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Im quite familiar with their committments. Moderate for time money and branding

Especially mediocre D3 schools. Save your money and focus on academics


Yeah you're right. Lot of M&D black girls going to mediocre D3 schools.........
2018:
3 Duke
3 MD
2 Florida
Stanford
Yale
Georgetown
Va Tech
Louisville
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Hopkins
2 Radford
Monmouth
Furman

2019:
3 Maryland
2 Princeton
2 Va Tech
3 Hofstra
2 Towson
Stanford
PSU
Yale
BC
Loyola
Georgetown
Denver

2020:
3 MD
PSU
Florida
UNC
BC
Navy
Va Tech
Hopkins

2021:
MD

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Thanks for making my point. Between black and red only 19 committs. Radford Monmouth Furman Hofstra, Louisville is a commuter school. College Park is a scary place. Guess youre not really into the academic side. There is pro lacrosse.

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Thanks for making my point. Between black and red only 19 committs. Radford Monmouth Furman Hofstra, Louisville is a commuter school. College Park is a scary place. Guess youre not really into the academic side. There is pro lacrosse.


Those are only the black team commits. Please go ahead and let us know a club that has a better list of commits if you consider these mediocre.

If you're point is that club lacrosse is a waste of money in general and that your money is better spent on tutors go ahead and try and make it. Truth is though, it's easier to get into Stanford as a lacrosse player than it is to get into Maryland as a standard applicant. Nice of you to cherry pick a few schools of the bottoms of the roster and ignore all the Dukes, Stanfords, Princetons, Yales, Georgetown, Hopkins, Naval Academy, BC, UNC, etc

Please enlighten us on who does a better job of getting their girls into top schools year in and year out. Skywalkers does a great job. YJ as well.

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Question, as a parent with player on red team what are the opportunities to play division I lacrosse in Maryland?

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Terps, Tigers, Retrievers, Greyhounds, Blue Jays, Naval academy, and Mount st Marys. 7 schools. Naval Academy all free rides( kind of). Is that your question?

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Question, as a parent with player on red team what are the opportunities to play division I lacrosse in Maryland?


There are 115 D1 Women's Lacrosse programs. There is a spot for everyone pretty much. It really depends on what you are looking for. Plenty of great D3 schools as well.

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Once again why would anyone not want to play the sport. Be on the field have fun and show your skills and get better. No one cares if you are a bench warmer on MnD black vs starting and playing for someone else. Just look at their college committments. Moderate at best for black.


The commitments on website aren’t maintained or complete. There is no club that has better commitment lists than M&D. Go look at the actual list of top recruits on IL. Many are M&D players and going to top 10 lacrosse schools.



False statement. Skywalkers by far has the best, both blue and white. M and D red girls are mostly D3 commits. M and D Black are mostly D1, but not nearly the quality of Skywalkers. M and D has a great program though.

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Terps, Tigers, Retrievers, Greyhounds, Blue Jays, Naval academy, and Mount st Marys. 7 schools. Naval Academy all free rides( kind of). Is that your question?


I guess my question was do players on red team get recruited by these colleges? or what other club has their second team recruited by these colleges?

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Ok. I'll play along. The SW 2019 Blue commits are no better than the M&D, if as good. On top of the lacrosse powers, M&D 2019 has 3 Ivy's, Stanford and Georgetown.
SW 2019 Blue Commits:
4 MD
4 Oregon
2 UNC
Denver
Hopkins
JMU
BC
Vandy
Va Tech

SW 2019 White:
2 Delaware
UMBC
Colorado
Queens College of Charlotte
Longwood

M&D Red:
Drexel
Colgate
Temple
Coastal Carolina
Denison
3 Salisbury
St. Mary's
Wingate
Robert Morris

And the SW 2020's don't come close to the 10 commits from M&D 2020 Black.

Times change.

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Terps, Tigers, Retrievers, Greyhounds, Blue Jays, Naval academy, and Mount st Marys. 7 schools. Naval Academy all free rides( kind of). Is that your question?


I guess my question was do players on red team get recruited by these colleges? or what other club has their second team recruited by these colleges?


