. Did they add depth to get them in the final 4.
7. Stars- Like Pride missed the playoffs by 2 games. Did they recruit will in the off season?
8. MD United- Did they lock down the talent in AA Co? will the added players get them out of the cellar?
9. Red Shirts- Moving back to B is not a bad option.
10. FCA- Too bad Calvert Hall is a boys school but luckily they will get to play TLC or MC Midnight
11. TLC/MC Midnight- Hopefully they added some talent to put some points on the board. Last year their combined goals between the 2 teams was less than 11 of the 14 teams in the league.

Fall Wrap up Ranking

1. Hero's- Had an inconsistent fall but they are the defending champs until someone beats them. They also do well it championship games.
2. M&D- Could be number 1 but still a bit inconsistent until the end where based on the scores they put it together.
3. Pride- Beat Both M&D and Hero's this fall. Improved team and on the rise.
4. Skywalkers- Another inconsistent team that plays tough. Not sure they have enough firepower to take down more talented teams.
5. LBC- They didn't play in many of the tournaments over the bridge but always a tough team. Given where they are located they should have no issue pulling talent.
6. Nems- A good team that has been able to keep their core together.
7. MD United- Quietly knocked off Hero's. So the potential is there.
8. CC Lax- Also beat Hero's and may have added a few players from neighboring clubs. Though his is a big jump from B to A.
9. Hoco- Cupboard isnt totally bare but they have enough athletes to keep games somewhat interesting.
10. Red Shirts- Still not enough talent there to compete at this level.
11. Coppermine- Lost a lot of girls. Too many to compete in the A.
12. FCA- Not sure where they played this fall or if they are staying in A.
13/14. TLC/MC Mid NIght- May be more competitive in the B conference.

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Salt City parents a little over zealous with the self pat on the back claiming to be better than Sky Walkers and Monster.

I heard they play a less than clean style of lacrosse as well. [/quote]

They are pretty dirty, but not that clever to finish the deal against better competition. Their parents are a "class act", you have to hear them analyzing the other players after every play. Quite salty.[/quote]

Well at least their parents aren't on the sidelines screaming and coming within an inch of a physical confrontation like MD team(s) parents. So let's watch the insult slinging at parents
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I cant say Ive seen that, but lets face it, A LOT of parents could dial it back a tad, sport wide. Its one thing to cheer your kid on, its another to come to blows or to analyze every opposing player like youre on sports center.

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Just for fun/debate, fall rankings:

May need to move CC Lax up a couple of spots in your fall rankings... also beat MD United and LBC.... lost to Pride by 1... added a few pieces but mostly the same core group.

1. Hero's- Cannot argue their record in championship games last year. Can they duplicate this fall?
2. M&D- On paper one of the most talented teams in the country. Can they win the big games?
3. NEMS- Good core group of talent. Gave some teams some trouble. Can the get over the hump?
4. Skywalkers- A decent team with some athletes. Did they players they added fill in the holes?
5. LBC- Always a tough team. Can they replace key players lost?
6. Pride- Narrowly missed the playoffs last year. Did they add depth to get them in the final 4.
7. Stars- Like Pride missed the playoffs by 2 games. Did they recruit will in the off season?
8. MD United- Did they lock down the talent in AA Co? will the added players get them out of the cellar?
9. Red Shirts- Moving back to B is not a bad option.
10. FCA- Too bad Calvert Hall is a boys school but luckily they will get to play TLC or MC Midnight
11. TLC/MC Midnight- Hopefully they added some talent to put some points on the board. Last year their combined goals between the 2 teams was less than 11 of the 14 teams in the league.

Fall Wrap up Ranking

1. Hero's- Had an inconsistent fall but they are the defending champs until someone beats them. They also do well it championship games.
2. M&D- Could be number 1 but still a bit inconsistent until the end where based on the scores they put it together.
3. Pride- Beat Both M&D and Hero's this fall. Improved team and on the rise.
4. Skywalkers- Another inconsistent team that plays tough. Not sure they have enough firepower to take down more talented teams.
5. LBC- They didn't play in many of the tournaments over the bridge but always a tough team. Given where they are located they should have no issue pulling talent.
6. Nems- A good team that has been able to keep their core together.
7. MD United- Quietly knocked off Hero's. So the potential is there.
8. CC Lax- Also beat Hero's and may have added a few players from neighboring clubs. Though his is a big jump from B to A.
9. Hoco- Cupboard isnt totally bare but they have enough athletes to keep games somewhat interesting.
10. Red Shirts- Still not enough talent there to compete at this level.
11. Coppermine- Lost a lot of girls. Too many to compete in the A.
12. FCA- Not sure where they played this fall or if they are staying in A.
13/14. TLC/MC Mid NIght- May be more competitive in the B conference.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Just for fun/debate, fall rankings:


