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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283523
04/18/19 01:15 PM
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Serious question to all of the MD holdback parents: Why do you have your kids play down a year? Do they have a confidence problem, where they feel inferior to kids their own age? Or, without their size advantage, they really just compete with kids their own age? Maybe it's both? Very sad.


I would say one of the more difficult things for some kids , especially undersized kids, is making a AA team when most coaches are taking size over skill in 7th or 8th grade . a smaller boy may have superior speed, superior stick skills but lack size. its very unfortunate. so a boy that plays down, may be just positioning himself for the future as he has been pushed out of his own grade


MD lacrosse has a history of holding back in the Private schools. It used to be exclusive to Private schools. Advantage was not in youth lax..just school MS and HS.. Now HOCO has enabled MS and below private school holdbacks to play...Well now more and more are holding back at youth level.


I know. LI has no prep schools where this activity is down to an art form, so that’s got to be the main reason why it doesn’t happen up here very much. Regarding the top few teams, only one team has any holdbacks, which numbers probably about 4-5 would be my best guess. Could be less. But that’s nothing compared to the real holdback teams where basically their entire team is holdbacks. The top 2 teams have none and never have. For the most part, they develop the kids they have had since 2nd grade, and go with that, with a few exceptions.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283524
04/18/19 01:52 PM
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Based on everything I read on BOTC every state except NY has holdbacks? Wait, I’m pretty sure I did read “other” LI posts saying LIE are cheaters too with holdbacks. Man, that must mean there are really only two clubs in the USA that don’t have holdbacks. You guys should be proud and I wish you the best at the WSYL bc after that it’s all a bunch of excuses and you guys against the rest of the lax world! Except moving forward your boys will be playing by club rules like the rest of the country and then we will see how great your teams really are!


Bro. Check out the scores. Pack is crushing teams that are either beating all of the MD cheater teams, or giving them everything they can handle. Beat Legacy Taz 9-2. Limited all North region qualifiers to a maximum of 2 goals, without a single competitive game. Pack is undefeated so far, and they have played mostly better ‘23 teams, so playing up against the MD cheaters is not a problem. So prepare your 14 year old son for a beat down, Long Island 12/13 year old style. Because the Pack is looking for statement games, against the cheater teams.



"statement games" at the 2024 level, hahahahaha, that someone would even write something like that is so sad. Might feel sorry for someone who is this caught up in a youth sport but the LI posters on this board are so pathetic hard to conjure up any level of empathy.



Another OBSESSED Maryland holdback parent calling the kettle black.

The IRONY in your post "IS" MD's "statement"!

No place on the planet is more wrapped up in their youth lacrosse than our friendly HoCo "Elite" (now that's a joke!) parents. Most of the posts on this board make me want to puke, as I read who's Johnny-holdback team is the best of the best cheating holdback teams.

You know what is SAD???

The very definition of SAD is an entire state that creates nothing but cheating holdback teams that are 90% a year older than the rest of the teams, just so they can win a little kids game. THAT MY FRIEND IS BOTH... PSYCHOTICALLY OBSESSED AND PATHETIC!!

~The Parent of a Holdback-Free Team


Can almost hear the lip quivering of the poster above, all caps writing, yikes that really drives home a point. If most of the posts and parents on this board make you want to puke here is a novel idea, don't come to this board. The fact you not only continue to come to this board, but also take the time to post on it, now that is the true definition of sad.

What is even more sad and delusional is that you believe that people who holdback their children (the vast majority who do so when the kids are 4/5 years old) are doing it to win 7th grade lacrosse games or that you believe that 90% of the teams are holdbacks. By all means though feel free to have your beliefs, feel free to write in all caps to really drive your point home, and most importantly feel free to keep coming back to a place where the people who post make you want to puke. End of the day this board is all chirping and amusement for people anyway.

~ Parent of and On Age Elite Player

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: TM@BOTC] #283528
04/18/19 02:55 PM
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serious question... why don't LI teams just play in tournaments that MD teams don't attend ? Or play in age based tournaments only ?

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283538
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
serious question... why don't LI teams just play in tournaments that MD teams don't attend ? Or play in age based tournaments only ?