UMBC has girls off M&D Red and SW White. Mt. St Mary's definitely. Was your questions specific to colleges in MD?

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Partial scholarship (know your facts). The line about getting into Stanford vs Maryland was pretty funny. Simply not true. Lets return to the discussion. Play to have fun and compete. Odds are better by getting a 4.0 and crushing SATs then lacrosse. More scholarships that way also. Red players not worth your financial outlay for 7 years club.

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Terps, Tigers, Retrievers, Greyhounds, Blue Jays, Naval academy, and Mount st Marys. 7 schools. Naval Academy all free rides( kind of). Is that your question?


I guess my question was do players on red team get recruited by these colleges? or what other club has their second team recruited by these colleges?


UMBC has girls off M&D Red and SW White. Mt. St Mary's definitely. Was your questions specific to colleges in MD?


Thank you for the information. I guess top 10 D1 probably doesnt happen? but any other really strong D1 programs in or outside MD that would recruit players off second teams.

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Partial scholarship (know your facts). The line about getting into Stanford vs Maryland was pretty funny. Simply not true. Lets return to the discussion. Play to have fun and compete. Odds are better by getting a 4.0 and crushing SATs then lacrosse. More scholarships that way also. Red players not worth your financial outlay for 7 years club.



It is absolutely true that it's easier for a lacrosse player to get into stanford than it is to get into MD without it. The minimum required SAT score for a lacrosse player at Stanford, Duke, Georgetown, etc is only about 1200. Good luck getting into MD with that these days.

Nice of you to tell people how to spend their money. Maybe their daughter's enjoy playing lacrosse with their friends. God forbid they have to go to a D3 school if they want to continue to play. There are some fantastic academic institutions that play D3 lacrosse.

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Agree plus the D3 schools will give more $$$ for academics than the D1 athletic schollys. The girls have a life and travel in the fall. The parent ego of saying their daughter is a D1 player causes some really poor decisions.

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Agree plus the D3 schools will give more $$$ for academics than the D1 athletic schollys. The girls have a life and travel in the fall. The parent ego of saying their daughter is a D1 player causes some really poor decisions.



Some CHOOSE to play D3 even though D1 schools want them, less of a commitment while still playing the game you’re so good at, all while being able to enjoy all aspects of college. There is nothing wrong with D3 programs.

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Noobie here... Hello!
Can I ask why the talk goes from D1 to D3? Why does no one talk of D2 schools?
Also, can you a fall semester abroad in D1 ( sounds unlikely) or at a D3 school?

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Noobie here... Hello!
Can I ask why the talk goes from D1 to D3? Why does no one talk of D2 schools?
Also, can you a fall semester abroad in D1 ( sounds unlikely) or at a D3 school?


Because most D2 schools are below average academically.

Semester abroad as you probably know it is not possible playing D1. Girls can spend time abroad through school at end of spring semester to wrap up a class which they still call semester abroad. They spend about 3 weeks abroad through this.

Can’t speak to D3. Assume greater possibility of full semester abroad there.

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Interesting the USClublax rankings coming out. Steps #1, M&D #2, YJ #3. Skywalkers down at #7. Supposedly takes into account summer performances at all age groups.

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Interesting the USClublax rankings coming out. Steps #1, M&D #2, YJ #3. Skywalkers down at #7. Supposedly takes into account summer performances at all age groups.


That explains why YJ sent so many teams to Nationals. Boost those rankings....... (which really doesn't mean much int he lacrosse world, outside of dollars in their pockets)

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Interesting the USClublax rankings coming out. Steps #1, M&D #2, YJ #3. Skywalkers down at #7. Supposedly takes into account summer performances at all age groups.


All you need to do is see STEPS at #1 and you know how ridiculous that ranking system is.

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Interesting the USClublax rankings coming out. Steps #1, M&D #2, YJ #3. Skywalkers down at #7. Supposedly takes into account summer performances at all age groups.


That explains why YJ sent so many teams to Nationals. Boost those rankings....... (which really doesn't mean much int he lacrosse world, outside of dollars in their pockets)


except that no 2021 teams played at Nationals.. I agree the rankings are a joke but its not always a YJ conspiracy..

