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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: TM@BOTC] #286361
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so nobody is going to point out the giant elephants in the room? The NLF is the worst events for holding your sons back and playing much younger and much smaller non-cheaters. Annapolis Hawks have got to be the worst offenders, right next to prime time’s 15 year old lefty Attackmen. Parents actually parade 15 year old against 12/13 year olds and feel ok with this? And we pay for this type of garbage?

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286366
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When referee's make it about them self and not the kids its a BIG problem. They should not have been assigned to that game. Pack and Express are very good teams and should be proud of the effort they put into that game. One team being man down for 85% of the 2nd half because of questionable calls. If you have any knowledge of lacrosse you would see it was a really good game. I personally would like to see those 2 teams play more often.Kids played hard. Congrats to the Pack on winning.



Bro, you are completely delusional. Seriously. You are. To be fair, the Express defense was decent. Goalie was good. Fogo was good. Offense was non-existent. FYI. If you can't score goals, you can't win any games. Your organization prioritizes holdback size over lacrosse skill and IQ. And it shows. Big time! Express tries (and fails) to follow the MD cheater model. Bad idea! The skill level and IQ of your offense was, in a word, poor. No. Very poor. Sorry for the harsh reality check, but your offense is just bad. It's hard to imagine that with 32 kids on the Express roster, here on lacrosse-rich Long Island, you don't have any better lacrosse players available to pick from to play offense. Here's a tip. Your best players, might not be your biggest and oldest players. Woops! Just gave away the secret!



The Express offense has some good players. We have all seen them over the years. Hard to believe they have ZERO movement and set up for a midfield dodge most plays. Or attack from back of the cage.. Having big kids that can bull dodge through smaller players stops working around this age, and it has for them. My 5th grade PAL team has more movement. Pack ate it up, then watched the coach implode in a terrible way. Sad to see


You’re wrong. Express offense the past couple of years was “ok”. Not “good”. Their biggie ball served them well, and will continue to against most 2024 teams. But obviously not going to work against next level teams. To tell you the truth, it’s comparable to most better teams at this age. But to get to the next level, they need better players. Sorry If that sounds harsh, but that’s the way it is. Their offense is constructed for biggie ball. Not ball movement. Can’t be done with the group they gave now.

come on guy . Your team is the new middies you got . That’s it with out them . You’re right there with express !!

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Before the new middies got there the 'pack had express number last season. New middies scored 2 of the 6. Smoked on the face offs, that was the difference. Great job on that dropped ball. Stop your whining. 32 player roster and still no answer. 6-1 beat down. Stop the parents from whining and nothing would be said, but obviously thats an issue for this team. Now Player 29/32 go out there and see if you can do something

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286367
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so nobody is going to point out the giant elephants in the room? The NLF is the worst events for holding your sons back and playing much younger and much smaller non-cheaters. Annapolis Hawks have got to be the worst offenders, right next to prime time’s 15 year old lefty Attackmen. Parents actually parade 15 year old against 12/13 year olds and feel ok with this? And we pay for this type of garbage?


Good point. I have never seen a 7th grade team the size of that Hawks team, and I've been doing this a very long time. That Hawks team was the size of a varsity team. That team was ENORMOUS. And they are all suppose to be 12/13 year old 7th graders??? Yeah right!! How much of an advantage do these MD teams need, to be able to compete against 7th graders? Tell you what, though, that PT attackmen would have fit in very nicely on that team, size-wise!

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286368
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so nobody is going to point out the giant elephants in the room? The NLF is the worst events for holding your sons back and playing much younger and much smaller non-cheaters. Annapolis Hawks have got to be the worst offenders, right next to prime time’s 15 year old lefty Attackmen. Parents actually parade 15 year old against 12/13 year olds and feel ok with this? And we pay for this type of garbage?



Agreed. The Hawks really want us to think that there giant players are not in high school. When you have multiple players on your team that are taller or as tall as every coach on the sideline no way that's a coincidence. Those giant kids should be playing up even if they were true 2024s. The things teams do just to get a few wins. Total garbage.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286380
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We played the hawks this weekend. It was give the ball to the big kids and run to the cage. Hawks parents cheering like their high school aged sons are accomplishing something

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286383
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so nobody is going to point out the giant elephants in the room? The NLF is the worst events for holding your sons back and playing much younger and much smaller non-cheaters. Annapolis Hawks have got to be the worst offenders, right next to prime time’s 15 year old lefty Attackmen. Parents actually parade 15 year old against 12/13 year olds and feel ok with this? And we pay for this type of garbage?



Agreed. The Hawks really want us to think that there giant players are not in high school. When you have multiple players on your team that are taller or as tall as every coach on the sideline no way that's a coincidence. Those giant kids should be playing up even if they were true 2024s. The things teams do just to get a few wins. Total garbage.


