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So...not all Zeus team players, got it


How many kids that are on the academy team aren't on Zeus?

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So...not all Zeus team players, got it


How many kids that are on the academy team aren't on Zeus?


10+

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Academy and Zeus are Brotherly Love teams. Some kids play exclusively for Zeus and some exclusively for Academy. Others play for both. Academy provides additional field time for kids from Zeus and other club teams who want an additional elite experience. I'm not sure what difference it makes that kids play for both teams. Why is this a topic?

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Academy and Zeus are Brotherly Love teams. Some kids play exclusively for Zeus and some exclusively for Academy. Others play for both. Academy provides additional field time for kids from Zeus and other club teams who want an additional elite experience. I'm not sure what difference it makes that kids play for both teams. Why is this a topic?


Because the team that played Platinum Cup was billed as Zeus, and it was not. Not that it matters, but some people obviously care about this, not sure why. Perhaps because there is a history on this forum about how special the Zeus team is, no holdbacks, no guest players, etc.

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Academy and Zeus are Brotherly Love teams. Some kids play exclusively for Zeus and some exclusively for Academy. Others play for both. Academy provides additional field time for kids from Zeus and other club teams who want an additional elite experience. I'm not sure what difference it makes that kids play for both teams. Why is this a topic?


Because the team that played Platinum Cup was billed as Zeus, and it was not. Not that it matters, but some people obviously care about this, not sure why. Perhaps because there is a history on this forum about how special the Zeus team is, no holdbacks, no guest players, etc.


How about we talk about the mesa holdback from haverford turning 16 in september.

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No PA team in the winners bracket at Crabfeast, but looks like they all had winning records. Maybe BL academy should have went instead.

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No PA team in the winners bracket at Crabfeast, but looks like they all had winning records. Maybe BL academy should have went instead.

The championship bracket was made up of the "winners" of each pool, some of which were very weak while others were very strong. So you ended up with weak teams like Team MN in there but strong teams like BL, Mesa and Freedom out even though their brackets were quite competitive.

BL and Mesa did meet in the consolation bracket. Way better game than VLC vs Team MN.

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No PA team in the winners bracket at Crabfeast, but looks like they all had winning records. Maybe BL academy should have went instead.


If Crabfeast took the overall top 6 teams BL would of been 4 seed. Freedom was tied for 6 seed but FCA had the head to head on them. Mesa could of easily won vs Legends played bad. Same with BL vs VLC easily should of won that game. Poor showing but could of went either way

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No PA team in the winners bracket at Crabfeast, but looks like they all had winning records. Maybe BL academy should have went instead.

Yeah it's weird. Almost like the brackets/playoffs were setup to ensure that.

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No PA team in the winners bracket at Crabfeast, but looks like they all had winning records. Maybe BL academy should have went instead.

Yeah it's weird. Almost like the brackets/playoffs were setup to ensure that.


Give me a break. BL, Freedom & Mesa were the top-ranked teams in their groups according to the guys that rank teams. Maybe the '23 PA teams just aren't as good as you think they are.

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No PA team in the winners bracket at Crabfeast, but looks like they all had winning records. Maybe BL academy should have went instead.

Yeah it's weird. Almost like the brackets/playoffs were setup to ensure that.


Give me a break. BL, Freedom & Mesa were the top-ranked teams in their groups according to the guys that rank teams. Maybe the '23 PA teams just aren't as good as you think they are.


I have no skin in the game with either a MD or PA team, but none of the 2023 PA teams have the top to bottom talent that you see on Hawks or Crabs. Yes, there are some very talented players on the PA teams, but they simply cannot match up with the depth of talent on the top MD team rosters.

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No PA team in the winners bracket at Crabfeast, but looks like they all had winning records. Maybe BL academy should have went instead.

Yeah it's weird. Almost like the brackets/playoffs were setup to ensure that.


Give me a break. BL, Freedom & Mesa were the top-ranked teams in their groups according to the guys that rank teams. Maybe the '23 PA teams just aren't as good as you think they are.


All are very good teams but you can’t have a letdown game in top tournaments there are way too many good teams. Top competition in almost all games, great weekend of lacrosse, it’s not always about winning. If you don’t understand that you should have your team go to a top tournament at least once in the summer, if you can get invited.

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No PA team in the winners bracket at Crabfeast, but looks like they all had winning records. Maybe BL academy should have went instead.


If Crabfeast took the overall top 6 teams BL would of been 4 seed. Freedom was tied for 6 seed but FCA had the head to head on them. Mesa could of easily won vs Legends played bad. Same with BL vs VLC easily should of won that game. Poor showing but could of went either way

BL could/should have easily won if they scored more goals than the other team....but they did not. Not going to beat a lot of teams scoring two goals. What happened?

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If you're going to have widely varying quality of teams in pool play, an organizer has got to have a better method of picking which teams advance to the bracket than just pool winners.