1. Hero's- Cannot argue their record in championship games last year. Can they duplicate this fall?
2. M&D- On paper one of the most talented teams in the country. Can they win the big games?
3. NEMS- Good core group of talent. Gave some teams some trouble. Can the get over the hump?
4. Skywalkers- A decent team with some athletes. Did they players they added fill in the holes?
5. LBC- Always a tough team. Can they replace key players lost?
6. Pride- Narrowly missed the playoffs last year. Did they add depth to get them in the final 4.
7. Stars- Like Pride missed the playoffs by 2 games. Did they recruit will in the off season?
8. MD United- Did they lock down the talent in AA Co? will the added players get them out of the cellar?
9. Red Shirts- Moving back to B is not a bad option.
10. FCA- Too bad Calvert Hall is a boys school but luckily they will get to play TLC or MC Midnight
11. TLC/MC Midnight- Hopefully they added some talent to put some points on the board. Last year their combined goals between the 2 teams was less than 11 of the 14 teams in the league.

Fall Wrap up Ranking

1. Hero's- Had an inconsistent fall but they are the defending champs until someone beats them. They also do well it championship games.
2. M&D- Could be number 1 but still a bit inconsistent until the end where based on the scores they put it together.
3. Pride- Beat Both M&D and Hero's this fall. Improved team and on the rise.
4. Skywalkers- Another inconsistent team that plays tough. Not sure they have enough firepower to take down more talented teams.
5. LBC- They didn't play in many of the tournaments over the bridge but always a tough team. Given where they are located they should have no issue pulling talent.
6. Nems- A good team that has been able to keep their core together.
7. MD United- Quietly knocked off Hero's. So the potential is there.
8. CC Lax- Also beat Hero's and may have added a few players from neighboring clubs. Though his is a big jump from B to A.
9. Hoco- Cupboard isnt totally bare but they have enough athletes to keep games somewhat interesting.
10. Red Shirts- Still not enough talent there to compete at this level.
11. Coppermine- Lost a lot of girls. Too many to compete in the A.
12. FCA- Not sure where they played this fall or if they are staying in A.
13/14. TLC/MC Mid NIght- May be more competitive in the B conference.


CC Lax could be moved up a couple of spots in your Final Fall Rankings... also beat MD United and LBC... only lost to Pride by 1.... they added a couple of new girls but for the most part they are the same.

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CClax is a one girl show -eventually they will just faceguard her . I feel bad for anyone else that wants to get recruited on that team.

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Here is my AMEN. good coaches get talent to play together. IMO, Skywalkers collect talent and let them freelance. I don’t see much coaching from the Mike and Molly group.

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Obviously you have never been to their practices. First off their goalie coach is phenomenal, secondly their transition and interior passing is legit, and lastly dodging is quick and fast. Do they run a lot of set plays? No. Do their teams run lots of motion and move the ball quickly? Yes. Their philosophy is to play with freedom, which means to create space and move to space. It’s no wonder their players are sought after by top programs.

Do their younger teams sometimes struggle? Yes. Skywalkers takes athletic girls and coaches them up so by the time they get to 7th/8th grade, their teams dominate many teams, not all of course. Gotta give credit to the other great organizations.

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Pride moves up to number 3 in the rankings and MnD drops to 4.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pride moves up to number 3 in the rankings and MnD drops to 4.

Did your post make you feel good?
Happy holidays to you, too.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Pride moves up to number 3 in the rankings and MnD drops to 4.

Lordy - Don't wake the M&D defenders. You can't ever say anything bad about M&D cause they're parents go nuts

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Pride moves up to number 3 in the rankings and MnD drops to 4.

Lordy - Don't wake the M&D defenders. You can't ever say anything bad about M&D cause they're parents go nuts


Must be time to move to another team.

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Re: Girls 2025 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #297740
12/19/19 08:17 AM
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Ranking mean nothing. Especially when lots in the top 20 ever win when all the good teams at same place. Look at lax for cure and mid Atlantic when the good teams play. All the rest are just playdays.