To pile on to this post - why is WP and TAz always boasting about winning 2023 tournaments and games and then always complaining about holdbacks??!! Isn’t that the same darn thing? Stop your blood clot crying and just let the kids play!

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283562
04/18/19 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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serious question... why don't LI teams just play in tournaments that MD teams don't attend ? Or play in age based tournaments only ?

To pile on to this post - why is WP and TAz always boasting about winning 2023 tournaments and games and then always complaining about holdbacks??!! Isn’t that the same darn thing? Stop your blood clot crying and just let the kids play!


Correct. It’s exactly the same thing. Identical. No difference whatsoever. Except for one thing. The ‘23 LI teams are on age teams playing other on age teams. The MD cheater teams are ‘23 teams portraying themselves to be ‘24 teams, which they are not. It’s deception. Lying. Slimy, slippery, dishonest cheating. THAT my friend is the difference. Nothing to do with playing older teams, since top LI teams do that all the time. It has everything to do with people telling you one thing but the reality is far different. It’s about dishonesty and cheating and lying about it, all to win a little kids game. Understand now? Nothing to do with playing substandard MD ‘23 teams. Everything to do with misrepresentation of the truth, or db cheater teams.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283585
04/19/19 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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serious question... why don't LI teams just play in tournaments that MD teams don't attend ? Or play in age based tournaments only ?

To pile on to this post - why is WP and TAz always boasting about winning 2023 tournaments and games and then always complaining about holdbacks??!! Isn’t that the same darn thing? Stop your blood clot crying and just let the kids play!


Correct. It’s exactly the same thing. Identical. No difference whatsoever. Except for one thing. The ‘23 LI teams are on age teams playing other on age teams. The MD cheater teams are ‘23 teams portraying themselves to be ‘24 teams, which they are not. It’s deception. Lying. Slimy, slippery, dishonest cheating. THAT my friend is the difference. Nothing to do with playing older teams, since top LI teams do that all the time. It has everything to do with people telling you one thing but the reality is far different. It’s about dishonesty and cheating and lying about it, all to win a little kids game. Understand now? Nothing to do with playing substandard MD ‘23 teams. Everything to do with misrepresentation of the truth, or db cheater teams.



Well MD teams are 2024 teams. They are just older than most lacrosse players by 1-2 years.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283615
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Well MD teams are 2024 teams. They are just older than most lacrosse players by 1-2 years.


You have to do better than that on this forum

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283633
04/19/19 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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serious question... why don't LI teams just play in tournaments that MD teams don't attend ? Or play in age based tournaments only ?

To pile on to this post - why is WP and TAz always boasting about winning 2023 tournaments and games and then always complaining about holdbacks??!! Isn’t that the same darn thing? Stop your blood clot crying and just let the kids play!


Correct. It’s exactly the same thing. Identical. No difference whatsoever. Except for one thing. The ‘23 LI teams are on age teams playing other on age teams. The MD cheater teams are ‘23 teams portraying themselves to be ‘24 teams, which they are not. It’s deception. Lying. Slimy, slippery, dishonest cheating. THAT my friend is the difference. Nothing to do with playing older teams, since top LI teams do that all the time. It has everything to do with people telling you one thing but the reality is far different. It’s about dishonesty and cheating and lying about it, all to win a little kids game. Understand now? Nothing to do with playing substandard MD ‘23 teams. Everything to do with misrepresentation of the truth, or db cheater teams.



Dude pull your panties out of your rear you really sound like they are bunching up on you. It’s not lying if everyone is upfront about it , which in MD they are! It’s not cheating if the league or tourney allows it which they do! SIOO you Long Island piece of garbage, decide if your team can either handle the pressure or they can’t. But please STFU and let the kids play!!

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283635
04/19/19 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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serious question... why don't LI teams just play in tournaments that MD teams don't attend ? Or play in age based tournaments only ?

To pile on to this post - why is WP and TAz always boasting about winning 2023 tournaments and games and then always complaining about holdbacks??!! Isn’t that the same darn thing? Stop your blood clot crying and just let the kids play!