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Interesting the USClublax rankings coming out. Steps #1, M&D #2, YJ #3. Skywalkers down at #7. Supposedly takes into account summer performances at all age groups.


That explains why YJ sent so many teams to Nationals. Boost those rankings....... (which really doesn't mean much int he lacrosse world, outside of dollars in their pockets)


except that no 2021 teams played at Nationals.. I agree the rankings are a joke but its not always a YJ conspiracy..


It’s not a 2021 ranking. It’s the club as a whole. The nationals don’t help much as there’s no competition there and part of their formula is who you beat. SW struggles at younger ages as they build their teams. Results of younger teams brings their ranking down. M&D and YJ are typically strong too to bottom. Not sure how Steps is ahead of them however.

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Interesting the USClublax rankings coming out. Steps #1, M&D #2, YJ #3. Skywalkers down at #7. Supposedly takes into account summer performances at all age groups.


That explains why YJ sent so many teams to Nationals. Boost those rankings....... (which really doesn't mean much int he lacrosse world, outside of dollars in their pockets)


except that no 2021 teams played at Nationals.. I agree the rankings are a joke but its not always a YJ conspiracy..


It’s not a 2021 ranking. It’s the club as a whole. The nationals don’t help much as there’s no competition there and part of their formula is who you beat. SW struggles at younger ages as they build their teams. Results of younger teams brings their ranking down. M&D and YJ are typically strong too to bottom. Not sure how Steps is ahead of them however.


Umm, duh! Steps is ahead of them cause they is better! Maniac

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Interesting the USClublax rankings coming out. Steps #1, M&D #2, YJ #3. Skywalkers down at #7. Supposedly takes into account summer performances at all age groups.


That explains why YJ sent so many teams to Nationals. Boost those rankings....... (which really doesn't mean much int he lacrosse world, outside of dollars in their pockets)


except that no 2021 teams played at Nationals.. I agree the rankings are a joke but its not always a YJ conspiracy..


It’s not a 2021 ranking. It’s the club as a whole. The nationals don’t help much as there’s no competition there and part of their formula is who you beat. SW struggles at younger ages as they build their teams. Results of younger teams brings their ranking down. M&D and YJ are typically strong too to bottom. Not sure how Steps is ahead of them however.


Umm, duh! Steps is ahead of them cause they is better! Maniac


Anyone and everyone who has been involved in girl's/women's lacrosse for the last decade knows that M&D and YJ rule the landscape. You can debate which club is 1 and 2 all day, but there is no way any other club is even in the conversation for 1-2. Skywalkers, Hero's, Top Guns are all also are ahead of STEPS, and you can debate the order for 3-5 all day as well. Not even sure STEPS is to be considered in top 10. I have seen dozens of attempts of various rankings of club teams from "internet site sources", many of them highly ranking clubs you never even heard of.

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Interesting the USClublax rankings coming out. Steps #1, M&D #2, YJ #3. Skywalkers down at #7. Supposedly takes into account summer performances at all age groups.


That explains why YJ sent so many teams to Nationals. Boost those rankings....... (which really doesn't mean much int he lacrosse world, outside of dollars in their pockets)


except that no 2021 teams played at Nationals.. I agree the rankings are a joke but its not always a YJ conspiracy..


It’s not a 2021 ranking. It’s the club as a whole. The nationals don’t help much as there’s no competition there and part of their formula is who you beat. SW struggles at younger ages as they build their teams. Results of younger teams brings their ranking down. M&D and YJ are typically strong too to bottom. Not sure how Steps is ahead of them however.


Umm, duh! Steps is ahead of them cause they is better! Maniac


Anyone and everyone who has been involved in girl's/women's lacrosse for the last decade knows that M&D and YJ rule the landscape. You can debate which club is 1 and 2 all day, but there is no way any other club is even in the conversation for 1-2. Skywalkers, Hero's, Top Guns are all also are ahead of STEPS, and you can debate the order for 3-5 all day as well. Not even sure STEPS is to be considered in top 10. I have seen dozens of attempts of various rankings of club teams from "internet site sources", many of them highly ranking clubs you never even heard of.