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The whole idea is that the girls get showcased to the college coaches eventually . If you are not an impact player on a great team you will be going to a garbage school. Find a place you shine.

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Lordy - Don't wake the M&D defenders. You can't ever say anything bad about M&D cause they're parents go nuts[/quote]

Must be time to move to another team.[/quote]

See .... point proven

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The whole idea is that the girls get showcased to the college coaches eventually . If you are not an impact player on a great team you will be going to a garbage school. Find a place you shine.

That is it exactly

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The whole idea is that the girls get showcased to the college coaches eventually . If you are not an impact player on a great team you will be going to a garbage school. Find a place you shine.


I don't think every player has the desire to go play for a top D1 school. Some have academics as there most important college criteria. Meaning that if they can play for a top academic school (whether it's D1,D2, or D3) that is their objective. If you don't have the grades, you don't have a chance.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The whole idea is that the girls get showcased to the college coaches eventually . If you are not an impact player on a great team you will be going to a garbage school. Find a place you shine.


I don't think every player has the desire to go play for a top D1 school. Some have academics as there most important college criteria. Meaning that if they can play for a top academic school (whether it's D1,D2, or D3) that is their objective. If you don't have the grades, you don't have a chance.

Agreed -there are many D3 schools better academically than D1 and give merit aide for 4 years.

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The whole idea is that the girls get showcased to the college coaches eventually . If you are not an impact player on a great team you will be going to a garbage school. Find a place you shine.

I will agree but add that you need to be an impact player on whatever team you are on to be noticed by coaches. D1 and D2 give schollys so they are looking for the better girls. D3 still takes the best they can find first. So many parents think their mediocre lax D will be coveted by coaches -they are in for a rude awakening. Prents also think that lower D1 schools have horrible talent-also not true. They grab a few lower talent girls to fill roster but those girls never see the field.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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The whole idea is that the girls get showcased to the college coaches eventually . If you are not an impact player on a great team you will be going to a garbage school. Find a place you shine.

I will agree but add that you need to be an impact player on whatever team you are on to be noticed by coaches. D1 and D2 give schollys so they are looking for the better girls. D3 still takes the best they can find first. So many parents think their mediocre lax D will be coveted by coaches -they are in for a rude awakening. Prents also think that lower D1 schools have horrible talent-also not true. They grab a few lower talent girls to fill roster but those girls never see the field.

I agree -My D switched from A team where she was stuck at low attack retrieving missed shots mostly. She went to another club and played middie and was recruited aggressively even at a club that didnt win many Championships. She is happy at her very good academic college. We are trying to do the same with her sister now.

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Looks like Hero's got the best of M&D again this weekend

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Its indoor lacrosse clown, and i'm assuming that most teams did not have full rosters playing due to other commitments, Basketball, field hockey, vacation, etc.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Looks like Hero's got the best of M&D again this weekend



M&D were missing many key players and speaking of getting the best how did the YJ game go. OH My what a blowout I think Spallina's kid is still scoring goals. Enjoy it now because at full strength its M&D by a landslide

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Just curious as an outside “BOC” stalker, how was the officiating?

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M&D has their kids playing all winter so no excuses. It is pathetic to fight about indoor lax though. I feel bad for the kids that don't get a chance to play multiple sports due to the psycho M&D rules.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
M&D has their kids playing all winter so no excuses. It is pathetic to fight about indoor lax though. I feel bad for the kids that don't get a chance to play multiple sports due to the psycho M&D rules.


What "psycho M&D rules" are you referring to? A majority of the players are multi sport athletes and several missed this weekends tourney because of another sport conflict. Also, get your facts straight, the team doesn't do anymore tourneys than any other club. Ultimately, thanks for your concern for the kids but rest assured, they're thriving and doing well

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M&D has their kids playing all winter so no excuses. It is pathetic to fight about indoor lax though. I feel bad for the kids that don't get a chance to play multiple sports due to the psycho M&D rules.