There’s only one problem with your logic. Bigger does not mean better. There wasn’t one kid on the Hawks that would see meaningful playing time on the Pack. Their only advantage was their size and obviously that didn’t help them at all.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286406
06/11/19 04:11 PM
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When referee's make it about them self and not the kids its a BIG problem. They should not have been assigned to that game. Pack and Express are very good teams and should be proud of the effort they put into that game. One team being man down for 85% of the 2nd half because of questionable calls. If you have any knowledge of lacrosse you would see it was a really good game. I personally would like to see those 2 teams play more often.Kids played hard. Congrats to the Pack on winning.



Bro, you are completely delusional. Seriously. You are. To be fair, the Express defense was decent. Goalie was good. Fogo was good. Offense was non-existent. FYI. If you can't score goals, you can't win any games. Your organization prioritizes holdback size over lacrosse skill and IQ. And it shows. Big time! Express tries (and fails) to follow the MD cheater model. Bad idea! The skill level and IQ of your offense was, in a word, poor. No. Very poor. Sorry for the harsh reality check, but your offense is just bad. It's hard to imagine that with 32 kids on the Express roster, here on lacrosse-rich Long Island, you don't have any better lacrosse players available to pick from to play offense. Here's a tip. Your best players, might not be your biggest and oldest players. Woops! Just gave away the secret!



The Express offense has some good players. We have all seen them over the years. Hard to believe they have ZERO movement and set up for a midfield dodge most plays. Or attack from back of the cage.. Having big kids that can bull dodge through smaller players stops working around this age, and it has for them. My 5th grade PAL team has more movement. Pack ate it up, then watched the coach implode in a terrible way. Sad to see


You’re wrong. Express offense the past couple of years was “ok”. Not “good”. Their biggie ball served them well, and will continue to against most 2024 teams. But obviously not going to work against next level teams. To tell you the truth, it’s comparable to most better teams at this age. But to get to the next level, they need better players. Sorry If that sounds harsh, but that’s the way it is. Their offense is constructed for biggie ball. Not ball movement. Can’t be done with the group they gave now.

come on guy . Your team is the new middies you got . That’s it with out them . You’re right there with express !!

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Before the new middies got there the 'pack had express number last season. New middies scored 2 of the 6. Smoked on the face offs, that was the difference. Great job on that dropped ball. Stop your whining. 32 player roster and still no answer. 6-1 beat down. Stop the parents from whining and nothing would be said, but obviously thats an issue for this team. Now Player 29/32 go out there and see if you can do something


your new ex express middie had 2 of 6 goals and assisted on another and didn't lose a face-off. I mean shame on express for not keeping him. Yet another reason express coach is worst at this age group. Based on his career track record he is better off as an assistant coach anyway. They need to bring in someone real and start over.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286410
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WRONG again he had 1 goal and Face-offs where even.. Greaser

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286428
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
so nobody is going to point out the giant elephants in the room? The NLF is the worst events for holding your sons back and playing much younger and much smaller non-cheaters. Annapolis Hawks have got to be the worst offenders, right next to prime time’s 15 year old lefty Attackmen. Parents actually parade 15 year old against 12/13 year olds and feel ok with this? And we pay for this type of garbage?

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so nobody is going to point out the giant elephants in the room? The NLF is the worst events for holding your sons back and playing much younger and much smaller non-cheaters. Annapolis Hawks have got to be the worst offenders, right next to prime time’s 15 year old lefty Attackmen. Parents actually parade 15 year old against 12/13 year olds and feel ok with this? And we pay for this type of garbage?

Originally Posted by Anonymous
so nobody is going to point out the giant elephants in the room? The NLF is the worst events for holding your sons back and playing much younger and much smaller non-cheaters. Annapolis Hawks have got to be the worst offenders, right next to prime time’s 15 year old lefty Attackmen. Parents actually parade 15 year old against 12/13 year olds and feel ok with this? And we pay for this type of garbage?



Go complain to the club you pay 1000s to. They own the framework and can change it. If you pay for an NLF founding club for travel, start there. The NLF clubs have the influence. And if play for one these clubs and complain about holdbacks....Your tuition fuels the system. I could care less, because it’s using the rules to your advantage.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286437
06/11/19 11:25 PM
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When referee's make it about them self and not the kids its a BIG problem. They should not have been assigned to that game. Pack and Express are very good teams and should be proud of the effort they put into that game. One team being man down for 85% of the 2nd half because of questionable calls. If you have any knowledge of lacrosse you would see it was a really good game. I personally would like to see those 2 teams play more often.Kids played hard. Congrats to the Pack on winning.