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If you're going to have widely varying quality of teams in pool play, an organizer has got to have a better method of picking which teams advance to the bracket than just pool winners.

Or just be sure to win your pool. Best two teams made the finals, can't really argue with the semi final teams either.

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If you're going to have widely varying quality of teams in pool play, an organizer has got to have a better method of picking which teams advance to the bracket than just pool winners.

Or just be sure to win your pool. Best two teams made the finals, can't really argue with the semi final teams either.


Freedom beat leading edge. They were in semis

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If you're going to have widely varying quality of teams in pool play, an organizer has got to have a better method of picking which teams advance to the bracket than just pool winners.

Or just be sure to win your pool. Best two teams made the finals, can't really argue with the semi final teams either.


Freedom beat leading edge. They were in semis

Yes by two. But leading Edge beat FCA who beat Freedom. They were all in the same
Pool. The Goals allowed is the tie breaker. Any team in that pool was not beating Hawks. These were close games. I agree that the Team MN bracket was weak but it all worked out in the end. All final four teams deserved
It. The best two teams played for the championship.

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If you're going to have widely varying quality of teams in pool play, an organizer has got to have a better method of picking which teams advance to the bracket than just pool winners.

Or just be sure to win your pool. Best two teams made the finals, can't really argue with the semi final teams either.


BL lost by one goal to hawks last weekend who just beat crabs. Crabs demolished VLC are you still gonna say the 4 best made semis. Awful playoff seeding they need to create equal pools atleast.

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[quote=Anonymous]If you're going to have widely varying quality of teams in pool play, an organizer has got to have a better method of picking which teams advance to the bracket than just pool winners.

Or just be sure to win your pool. Best two teams made the finals, can't really argue with the semi final teams either.


BL lost by one goal to hawks last weekend who just beat crabs. Crabs demolished VLC are you still gonna say the 4 best made semis. Awful playoff seeding they need to create equal pools at least

BL had the easiest route to the playoffs (besides minn group) and blew it. VLC is decent but not a top team, It just shows that without the Mesa, Academy, and the multiple guest players they use BL just isn’t that good.

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If you're going to have widely varying quality of teams in pool play, an organizer has got to have a better method of picking which teams advance to the bracket than just pool winners.

Or just be sure to win your pool. Best two teams made the finals, can't really argue with the semi final teams either.


BL lost by one goal to hawks last weekend who just beat crabs. Crabs demolished VLC are you still gonna say the 4 best made semis. Awful playoff seeding they need to create equal pools atleast.

You realize how silly your logic is when BL lost to the team you are saying was weak

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[quote=Anonymous]If you're going to have widely varying quality of teams in pool play, an organizer has got to have a better method of picking which teams advance to the bracket than just pool winners.

Or just be sure to win your pool. Best two teams made the finals, can't really argue with the semi final teams either.


BL lost by one goal to hawks last weekend who just beat crabs. Crabs demolished VLC are you still gonna say the 4 best made semis. Awful playoff seeding they need to create equal pools at least

BL had the easiest route to the playoffs (besides minn group) and blew it. VLC is decent but not a top team, It just shows that without the Mesa, Academy, and the multiple guest players they use BL just isn’t that good.

I feel bad for you. Do you have a job? a hobby? Youre clearly spending too much time worrying about 2023 lacrosse game outcomes. Please keep perspective...the Creator's game is, in fact, a game (meant to heal).

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I was told Mesa 2023 beat BL Zeus at Crabfeast last weekend...is that correct?

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I was told Mesa 2023 beat BL Zeus at Crabfeast last weekend...is that correct?


True...unfortunately for both it was a meaningless game...

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It was a shame the Philly elite teams suffered upsets in pool play, but it happens. It was a bigger shame that the seeding plan for the elimination round was so poorly designed that good teams ended up playing meaningless games on Sunday. When you get up by five or so, and have to start playing "pass it around, everybody gets a touch" every possession, it's not good for either team.

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It was a shame the Philly elite teams suffered upsets in pool play, but it happens. It was a bigger shame that the seeding plan for the elimination round was so poorly designed that good teams ended up playing meaningless games on Sunday. When you get up by five or so, and have to start playing "pass it around, everybody gets a touch" every possession, it's not good for either team.

At this point of the summer, which teams are considered the Philly Elite teams?

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It was a shame the Philly elite teams suffered upsets in pool play, but it happens. It was a bigger shame that the seeding plan for the elimination round was so poorly designed that good teams ended up playing meaningless games on Sunday. When you get up by five or so, and have to start playing "pass it around, everybody gets a touch" every possession, it's not good for either team.

At this point of the summer, which teams are considered the Philly Elite teams?


Not in any order:

BL Academy
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It was a shame the Philly elite teams suffered upsets in pool play, but it happens. It was a bigger shame that the seeding plan for the elimination round was so poorly designed that good teams ended up playing meaningless games on Sunday. When you get up by five or so, and have to start playing "pass it around, everybody gets a touch" every possession, it's not good for either team.