What "psycho M&D rules" are you referring to? A majority of the players are multi sport athletes and several missed this weekends tourney because of another sport conflict. Also, get your facts straight, the team doesn't do anymore tourneys than any other club. Ultimately, thanks for your concern for the kids but rest assured, they're thriving and doing well

We have a few M&D girls on our team that always miss games and practices due to lacrosse obligations in the winter so calling BS on M&D dad.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Looks like Hero's got the best of M&D again this weekend



M&D were missing many key players and speaking of getting the best how did the YJ game go. OH My what a blowout I think Spallina's kid is still scoring goals. Enjoy it now because at full strength its M&D by a landslide



I think we're in for some good lacrosse this summer. The YJ team is great, but if you watched the game, the Heros team really pulled it together in the second half. Too bad there was not enough time on the clock. After playing together all spring and summer Heros, M&D and YJ are all going to be a lot of fun to watch compete against one another.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Looks like Hero's got the best of M&D again this weekend



M&D were missing many key players and speaking of getting the best how did the YJ game go. OH My what a blowout I think Spallina's kid is still scoring goals. Enjoy it now because at full strength its M&D by a landslide


So.... M&D was the only team without their full roster ?? Always excuses. Their best player being out of middfield hurts - but I'm sure other teams had girls playing other sports too. i know Heros did

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M&D encourages kids to play multiple sports. Anybody that says otherwise is misinformed.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
M&D has their kids playing all winter so no excuses. It is pathetic to fight about indoor lax though. I feel bad for the kids that don't get a chance to play multiple sports due to the psycho M&D rules.


I see girls from Hero's and MnD every week at other sporting events (basketball, soccer, fh, etc...). I can't speak for Hero's but MnD encourages girls to play multiple sports during the off season but during the spring and summer lacrosse should be the focus. It's safe to say that both teams were missing players and I can probably bet YJ was missing a few also. If your 2-3 ringers played this weekend your team probably had an advantage. if not you were at a disadvantage. So any "who beat who" is moot. Its the spring and summer games that count.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Looks like Hero's got the best of M&D again this weekend



M&D were missing many key players and speaking of getting the best how did the YJ game go. OH My what a blowout I think Spallina's kid is still scoring goals. Enjoy it now because at full strength its M&D by a landslide



I think we're in for some good lacrosse this summer. The YJ team is great, but if you watched the game, the Heros team really pulled it together in the second half. Too bad there was not enough time on the clock. After playing together all spring and summer Heros, M&D and YJ are all going to be a lot of fun to watch compete against one another.


heros had a great tournament til they ran into the YJ team. I did stay for the final or at least most of it and it was ugly YJ was up 10 plus most of the game and at one point 15 goals ( when we left) sounds like heros scored a few late but still lost by close to 10 . As far as time on the clock you lost by a large margin. Think these three teams are clearly the best I would say YJ is by far and away the best Then M&D and Heros a very distant 2 or 3 depending on the day. The big questions are who is after the top three. Skywalkers, Grizzlies, Primetime, Pride, LBC, Eagle sticks Salt C, Monsters

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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M&D has their kids playing all winter so no excuses. It is pathetic to fight about indoor lax though. I feel bad for the kids that don't get a chance to play multiple sports due to the psycho M&D rules.


I see girls from Hero's and MnD every week at other sporting events (basketball, soccer, fh, etc...). I can't speak for Hero's but MnD encourages girls to play multiple sports during the off season but during the spring and summer lacrosse should be the focus. It's safe to say that both teams were missing players and I can probably bet YJ was missing a few also. If your 2-3 ringers played this weekend your team probably had an advantage. if not you were at a disadvantage. So any "who beat who" is moot. Its the spring and summer games that count.


It all counts Did you tell your daughter it doesnt count when she was stepping out on the field

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M&D has their kids playing all winter so no excuses. It is pathetic to fight about indoor lax though. I feel bad for the kids that don't get a chance to play multiple sports due to the psycho M&D rules.


I see girls from Hero's and MnD every week at other sporting events (basketball, soccer, fh, etc...). I can't speak for Hero's but MnD encourages girls to play multiple sports during the off season but during the spring and summer lacrosse should be the focus. It's safe to say that both teams were missing players and I can probably bet YJ was missing a few also. If your 2-3 ringers played this weekend your team probably had an advantage. if not you were at a disadvantage. So any "who beat who" is moot. Its the spring and summer games that count.


It all counts Did you tell your daughter it doesnt count when she was stepping out on the field

You're right. It counts for the kids but does it really mean anything for parents? I have seen enough of these teams to know if a player or players are missing it makes a difference. Given this was an optional game for most clubs some parents/kids opted to sit this one out. If Hero's was at full strength for the game I would have more concern that they only beat MnD by a couple goals. Especially knowing who was missing on the MnD end. If Hero's was missing players also, then as I said the game was "moot" and you cannot judge either on who was missing.

