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Just curious if anybody knows how many Turtles have actually been moved up to JV in the traditional lacrosse power towns - GC, West Islip, Manhasset, Ward Melville, Massapequa etc.? Not talking about weaker school programs.

According to the Turtles website the boys are from the following towns: Would be particularly interested to hear about the CSH, Manhasset, Smithtown West and Ward Melville boys. These are tough towns to get moved up in.

Cold Spring Harbor 4
Manhasset 4
Smithtown East 4
Smithtown West 1
Hauppauge 1
Deer Park 1
Ward Melville 1
Kings Park 1
Sachem 1
Mt Sinai 1

If you believe the hype, they are starting JV at all these towns.

Disagree that all 3 can beat each other on any given day. 91 and fl$ not in that class, too slow. And fl$ attempted that mix indoor in NJ and got smoked. Terps Black holds two wins over Trueblue, TB has one win on Terps Black.

Turtles, terps black and TB, thats the mix.

How many cooked up some excuse to be moved up such as

1-if you dont move me up I will just play with my club team.

2-If you dont move me up I will go to St. Ants

3-If you dont move me up i will go to Chaminade.

4-You can fill in the ______________.

We will see how it all plays out in a few more years!!!!

None of the "hardshells" are on the Manhasset JV

Did they try and not make it or didn't try at all? Should be the most awesome MS team EV-ahh!

Umm....they lost 2x each to CSH MS and GC MS with those same four shells on the team. Far from awesome

But wait, Petro is still taking the whole team right?

There is not much difference between Terps Black and True Blue. Terps Black has more depth at Middie, True Blue has more depth at attack. Both teams have solid poles. Goalies are strong for both. Terps Black had no face off specialist and were rotating kids, True Blue goes with one solid face off kid.

After the games one of the refs said he let the kids play, so this Long Island style of play may or may not be able to be exported to environments where the officiating is more restrictive. However in this environment it makes for fun lacrosse.

so let me get this straight.. turtles play in a tournament in their age bracket and they get ripped. then they don't play in a tournament and get ripped. BOTC is a rough place

There is not much difference between Terps Black and True Blue. Terps Black has more depth at Middie, True Blue has more depth at attack. Both teams have solid poles. Goalies are strong for both. Terps Black had no face off specialist and were rotating kids, True Blue goes with one solid face off kid.

After the games one of the refs said he let the kids play, so this Long Island style of play may or may not be able to be exported to environments where the officiating is more restrictive. However in this environment it makes for fun lacrosse.

Agree...both teams displaying good qualities that can only improve.

From what I've seen in several MD tournaments...our LI players are way behind in the use of aggression when skills of players are less than optimal as demonstrated by the Breakers and Crabs and Green Turtles....our kids will look like good guys compared to those goons.

Agree...both teams displaying good qualities that can only improve.

From what I've seen in several MD tournaments...our LI players are way behind in the use of aggression when skills of players are less than optimal as demonstrated by the Breakers and Crabs and Green Turtles....our kids will look like good guys compared to those goons.

you are nuts if you think any 2017 team on Long Island can even hang with the Turtles. They would beat any of these teams by at least 10 goals. Stop being silly and get real.

when the turtles enter a local tournamnet without being secretive about it and figure out how to repelace the 3rd grade size kids on their team; then maybe they will have a chance...until then, I can only say you're still drinking the turtle kool-aid, turtle dad. the writing is on the wall...the myth has dissolved and the mighty shell backs have failed to thrive physically...living on past glory at this point.

Have JD set up a 3 way scrimmage with the terps black and true blue and throw in 91 for all the marbles...he wont do it...he has everything to lose and nothing to gain.

there it is Turtles...an open challenge to bring it. put up or shut up, once and for all.

better yet; make your tournament schedule public so other teams can come and challenge you...(nah, why do that and take a chance at getting whipped by other long island teams?)

that is why they will hide and play teams that can't measure up to any current 2017 long island team. The real competition is right here in his back yard as evidenced by all of the kids who made brine and jake reed...can anyone say "turtle soup?

cowards

when the turtles enter a local tournamnet without being secretive about it and figure out how to repelace the 3rd grade size kids on their team; then maybe they will have a chance...until then, I can only say you're still drinking the turtle kool-aid, turtle dad. the writing is on the wall...the myth has dissolved and the mighty shell backs have failed to thrive physically...living on past glory at this point.

Have JD set up a 3 way scrimmage with the terps black and true blue and throw in 91 for all the marbles...he wont do it...he has everything to lose and nothing to gain.

there it is Turtles...an open challenge to bring it. put up or shut up, once and for all.

better yet; make your tournament schedule public so other teams can come and challenge you...(nah, why do that and take a chance at getting whipped by other long island teams?)

that is why they will hide and play teams that can't measure up to any current 2017 long island team. The real competition is right here in his back yard as evidenced by all of the kids who made brine and jake reed...can anyone say "turtle soup?

cowards

wow, a lot of venom directed at a group of 13 year old boys? I cant believe the hatred and jealousy that is directed at this group of kids. My son plays for a mid level 2017 team and he has played with and against a lot of these Turtle kids for a few years now and it has always been my observation that the Turtle kids are good, hardworking kids. It has also been my experience that they have handled all comers at the 2017 level so far, including a recent fall matchup against the 2017 Terps team which they handled easily. I understand some of the animosity towards the coach, but I will never understand calling 13 year old boys cowards.........

They are the best team at the age group in the country, get used to it and over it.

I dont believe I said anything false or misleading. If my information was correct the Turtles ended up winning by 7 or 8 goals? If I am wrong then I apologize, but I watched some of the game and the Turtles were clearly better. For you to call it a "pick up" game is misleading and false. My son is not a Turtle as a matter of fact, I just dont understand the jealousy and hatred directed towards them, nor do I understand grown men calling 13yr old boys "cowards". I also dont understand people like yourself that feel the need to come on here and explain how the Express "Terps" black or whatever your calling that team these days are better than everyone else. You have a very good team there, why cant you just leave it at that? Be happy your son is on a good team.

Didn't there web site say they duck no one...just call
I wonder how they will respond to the challenge brought here. The poster of the challenge should recah out to JD directly and see his response. !!

cowards

Mule? Why are you saying he should pick 17 kids from TB, terp black and 91? Now Mule is the best evaluator of talent? Listen if you said take the best 10 from TB and best 10 from terps black NOW its another animal! 91 isn't in that mix! TB crushed them, not just 8-4 but a beating. If terps black beat TB twice, what do you think terps black would do to 91?

TB and Terps black in a different category than 91, as far as turtles it would be a good game between TB & turtles or terps black & turtles. Not a "blow out" either way.

I will say this about Mule, at least he stayed and watch the two teams play in the championship, several of us saw JD leave before it started.

Actually the score was 16-2 against the terps and 29-8 against 91 orange indoors less seven turtle kids. I know I know indoor means nothing and you are correct. Outdoors would have been a shutout