At this point of the summer, which teams are considered the Philly Elite teams?


Not in any order:

BL Academy
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Got it so basically three teams

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It was a shame the Philly elite teams suffered upsets in pool play, but it happens. It was a bigger shame that the seeding plan for the elimination round was so poorly designed that good teams ended up playing meaningless games on Sunday. When you get up by five or so, and have to start playing "pass it around, everybody gets a touch" every possession, it's not good for either team.

At this point of the summer, which teams are considered the Philly Elite teams?


Not in any order:

BL Academy
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Got it so basically three teams


Yes, all 3 are are very competitive good options if you’re an elite player.

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It was a shame the Philly elite teams suffered upsets in pool play, but it happens. It was a bigger shame that the seeding plan for the elimination round was so poorly designed that good teams ended up playing meaningless games on Sunday. When you get up by five or so, and have to start playing "pass it around, everybody gets a touch" every possession, it's not good for either team.

At this point of the summer, which teams are considered the Philly Elite teams?


Not in any order:

BL Academy
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BL

Got it so basically three teams


Yes, all 3 are are very competitive good options if you’re an elite player.


I think you missed the joke....

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Summer season's pretty much over and high school tryouts are beginning. What teams are on the rise and which ones are falling stars?

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Summer season's pretty much over and high school tryouts are beginning. What teams are on the rise and which ones are falling stars?

Rumor is that a certain former Sons coach has pissed off a fair number of Mesa players who are now jumping ship.

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Summer season's pretty much over and high school tryouts are beginning. What teams are on the rise and which ones are falling stars?

Rumor is that a certain former Sons coach has pissed off a fair number of Mesa players who are now jumping ship.


What a surprise

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Summer season's pretty much over and high school tryouts are beginning. What teams are on the rise and which ones are falling stars?

Rumor is that a certain former Sons coach has pissed off a fair number of Mesa players who are now jumping ship.

It's honestly such a shame. He has a wealth of knowledge to pass along to these kids. Wish, for himself and his son, he could pull himself together.

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Rumor is you are making things up...he isn't the reason any of those kids left. Daddy ball and 28 man roster more like it..

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Rumor is you are making things up...he isn't the reason any of those kids left. Daddy ball and 28 man roster more like it..


Isn't he the "daddy" though?

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Rumor is you are making things up...he isn't the reason any of those kids left. Daddy ball and 28 man roster more like it..


Isn't he the "daddy" though?


I think its more about the kids that have been on the team for years that probably shouldn't be....good news for other programs if some of the top talent moves on though...

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Rumor is you are making things up...he isn't the reason any of those kids left. Daddy ball and 28 man roster more like it..


Isn't he the "daddy" though?


I think its more about the kids that have been on the team for years that probably shouldn't be....good news for other programs if some of the top talent moves on though...


In these situations it's always the top talent that leaves, not the bench warmers.

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Rumor is you are making things up...he isn't the reason any of those kids left. Daddy ball and 28 man roster more like it..


Isn't he the "daddy" though?


I think its more about the kids that have been on the team for years that probably shouldn't be....good news for other programs if some of the top talent moves on though...


In these situations it's always the top talent that leaves, not the bench warmers.


It is not because of TS the kids are leaving. It is actually because of the head coach and not enough playing time because of a 28 man roster and Haverford bias. 4 kids on Mesa jumping to BL and Sons 2 best players. BL the team to beat next year.

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Rumor is you are making things up...he isn't the reason any of those kids left. Daddy ball and 28 man roster more like it..


Isn't he the "daddy" though?


I think its more about the kids that have been on the team for years that probably shouldn't be....good news for other programs if some of the top talent moves on though...


In these situations it's always the top talent that leaves, not the bench warmers.


It is not because of TS the kids are leaving. It is actually because of the head coach and not enough playing time because of a 28 man roster and Haverford bias. 4 kids on Mesa jumping to BL and Sons 2 best players. BL the team to beat next year.


Sons have best players?

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Rumor is you are making things up...he isn't the reason any of those kids left. Daddy ball and 28 man roster more like it..


Isn't he the "daddy" though?


I think its more about the kids that have been on the team for years that probably shouldn't be....good news for other programs if some of the top talent moves on though...


In these situations it's always the top talent that leaves, not the bench warmers.


It is not because of TS the kids are leaving. It is actually because of the head coach and not enough playing time because of a 28 man roster and Haverford bias. 4 kids on Mesa jumping to BL and Sons 2 best players. BL the team to beat next year.


Head coach has been with the program for a while. I get that there is a THS vs public school thing going on. The players leaving were a big part of Mesa beating BL this summer. Academy was a brilliant recruiting hammerhead for Brotherly Love, that's for sure.

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