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News flash, none of this "counts". Remember the whole reason your daughter is even playing club lacrosse. It makes no darn difference who wins these games.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
News flash, none of this "counts". Remember the whole reason your daughter is even playing club lacrosse. It makes no darn difference who wins these games.


100% this. I saw MnD and Heros girls hug after their game. My daughter isn't even on either of those teams, but to look at this board you would think they were mortal enemies. These Children just want to go play a game with their friends. As parents we want them to learn the game and get better. Nothing else matters at this point.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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News flash, none of this "counts". Remember the whole reason your daughter is even playing club lacrosse. It makes no darn difference who wins these games.


100% this. I saw MnD and Heros girls hug after their game. My daughter isn't even on either of those teams, but to look at this board you would think they were mortal enemies. These Children just want to go play a game with their friends. As parents we want them to learn the game and get better. Nothing else matters at this point.


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As a coach I can honestly say that it is the parents that ruin this whole process by pressuring these kids to play too much too early. You don't see the kids talking trash about indoor (make believe lax) . It is the nonathletic parents or the ex mens lax dad's that cause most of the issues. Let the girls be balanced kids and not lose their middle and high school years because dad wants her to go D1 to brag to friends. In college no one cares about which club team you played on.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Looks like Hero's got the best of M&D again this weekend



M&D were missing many key players and speaking of getting the best how did the YJ game go. OH My what a blowout I think Spallina's kid is still scoring goals. Enjoy it now because at full strength its M&D by a landslide



I think we're in for some good lacrosse this summer. The YJ team is great, but if you watched the game, the Heros team really pulled it together in the second half. Too bad there was not enough time on the clock. After playing together all spring and summer Heros, M&D and YJ are all going to be a lot of fun to watch compete against one another.


Will they all be at Nationals?

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No, most Baltimore clubs shut down after Mid Atlantic Club Championship, and some clubs start having tryouts for next season. Most go on vacation. We will let NY clubs play each other for some fake prize.

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No, most Baltimore clubs shut down after Mid Atlantic Club Championship, and some clubs start having tryouts for next season. Most go on vacation. We will let NY clubs play each other for some fake prize.


Fake?, it's sponsored by US Lacrosse?

I get that the Mid Atlantic was the "event" back in the day, but times have changed. Aren't they the same week this year anyway?

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No, most Baltimore clubs shut down after Mid Atlantic Club Championship, and some clubs start having tryouts for next season. Most go on vacation. We will let NY clubs play each other for some fake prize.


Seriously ?!? Just because M&D isn't in it or Chris Robinson doesn't make money off of it - does not mean it's a fake prize. Wow the arrogance of M&D people kills me

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How many teams show up at Nationals. Last I checked, There was like 6 teams, with YJ having 3 of them.

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No, most Baltimore clubs shut down after Mid Atlantic Club Championship, and some clubs start having tryouts for next season. Most go on vacation. We will let NY clubs play each other for some fake prize.


Seriously ?!? Just because M&D isn't in it or Chris Robinson doesn't make money off of it - does not mean it's a fake prize. Wow the arrogance of M&D people kills me



How do you know this is M&D. Friends with parents on other teams and age groups and everyone is happy once the MA wraps up and we can enjoy our 2 weeks of summer. Most MD (not M&D) teams know that there is no need to travel outside of the area to play good competition. When we do, we end driving 3 hours to play the same teams we could play at home (Lax for the Cure).

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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No, most Baltimore clubs shut down after Mid Atlantic Club Championship, and some clubs start having tryouts for next season. Most go on vacation. We will let NY clubs play each other for some fake prize.


Seriously ?!? Just because M&D isn't in it or Chris Robinson doesn't make money off of it - does not mean it's a fake prize. Wow the arrogance of M&D people kills me


It's not just M&D people. Teams stopped attending nationals years ago. YJ wins every year because there is no competition. Not sure why Carol Rose continues to send teams there. There have been years that the championship has been between a YJ A and B team. Waste of time. Yes, it's the same weekend as Mid-Atlantic. Check the tournament websites for lists of teams attending the two tournaments and you tell me which makes more sense.