Bro, you are completely delusional. Seriously. You are. To be fair, the Express defense was decent. Goalie was good. Fogo was good. Offense was non-existent. FYI. If you can't score goals, you can't win any games. Your organization prioritizes holdback size over lacrosse skill and IQ. And it shows. Big time! Express tries (and fails) to follow the MD cheater model. Bad idea! The skill level and IQ of your offense was, in a word, poor. No. Very poor. Sorry for the harsh reality check, but your offense is just bad. It's hard to imagine that with 32 kids on the Express roster, here on lacrosse-rich Long Island, you don't have any better lacrosse players available to pick from to play offense. Here's a tip. Your best players, might not be your biggest and oldest players. Woops! Just gave away the secret!



The Express offense has some good players. We have all seen them over the years. Hard to believe they have ZERO movement and set up for a midfield dodge most plays. Or attack from back of the cage.. Having big kids that can bull dodge through smaller players stops working around this age, and it has for them. My 5th grade PAL team has more movement. Pack ate it up, then watched the coach implode in a terrible way. Sad to see


You’re wrong. Express offense the past couple of years was “ok”. Not “good”. Their biggie ball served them well, and will continue to against most 2024 teams. But obviously not going to work against next level teams. To tell you the truth, it’s comparable to most better teams at this age. But to get to the next level, they need better players. Sorry If that sounds harsh, but that’s the way it is. Their offense is constructed for biggie ball. Not ball movement. Can’t be done with the group they gave now.

come on guy . Your team is the new middies you got . That’s it with out them . You’re right there with express !!

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Before the new middies got there the 'pack had express number last season. New middies scored 2 of the 6. Smoked on the face offs, that was the difference. Great job on that dropped ball. Stop your whining. 32 player roster and still no answer. 6-1 beat down. Stop the parents from whining and nothing would be said, but obviously thats an issue for this team. Now Player 29/32 go out there and see if you can do something


Allow me to clarify. Packs secret to offensive success is total unselfishness/ball movement. But that wouldn’t work if they didn’t have the superior skill, field awareness and IQ, that each player possesses. One doesn’t happen without the other. Take a hard look at every position. Remove any of them from this team (speaking hypothetically of course!) and they are a superstar on any team. But on this team, there are no stars. There are only completely unselfish players that always prioritize team over self. Want proof? Goals and assists are always spread around evenly. The product of the team-first philosophy that is the engine that drives this team. How is all of this possible, at such a young (on age) team? Simple, it’s the product of the best coaching in the 2024 game. Plain and simple. Kudos to the coaching staff.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: TM@BOTC] #286438
06/12/19 06:36 AM
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Wow, some of the comments here are just unreal. Hope you all live in lacrosse communities like Massapequa GC SW or WM. Because when your kiddos get to HS it’s going to be real tough getting pummeled by these teams game after game.

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No one could ever say you guys aren't humble. Enjoy it while you can.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: TM@BOTC] #286457
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Express/Pack game I didn't see 1 assist. There was the 1 goal that deflected of a kids stick on the crease that went in so Ill give u that. Enough of this nonsense. Pack played really well and Express did not play well on Offense that game. I hope the boys play again. They will get better playing against each other more often.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #286486
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Wow, some of the comments here are just unreal. Hope you all live in lacrosse communities like Massapequa GC SW or WM. Because when your kiddos get to HS it’s going to be real tough getting pummeled by these teams game after game.



You’re not too familiar with the town landscape apparently. Teams don’t win just based on the name of a town. There has to be talent in those towns. At this age, most of those towns don’t have top talent in this grade or surrounding grades. It’s been a well known fact for years. The top contenders will be the same top teams of the past several years at this age. The teams to beat will be SWR, BBP and Mt Sinai. The rest of the teams on your list will not be in contention, at least during the years of 2023 and 2024.

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Wow, some of the comments here are just unreal. Hope you all live in lacrosse communities like Massapequa GC SW or WM. Because when your kiddos get to HS it’s going to be real tough getting pummeled by these teams game after game.



You’re not too familiar with the town landscape apparently. Teams don’t win just based on the name of a town. There has to be talent in those towns. At this age, most of those towns don’t have top talent in this grade or surrounding grades. It’s been a well known fact for years. The top contenders will be the same top teams of the past several years at this age. The teams to beat will be SWR, BBP and Mt Sinai. The rest of the teams on your list will not be in contention, at least during the years of 2023 and 2024.



When is the last time SWR, or MS played SW or WM? But keep thinking your club team will dictate your kids success in HS. Seen it before, club kids can't adjust to losing if they dont win at HS level and become cancers for the coaches. You'll see, SWR is losing a generational talent next year. They won't contend again.

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