The rankings applied and disclosed objective criteria. So they are accurate for the stated purpose. Sorry it bursted your snowflake bubble of false security.

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It’s not a 2021 ranking. It’s the club as a whole. The nationals don’t help much as there’s no competition there and part of their formula is who you beat. SW struggles at younger ages as they build their teams. Results of younger teams brings their ranking down. M&D and YJ are typically strong too to bottom. Not sure how Steps is ahead of them however.


Umm, duh! Steps is ahead of them cause they is better! Maniac


Anyone and everyone who has been involved in girl's/women's lacrosse for the last decade knows that M&D and YJ rule the landscape. You can debate which club is 1 and 2 all day, but there is no way any other club is even in the conversation for 1-2. Skywalkers, Hero's, Top Guns are all also are ahead of STEPS, and you can debate the order for 3-5 all day as well. Not even sure STEPS is to be considered in top 10. I have seen dozens of attempts of various rankings of club teams from "internet site sources", many of them highly ranking clubs you never even heard of.


The rankings applied and disclosed objective criteria. So they are accurate for the stated purpose. Sorry it bursted your snowflake bubble of false security.


Come on. Steps typically never plays in the top division at any of the summer tournaments. While M&D, YJ and SW spend the summers beating up on each other, Steps is in a division with TLC, Top Guns, MD United, etc.

There are 2 major championship tournaments in the summer, Lax for the Cure and the Mid-Atlantic Championships.

M&D won 7 divisions between the 2 tournaments
YJ won 2
Monster 2
Steps 1
Heros 1
HOCO 1

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It’s not a 2021 ranking. It’s the club as a whole. The nationals don’t help much as there’s no competition there and part of their formula is who you beat. SW struggles at younger ages as they build their teams. Results of younger teams brings their ranking down. M&D and YJ are typically strong too to bottom. Not sure how Steps is ahead of them however.


Umm, duh! Steps is ahead of them cause they is better! Maniac


Anyone and everyone who has been involved in girl's/women's lacrosse for the last decade knows that M&D and YJ rule the landscape. You can debate which club is 1 and 2 all day, but there is no way any other club is even in the conversation for 1-2. Skywalkers, Hero's, Top Guns are all also are ahead of STEPS, and you can debate the order for 3-5 all day as well. Not even sure STEPS is to be considered in top 10. I have seen dozens of attempts of various rankings of club teams from "internet site sources", many of them highly ranking clubs you never even heard of.


The rankings applied and disclosed objective criteria. So they are accurate for the stated purpose. Sorry it bursted your snowflake bubble of false security.


Come on. Steps typically never plays in the top division at any of the summer tournaments. While M&D, YJ and SW spend the summers beating up on each other, Steps is in a division with TLC, Top Guns, MD United, etc.

There are 2 major championship tournaments in the summer, Lax for the Cure and the Mid-Atlantic Championships.

M&D won 7 divisions between the 2 tournaments
YJ won 2
Monster 2
Steps 1
Heros 1
HOCO 1


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It’s not a 2021 ranking. It’s the club as a whole. The nationals don’t help much as there’s no competition there and part of their formula is who you beat. SW struggles at younger ages as they build their teams. Results of younger teams brings their ranking down. M&D and YJ are typically strong too to bottom. Not sure how Steps is ahead of them however.


Umm, duh! Steps is ahead of them cause they is better! Maniac


Anyone and everyone who has been involved in girl's/women's lacrosse for the last decade knows that M&D and YJ rule the landscape. You can debate which club is 1 and 2 all day, but there is no way any other club is even in the conversation for 1-2. Skywalkers, Hero's, Top Guns are all also are ahead of STEPS, and you can debate the order for 3-5 all day as well. Not even sure STEPS is to be considered in top 10. I have seen dozens of attempts of various rankings of club teams from "internet site sources", many of them highly ranking clubs you never even heard of.


The rankings applied and disclosed objective criteria. So they are accurate for the stated purpose. Sorry it bursted your snowflake bubble of false security.