Correct. It’s exactly the same thing. Identical. No difference whatsoever. Except for one thing. The ‘23 LI teams are on age teams playing other on age teams. The MD cheater teams are ‘23 teams portraying themselves to be ‘24 teams, which they are not. It’s deception. Lying. Slimy, slippery, dishonest cheating. THAT my friend is the difference. Nothing to do with playing older teams, since top LI teams do that all the time. It has everything to do with people telling you one thing but the reality is far different. It’s about dishonesty and cheating and lying about it, all to win a little kids game. Understand now? Nothing to do with playing substandard MD ‘23 teams. Everything to do with misrepresentation of the truth, or db cheater teams.

Dude pull your panties out of your rear you really sound like they are bunching up on you. It’s not lying if everyone is upfront about it , which in MD they are! It’s not cheating if the league or tourney allows it which they do! SIOO you Long Island piece of garbage, decide if your team can either handle the pressure or they can’t. But please STFU and let the kids play!!


Exactly ! MD teams are playing in right grade. We dont cheat by rules. Whats the big deal, Our teams are only 3 months to 18 months older than LI teams. Grow Up.. If you cant handle our older boys what can you handle ? Playing older players will make you better. Hit the wall if you cant play against our older players. None of us held our players back for lacrosse.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283650
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Lol. 18 months older and your kids “elite” team still can’t beat my kids little team. Lmao! That’s just pathetic.

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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serious question... why don't LI teams just play in tournaments that MD teams don't attend ? Or play in age based tournaments only ?

To pile on to this post - why is WP and TAz always boasting about winning 2023 tournaments and games and then always complaining about holdbacks??!! Isn’t that the same darn thing? Stop your blood clot crying and just let the kids play!


Correct. It’s exactly the same thing. Identical. No difference whatsoever. Except for one thing. The ‘23 LI teams are on age teams playing other on age teams. The MD cheater teams are ‘23 teams portraying themselves to be ‘24 teams, which they are not. It’s deception. Lying. Slimy, slippery, dishonest cheating. THAT my friend is the difference. Nothing to do with playing older teams, since top LI teams do that all the time. It has everything to do with people telling you one thing but the reality is far different. It’s about dishonesty and cheating and lying about it, all to win a little kids game. Understand now? Nothing to do with playing substandard MD ‘23 teams. Everything to do with misrepresentation of the truth, or db cheater teams.

Dude pull your panties out of your rear you really sound like they are bunching up on you. It’s not lying if everyone is upfront about it , which in MD they are! It’s not cheating if the league or tourney allows it which they do! SIOO you Long Island piece of garbage, decide if your team can either handle the pressure or they can’t. But please STFU and let the kids play!!


Exactly ! MD teams are playing in right grade. We dont cheat by rules. Whats the big deal, Our teams are only 3 months to 18 months older than LI teams. Grow Up.. If you cant handle our older boys what can you handle ? Playing older players will make you better. Hit the wall if you cant play against our older players. None of us held our players back for lacrosse.



You do realize that 18 months during the pubescent years is the physical difference between grown men and little boys, correct?

Based on your own comment, it's 12 and 13 year olds vs 14 and 15 year olds. Of course, nothing that we all didn't already know.

So why can't your "man-teams" beat my sons "little boy teams"???

Hmmm. Something to ponder.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283675
04/20/19 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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serious question... why don't LI teams just play in tournaments that MD teams don't attend ? Or play in age based tournaments only ?

To pile on to this post - why is WP and TAz always boasting about winning 2023 tournaments and games and then always complaining about holdbacks??!! Isn’t that the same darn thing? Stop your blood clot crying and just let the kids play!


Correct. It’s exactly the same thing. Identical. No difference whatsoever. Except for one thing. The ‘23 LI teams are on age teams playing other on age teams. The MD cheater teams are ‘23 teams portraying themselves to be ‘24 teams, which they are not. It’s deception. Lying. Slimy, slippery, dishonest cheating. THAT my friend is the difference. Nothing to do with playing older teams, since top LI teams do that all the time. It has everything to do with people telling you one thing but the reality is far different. It’s about dishonesty and cheating and lying about it, all to win a little kids game. Understand now? Nothing to do with playing substandard MD ‘23 teams. Everything to do with misrepresentation of the truth, or db cheater teams.

