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Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286791
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Looneys has not greater claim to elite than Breakers.



Silly comment. Looneys top team would crush Breakers. They had a rough HOCO season against the top 3, but there is a big difference athletically between the elite teams (except maybe 91) and most other teams.

Just as a point of comparison, Looneys just went 2-1 in group play at NALL (only loss to Igloo). They then played the Hawks in the first round of the playoffs and outplayed them for much of the game only to lose in overtime. Anyone want to claim that Breakers could play with (and come close to beating) the Hawks?


Did the Loyola coach takeover for this tournament?

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Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286804
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No he is not coaching until next year. Breakers is not on the same level at all as any of the clubs that played in the HOCO elite division or play in the top tournaments. They do not have any players that could make any of those teams either which is why they also will not be attracting any players from those clubs to join them unless those players are not able to make the top team on one of those clubs. They are an overpriced rec team like many of the other clubs. If you look at HOCO, there were like 35-40 teams and maybe 10 are actual clubs. The rest are just stealing from families and playing rec competition and providing rec development and instruction.

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286815
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No he is not coaching until next year. Breakers is not on the same level at all as any of the clubs that played in the HOCO elite division or play in the top tournaments. They do not have any players that could make any of those teams either which is why they also will not be attracting any players from those clubs to join them unless those players are not able to make the top team on one of those clubs. They are an overpriced rec team like many of the other clubs. If you look at HOCO, there were like 35-40 teams and maybe 10 are actual clubs. The rest are just stealing from families and playing rec competition and providing rec development and instruction.


Are Looneys, FCA, and clubs elite with a second team in a lower division also stealing?

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: TM@BOTC] #286816
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It’s also fraud to misrepresent your team as elite when you clearly don’t belong there.

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286823
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No he is not coaching until next year. Breakers is not on the same level at all as any of the clubs that played in the HOCO elite division or play in the top tournaments. They do not have any players that could make any of those teams either which is why they also will not be attracting any players from those clubs to join them unless those players are not able to make the top team on one of those clubs. They are an overpriced rec team like many of the other clubs. If you look at HOCO, there were like 35-40 teams and maybe 10 are actual clubs. The rest are just stealing from families and playing rec competition and providing rec development and instruction.

I just checked 45 teams at 2023. This statement is accurate. But, it is time to move on. There is no longer such a thing as "Elite" what really matters is the type of events a club plays in. However, I am not one to care about the finances of another. $1500 to $2500 does not seem like a lot of money to the demographic of club lacrosse. What is that one less ski trip a winter? Kids paying 35K+ to attend a private HS primarily for lacrosse or paying 65K less a litte lacrosse discount at a private college is the money grab. It is accurate IMHO that 10 teams in the mid-atlantic can play and show well at the top events. A team that gets blown out by 10 goals is not helping either team or the players showcase to coaches. 4-5 teams at the top are better than the lower 4-5 teams. There are maybe 4-5 in the Philly area 5-6 in LI 10 in all of NY, NJ area, 4-5 in NE and 1-2 in each of the major southern and western markets that can play and do well in the top events. With all of that, Breakers are not one of those teams.

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Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: TM@BOTC] #286854
06/17/19 12:34 PM
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What has happen to the 2023 Hawks?

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286856
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What has happen to the 2023 Hawks?


What do you mean? Looks like they went 5-1 this weekend?

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286864
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What has happen to the 2023 Hawks?


What do you mean? Looks like they went 5-1 this weekend?


Once you get to the elite level of lacrosse it's all about Championships. Beating up on some cupcake teams and OT against Looneys…… You can't be happy with that? Can you? How many championships have Hawks won this season 2018-2019?

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286865
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very close games for hawks which isn't their usual showing; they generally crush; they were missing their faceoff guy - looneys gave them a scare forcing OT

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286873
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very close games for hawks which isn't their usual showing; they generally crush; they were missing their faceoff guy - looneys gave them a scare forcing OT


Brotherly Love is no cupcake team

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Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: TM@BOTC] #286874
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You Baltimore guys are fools. Crabs is the only elite team. Both Looneys teams, both FCA teams, and 91 Md are lousy. All five teams with losing records.

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286876
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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What has happen to the 2023 Hawks?


What do you mean? Looks like they went 5-1 this weekend?


Once you get to the elite level of lacrosse it's all about Championships. Beating up on some cupcake teams and OT against Looneys…… You can't be happy with that? Can you? How many championships have Hawks won this season 2018-2019?


No it's not. You are an stunad..... No one cares about 8th grade summer lacrosse.... No one will remember what championships you won and how many t-shirts and hats you received..... This must be a Crabs parent who has been drinking the Kool-Aid for a while and have been winning lots of championships with a team full of Hold-backs..... Enjoy pumping your chest out....Next year no one cares and your kid probably won't play....Nice job on riding the coat tails of a few hold back kids....

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286883
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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very close games for hawks which isn't their usual showing; they generally crush; they were missing their faceoff guy - looneys gave them a scare forcing OT


Brotherly Love is no cupcake team


Brotherly Love is the best greater Philly area team - and the only "elite" level team around. So it attracts a really good group of players.

Hawks only loss the entire weekend was in the Championship game against DC Dogs. And man, did the Dogs look good throughout the tournament. The only game that was close for them was the Edge game - primarily because the Edge team has a very good (and different) Canadian style offense that gave the Dogs a bit of a challenge.

All in all, I think the Hawks had a good weekend - and the "scare" against Looneys was more about Looneys kids playing better and with more energy than it was about Hawks playing poorly. As for the missing FOGO, it wasn't like the Hawks used some random backup - they got a guest player from LI who looked pretty good from what I saw.

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286901
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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very close games for hawks which isn't their usual showing; they generally crush; they were missing their faceoff guy - looneys gave them a scare forcing OT


Brotherly Love is no cupcake team


Brotherly Love is the best greater Philly area team - and the only "elite" level team around. So it attracts a really good group of players.

Hawks only loss the entire weekend was in the Championship game against DC Dogs. And man, did the Dogs look good throughout the tournament. The only game that was close for them was the Edge game - primarily because the Edge team has a very good (and different) Canadian style offense that gave the Dogs a bit of a challenge.

All in all, I think the Hawks had a good weekend - and the "scare" against Looneys was more about Looneys kids playing better and with more energy than it was about Hawks playing poorly. As for the missing FOGO, it wasn't like the Hawks used some random backup - they got a guest player from LI who looked pretty good from what I saw.


Yea the fogo was from 91 bandits and extremely good probably better than there normal fogo so that is no excuse

Re: Boys 2023-8th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: TM@BOTC] #286929
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Looneys has a tough line up this weekend

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