Come on. Steps typically never plays in the top division at any of the summer tournaments. While M&D, YJ and SW spend the summers beating up on each other, Steps is in a division with TLC, Top Guns, MD United, etc.

There are 2 major championship tournaments in the summer, Lax for the Cure and the Mid-Atlantic Championships.

M&D won 7 divisions between the 2 tournaments
YJ won 2
Monster 2
Steps 1
Heros 1
HOCO 1


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US Club Lax included many more than two tourneys and excluded the Mid-Atlantic.

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Yes, they include more than two tournaments. And it's ridiculous that they don't include the Mid_atlantic.

But, the championship tournaments are more indicative of where the clubs should be ranked as you don't just have to win 4 games against teams that are fairly equal in talent. Steps can go 3-1 or 4-0 in showcase tournaments because they are playing lesser teams. Meanwhile, M&D, YJ and SW are almost always placed in the same division at showcase tournaments because coaches want to see them playing each other. In the championship tournaments Steps can win their division but typically are outmatched once the playoffs start. (Yes I know they won LFTC 2021 this year but this is a program-wide ranking). No way Steps should be ranked above YJ and M&D. I don't care what criteria you use.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Interesting the USClublax rankings coming out. Steps #1, M&D #2, YJ #3. Skywalkers down at #7. Supposedly takes into account summer performances at all age groups.



US Club Lax has no association with US Lacrosse, just a site created by a parent. You guys are so gullible and should do some research. The email address for the site is usclublacrosse@gmail....hahahaha.

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Yes, they include more than two tournaments. And it's ridiculous that they don't include the Mid_atlantic.

But, the championship tournaments are more indicative of where the clubs should be ranked as you don't just have to win 4 games against teams that are fairly equal in talent. Steps can go 3-1 or 4-0 in showcase tournaments because they are playing lesser teams. Meanwhile, M&D, YJ and SW are almost always placed in the same division at showcase tournaments because coaches want to see them playing each other. In the championship tournaments Steps can win their division but typically are outmatched once the playoffs start. (Yes I know they won LFTC 2021 this year but this is a program-wide ranking). No way Steps should be ranked above YJ and M&D. I don't care what criteria you use.


US Club Lax says otherwise.

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Not sure why any parent should waste time with club rankings anyway. It is about your daughters developing into great people and players that can play at the next level. Not just YJ M&D or Steps

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Does anyone have any recommendations for quality prospect clinics (in Maryland)? I realize each college typically does their own thing, I'm talking about events where they promote the fact that 10-12 college coaches will be there etc.. Just trying not to waste any money. Suggestions or recommendations ? Thanks.

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Does anyone have any recommendations for quality prospect clinics (in Maryland)? I realize each college typically does their own thing, I'm talking about events where they promote the fact that 10-12 college coaches will be there etc.. Just trying not to waste any money. Suggestions or recommendations ? Thanks.


Don’t waste your money on any clinic if it includes 2023’s.
I would decide what schools your daughter is considering, and then go to their prospect days first.

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Does anyone have any recommendations for quality prospect clinics (in Maryland)? I realize each college typically does their own thing, I'm talking about events where they promote the fact that 10-12 college coaches will be there etc.. Just trying not to waste any money. Suggestions or recommendations ? Thanks.


There are 2 the friday before the Mid-Atlantic championships. One at McDonogh and one at Goals in Catonsville. Both have good college coaches attending.

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Maximum Exposure -summer event. If your daughter makes all star team -she is on her way.

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“Don’t waste your money on any clinic if it includes 2023’s.
I would decide what schools your daughter is considering, and then go to their prospect days first.”

Agree it will not help you get recruited when you get beat on by 23s

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I would decide what schools your daughter is considering, and then go to their prospect days first.”

Agree it will not help you get recruited when you get beat on by 23s


Spoken like the d-bag I am sure you are.

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Maximum Exposure -summer event. If your daughter makes all star team -she is on her way.


Max Exposure is not what it once was. Very limited list of coaches there last year. Very limited list of top girls that attended.

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