Dude pull your panties out of your rear you really sound like they are bunching up on you. It’s not lying if everyone is upfront about it , which in MD they are! It’s not cheating if the league or tourney allows it which they do! SIOO you Long Island piece of garbage, decide if your team can either handle the pressure or they can’t. But please STFU and let the kids play!!


Exactly ! MD teams are playing in right grade. We dont cheat by rules. Whats the big deal, Our teams are only 3 months to 18 months older than LI teams. Grow Up.. If you cant handle our older boys what can you handle ? Playing older players will make you better. Hit the wall if you cant play against our older players. None of us held our players back for lacrosse.



You do realize that 18 months during the pubescent years is the physical difference between grown men and little boys, correct?

Based on your own comment, it's 12 and 13 year olds vs 14 and 15 year olds. Of course, nothing that we all didn't already know.

So why can't your "man-teams" beat my sons "little boy teams"???

Hmmm. Something to ponder.









How about we send our '25's down to MD for your man-children to play? Think that would be enough of an advantage for your HoCo "elite" (wink, wink!) "boys"? It's OK, you can just change the grade year of your teams (again!), from 2023, I mean 2024 (sorry, that always screws me up) to 2025. No biggie. It'll be our little secret. No one will know that your boys are "cheating". Shhhh...

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283684
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
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serious question... why don't LI teams just play in tournaments that MD teams don't attend ? Or play in age based tournaments only ?

To pile on to this post - why is WP and TAz always boasting about winning 2023 tournaments and games and then always complaining about holdbacks??!! Isn’t that the same darn thing? Stop your blood clot crying and just let the kids play!


Correct. It’s exactly the same thing. Identical. No difference whatsoever. Except for one thing. The ‘23 LI teams are on age teams playing other on age teams. The MD cheater teams are ‘23 teams portraying themselves to be ‘24 teams, which they are not. It’s deception. Lying. Slimy, slippery, dishonest cheating. THAT my friend is the difference. Nothing to do with playing older teams, since top LI teams do that all the time. It has everything to do with people telling you one thing but the reality is far different. It’s about dishonesty and cheating and lying about it, all to win a little kids game. Understand now? Nothing to do with playing substandard MD ‘23 teams. Everything to do with misrepresentation of the truth, or db cheater teams.

Dude pull your panties out of your rear you really sound like they are bunching up on you. It’s not lying if everyone is upfront about it , which in MD they are! It’s not cheating if the league or tourney allows it which they do! SIOO you Long Island piece of garbage, decide if your team can either handle the pressure or they can’t. But please STFU and let the kids play!!


Exactly ! MD teams are playing in right grade. We dont cheat by rules. Whats the big deal, Our teams are only 3 months to 18 months older than LI teams. Grow Up.. If you cant handle our older boys what can you handle ? Playing older players will make you better. Hit the wall if you cant play against our older players. None of us held our players back for lacrosse.



You do realize that 18 months during the pubescent years is the physical difference between grown men and little boys, correct?

Based on your own comment, it's 12 and 13 year olds vs 14 and 15 year olds. Of course, nothing that we all didn't already know.

So why can't your "man-teams" beat my sons "little boy teams"???

Hmmm. Something to ponder.









How about we send our '25's down to MD for your man-children to play? Think that would be enough of an advantage for your HoCo "elite" (wink, wink!) "boys"? It's OK, you can just change the grade year of your teams (again!), from 2023, I mean 2024 (sorry, that always screws me up) to 2025. No biggie. It'll be our little secret. No one will know that your boys are "cheating". Shhhh...



You poor, sad under achiever. Trying to relive it through little Sal aren't you?

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: TM@BOTC] #283689
04/21/19 10:37 AM
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Madlax Capital 2024. Undisputed best team in this grade.

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Re: Boys 2024-7th Grade Fall 2018/Summer 2019 [Re: Anonymous] #283808
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Madlax Capital 2024. Undisputed best team in this grade.


Correction: Team 91 Wolfpack - INSIDE LACROSSE Magazines #1 Ranked team on the planet. And still 100% Holdback-free, just like always... totally cheater-free.

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