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No, most Baltimore clubs shut down after Mid Atlantic Club Championship, and some clubs start having tryouts for next season. Most go on vacation. We will let NY clubs play each other for some fake prize.


Seriously ?!? Just because M&D isn't in it or Chris Robinson doesn't make money off of it - does not mean it's a fake prize. Wow the arrogance of M&D people kills me


It's not just M&D people. Teams stopped attending nationals years ago. YJ wins every year because there is no competition. Not sure why Carol Rose continues to send teams there. There have been years that the championship has been between a YJ A and B team. Waste of time. Yes, it's the same weekend as Mid-Atlantic. Check the tournament websites for lists of teams attending the two tournaments and you tell me which makes more sense.


Also, no one wants to play Spalina's team.

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Heros/Skywalkers/MND play the same tourneys year in and year out. They don’t sons get any teams.

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Nationals has birth year restrictions. MD girls are too old. NY girls are all 1-2 years younger than most girls on Md teams.

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Nationals has birth year restrictions. MD girls are too old. NY girls are all 1-2 years younger than most girls on Md teams.


Fake News. This excuse gets so old. Girls don't hold back like boys do. It's very rare for a girl to be born prior to 9/1. I was in the hotel bar up at spooky nook and a LI dad told me that MD school date is 6/1. I corrected him that it's 9/1. I know the date on LI is later but it's a couple months not a couple years.

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The difference is four months - not two. If you include a couple of repeats it increases to about five months. It can matter depending on who the kids are and certainly if there is an advantage it diminishes over time. LI exaggerates it and MD minimizes it - probably somewhere in the middle.

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Nationals has birth year restrictions. MD girls are too old. NY girls are all 1-2 years younger than most girls on Md teams.


Fake News. This excuse gets so old. Girls don't hold back like boys do. It's very rare for a girl to be born prior to 9/1. I was in the hotel bar up at spooky nook and a LI dad told me that MD school date is 6/1. I corrected him that it's 9/1. I know the date on LI is later but it's a couple months not a couple years.



What are the US Lacrosse rules with cutoff 10/1? Could the kids born in September of the previous year play? I could see that being a problem if a theoretical 1/12 of your team couldn't play. Why not stay at your own tournament, double dip, and have a chance to actually win it this year with Spalina at Nationals.

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Re: Girls 2025 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #298325
01/17/20 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
The difference is four months - not two. If you include a couple of repeats it increases to about five months. It can matter depending on who the kids are and certainly if there is an advantage it diminishes over time. LI exaggerates it and MD minimizes it - probably somewhere in the middle.


The best is the in state fighting on the topic. Where you have the M&D Red Team parents saying that the Black Team is all hold backs and Red Team are the "true" 2025s.

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Re: Girls 2025 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: Anonymous] #298345
01/19/20 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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Nationals has birth year restrictions. MD girls are too old. NY girls are all 1-2 years younger than most girls on Md teams.


Fake News. This excuse gets so old. Girls don't hold back like boys do. It's very rare for a girl to be born prior to 9/1. I was in the hotel bar up at spooky nook and a LI dad told me that MD school date is 6/1. I corrected him that it's 9/1. I know the date on LI is later but it's a couple months not a couple years.



What are the US Lacrosse rules with cutoff 10/1? Could the kids born in September of the previous year play? I could see that being a problem if a theoretical 1/12 of your team couldn't play. Why not stay at your own tournament, double dip, and have a chance to actually win it this year with Spalina at Nationals.


It’s not September of the previous year is 3 months earlier. Which might be 3-4 girls but keep using that as a excuse. What ever make long inlanders sleep well...

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Re: Girls 2025 Grads - Mid Atlantic Region [Re: TheBackOfTheCage] #298363
01/20/20 10:01 AM
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Going to a calendar year is the ONLY way to solve the holdback age problem. The reasons to hold your kid nack are personal but its definitely an advantage.when my daughter began 7th grade she was tweleve and a half. She turned 13 in February. But a girl on her yeam turned 14 in the end of September - but some if the girls on the team had just turned 12 in july and august. That made this player a full 22 and 23 months older than her teammates. That is a huge advantage - especially for middle school girls. Since then our team has added another girl who really should be in the grade above. If it van work for soccer which has way more partivipants - it can work for lacrosse.

Since this is a 25's forum ill use the m&d black 25's as an example.... two of their starting midfielders shpuld be in tbe 24's. Both are impact players.

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